was it called or the last hero? this is different. they had to live in a place with a tribe, domogarov led in my opinion, and friske was there , just vera toneva was there and many, many others. eh, people didn’t invite you to this project, the guests were at a project in africa in south africa, but i don’t remember what it was called specifically, probably it was sleeping, eating there for 3 days on earth with them, to get caught. but it was tough, that is, in the last hero and in the heart of africa, i still don’t fit in my head, like the project of the first channel, it seems, as all artists should have a bus, a separate trailer. they really all slept on the floor there, ate karenins, everything was really bananas. i saw the ocean for the first time in my life. then i remember the indian ocean. i saw such emotions. i didn't understand. it's scary. and if, on the other hand, it's so delicious, well, now

, in principle, our wonderful podcast is coming to an end, although, of course, he doesn't want to remember. yes, almost everything. well, it seems to me that they managed to remember everything important, if just something important of your memories of 2005 is left uncovered. well, 2005 is the brightest. yes, perhaps a year, probably in my youth. well, it was still my youth, then this one happened, this one , this one, the popularization of our work is so explosive. i would even say, that is, we ceased to be places of the samara group of local importance, they became the all-russian group, and so on. well, here it is, yes. it was certainly encouraging. here and there, a new new life of mine began in 2005. and i have 2005 a. it turns out that the second wind opened. what kind of artist yulia savicheva because 2003 was a factory and high with ships. eh, this is

the first breath when they would recognize me, now the country has fallen in love. and here, second wind began with a song, if love lives in the heart from the tv series don't be born beautiful, and then it just bombed, and then all these hits just nastya maximova about, which i told you, went on, and then already in 2006 in 2007 i was going to the presentation stadium of this album. here. uh. yes, we were invited too. yes we are sat somewhere on the arbat somewhere in a casino. yes , we were sitting, and there was just a presentation, where in the clip of a small car. yes, yes, two small cars, this is one of my favorite clips. in general, well, the third wind cakes. what is the third uh, no cakes, third wind? i have already gone with the song moscow-vladivostok, after that period with nastya maximova, then it’s not zero. no, this is already 10 loaves. then in

the tenth year, max wrote moscow-vladivostok, and that's it, and the third wind started. and now for the fourth am. write in the comments. at i really have everything so bad now in my musical career that i switched to cakes nearby. she should know what i did. you know the story about donna korolyov who retired and started growing tomatoes. so this is actually cake. it will be really the biggest truth, 50. of course, of course, and now, uh, fourth wind, so it started when i continued on my own way without a producer, center and the first successful song love will find u next is an album that was released not so long ago the element where they entered songs. well, uh, yellow taxi. well, in general,

if you remember what successful releases before that were separate. yes, this is everest. this is a real standing song, and weather forecasters. eh, well, in general, some really successful stories that now continue to happen are still too early. i say at 60 today we remember 2,000 for the fifth year. my guests are yuri savicheva and konstantin burdaev the brothers grimm, and maybe, for the time being, still yu. la didn't move on to the cake until i was the 60th furis singing something like that. oh, of course. all is mine me you are not alone forever

together where are we?

to you in the sky for a star high quiet flight in the sky all star high is

easy forever with you. spring nights, where are we?

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sings it's easy. my name is larisa guzeeva this is a podcast of letters. today we will talk about ivan sergeevich turgenev at my place. historian yegor

yakovlev thank you for coming. thank you. that 's how interesting it is, after a while, uh , in general, to talk about the scale of such a person, such as, for example, a fantastic writer ingenious, da turgenev a and b in connection with this. well, reading, yes, here is his biography, plunging into it, what thoughts just do not come. that's me to an ordinary person after all. i am not a historian. i'm just a woman. it seems to me that if i had been born to such parents as, uh, ivan sergeevich, i would have been a homicidal maniac. well, if you talk about who he was, mama, papa is already terrible, really. sergeevich had a very difficult childhood, a very destructive family, and not in the first generation, because his mother, varvara petrovna, was also born in a destructive family her father was not very knocked down, and her mother

was also a cruel woman. well, it so happened that she inherited a very large inheritance and married for love, but her husband did not love her. he was a fine, cavalry guard, a very handsome man, gallant, but very poor , and money does wonders, and he married for convenience. he married by calculation, and they do not love their wife constantly cheated on her. this, of course, left an imprint on family relationships. then it was all in front of the son of little vanya, of course, in front of the son and none of them had three sons, unfortunately, the youngest son was more on epilepsy, the wound died, and ivan sergeevich down. i watched all this and was, in fact, a victim of these relationships and a victim of the character of a despotic self-righteous mother, who was very cruel towards the serfs, yes, and to your own. sorry to keep. eh, souls, slaves, the same yes but from here

ivan sergeevich i will take out impressions, which i later described in notes. oh fuck. how i want to say that if our brilliant writers didn’t have such a life nightmares in their lives. eh, could they have become articles, but i'm interested in another ivan sergeevich sang all his life. ah, female beauty. yes, the nobility of purity. it would seem . yes, everything should be, on the contrary, with him all the heroines should be evil zlotychikhami. uh, but just horrible bloody bars. no, well, he has one bloody bar, if we remember the textbook story of momoto, this is just an image created based on the communication of his own mother. but fortunately, other women also met in life, and he loved many of them, and one of loved them all my life. she is a daddy also influenced his work. yes, and we are a story

when he really loved a girl about a girl, and became daddy's mistress, yes, this is the story that formed the basis of the famous story first love. there was a neighbor about turgenev. and of course our repentant beautiful young girl, whom others they fell in love with, she played with him, but in the end reciprocated no answered a. then he found out that she was the beloved of his father, who, among other things, cheated on mothers with her, and it so happened that you don’t know, shakhovskaya, by the way, a woman, a gifted poetess, lived a very short tragic life. only 21 years old. and this is another trauma that left an imprint on the character of ivan sergeevich - you were a very small strangler, you killed the serfs and disappeared before the eyes of the boy. and it’s not like i’ll scare his soul, i lived, and i didn’t kill him. and here you see the disappointment. you see, and that's all, the standards. all out of squabbles,

of course. turgenev was a man with a very problematic childhood with a problematic youth. and it seems to me that these experiences left a serious imprint on his attitudes towards women, that is, turgenev's women, what you are talking about is beautiful and pure and decisive heroines of his work. and there are other men who are not talked about at school, these are indecisive men who cannot decide in any way, but overcome some difficulty, overcome an obstacle and achieve. happiness. it is their happiness to be classical henpecked in this happiness, in fact, no one, but the exact one, well , he didn’t derive the formula of happiness, but ivan sergeevich found happiness, the joy is that come out as a slave to your beloved. it seems to me not quite, because, but one such experience he had was an experience. yes, they burned erdo, but in general, now he will come, but it seems to me that ivan sergeevich was simply afraid of the relationship, he

was afraid. marriage and was afraid of responsibility in this marriage, and this fear he, of course, stemmed from the unhappy marriage of his parents and this unhappy childhood. well, look , i could afford to buy the serf, because i fell in love, and i could give birth to a child from the serf and yes, there the story was more complicated, because uh, of course, u ivan sergeevich, with all his excellent works, was born into a landowning family, and he was also a serf-owner, and yes, he had an affair with avdotya ermolaevna ivanova, who was his mother's dressmaker. and this novel was noticed by mother, mother, she was very jealous. by the way, to all the girls of both her eldest sons, and there will be a scandal, ivan sergeevich left her mother and only after, uh, 7 years. he found out after eight even years. he found out that he had a daughter. this does not mean here just because she does it some kind of rubbish. yes

to deprive that unfortunate it's not enough for you to be dishonored. uh, practically thrown out into the street, the child was taken away. well, how could it be, she was a very cruel woman, she scoffed, scoffed and encouraged others to do the same. here is turgenev. actually it was identified only for one simple reason. she was terrible, she looked like, if you compare the photos of the adults of polina yes, and in russia she was called pelags. here is this girl. she really is very similar to sergeevich. that's just it. arriving to her mother in 1850 . i'll tell you what i found. here guess that my daughter of 8 years old is strikingly similar to me, i can’t describe to you the feeling that her appearance aroused in me. imagine that i'm not even remembering the features of her mother's face, i'm not exaggerating at all. whence such a resemblance, in which there should

have been, e, imprinted mutual love, looking at this poor little creature. i felt my obligations towards her and i will fulfill them. she will never know poverty. i will arrange her life. as best as possible. can you imagine how painful this meeting made an impression on me that i changed my mind about everything that came into my head. oh my god. oh my god, now i feel like i would adore a child, whose face? reminds me of the features of my beloved mother. this similarity what is this similarity? what a mockery, this is to whom he wrote a letter , this letter was written with which he was then. closely familiar , but here's what's interesting, but in this letter he talks about the mother of this girl, she is alive, she is alive, she still works as a dressmaker. turgenev writes that he wanted to visit her, but didn't decide. he didn't even remember her face 8 years had passed. he no longer remembers. it was her face that was slept on,

and he writes that in his interpretation, uh, it looks like. so the mother really wanted to get rid of her daughter, but we don't really know because, uh, the other side couldn't tell us their story. so why did she later, when already uh, took her daughter and raised her, and her mother asked ivan sergeevich yes to meet her daughter. he didn't allow it. well, there was no communication. yes, it is not clear how the woman would have told the game, she is now to the viad, but my feelings for her are something. what the world never knew than what never existed. and that it never can. it will repeat itself with the very minute i saw her for the first time in that fateful moment. i belonged to her all the way a dog belongs to its owner. i could no longer live anywhere, wherever she did not live, i broke away at once from everything dear to me from the motherland itself set off after. behind this woman in german fairy tales. knights often fall into

a similar stupor. i couldn't take my eyes off her face. could not hear enough of her speeches fall in love with her every move. i rightly breathed after her, that it was it was a flash, of course, they got to know each other clearly since 1843, and he is 25, she is 22 and he is still far from the ivan sergeevich turgenev in which we know, he has practically nothing yet wrote from his great books, and she is already a star, and her loud glory began in russia, she came here on tour with her husband, whom she had just married for 20 years. yes, 20 years older than her. she's a singer and an amazing woman singer described it as very ugly or a film by cherepin, then said that well, it was impossible to look in front, only in profile, yes, and even in literature textbooks. i remember this marvelous profile of pauline viardot, amazing but beautiful. yes, she was not

pretty, but she was slender and even thin, she had wonderful black hair, intelligent velvety eyes and a matte complexion until old age. her mouth was large and ugly, but as soon as she began to sing, and there were no flaws in her face and speech, she was divinely inspired, being such beautiful and powerful and such an actress that the theater trembled from the applause of the flowers. they poured onto the stage and in this enthusiastic show the queen of the stage was hiding behind the falling curtain. yes, it was love at first sight, and he was introduced to her as a terrible hunter and a bad poet, then he leaves for europe and is next to this family, and he will stay for many years and sometime later andre maurois is a famous french writer and biographer. turgenev will say that if dima were put in front of turgenev to become the greatest writer in the entire history

of literature, but never to see polina the trusty nor the faithful family, or stop being a writer, but be a janitor to the family and a horde. he will choose the second. well, i think it's for the red word. listen, well, we already arranged such a neighborhood for her, and let's start with his wife. i understand that he was aware of their uh, intimate relationship. let's start with the fact that we do not know, in general, whether there were these intimate relationships? now, uh, there's no clear evidence of that. children. were born and all calculated exactly through there 9 months. uh, another son was born, of course, they say, because they were tabloids and rumors and gossip and so on. well, maybe they were. or maybe not, but this connection was, after all, primarily spiritual. it seems to me that they were very, very interesting with each other, because polina ivana sergeevich were people of high

culture. these were people who had many very common interests. and and here is this mutual interest. uh, the ability to enjoy intellectually with each other, and became guarantee of the strength of their relationship. i can't say that i'm so sparkling cynical. well, i don’t believe in such a relationship, and without intimacy without this passion, what could be such a depth of feelings, in fact, which led to the fact that he trusted her, and in his finances through her yes, having sent for education and she brought accepted , a daughter in illegal. it's not just her passion for money that turgenev had. and they don't have a husband. it's not exactly like that, though. uh, we have a stereotype that ivan sergeevich was very rich. why not very rich? well, for example, uh, sell a village, some estate, and spend it on a viorda to

decorate it. uh, some of her pranks there. why not? it could be a stream, when my mother died before the death of her mother, for these 7 years in this mother was alive ivan sergeevich was not rich. he depended on his mother and there were times when, on the contrary, polina and her husband. they narrowed the money to ivan sergeevich, on the contrary, so here i would act as his lawyer. here's but really. here is what he trusts her with his daughter. why not just trust him asks uyut for advice on what to do with her daughter, because everyone knows that she is illegitimate, that she is from krepostnaya, and it is polina viardov who offers this way out to bring her daughter to france, because in france no one knows this, she will be with us , as a pupil and no one in france will watch. and this really allowed the girl. eh, to get a relatively normal upbringing on formal grounds in france and turgenev recognizes it. that is

, she will bear the name of polina turgeneva. what will allow her to do it later it would seem good by social standards of marriage to marry an entrepreneur, the owner of a glass factory, hello but all the same, daddy sucked money, still wrote complained, but they came and so on. in general, her life also did not work out; her daughter developed from infancy. here it is evident that on the one hand she became a frenchwoman. she did not speak russian. she was such a classic frenchwoman in terms of upbringing , education, worldview and so on, but at the same time, she dragged all the problems from russia. yeah, uh, where she grew up, but the problem is, her relationship didn't work out. with polina to her, maybe once again. it just seemed that it was not polina who truly paid little attention to her, damn it, they grew up in their own daughter, so she was sent to an educational institution. after a while my mother

again took the little one, o whom i wrote to you on sunday, to her, this saddens me, because her position here is, of course, disgusting. to make something out of her, like a servant and i want to make a princess out of her, but also well, you understand me, i wish that she was free and she will be, but nobly. of course not, he made her free. it was he who provided her with this advantageous marriage. he helped her during all the same sent her to france. yes, she got a great education and uh, he fell in love with his grandchildren and helped and helped to the very end. well, there's some serious trouble, my dear girl. i must tell you frankly that i was not very pleased with you during my last stay in france. i discovered several quite serious shortcomings. you are touchy, conceited, stubborn and secretive, you do not like to be told the truth and easily turn away from those people whom

you should especially love as soon as these people stop pampering you. you are jealous, you are not trusting. you love to communicate, only with people whom you consider below yourself, your pride becomes like wild prey, even in relation to me, who never did anything to you that i could do to you. to offend listen, well after going through such humiliations, of course she will to assert themselves on those who are below her, everyone wants revenge, you understand? in general, i don't like it. by the way, i'm not happy with these letters. turgenev's daughter. you are touchy, you are conceited. listen, it was you who made her like that, so you go to the mirror and accuse yourself of tearing off your mother to give grandmother to this cruel motherfucker, then someone else's aunt in a foreign country, who i don't know what happened there with closed doors. and here is this, incidentally, interest. here he writes. you're touchy it's conceited. here's who she's on

offended, here we are talking about the offense was ivan sergeevich whom and you already didn’t love and didn’t give to your mother, and so on , because maybe he wanted her to kiss his hands because he was the same to her. he says, i did not do anything bad to you, except good, and you instead. for you to thank me endlessly to thank your benefactors. you are still offended by them, if they don’t endlessly pamper and praise you, he still stands up for pauline, because he stayed. what's wrong with your daughter affectionately does not kiss my hands for everything. oh, it's all so complicated, the truth is i love hate, it blows my mind. and in general, have you ever encountered how, after our broadcast , it will fall down then you know how much it was , it was very true, it was not very sad. there was no quarrel, just a conversation. you

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i am larisa guzeeva and my guest is the historian yegor yakovlev about love. do you believe that viardot loved turgenev yes, of course, of course, she loved him. they say that ivan sergeevich was a russian spy. no, the fact is that ivan sergeevich turgenev was really a propagandist of russian culture in europe and sometimes even desperately defended the glory of russian literature in disputes with foreigners. well, for example, such a case told him that there is russian literature, and turgenev and muscat, that mr. tekirey, despite all your satirical talent, we have uh hmm a writer who is superior to you in every

respect, now asked who is it? this is gogol's answer. turgenev yes, i don’t know that, yes, yes, uh, not for long, though only a month . this censorship in st. petersburg banned, but others still managed to shove through. this is a text in moscow , uh, and yes he was arrested as he was pouted. uh, at first he spent a month in prison, and then he was sent into exile for 2 years on his estate. that's how pushkin was mikhailov there, that's how turgenev was spassky and here, by the way, there was an interesting story, because just at that time billions came to russia and turgenev , this is one of the many directly very decisive actions for him, fled, he could not leave his estate, but he fled and met a giant.

although this threatened him, well, with some serious noble young ladies, who would, well, with great pleasure, be married to ivan sergeevich turgenev, who says, i propagandized the whole russian russian culture of russian literature in this way. for some reason, i jumped that he bowed to the west. no. no, here he is, and he fell in love with this gypsy, as her yes, she called him, mama. eh, married. uh, without any prospects, it means that there was something in her that was not in russian, uh, beautiful women, well, i fell in love, i fell in love in the end, that is, the point is not that she was not russian, the point is that she was here, he felt very good with her. and he couldn't get away from her. here is the main reason. do you really think that there was no between them. and that same charismatic love. eh, the intimacy of these passions. e that it was all at the level of soul intelligence. no

, maybe i was, i don’t know for sure, i admit that it’s possible that he was a bachelor to me all, well, he never married, because this love for viardot. he will pass through life 40 years 40 years. i think so. so, for a completely different reason, he did not marry. no. i think that he did not marry for the simple reason that he was afraid of marriage. in general, he is not striving for this. there he approached the projectile several times. he had several attempts. he was torn with polina vr well, he came to russia, they liked some girls, there was flirting. uh, and he had such an exploitative romance with maria nikolaevna tolstaya, the sister of lev nikolaevich, and this is very cool. almost got shot. yes, not quite because of this. but yes. this complicated their relationship. eh, but what happened there there was a story, as with polina verdunu, but in the miniature of the seas nikolaevna was married to her distant relative thick valerian. uh, and uh, the relationship in this marriage

was also destructive, not only did the spouses not love each other. valerian was a serf. uh, that is, he cheated on his wife literally from right to left. this is a serf-owner at its finest. uh, valerian was outwardly very ugly. turgenev called him. village heinrich eighth he was very fat. well, of course, marie was very hard with such a husband. well, how turgenev behaves, he is friends. and so, well, just to the viardu family, he is friends with her husband and communicates with his wife and with her husband and walks with his wife and with her husband and with his wife. well, he starts flirting. look, and they like each other and others are not friends write what it seems, lovers about their feelings. she is getting divorced like that, but, uh, i think that some biographers of turgen make you too sharp about her divorce, because she is still she didn’t go to turgenev, but from her husband, and then she went to a monastery when it didn’t work out. uh, when ivan sergeevich didn’t take it, you understand, these are completely different judges. here you are men, you

argue like that, and for me it is absolutely a tragedy. she is getting divorced. he won't marry her. she goes to a convent. what is a monastery? yes, this is the end. eh, earthly life was not quite the way it was, so, firstly, ivan sergeevich definitely did not promise anything, and he could not have promised it . in his spirit of a and i repeat that she is gone not to him, but precisely from her husband, and a rather long period passed between maria’s departure, maria’s divorce and her departure to the monastery, and between that time she had an affair with another man. she went to europe and met a noble viscount there, uh, from whom she gave birth to an illegitimate daughter, and only after this man, from whom she gave birth to an illegitimate daughter, left her. here it is completely. she left ivan sergeevich , after all, it has nothing to do with it, although, uh, leo nikolayevich tolstoy noticed this flirting, and he wrote that turgenev faithful behaves with masha such a thing really happened. but how is it connected

here is the same story that it seems to me that tolstoy felt comfortable when there is a woman. yes, she is married, she has such a stable position, but she flirts with her and talks to her. well , he does not bear any responsibility, and here was an ardon with polina, and many men love married women, because there is no responsibility. and you don't owe anyone anything. you have love. do you have freedom of relationship don't worry, because she'll never take it. these are families, because yes, there is a fear of losing, maybe so on, that is, the energy of a man is so arranged, they say that e men. yes, everything is very, very comfortable with an affair with married ladies as long as they are not going to divorce, right? well, judging by the fact that turgenev never did. yes , viardot's proposal with all the great love. and yet this is the west, there were freer customs. uh, divorces were allowed. why not? i don't think he wanted it. neither she wanted it.

i think that there was such an agreement about everyone with everyone, and her wife is embarrassed. and when he lost his mother and estate, and he got to dispose of everything. yes, but i'm a little too hasty. e, said that he sold himself a small estate and went to buy himself , uh, pamper. e, beloved, and so on, then there was also a lot of money put on the daughter, yes, which, for example, i don’t think that she directly spent everything, but it was beneficial for everyone. well, even then no one interfered, nor the mother could interfere. yes, not her old husband and that was it. okay, well, here's something to keep in mind that she is just such a benefit a man will not hide. uh, western people were more pragmatic than, uh, russian. no, i don't think that 's what it was about, only i think that these relationships they were getting more.