here it is, which side is dear, uh, with great excitement, and many other hits by dmitry malikov , and which, for the time being, can generally dance under uh, plus sign. that's why we can take a peek. go ahead with understanding. that's about the sun of monaco as well. here but in those days when our show business developed, the road was long. well, that is, it was necessary to find somewhere a producer to record a song to get on the radio station on the air. i do not know the morning mail of channel one and so on. now time has changed a little, you can start from petropavlovsk-kamchatsky, where, by the way, i also lived for six years of my life. i mean, the first one is probably sentry. no , i'm just because the child is from there. yes, you can start from afar. fuck well, now is

the time to start anywhere. well, i wouldn’t say that globally, you can write music from anywhere in fact, in principle , the industry is located and the entire center of the universe around our industry is in moscow, therefore, if you want to develop and move on. i think it's worth moving, that is, anyway moscow sucks talents, if you haven’t moved to moscow, then in general, yes, it draws. well, okay, it attracts you well. no well, there are different professions, for example, if you are an arranger, yes or therefore, you can live in your city. i, for example, am now collaborating with guys from kazakhstan . well, they live in almaty, this does not interfere. i was there, so to speak, to somehow exchange with him constantly to be in touch, and, uh, the internet certainly gives such an opportunity, such an opportunity was not a very short way, but the competition is much greater when i started. here it is, which side was not really native. i'm not talking about musical television, that is, europe plus, there was just waiting somewhere

. the morning mail was a star, yes. uh, there were no three stars. here is the morning post. uh, lucky broadcast one internal mail. eh, a man made a star from a man one ether, that only now there is one ether, you understand nothing. here. i'm not talking about the new year's light. by the way, i wanted to ask. and you can say so, dmitry, you woke up once famous the success of the song until tomorrow, thanks to new year's eve from the eighty-eighth to the year 89, when this song was put there with great difficulty , the shooting was not far from here, we surrounded the delivery tower in a helicopter in bad weather, the helicopter hovered, it was not bad cameraman eric malinin e him so to speak. so he leaned out from behind the product of an open helicopter and in order to a in order to shoot me, well, as if against the backdrop of moscow allegedly. although i couldn't get out either. in general, it was very disappointing that these frames did not entered. hmm, just footage of moscow at night near

the starominskaya tower here. well, but that's not the point, the point is that the next morning my e, co-author of the m words of this song , sasha shaganov, calls me and says edim, we wrote a hit. i say that you would take it, only there was one shooting and that's it. so he says, you know, i'm on the subway with e, went down and there was a boy with a girl. there he says goodbye, and he sings until tomorrow. that's january 1st. that's why it was like this before. just if there was good promising material, but now, probably, same. just if there is a good looking due to the fact that there are so many professionals. and i say, now it's not about people with higher musical education. i say, now they are professionals in their field, who intuitively feel that they can become a hit like what is relevant now, what topics are relevant now, what is needed now, and give the viewer as musical material and against

this background there is a lot of competition, so you can just stay even with good stuff unnoticed among all the abundance. everything happened very slowly and gradually for me, and i can say that here it probably plays in the plus, because there is no sharp. and you know such a m-m as a clouding of the mind, that everything and everything is possible for me. i am a superstar. everyone loves me. everyone is waiting for me. here rather, it is to play a plus to the fact that you can not get sick with star disease. a lot of work, both internal and external, and it seems that you are gradually. if you slowly get used to it, and this is not some kind of pressure for you from society that it suits you just to take a picture. now it is already part of your life as part of your work. and you treat me like i'm cool. just as it is. we just talked about the fact that at some point the authors disappeared, but we live in such an interesting time

that, in principle, the figure of the performer. she, too , in general, risks disappearing, because an avatar appears instead of her and with him. in general, it is more convenient to work and do what you want. he is not sick. in general, he does not lose his voice. he is not capricious, does not suffer from star disease. deal with him whatever you want. the main thing is that in in the beginning, in general, at the start, there was some kind of character with whom to work now, not only the author can disappear, but i am copyright societies, because all over the world such appeals are heard that there is no need to pay copyright more. yes? that is, here's the music you wrote, it belongs to all of all mankind. it should not receive anything for this either, we are talking about the future, maybe the future to live. another question is that the authors, for example, in russia when? they dispose, of course, they cannot count on large fees and therefore

they most often love it. well, we are here in the creative industries, and we are not trying to do some things here. it seems to me that while hiding the author receives a fixed payment, because it is very difficult to gather an author in russia and abroad, for example, they give a song to work for free without compensation, expecting royalties for this. i don't know how it all will turn out, but in russia , it seems to me, since this year, an increase in interest in authors has begun. as if. well, it will. i think, now very often i hear from my colleagues. i’m my peers that there are seven notes in music and i’ll think that it looks like, you’ll think that there are actually similar words somewhere, really, that tomorrow it’s become very disappointing lately, because their, uh, work remains not only unnoticed . she also doesn't pay well. and more and everyone can comprehend on their efforts. don't take it for yourself. we can even go further, because also the generative content that we talked about

avatars and what neural networks can create, and songs like someone else's not only what concerns avatars, by the way, this is , for example, the last time anaomi kemble. eh, mykerurg, they began to be present as brand ambassadors in a torus-shaped form, and it seems to be going, as if it is going, that you can create both generative content, etilectual and visual, too, and you can work with it in a controlled manner. here dmitry can, er, probably, answer this question. look at the sci-fi on the new animated characters. the figure of the artist is important here. the fact is that no avatar is do it you can do it on someone. and what to make a bright avatar must be a bright character with a well of new technologies. of course they will come. and these here is a fantastic show. on channel one, these are the first serious very swallows. i just uh witnessed all these technological

innovations uh, i can say that it is really u amazing and but i think that in the future it will be u the norm. well, it's just this show. it's such a breakthrough, maybe not everyone understood it. eh, not everyone accepted it. here but for this is definitely the future and already today we see how, for example, the abba show is also going on, yes, in london uh and hmm holographic holographic yes, there are young u members of this team. but they sing beautifully there and they seem to be real. this is also a question of the future. in principle, these holographic moments , they have been used for many years, but it’s just very expensive for the time being, as soon as the technology makes it possible to reduce the cost of e, and make it transportable, then i think that clowns will appear and i’m loosing. him yes, we will stay at home. and so they will eat tour, we will feel good in

karabas-barabas-barabas. we will karabash. we ourselves will manage our bellies. why are you so sure of this? and, because the rights will belong. we know how to register the rights to our avatar, which maybe someone has already created such a story, you understand how an avatar is created, so i talked to those who create them in full detail. uh, the visual image of the artist is remembered, then some adjustments so that it would already be a very original avatar, that is, with some nuances, and then there is a metamorphosis. it can be owned by several companies, for example. well, i'm talking hypothetically now. we cannot imagine it in any way, because somehow it will be, probably. how are you rights going to be regulated? i think that now over this, as lawyers are thinking. there is another

interesting point. uh, the thing is, it's the same abba with her show. this is the money that people have incurred for abu and not for a live show someone else, yes, that is, the money is the same in general, a limited amount, that is, they will carry their money, not for a living artist, but it is easier to work with an avatar with an avatar. that is, they will eventually take the place of a living artist. that is, all this will multiply in such a state , real live performance, live musicians , absolutely life, it will always be in demand. no matter how cool fashionable interesting bright avatar you are present, people will always love it. uh, live sound in soulful concerts, i absolutely agree. in addition , i will simply say that, for example, there are so many sounds already. uh, it's simulated by a computer. yes, that is, all instruments are synthesizers and samplers are modern. in general, so to speak, in fact, all sounds can, uh, somehow, well,

make them look alike. here, well, for example, the sound of a live violin. no one managed to make it out of it, and anyway, but any symphony orchestra. it is, of course, in the computer it will all sound similar, but far from it, there will be no living breath, there will be no breath of the conductor. and this is the vibration this energy that the guitar behaves in its track. mm, not using computers. it seems to me that there are things that still feel ah, it's life or live well , you still need to keep in mind that we have the beginning of the century, just something else ahead of god only knows, but the romantic version that artificial intelligence will never defeat a living person. she is so good for complacency, it seems to me yes, there will be time, well, maybe 200-300 years, but nevertheless, if they are, they can make up competition, as you think, is demanding,

maybe not suitable for it, in principle, it is written. how many, for example, look, there is a legendary group of gorillas, yes, in fact, they performed like avatars, including on stage. yes, ah, it was the same. our domestic character glucose was also a kind of avatar, and they can compete, but how long will they last compared to a living artist. this is a generational question, because in our generation we are already quite formed people. and how the youth which today there 3 5 10 years. here they will probably treat it somehow. well , it’s easier for us until we convince him with the tatars. still, we we are a lively man. yes? i personally would go, for the sake of interest, only to some concert. that's all the way these parents

who are no longer alive, for example, michael jackson, i would love to go to his concert, or are you already going out to see? yes , some, at least. well, at least so experience these emotions. well, of course, if i were given the choice of a live performance, live concert or avatar of course, i would choose a live one. for example, i was at a whitney houston concert in moscow, so i can say that she was in such a sad state. unfortunately from the point of view. here is her condition. eh, mental nervous and physical. what could be even better would be that if it were water , you understand, the avatar was walking, where i can smooth it all out, because we just already witnessed, as it were, the tragedies that happen to it. and it was already clear that she was not in good condition. but hypothetically comes, uh in application fund for cultural, label initiatives, which fully convincingly defends the concept of avatars. and he says it will be a super-label, in which there will be artists, and they

will earn big money. they will influence the viewer, as you remember, there was such a project. eh, a black mirror, when a certain character was created, after which then we would be happy, because in general, everything new that comes to us is considered with great interest. well, not yet, not yet, dmitry, we'll come up with lucy. here inside when you are on the set, what are you doing there? see this is what it looks like. eh , there are different versions there, but there is nothing there, on which this avatar is performing . that is, you see it, just like the viewer, and we just don’t see it. it’s like it’s completely in 3d but we see it on the screen quite convincingly for ourselves, and then, if we communicate with this avatar in real time, ah, we see, but the full picture is already how

the climbed version will go naturally with the avatar itself on the stage. with myself the only thing happens. uh, technological problems with the fact that, for example, a suit does not allow you to move the way you would move in life, because you physically forget that you, for example, do not have a skirt, and you put it in your hands, at the seams. and these hands, they are falling through somewhere, this mary poppins costume, he had such a skirt, a hat, a very beautiful costume, stockings. so naturally the movement depended directly on the costumes. they figured me out almost immediately, but, because it's impossible not to figure it out. very special such vocals and manner. that was very complexity and we're through. they didn't know who was who. well, some guessed about some and did not guess. we recorded in different positions and sitting and lying and kicking. yes, we changed the timbre and squeaked and squealed, and vice versa

, lowered it so much in bass, it was physically, of course, hard to participate and constantly remember about the skirt. i constantly remember that you are standing on the stage in a slightly different attire if. it is now that you are in ducks and you had to constantly remember about colloquial speech, because parasites are often used in life, which you just the same and pritvovali colleagues and extradite. that was hard too. and so i do not allow myself i was an avatar artist. here it is to ride all the time. with all this equipment, it's very hard. if only it is recorded and then the hologram is put on stage. if only this way the show is recorded once, then there is already a live conversation with the public, some kind of connect question in 30 cities at the same time, for example, like the good old days again about money. yeah bring more joy to people, why is there more joy about money and on the other sides. you can go where you couldn't go anymore, the clones were broken. i

think so again. these are the same avatars as it needs to be fed a little at this angle. we haven't looked at this yet. yes? yes, it was very bright. now, due to social networks, it is impossible to do this. yes, because it wasn’t developed like that, but it seems to me, again, if we are talking about the fact that in thirty cities at the same time you can perform in avatar, there is again such an effect as a glut of its audience and from that this is a lot people can not walk, because it helps a lot. it's like an easily accessible story. and just the same for each city, and so he performed there 30 times a day, and that's it, and the cities ended. and then there's the issue of mission. and what exactly is behind this? why these avatars? it is clear that this is a business, it is clear that entertaining is one thing. and, if you carry something to show something to people, this is different, therefore, this is a very difficult premiere in the first place, i did not even imagine.

not a single unnecessary and not a single unnecessary movement did great. on the two quite remembered, childhood this song will be dad scraping awake at 3:00 am holding this song. there is really this suffering and pain , some kind of bitterness from this moment on. ah, where golden grapes grow three chords new season

on sunday on the first tell me, do you feel the tension from the fact that a very demanding audience is growing, well, to the effects to entertainment, that is, earlier, in principle, the microphone took the stage the cord sticks out and you sing. it seems to me that with time still, and people come to the present i don't know, despite the fact that there are more serious global technologies that we use on stage on tour. the same avatar. yes, all these ah all these novelties that we watch every year that appears on the market. ah. one way or another, people, as they will and vice versa, come more to the spiritual, as if the epoch is changing and see how many people we have who practice yoga. how many people have switched to proper nutrition since people who started reading

how many people who started studying? some questions of a universal scale that they had never been interested in before. on the contrary, i observe a different position. it seems to me that it's all there. and it's good all these innovations of yours. but as if people are still drawn to spiritual things. i'm afraid we 're talking about your generation now. and i'm talking about five-year-olds and ten-year-olds. this is completely different to say, they are afraid of other people. i agree with lucy that at our concerts, when people come, they come, not only will you hear familiar songs there, but they so to speak, they feel some kind of consonant energy and they, yes, for them it is stuffy and therefore it is very important for artists to be sincere. here is a sincere sincerity to share the charge. how to help? eh, just some really now, so today i read the news that there are not enough psychologists in russia , damn it, it seems to me, just the same, that artists are always artists. yes, yes, so to speak, music heals when a person is in a bad mood, or something sometimes turns on his

favorite music and he has a wonderful way. how it’s like everything passes, or some moments of parting experiences are easier to live, on the contrary, a love moment is accompanied by some cool tracks, and it seems to me that anyway, one way or another , but on our way, uh, some - some new technologies are innovations, and everyone will think that this is probably a new competitor for a living artist, but it seems to me that a living artist will never leave and i will say more that people will never want to. uh, so that the artists were replaced by a hologram. although, for example, if talk about a different kind of art, and painting , yes, the show has become very popular, when, for example, paintings or paintings come to life, but are large canvases on the screens. they are, so to speak, somehow also three-dimensional 3d. by the way, i even think about it too. here, maybe make some kind of program, given that i don’t know russian painting well, and the twentieth century, maybe combine it somehow with music,

that is, to enhance the emotion. here, to be children it is, namely to fall down, so that it not just there were some small pictures there in the tablet, because when you look at a picture, a lot is lost in a photograph. so i have to see in volume in good light. it is well lit in a large comfortable room. if it is accompanied by the right music there, for example, relatively speaking, take 10 outstanding paintings of russian art and and 10 classical works. there, too, vasnetsov and aivazovsky bumps, there and further and there tchaikovsky rachmaninov prokofiev there borodin there roman kors yes, that's it and maybe, and children and young people will perceive it more easily both this and that art, because for them it will be some kind of action. well, what, it seems to me, is the main task in children for parents' interests. it's just that i'm also a small nuance. a person's attention, it has declined earlier. remember in the tracks, and in

the songs there could be a loss of 20. for 30 seconds and the person continued to listen to the song , now our attention has decreased to 7-6-5 seconds of the dynamics of reading social networks. this is a constant change of a bright picture that makes you constantly freeze in your smartphone and watch something new new new also, in principle, algorithms are arranged on the internet that we just hang out for hours, because e voice assistant it reads what we are interested in reads the browser history that we we are looking for and gives us exactly that stream of pictures of video memes, like anyone, that where it sits, it doesn’t matter what the music is watching, the stream that will interest us, this is why our number of people hours on the phone is extended, and it seems to me that as since this is the whole story with streaming, because you see the tracks, they are getting shorter, shorter if the track is earlier. could it have been about four

minutes five minutes, that is, we have an hour already. in principle, the songs go for 2 minutes 2 15 220, or even, in short, 40 minutes, and it seems to me, with avatars. it's the same story. now it will be like a flash. everyone was interested, everyone looked carried away, and everything went on. well, what you're talking about, it turns out that art dictates. eh, dictates technology. well , that is, this one here is the transformation of attention, what to do with it? uh educate. well then is to counteract and so on or try to ride this one here. well, that is , we will do 220 songs up to 20 will be 2 minutes will be 2 minutes to captivate. yes, to captivate with something else gradually, but at the same time we can’t go for 2 minutes. he can perceive the work, and then i will try it among some classical work , we will not name such a concert with the famous avatar,

because we don’t know, we know that the film was released with a huge box office the children sat to the end, however, yes, and watching this story because the main character joined a very interesting story. i'm just here for, well, it seems to me that if we create a cool product that has someone who takes the hand, that's what they saw. uh, lucy shoes with the sun of monaco. she took her hand and led her for several months. absolutely led a large audience. that 's what you know about it, how funny i look in the car, when i say, i adore kolenikov's symphonies, for example, there is no fourth part, looks. do you really like it and no matter how i impose, no matter how i admire, no matter how i say that it is very beautiful, that, in principle, it is so mesmerizing and this whole symphony. it just runs through you a person who is next to him either imbued with it, or not, and therefore, unfortunately, we

can’t impose our opinion and somehow accustom it. i think that only time will tell. i just many years. i am engaged in instrumental piano music and i really agree with lucy that there is an audience that accepts it, for which it is very important, who are ready not to bow to many for what i do there, give concerts and so on, but this audience is not very large. here it is much smaller than the audience of our songs. this does not mean that this audience does not need to be dealt with, and it is necessary to try to expand it, of course, but this is a very difficult titanic. in general, this is human work and they will not listen anyway. after all , if if they are used to a 2-minute song, and not five-minute songs, they won’t listen, either , or they should come to this themselves or they should or you need to somehow come up with some special additional visualization for them, because today i was reading again , i was driving in a car, i was reading some news that the text is losing its meaning, that young people

think more in terms of some kind of memes, emoji , there visualizations with pictures are also such serious cardinal global ones, in general we live in times of such a global technical technological, of course revolution . it is very difficult to stop progress. really. i agree that it is necessary well, if it’s not completely blindly following, then, by at least it is necessary to listen to this , to keep an eye on going in line with the times. especially in our business, because we are engaged. eh, as if in culture. yes, it is, so to speak, a culture that is on the cutting edge, which, so to speak, is very e, comparable to fashion , so we may be fashionable, we must be modern, otherwise, so to speak, we are moving to another shelf, but you already if we talk about fashion and modernity, that is, a joint track. uh-huh, i mean, the song turned out so cute. well , just when you release songs you never do you know if it will be a hit? yes, you never know. sorry that now you make me very

funny when the musicians are artists who have written. uh, they seem to be a banger. they say it's a super hit. yes, it's great. it will break. everyone. it will definitely take off honestly, when i released an album on which one of the most important tracks was the sun of monaco and we chose what focus track would be in order to properly push it, we all chose amur, no one even could have thought that the sun of monaco would fly up like that . and when the author says that he wrote a hit, most likely this. well, they've been devalued. well, not not no no no just often the author. i also had a situation here when hmm when when there was also an album and there were songs back and forth on it, there and including hits, and i bet there on one song, and then a person from the records of the company and igor came to me dim you don't understand anything. that's what i'm saying, that's the song there, uh this night, she called that's the very thing she's so right. i say take it off. there, let's go back and forth, atahit. she says,

no, you don’t understand, you have the last one there. song album this was 15 songs on the album called still more here it is necessary to shoot it is such a hit. yes, okay, what kind of general, if not for some kind of friend in general? well, a boring slow shower here. not a stuffy song, but a choking post, the unison will carry it away, the wind. it 's a turn there, you look for me, where is the unius, it won't blow away, the wind is on us a woman with me for the last time. so, yes, the banger happens around here somewhere at night, but it doesn’t surprise you. here is the unprecedented popularity of the group. here hands up uh are going to stadiums. uh,

some kind of ivanushki international. well it's new a surge of some kind, in fact, what is nostalgia? this is just the generation that is now 40-45. uh, it's kind of a little younger than my generation. that's, uh, when hands up was, so to speak, very popular. they were schoolchildren, they were teenagers, then, so to speak, all this was forgotten, and then now it is wildly popular again. i have great chances for you. here you are in 15. here are the clothes and hands up and okay hands up children of these forty-year-olds. i mean, these are your children, you know? they are also happy to take. these are counters. yes, this is it, and now this song is a popular berry, raspberry, even now i have a small one. well, 5 years

, too, i, when malin is that one, it's all because of the same series, yes, it flies into the top. yes, that is, it's all so simple. i'm not saying they're bad, they're good. it's just that they are very simple , memorable and soft on perception. yes, songs. so it's very cool. yes, many now know. yes, yes, gubin too he had great songs. that's just he started a little later than me, but we communicated very well, he was a guy and he is. i hope, here, uh, just somehow he decided the moment in april. e. well, something here at least happened to him psychologically, he decided he left show business. yes , all his songs and music and words are wonderful. yes, now he would also be like ivanushka's hands up would work super and that's it. that's why , like this, i cut my own career like this, you react when you listen to yourself in a croc performed by other people before it was to

noticed that not to hear this for real, the song went to the people, it turns out now it hit. at first it was very, very pleasant, and then you somehow get used to it and very often you don’t even hear how to play. he tells you, about your own, your own song and you are like that, and it is already becoming public domain. yes, you don’t perceive the song so much that it seems as if this is how it should be 7 affect people’s lives, as if they create associations create memories for me the most precious thing that a person can be is memories no of course. me too a lot of stories, when here is some old young song, there is already an adult. the uncle is coming, dim, i went to the army according to your song, there i said goodbye to the girl, then i wrote sad there, she waited for me and well, how would everyone have such music, such songs that are associated with some important events in life. i have one last question. in principle, i already understand, uh,

probably the answer, but still. what do you think? how many years i live as an artist is still ahead when he will defeat all technologies with his talent, skill and skills voices home, century, just enough for lucy , i hope it's also enough. yes definitely cool. it's just that we, i think, we have raised a few, the topics are very creative, how much can you look further directly from the air and further develop. uh, those ideas that came in connection with the avatars. tv viewers. write to us what our program led you to your social networks. lucy to your social networks. write send social networks. oh please tell me lena kiper whether you want to be a karabas barabas with your own tame avatar, but you have suffered a lot with the artists, honestly speaking on that optimistic note, dear friends. malikov is really an angel. here is an angel man. i believe they ain't no mission

uh in my opinion. i have worked with various artists. an artist comes, creates an art object with himself, creates an example, creates with himself. uh, a way of thinking and living and gives it as a recipe for living a creative recipe for living. and god grant that everyone has a lot of time to create such powerful creative pillars for themselves, which one must be equal to. such artists are very important. secret, when lena and i were in the studio in the eighteenth year, on the twenty-third of january, and we were recording a very good song , the last romantic, and the phone rang for me. he says that it's time for dmitry yuryevich to go to the hospital, and my son was born on the 24th. friends. my this new new generation of musicals is already in general being born. yes, only in the top, that they were great artists lusya chebotina dmitry

malikov and roman pockets elena kiper thank you very much for coming to us. thank you good night dear friends. hello dear viewers, we are with you at night on the first and this is mikhail khanov and the easy money podcast. today my guest is a wonderful woman, evgeniya blovovka , director of the national center for financial literacy. and what is especially important, the author of the book is children and money or money and children. we will definitely talk about this topic and about this book too hello eugene , hello mikhail today we wanted to talk about a very seemingly ordinary simple topic like financial habits financial literacy. i call it financial hygiene.