perhaps she eliminated something that could compromise her in some way. in general, i’m thinking at that time, yes, well , europe was already in russia, naturally enlightened , this is the attitude towards russia in which there were slaves. well, serfdom about slavery is the same slavery, or maybe marriages were considered then, that's already such a furious alliance. no, maybe it was unusual. maybe they would have turned away from her if she had gone out, no , this was not the case, slaves are one thing or quite another aristocrats of such marriages were very a lot of. and of course, a lot of russian girls married europeans from a good family, and from aristocratic and just from the nobility and on the other hand. foreigners have already married russian girls they came to russia and made careers there, that is, uh, uh, the upper layer was international and you know what's the matter. here turgenev's position was unique , you see. turgenev was european, even a world star, because he had admirers across

the ocean and was not yet fat dostoevsky and was not close. and turgenev was super becomes a doctor of law at oxford university, as a writer for the hunter's notes, which played a huge role in the abolition of serfdom. i mean, this european superstar is a friend of the flaber, there are other famous french writers, so of course not. that is, it would not be an obstacle to marriage, but it was an obstacle to marriage. i think it's mutual dislike. well, plus they just didn't have enough time, because the iliad died. uh, a few months before death from turgen. he would have been terribly ill by now, uh, had cancer. incorrectly placed. well, i'm not a doctor, i can't do anything, so i can say about it. yes, i don’t really understand, maybe i’m from a different one in general. well, how would this greedy look at it and served. uh, mona loved him, but perhaps children from her

husband, and not a single one during this period. yeah, first of all, uh, she had to comply. uh, so to speak, decency. yes, maria nikolaevna tolstaya, she did not love her husband for sure, but she also gave birth to children from him and you never know families in which only beloved men and women give birth to children. yes it is in general here, it seems to me, nothing is clear. no , despite the fact that it is quite obvious that not all children of the e family are from louis argo. yes, there are serious questions there. it can be children and arrogance, and there are children of shepherds, but about others, but the question is, what is it? what could it be. children. turgenev you, e somehow he does not have. try it, theoretically such rumors could have been circulating, but we don’t know for sure, it seems that it doesn’t work out very well in time. yes , it doesn’t work out very well, although turgenev

loved them all. that is, he treated them, like to your own, but if careless children, well , tell your nephews, but the descendants remained alive , you don’t know, still no no, because yes , the daughter had a very tragic fate. uh, the husband went bankrupt the husband went bankrupt. and so, just this happened in the early eighties, when turgenev was already ill. the daughter of her husband left , went with the children to switzerland, there were two children, jeanne and georges, and she asked her father for more and more money. yes, she asked for money for maintenance and apparently there were some scandals of the gigantic vr because she correspondence is also mentioned. uh, he doesn't die by hand, and he left his fortune down the line, and then the husband. uh, polynety begins, uh, the process against polina erdo, trying to argue this will is unsuccessful, because all the legal subtleties are observed. but nevertheless there was also such a posthumous scandal. very beautiful here. and a very poor

life beyond the polynet was supported by her eldest daughter , who gave music lessons and taught, so it’s amazing e didn’t have children, neither zhanna really, that is , there were no descendants of turgenev my daughter with a cry and tears asked me to squat in her hands those 30,000 francs with which the capital belonging to her children was to be replenished. at first i refused with the firmness of foreseeing that these 30,000 would be swallowed up by the same insatiable abyss. yes, the insatiable abyss is her husband's business, which at that moment began to suffer serious losses. he constantly wanted money. uh, it didn’t work, he went bankrupt and turgenev didn’t want to give, because he understood that this was doomed. yes, this will doom his daughter, but here is poverty, but all the exhortations were futile. eventually. she just left her husband herself, but she herself has something to live for, of course. a beautiful and extremely tragic story, this

whole tragedy that began in previous generations. uh, control families. i think now some kind of hereditary horn pursued them hereditary tragic rock. there would not have been this hereditary tragic rock, there would not have been so many positive and negative moments in life that overwhelmed him, yes , which tormented his soul, there would not have been these beautiful works that remained after him, truth of course, the most such recharge. well, of course, any writer cannot live without emotions, because without impressions. ah, yes, turgenev's personal life is reflected very vividly in his works. and now , it is not by chance that we have already talked with you, and other low girls are fine to solve their charming courageous and light-hearted people who cannot cope with those. e. mi problems with the obstacles that stand in their way. thank you very

interesting. i have a lot of questions. we will meet with pleasure. thanks a lot. my name is larisa guzeeva is a podcast of letters, and historian igor yakovlev was my guest hello everyone. this is a podcast of memories 20 years later, in which i am host konstantin mikhailov my star guests, let's discuss 2005 this time, which songs were at the peak of the charts, which television project started on channel one today as a guest? i have yulia savicheva, a beautiful girl, a talented singer, a participant in the tv projects star factory 2 and the eurovision 2004 contests, but also a plus in 2005. there was a series

featuring her song. yes, i called him don't be born godzilla konstantin aka bones. hello bones in 2005. just you participated in maksidom 2005 maxidme. we participated in the film don't be born godzilla, they say, everything was then with us too. actually , he did something in this film, and in this film we sang the song heart in one of the episodes there and there, yes, i was sitting on the piano. so he was young, still hairy, uh, played, soulful and sang this song. that was the thing. yes, listen to serial history is a very, very profitable thing. we met recently. with zhenya figs are there the end of the film, how it popped, uh, his team after he sang in the song for the tv series soldiers television great power great power, especially when this song for the series and

yulia's song i myself remember, i didn’t drag it, thank you, but on the one hand , and the series yes is understandable every day and it eats into the head, but still. the value of the song itself is what it is, after all, all sorts of remakes of remixes are still being made on it, young people are dragged from it, what is surprising, i did not think that there would be such a continuation of the banquet - this is for the song. if the heart lives love, and she became mine visiting card. well, there is another song high, of course, with which i started uh my big way, uh, and it is also one of my title songs. but now, if all this is love, this is something separate, this is some kind of separate planet that , it seems to me, will outlive us all, and you shot the video for the song wind on a chromac, because you are standing there against the backdrop of the theater, then whether big, but highly interesting, that's how no one

has called it yet. why did i think this was a mistake according to freud because we recently spoke with manakini with the singer, they just remembered that moment at the factory she once sang with her zo call me the sun, the wind, yeah, and remember what it was. well, almost like that. here you are still such a girl even compared to a child. here you are, well done , precisely with your voice, but here, in terms of freedom of communication, maybe with the public in mono, of course, i was already more experienced. of course, how do you feel? somehow oh, i generally remember that factory period, and for me this is on the one hand. extremely difficult even, but on the other the sides are so interesting, and there my growing up took place in front of everyone in the whole country. and it saved me, maybe my youth

is just like that, even childishness and rose-colored glasses in front of my eyes. here it helped. when did you first appear for me? i'm like he caught our avril. well, you know then it was fashionable. and for some reason, then i fell in love with truly alternative music, some kind of turning point. it happened to me after the song high, and everything and it started. well, plus uh, that's natural hair. i have straight lines. well, there really is facial resemblance. i even have my child anya , when she sees avril lavigne's bread. oh, mom, she says, she went so really there is some kind of similarity. i know that the girl is so whole, that is, if you are engaged in creativity, you have only creativity. eh, those, there's no one at the factory that's not like it, clean. like uh like a boy. a. well, pirskhalava was such a man

who went around kissing everyone. i know, listen, he’s just so wide, so hospitable there, well, of course, the guy was immersed, and then there was a period that was waiting for me. i don't know jealous or not, blond with blue eyes. he wrote letters to me and gave me toys. your 2005 oh, this is a take-off - this is when unknown groups from the city of samara of the brothers grimm group, this does not happen often in show business, because many show business has reasons to be famous, that is, we did not participate in any week of the project nowhere. we were just simple guys who wrote songs themselves, ranked just like this local samara. and suddenly, all of a sudden, in 2005. here we get the opportunity we become famous all over the russian-speaking world all of a sudden, how did it happen so who did you

send the song to. we just didn’t send songs clips to anyone, in fact, at one fine moment. they hit leni burlakov, who at that time was already a little bit. uh, well, a little out of business. i would even say, well, that is, somehow this is a coincidence , this luck is always understandable, but we wrote so many good songs. and that they have already begun to overflow this critical cup and it all began to splash out rudely speaking and throw it where it needs to be? the moment and here it is, here it is, the sizyaveznie went, which was being prepared. maybe there do not know 8 years, wrote these songs. they are made there. yes, the situation is happening. i've been for 4 years now. e non-producer. by itself, right . yes, it can be difficult, of course, in some moments it is easier. well, to organize it myself, when you are without a producer and the like, i have, for example, been practically 14 years without a producer. that is, it is normal. here, who

say exactly the last name, he is a friend of a musician, he is an assistant manager, because people like no, not thanks to him, but in front of his eyes he brought the maximum to other more important radio stations from below, as a rule , in order to become really popular , you had to get into russian, you had to get to europe, plus you had to get on music tv. so, in general, on mtv yes, and in general , on these cars no, not by yourself, and another person alena mikhailovna did not bring it there on the one hand, that you did the material yourself , the product, but it had to be moved and shown when there was no internet, then there was no internet, and then people were needed conductors who will simply deliver this material correctly, and to the general audience, and this happened to us. let's put it this way many thanks to lena many thanks to alena mikhailova

these people just helped us to do it. that 's when we really released our first album and became. well, yes, then beatlamania began. this, of course, in relation to the brothers. i remember i had a hard time during that period. but because, uh, when you are an unknown simple guy from the samara outback. yes, and suddenly you suddenly any a person who suddenly receives such strong attention to his person. he is psychologically not ready for this any and therefore had to somehow cope with this somehow and glory. god, i did it and now you see, and well, then you start to think that you are probably better than the rest such a stupid thought comes to your mind, probably you , uh, well, yes, delusions of grandeur certainly begin. there you go into the dressing room, you see some of your colleagues, you look down on them, they didn’t tell me later. people told me the history of the era, my colleagues they said, here, uh, i remember you did this, that

, that, i say, you can’t be like that, it’s not me, it’s not me, it’s not so i was ashamed to be serious. yes burlakov. by the way, he said very clearly that there was no internet, but now it’s easier, because he’s only consulting barge haulers now, it’s not easier now. i would say so, this is an artist, let's say so. well , i would not say it is more accessible in modern show business. yes, you need that person, probably, who will tell you and show you. it's basically that people are not a musician, he is not a musician, but by parts, for example, here is julia max fadeev yes , it was when the oil musician was a fat composer in the modern world people. many here. for example , i have friends from a young group. good. yes, let's say, now a fashionable group, they also do everything themselves, now the internet has allowed them to do everything themselves to shoot clips. if you have some taste, at least it says there, a rudimentary sense of taste and jealousy, then you can do everything, so don't worry, you don't need a producer. yes, yes, you say,

here i am without a producer, how is it over there? no i she didn't say that, she didn't mean anything. listen, calm down. look, i want , i wanted to say what to say, the point is not that i am without a producer. lord no. uh, we worked together for so many years, if not for maxim fadeev , then perhaps no one would have known about such yulia savicheva, and even more so with some hits with such grandiose songs. here, and, of course, he is my music teacher and still remains one. well, we still communicate here, you know? i just want to understand a lot myself and be able to move to a new level, to put it bluntly, yeah, uh, and when you're in the production house, there's a lot you don't do at all. you don't understand a lot, you don't know, uh, scenes and you sing me, of course , come there. come here. yes. you have to look good, uh, love. matter

of fact, and to please people everything else. you do n't understand. this , of course, depressed me, and for the fourth year already. hmm, at first it was unrealistically difficult to understand at all that now i have to understand and do someone helps, of course, and in 2005 who, except max helped? still, you or the factory, of course, there lina grief putin 2005 began a new period. e with nastya maximova who wrote just if love lives in the heart, hello, how are you? here are all the hits that are still very much loved. and so she was my music producer at the time, but max was still, uh, sort of close by. yes, he advises the cottage. and now, for example, young guys from belarus with whom i am currently collaborating, and they are insanely

talented. well, very young people don't understand a lot of things, and i just tell them specifically that needs to be redone. ah. well, in general, partly. yes, the burlakova came along. raskar children 20 years later today we are talking about 2005. my name is konstantin mikhailov and my guests are yulia savicheva and konstantin burdaev. i like that you communicate. i generally sit like this and watch. look, i just introduced you to such a domino so old you said as you batted your eyelashes. well, it so happened that it took off. it happened. what, well, yes, of course, some kind of chart was needed, a breaking hit, what is it called? yes songs

eyelashes has become such a song, which, yes, drew attention. here, she is so bright, yes, there is only one album. yes, yes, the same album. so the eyelashes appeared, clapped and it all began. and who wrote? well, we have always been composers and authors of our songs. yes listen, what happened to boris like everything is fine. he, as it were, at some certain point in time he decided that he had outgrown the group of the green brothers, so he decided to strike such a deep psychedelic into another work, india indie or well, such and such even said. here he is doing this and a long time ago he went into the underground. uh, i've been leading the brothers grim groups for many years. i well, everyone chooses now or somewhere far away. yul you didn't try to explore the trend and pierce your ass in 2005, because

everyone did it. oh, no. it pissed me off so much is all. honestly, yes, i liked it. hey, how are you back now? this is all fashion, yet cyclical. these are all on the ears there are earrings on the lips. yes, this is what i liked. i, as a man, can say, no there, so i liked him more than just a girl, then dressed more sexy. in my opinion, in my opinion, because they had a low low waist at the brek, they are stretched, well , now there is and here is a high fit, but, but the low one has returned again now again seriously. now everything is back again. here are those 2003 2005 these miniskirts were miniskirts that looked more like a train of some returned girl were free. then also i could look in 2003-2007. now

it's you. it's you now fashion trends follow fashion trends most people, they still that's how the fashion has gone now. here he is pulling his pants up to georgia. here they are, and so far the youth walk. i already know. this is the eighties, so the nineties there are oversala, these are the nineties, just, apparently, now. by the way, this is such a phenomenon or a phenomenon, whatever. here, and that people like to be nostalgic for e, now 20 years have passed. well, 20 years go by and people get nostalgic. this is the cyclicity, it is reflected in fashion. you look then they became, all sorts of fashionable slr cameras, and everyone decided that he was a photographer, but everyone bought camera, but not bought to take pictures, bought about the war and bought to drive the same. yes, and the car is still lying, a slr camera. that is also big. yes, she, too, then buy- many girls, then, uh, wanted to do some kind of creativity. the easiest way for me was to buy

a dslr and take pictures. and by the way, she took a lot of pictures of me there. she once photographed. and you yes, she was a fan of the brothers grimm, she did not immediately become my wife. so she went to a concert , photographed me and then became my wife. here is such a story. these are yes, i got married. well , this is often the topic of marrying a fan, it turns out your husband. my husband is an alternative musician, originally. while still at the factory, i heard his group, where he sings, one might say. it was he who married a fan, everything is clear. javadxan so perhaps even so, too, interpret. maybe so i heard everything, this is the action of his voice. and there they had such a very lyrical song that, surprisingly, among all this, all this bacchanalia, it touched me so much. i

i realized that, well, this is such a beautiful soul person, and i really want to get to know him. as if he is real, as if, well, i left the factory. i immediately called him myself, because they did not let me go to their concert. my dad says what kind of vocational school it is though, although he is a rock musician himself. in general, i did not expect from him. well, uh, well, i had to call myself , i was not afraid of anything, everyone is so surprised. and why like yourself? well, what is it? in general, i'm a simple girl, picked up the phone, called, let's meet, otherwise we're on tour. with factory your then a bunch of tours were, generally just endless. it was summer, as i remember now, but before that, of course, i said goodbye to my previous young man, who wrote to me at the factory, but i probably didn’t. i'm just absolutely not my person, because he

was all so correct. dramatically spoiled, well, yes, girl, yulechka became just an alternative one. here's a break. well, that's all, and we immediately met somehow and away we go, listen, do you know that this year a selfie was invented which is 2005, this, in my opinion, britney spears' parishilton took a picture of themselves for the first time. yes, it's all lies. in fact, the selfie was invented a long time ago back in the days of the king of peas, when people photographed real shift axes so correctly. yes, show me such a photo where the hand is visible and it is clear that the person himself had such pictures, that the person himself is not, and not earlier in a different way, they urgently did this before, as if reporting, they inserted a camera. they wound him up and got him up. and exactly. by the way, well, wait, it was also, in my opinion,

where the wok itself is there yes, that's what he invented. wolf well, wait a minute, setter listen, let's move on to the films, what we got out there this year. listen to me in general, when they ask about zero. i usually answer. i don't remember zero. why? well, because he was rarely ahead. own cinema, well, i was direct. i was intoxicated with the events that took place in my life and there was a movie to watch then. in general, i also had tours with the factory, then my tours, yes, i started, i will name a couple of films. you will now understand that they still did not pass by. well , first of all, brokeback mountain. oh lord, forgive me. yes, i tried to watch, but my my fiber suffocates me to calmly perceive, as a person who has passed the director, where they tried all kinds of films with the most alternative

version of makira, croissants tried us with japanese cinema, spanish cinema, and i know that sometimes you need to watch films at the end and at the end there will be an easter egg, at the end you will understand that it was not in vain these 3 hours of torment when japan climbs the mountain, then another hour and a half back here. i watched it to the end, and then i didn’t know that there was a subpoena and their uh-huh, but then i realized why all this was viperko. and by the way, about the films, and then the film films and the world of kusturica were popular, and do you know why? by the way, yes, it’s not just that we inserted prokusturits for no reason; initially in kusturica’s song there was no mention of the lord at all, it was called she is a wet chicken. and there, that is, and you, after kusturica's film, there was no such phrase. so i remember, leni came up to us, said, listen, well, the song is cool, and let's put on something fashionable, so that the locals, this is the local beau monde from moscow, so that he gets through. let's become. here kusturiza

rhymes well with chicken. i say, well, let's put it in, because he is well jealous and then such a story was interesting to me then the guys told the music stores that worked in samara included such a hefty man, because the people in the general mass, of course, did not know such kusturica, that's all - a little sophisticated movie dasha and he enters so hefty. the man says, listen, let me tinker about. i don't know what a kusturica song is. cool. i think you are on your own he was, perhaps, also a hefty beard and the world of maratovich knows that in russia there is just such a one he likes, that is , barge haulers came up with the idea of ​​​​inserting a kusturitsa after all. yes, he said that he was some kind of very strong peach in the cinema and from time to time he threw some quotes from the cinema to us. and then the kusturis came. yes, in the same year , christopher nolan's completely chic remake of batman came out with christian bale, the chic christian bale, who, after the machinist, where he weighed 40 kg there. he brought himself to

exhaustion for seven months has been swung up to batman and on my mind. this is the best batman of all temporary peoples, it was christian who was nolanovsky. do you remember, i remember this, where he was very thin. this is a family, it was like watching, yes, a little maniac, but here he is batman, he is cool, this is the atmosphere. she's very creepy, that is, not comic-like like tim burton's she is very straight. well, everything is straight for the truth, very cool. the same year came out, another version of charlie's pride prejudice in the chocolate factory this year came out our relatives. children watched this charlie chocolate fabry i almost knew her by heart of this film, all the children died there, i understand it, it’s good that i didn’t watch this film. i would also not stand in a children's audience clearly. absolutely images are so bright, and you have no sweet tooth. yes, i

have a sweet tooth. of course, i have cakes. doing it myself would like a factory. it is necessary then to throw show business, e music and generally engage in. only with this, i have already been hinted that this is not necessary somehow. half but it's better to quit right away. well, who mostly likes to make hmm mousse cakes, they quite complex long, but incredibly tender and tasty, the chronicles of narnia came out , do you remember, and there was snow, yes, yes, yes, this strange one looked. yes, i still don’t understand, but match point with scarlett johant looks, which means that i also remember a chic movie, you’re dreaming of a leportman. this anti-gachevsky was removed, domestic. mm, the film market, e did not lag behind. the state councilor released two whole films about erast fandorin, this is the state councilor with oleg less. to whom in the role of fandorin and with nikita

mikhalkov and the turkish gambit hmm i watched house, he came out the ninth company, so to say this film, by the way, the films of the master and margarita series mini-series is when you are yes, yes master and margarita with abdulov svashvili, just this amazing 2006. i remember watching it from star wars. episode three months of the sith. wow, i stopped watching star wars. everything is not, nor your subject. they were good, these are the ones, because then some kind of farce already went on, by the way, about music. i'm now also raising the archives in 2005, there was an r&b boom , some such fifty-cent shot, by the way, from his candish. yes, it was on a wave then

powerfully, by the way, these rmbia appear, artists and even then there was no hip-hop , as comprehensive as it became here a little later, well, then it was still popular, again, rock music according to professional music, because here the same artists, let's say, with whom we performed on maxim, this and frans ferdinand this and kaiser are clean, these are the british, all these are many of these groups, which are now almost inaudible. yes, but these groups were on the wave then. so we remember then, a lot of their own songs are composed, the arrangement of them, they adopted a lot, they tried to adopt from them. well, that is, they learned from them. but then it was still popular. yes, they were going to the gorilla stadium, by the way, they organized themselves. this is a daemonalder. soloist, blair. i came up with a cartoon project such yes, yes, yes. confession on

the dance floor, and from our dima bilan you should have been there. uh, zhanna friske began, by the way, a solo career and so on. la-la-la and i remember the episode of zhanna friske e in the context of the e-e program about africa on channel one, there was a reality show program called the heart of africa or the last hero. they were supposed to live in a place from the tribe domogarov, in my opinion, and there are risks, just ira toni would be there and many, many others. uh, you weren’t invited people to this one here, the guests were on a project in africa south africa , but i don’t remember what it’s called specifically, probably it was sleeping, eating there for 3 days on earth with them, to get caught. it was tough, that is, both in the last hero and in the heart of africa, i still can’t fit in my head, like the project of channel one, it seems, how all the artist should be

a bus, a separate trailer. they are real there. everyone slept on the floor, ate karenin, everything was really bananas. i saw the ocean for the first time in my life. then i remember the indian ocean. i saw such emotions. i didn't understand. it’s scary and on the other hand it’s so amazing, but now we, in principle, are coming to the end of our wonderful podcast, although he doesn’t want to remember, of course, yes, almost, well, it seems to me that we managed to remember everything important, if how since something important from your memories of 2005 has left me covered, well, 2005. this is probably the brightest year, probably in my youth. this was my youth, after all, then this one, this one , this one, the popularization of our work was so explosive. i would even say, that is, we ceased to be a local samara group became an all-russian group and so on. well , here it is, yes. it was certainly encouraging.

here. well, and now a new new life has begun, my 2005 will be like this, and in 2005 i have a. it turns out that the second wind opened. what artist yulia savicheva because 2003 it was a factory and high with ships. uh, this the first breath, when they recognized me, now the country fell in love. and here, second wind began with a song, if love lives in the heart from the series don’t be born beautiful, and then it just bombed, and then all these hits went on just nastya maximova about, which i told you, and then already in 2006-2007 . i was going to stage presentations of this album. here. e, yes. yes, we were sitting somewhere on the arbat somewhere in a casino. yes, we were sitting, and there was just a presentation where there was a small car in the clip. yes, yes, two small

cars, this is one of my favorite clips. in general, well, the third wind cakes. what is the third cake is not, the third wind, i have already gone with the song moscow-vladivostok, after that period of maksimova's tackle no, this is already the tenth. well, i, too, then e in the tenth year. uh, max wrote moscow-vladivostok, and everything and the third wind started, and now it's the fourth, eh. write in the comments. i really have everything so bad now in my musical career that i switched to cakes nearby. she would you know i did. you you know the story about donna coroleona, who retired and started growing tomatoes. so this is actually cake. it will really be the biggest truth 50 years 60 years. of course, they weren’t the same anymore, and now, and now, uh, fourth wind,

that means, uh. well, it started when i continued on my own, without a production center and the first successful songs. love will find. and yes, then there is the album, which was released not so long ago, elements, which included songs. well, here's a yellow taxi. well, in general, if you remember, what successful releases before that were separate. yes, this is everest. here is the state, and weather forecasters. and well, in general, some successful ones. indeed, the stories that now continue to happen a little early. i’m talking at 60 until yulia is 60. today we are remembering 2005 , i have yuri savicheva and konstantin burdaev as my guests, the brothers grimm, and maybe until yulia switched to cakes, until i 60 yulia sings something . oh, of course, let's sing. forgot

where are you and i? time you

i will fly away in myself. i will fly you.

high quiet flight t don't forget. the heart of my songs forever with you.

where are we with you? i'm not alone. i 'll fly away in myself i'll fly you to the sky for a star high