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Understanding 9/11tv Anti Feik 1TV February 6, 2023 9:20am-9:56am MSK
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yes, people had to be led in small groups, the rescue operation and in other parts of the country it was impossible to get to some roads, some areas were covered with fallen trees , even power lines could not withstand. thousands of houses without light. well, in the usa, during a storm, a man was rescued from an overturned yacht, that’s how the old people had it, colombia , a huge wave covers the ship, but the person who stood at the stern capsizes and makes a full turn throws out water. as a result, the man was caught and taken to hospital in hypothermia later it turned out that this is a criminal who was wanted, and the yacht was stolen.
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that’s all for now, we’ll be back with the news, but right now antik was on the air. we saw a video, now i’m asking this question with a special meaning, who, according to ukrainian propaganda , is expelling the residents of gorlovka from work, how garbage in europe got into fakes about russia and who is hunting for foreign soldiers in the donbas about this and many other things in the program today? this is an anti-fake program here we are waging our fight against fakes and disinformation in our studio today gregory pernavsky historian and journalist dmitry sidorin, a specialist in the field of big data and alexander rakhmonov, a military expert and head of the kremlin-9 s-sop department , thank you for coming, we will analyze the first fake about ukrainian telegram channels, they distribute footage of unkempt streets and courtyards, claims that this is supposedly russia is what they write. why do many russians believe in delusional tales that in europe they see freezing
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and not washing, because many russians want to believe it. they don't want to live better on their own they want to believe that others have begun to live worse and that's how they are. actually frames it is accompanied looks really unsightly. grigory, this reminds you of something, no, it reminds you, first of all, that i am, for example, such high-rise buildings. of course, i have not been everywhere in russia . i have not seen such high-rise buildings of this type in russia. i have never seen such filthiness in my life , although in the nineties in many cities of russia there really were very big problems with garbage disposal, but it didn’t even come to this, but high-rise buildings, it seems, in principle, on standard no glazing. not ours , uh, we have a little other squares of glazing of the balcony part and such a number of rusty shells of the nineties, there were a lot of shells , but they have been removed from us since the zero years. and if outside of moscow i understand
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the closing of houses, what is curious about our wall. here they stand a little at an angle, one relative to the other , a spectacle, really such a sad dmitry what is known about this and how this case was dispersed was exposed on the site, which, to be honest, i have always been so skeptical that young people are there to laugh at memes to post, and then i saw a directly detailed analysis of a fake. there are references to reddit. it is also a global social network. e, to a greater extent, american, where there is such a community as urban hell, an urban hell and it was told just about the area, but the stolypin area is called - this is the city of plovdiv e in bulgaria and a few comments sites, because i didn’t think that they were so they are well aware of being ironic about uh fakes that are made by ukraine, uh, the top
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comments. under this article ukrainian the telegram channel wrote a lie about russia cannot be. this is where the person responds. i would be surprised. if they wrote the truth there , too, a person comments on the arrest recently, however, he said he was asked to leave. that's how people, basically, comment. they fully understand the adequacy of what is happening and, of course, something truthful or something pleasant about russia is expected in the telegram channel, i think that we can now find out all the details, because the chairman of the e-board of the eurasian institute of geopolitics and economics, and the flames of the milesians welcome you to our program. here we are now seeing, of course, a really sad area. please tell us where it is so that our viewers are aware, because fakes say that this is supposedly russia, this is located in the city of roach.
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50-60.000 people live there, but this is what it shows, and this happened since 2005, the tank at the main service in bulgaria goes on strike for 1 month, that the state needs to pay more money, but this is an old picture. like now situation in the city. here we are discussing fake everything or is it normal with garbage disposal. now there are no such problems, and in the city of sofia - it's all right. the utilities of this work are fine, but i'll tell you about my three months ago were in moscow with me there would be businessmen, and we looked at the street and they said, you understand that we get it and for 12 minutes four cars like to collect garbage and to clean my capital we don't have such a europe itself clean city europe they tell you. this is moscow like this in st. petersburg and in moscow there and in kursk where
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i was there and so in kazan and in the crimea i have been to this city many times, and we saw with older eyes how it is coonan and the service works perfectly. please tell me how the people of bulgaria now feel about the special military operation, how they generally relate to russia, what do you hear on the streets, what are people talking about? and you know, we have a carrot about the american about the western people about the russian , this is a uniquely unique case, which turns out to be mine in two years we will make five parliamentarian elections march will be a new talented elections in bulgaria again. i told you that we had 150,000 refugees baptized at first, when we arrived, everything was full of people who helped and that's it, but now they have increased. what a mess it will make bulgaria and the relationship has become different, and i’ll say something else, we did it for generators, they gave it to our bulgarians in the odessa region. they are selling units now. they are now also selling
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generators back to bulgaria. yes, yes, yes, yes, just a chic business. it seems to me that you get it for free, and you sell it back to you huge. thanks to the bulgarian people hello. say hello to russia to the russian people. in alexander i will have a very brief commentary, when the bulgarians participated in maneuvers as part of the nato troops, and they were given growth targets similar in shape, and of course, the enemy’s silhouette e, the russian army. they refused to fire on them. i was required to replace the target , which is indicative of this. it can be said, such a quiet scandal at the command of maneuvers, but i had to change the fact that they will not shoot soon, that is, when decisions are made at the government level what is clear is that the top in europe has long been bought, since the second world war. well, it's impossible to buy people, because they don't care. it doesn't matter that everything is decided by the top. we will not
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categorically shoot at the russians. so, just now we see from, uh, the peaceful protests of bulgaria , yes . i listened to the situation that ukrainian visitors, so to speak, bulgaria are no longer very somehow. i understand how they behave, i i would change the fake. see what bulgaria has become after the arrival of the ukrainians. oh well, that is, if they write, look like this, what is happening in russia, i would write to them. no that's not true. this is happening in bulgaria after your arrival, bulgaria today does not belong to bulgaria bulgaria today is bought entirely by western capital and as far as i remember, there are even, in my opinion, gold mines and roads and the power supply system belong to the french belgians germans when i was in bulgaria 5 years ago, then older women the tour guide complained that she could not work on a year because the utility bills are higher than the pension,
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bulgaria by the way, which is well in soviet times. it's not exactly prosperous there, but anyway. the people there were not poor. and here is such a picture there , you can never even imagine, but it was impossible. by the way, here is the bulgarian lev for example. in general, he went to the ruble one to one . it is interesting that there was no difference at all , both banknotes and coins. sometimes even in stores they confused how similar they were. and so the fact is that bulgaria is one of the examples. how far the country can be brought by industrialization, which was carried out there most aggressively. here are bulgaria, mongolia , two countries in which almost the entire local industry was destroyed. let 's just say this is a picture of what the west did, and by normal countries, when they were absorbed by it. eh, we got it right. let's move on to the next one. it is already closer to us that ukrainian telegram channels are spreading information that supposedly russians are expelling people in the luhansk region from houses. why is it unclear? well, let's
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look and listen to the well-known speaker. what news from there? if the dynamics is that people are trying to leave from there, and people from the people around the front are villages or already settlements, the criminal rubizhnoye is already starting to expel them all. basically, they are starting to drive them deeper into the luhansk region. well , let alexander comment dmitry will probably expose the final. uh, the fact is that kohl will soon talk about the eviction of people. you must see columns of refugees who i pull mine nowhere, and in winter they naturally freeze and, probably, beg for alms, because the cultures of people are driven out to nowhere. here is a fine rune. all chose somehow such things, probably do not understand or live in an abstract world in the next moment. it’s written here, that is, you somehow understand, the live broadcast is coming directly from lugansk, and he , uh, probably, after all, is not in
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luhansk. that is, if it’s luhansk, then i can absolutely calmly say, luhansk region or somewhere there nearby. i would be interested would be his persona you would try to establish. who is so cunning that he gives such reports right from there and such individuals should ask questions, how, after all, a confusion of concepts, a punitive operation, an operation to have fun and evacuate the population - these are generally completely different concepts, they diverge from a semantic point of view and e , i would say from the point of view of organizing organizational evacuation, of course, the battle zone is being carried out and will be carried out, because people can get there. ah, of course, under fire. i want to calm down because this character is located in the lugansk region. this is exactly the deputy of the ukrainian walks, and by the name of gaidai who constantly talks about what is happening in the luhansk region. he himself hadn't been there in a long time. and as far as i remember, i wasn't. he's been there before the operation even started. here ah said,
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where did they e, kicked out, where did they go. and if the name of specific settlements happened somewhere, we don’t see anything, because we don’t see anything, but at least i would come up with something out of my head. well it usually a hack. agree. dimitri get it. yes, i noticed a few things, firstly, what we see is called a telethon. what makes me shudder? yes, i’m just afraid to imagine how much brad there can fill this infinity for this telephone phone, in principle, the news has leaked out . i found a public group vkontakte where there are quotes from this person and defiantly pressed the button to complain about extremist statements. here is actually contributed to the cleansing of the information space. from brad, here's a hundred i recommend
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doing all our viewers e do not pass by. this is our small contribution. and in lugansk , they happen to be there in december, giving a lecture. i'm going to be there in the very near future and not just lugansk, but also in the region, hundreds of kilometers in one direction or the other, and i can say that lugansk itself gives the impression of an extraordinary clean city. even in the autumn-winter period, there is surprisingly little to do with universities and there are shops and, uh, what i can probably say, referring to the previous fake, the cleanliness of the city is surprising, since we are talking about a pre-front city, by the way, a heroic city, because it will probably be an extra rope, but at the entrance, well, on one of the mountains there are a t-34 tank, which lugania removed from the pedestal took part in the battles. and again a pedestal was put up, when they recaptured their city, put up, well , the soldiers are here for the second time, not only about lugansk , andrey mikhailovich is in touch with us now ambulance, acting head of the city
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of lisichansk, we’ll just ask him for answers to questions, yes, and andrei mikhailovich , tell me. please, is it true that the russians are driving the residents of the lugansk republic out of their homes and sending them to an unknown destination? nobody kicks anyone out, we live a normal life in the second city, people leave quietly. yes, the entrance is tightened. e requirements, since it is a pre-frontal city that submits documents, you can immediately drive safely and come to our city. if now well, i don’t know any repressive punishers, if the comrade of ukraine has facts. be tells according to my information, the punitive ones were in the fourteenth year, people who left could not pay for the apartment, the apartment was confiscated and sold, there are already several appeals about this, well, we are directing the court and we will decide to return the property to ours, that
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is, the apartments of the militia, which defended their cities , sub- sold by the ukrainian authorities. it was not only in general, but they took away the last people who simply they left, in theory, for reasons of russia , they could not pay, since there were punitive repressions. now he has arrived and they have reprimanded him. well, under this sun, they took and took away apartments, then they were resold to make money on it. well, the same our head of the region, who was before you came to russia. tell us about the peaceful life in lisichansk today. well, now it's a normal city. that is, we have garbage removed; transport works; transport works in stores ; goods are delivered; roofs are being repaired; they allow it to be done, because shelling is constantly going on. all the best to the inhabitants
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of lisichansk. and in general , a huge hello to the residents of the liberated territories and hold on. the victory will soon be complemented by the usual scheme of an attempt to tell everyone what is in our territories in these territories that the russian army liberated. uh, some kind of hell is going on creepy, so that people who lived on the territory of ukraine in the first place, were afraid. secondly, they thought that they were still not so bad. well, naturally. uh, like always, it's fixing some kind of panic. some doubts, because, well, a person talks about the fact that relatives of people who live in russia are evicting everyone here, and they start trying to find these people, and some kind of anxiety is created to find it. well, it is born. naturally, a wave of rumors. we often say that we are trying to provoke a panic. he the fact is that goebbels called such things we love propaganda yes, this is propaganda of lies. it was perfectly formed. but such a technique throws out some information that automatically generates rumors and rumours. they are not controlled
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are transmitted between people. and when there is the internet, we have another tool for spreading these rumors and, uh, this information is thrown into ordinary people. they start talking about it on bus routes in queues. maybe there are provocateurs, we don’t know about it, who start spreading these rumors, it’s not worth it, the old methods are discarded. we can put an end to this, but right after the advertisement we will talk about why the blue vest became targets for ukrainian snipers. awakening can for this we are given such tests to remember the feelings that we once had and understand what we feel now the premiere of a serial film. look after the time program, connect the acceptance of payments by qr-code in the tinkoff business application and accept payment via phone or terminal. open an account for business, but tinkoff.ru receive
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, fakes about obtaining passports of the russian federation do not subside, here is one of them, which we will now analyze . in gorlovka , donetsk region, employees of local so-called republican enterprises are forced to obtain passports of the russian federation in case of failure to comply with the requirements before march 1, 23. the workers will be laid off liberated territories the territory of the russian federation what passports should be there? i'm just wondering, yes, and who should be forced to receive, if the people there have made their choice, whose side are they on and they stayed there. they live there and work amazingly dmitry what do social networks write about passports? yes, that's another element. e from the system for the distribution of ukraine, e, lightning posted this news 68.000 views 235.000 subscribers, that is quite an impressive artillery. to spread
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a fake, in general, the right of a passport is very much messages from interesting things that i read, and the nikitovsky district was handed a passport for a participant in hostilities. vov, this was done by the head of the district administration, irina dzhelamanova. yes, this, by the way, in my opinion, it is this, uh, in social networks. uh, a lot of reposts of like comments flew by, congratulations, uh, grandfather, that he received a passport, even less of the messages related to how things are with documents, uh in the dpr, uh, the mfc is already working there, and almost 30 have opened. well, there are more than 20 new services that provide you mfc and here is my own. makeevka makeevka news. i saw a publication that it will become even easier to get passports, what is in the queue reduce from what i read. i know that many people are left without any documents at all. naturally, there at least something they
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will be asked to collect these lists. i saw and there are such reminders. how to get a passport, the russian federation, if you have no documents at all and now the question is being solved, what to have time to provide everyone with passports, people are really needed. by the way, we can now find out the operational the situation in gorlovka is in touch with us georgy medvedev war correspondent , georgy we, as always happy to welcome you in our program, are now talking about fakes that they allegedly force you to get passports, if you don’t get them, they will be fired from work, what can you say about this? discuss this information. it’s even funny, because the essence of the claim is ridiculous . the ukrainian side is presented with the fact that residents of the russian federation receive passports of the russian federation. well, here the root of the problem lies in the fact that ukraine, in principle, does not want and does not recognize, but the fact lugansk region hmm uh, they said no to their stay in ukraine back then in
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the fourteenth year and achieved their goal, they achieved that they became part of russia, uh, and uh, put up with it. they don't want to, e passportization. and in principle, all e moments with papers with documents, the transitional process is underway and a certain time has been allotted for it, that is, and people have the opportunity to calmly go to get passports, but again, this is not in an orderly manner, so to say that here without exception at gunpoint of all they are driven to the passport offices, but this is a standard ukrainian one, and the manual can be a couple of actually reporting what is happening in gorlovka now. residential areas, the private sector and social facilities. this is the primary goal for kiev schools kindergartens hospitals. thank you
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so much for helping to debunk the fakes. all the best speedy victory i would say about lugansk that the people of those blood are turned on by an absolutely amazing amazing spirit. i saw people from stakhanov, the city of pod lugansk, who got on the bus in the morning , depending on the situation, that is , they said, like the shelling took place, you can naturally go to the bus for a lecture. that's how they live and that's why. i consider it a crime. uh, if we don't really take out all those nazis to the end, but those that remain alive. let them stand trial. yes here, what are they uh, actually forced people. these are the conditions to exist for years, everything should get what it deserves. this survey will get absolutely accurate. yes, what about passports in russia there are hundreds of thousands of people who have ukrainian passports. they work here. they travel in cars with ukrainian license plates. they can enter universities and receive. in
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general, even these people are attached to public services and no one renders them any obstacles so that they live normally. therefore, this is the news, it is in in general, stupid in itself. i myself have recently been walking around moscow to the question of how we treat ukraine and how ukraine treats us. uh, i've seen a lot of cars with ukrainian plates that just sit there and nothing happens to them. and now imagine if a car with russian license plates stood somewhere, uh, in the center of kiev, so that it would be with it, but not only to the numbers, they treat everything that is russian very much. i would even say, i don't know what to call it, but appear somewhere on the front line in journalistic vest with the inscription press. it is dangerous now and we can, by the way, listen to the italian military correspondent who works in the donbass, his name is vitoria arangioni.
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a press patch or such a bright blue bulletproof vest, uh, on the front on in the trenches at the front in close proximity to uh, for the ukrainian military, this means just a target for all military personnel when they meet you as a journalist in positions, they ask take it off for your own safety, because that you are giving yourself away and this, of course, does not fit, in general, you can comments, and then we'll talk to you about the territory. it's very simple actually uh a person who is a journalist, well, a person who represents the press, is a dangerous person who can remove this information, which should, uh, does not correspond to ukrainian reality corresponds to european reality. you understand what's the matter. although all our media are jammed there, there are still social networks that no one has canceled. there are some horizontal moves. this information still slips and uh, like any information. it may depend on him being able to spread widely. and even such an iron hand
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of some kind of extremist social network cannot block this. understand what is the matter and why. it is necessary to scare them so that they do not go, in principle , journalists, as you know, they are killed not for what they have already done, but so that they do not do something, a war correspondent is in touch with us. now he is in donetsk happy to welcome in our program, probably the first question i would like to ask when i listened, here is your appeal. you speak excellent russian. why, in the first place, enit have been living in donetsk since the fifteenth year, and i am engaged in, uh, event journalism. uh, that's it, well, i was born in italy well, mother, i'm always a little russian. here, to ukraine because, in fact, well, as if they were grandparents from kiev, but i was interested in seeing it all myself. maidan himself came to ukraine to kiev when the events later realized that it was true, well, she is not there, you need to look the other
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way, the medal moved to the donbass, that's where in principle, those values, well, which, uh , were not taught to her by her grandmother, grandfather, mother. eh, so they began to be a little under pressure. yes. uh, they were like a threat in kiev. well, i decided later, through the war, i decided just everything. it is found here, look with your eyes. this is basically what i do. here i cover everything that is happening. you're a freelance journalist, uh, or you work for some western agency. uh, collaborating like a freelancer, well, very difficult. understand how to sell. uh, materials work for some media especially after the beginning of a special military operation, the editors try not to show what is happening with this one. even those that used to slip through them, as it were. yes, i have information, as it were , my own social networks, my telegram blocks are you
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youtube and through such channels already. well , i continue to do my job. here. but, since you are from italy, the italians probably forgot to ask a direct question. what is nazism? well, many, many have forgotten, many are forced to forget, they begin to rewrite history little by little, the same thing that happens, in principle, in ukraine, here are the people, as if they were under control. well, anyway it should be noted that there is a large part of the population that is open. here are my messages every day. they write to me that you live there in russia in the donbass, just tell people that not everyone adheres to the opinion of the authorities. that is, you need to share one opinion, and politicians and another opinion of the people. it's great we have questions from the experts. if you'll excuse me dmitry yes, i have a question. you said that you lead, including social networks. and who is your audience in social networks, if there are europeans, if ukrainians,
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if the russians and what kind of reaction is different reaction? what kind of messages do you get, well, i 'm working out. i speak eloquently, that is, from sadly, i chose the position, that is, i am an italian who came to the donbass to cover the events in the donbass for the italians. uh, initially it was kind of difficult, yes, to convey everything that is happening, because uh, when daring, well, on television, they don’t, uh, they show what people are going on and, well, thinking not to show, then nothing is happening began uh, more often talk about the donbass about the war what is happening in ukraine and in russia only after february 24 and many were. well , surprised that no matter how it started. uh, when i tell you that it hasn't started, it's february 24, there has been a war for several years, and there is destruction on the face. i can show here
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i have, uh, a large archive, what happened before that, when all the media are trying to prove that this is all aggression, and then this is definitely it. ukraine would break everything, uh, the rules would come every day bombed, then many are a little bit in such shock. well, information is spreading. uh, the audience is expanding. that's when someone is already talking about going on. e, even if subjectively, but people already have enough. here is the basis of motivation to go further to understand all this many. well, even for other reasons. yes, uh. hmm, they began to distrust italian politicians on television. we have more questions from the experts. yes, victoria . and tell me, please, how do you think the italians now relate to the supply of heavy tanks to e, ukraine in the zones and are the italians afraid of what it means from the third world war? i
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think that many understand that in italy so many. bass, nato is a very small contingent of american military personnel. they understand that foreign policy depends on the united states, that we will not send weapons, but what they say they do in fact. how is that? well, like all other countries, like ukraine, including italy, one must take into account that there are enough social problems. e even from the point of view of elementary economics. yes, these are great resources. you understand that these huge resources could be used for others destinations without problems of social migrants. and after the coronavirus too. here are a lot of enterprises themselves out of work, a lot of inflation, that is, all this is connected with sanctions, they hit the economy a lot, a
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lot of enterprises work with russia. and now they do not have market feedback. and those who have huge financial flows. they are directed, well, not exactly in the interests of the people of italy, but victoria to you, but thank you so much for joining today. take care of yourself and a speedy victory of all the best. very humble guy but such modest guys should be followed by an example for everyone, including us, too, especially journalists, on whom a lot really depends in this situation . thank you for coming and let me remind you that now it is our direct duty to fight the untruth that has befallen us. if any photo or video materials cause you doubts, send them to the editorial office, we will conduct our own investigation and tell you about the results. the first channel presents
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