and i think it will also sound at the end of march, when a we are expecting a sitimpin in moscow, as i already said. you wanted to say, i wanted to say that the very topic of russia's use of nuclear weapons, especially the topic of the use of tactical nuclear weapons. it was originally thrown in from the united states, it was originally thrown in as some kind of provocation, because it is clear that the use of tactical nuclear weapons is an instant situation. uh, as if demonizing russia, bringing it into a state, as if the countries that it does not comply with, no rules and accordingly, in this case it becomes a country, but at the same time in beijing and even more so in other places where they are closely monitoring the situation in the same countries in the same usa, they perfectly understand that the transition is not to a tactical level, but to strategic immediately resets the whole situation even before it starts. that is, if the e crisis

begins to develop differently than it is presented or imposed. americans, that russia suddenly decides to deliver a tactical strike there at some command post or something else, and the situation will begin develop according to, uh, the scenario of the caribbean crisis, when the rates immediately become absolute. in this case, of course, the whole american policy here that russia can somehow be pushed through, crushed, slowly blurred, it becomes ephemeral, because you already have to choose between a really full-fledged e, a nuclear conflict, as a result of which it is reset to zero, but how at least all american influence, as a state, the united states will certainly remain, but for a very long time it will have to start everything from scratch and the price of such a victory or such such a price ukraine will definitely not be satisfied with washington. i beg, i beg your pardon. i think it's important to emphasize.

that, of course, public russia officially opposes opening pandora's box and proceeding to a tactical or strategic nuclear attack, but if god forbid something like this happens, then russia's goals will not be ukraine at all, in this case not ukraine at all, this should be understood in the west , because then it would be absolutely meaningless to discuss the formal side of the matter there. well, here i am i do not fully agree with konstantin, because i proceed from the fact that the russian leadership will do everything possible not to use nuclear weapons at all either. i hope that if it is applied, you will do it under the most extreme circumstances. and what will e decide under the most extreme circumstances? i think it will depend on the extremes of these, er , circumstances, and i have a feeling that in the

general staff, it is assumed that these extreme circumstances will not occur. but that's where i have constantine solid conviction. we are firmly convinced that, on the one hand, they are trying to demonize russia, attributing to it the readiness to accept weapons, and on the other hand, they are trying to convince russia that it is in fact no longer a nuclear power. and what about the entire russian nuclear arsenal that makes russia a great power militarily equal today? well, something is there that this whole uh nuclear arsenal that it is irreconcilable, that it is in fact, but if you want, the chest to scrap metal, despite all its theoretical destructive capabilities, and it seems to me that when washington

is engaged in this kind of persuasion, the most dangerous thing is that they can convince their loved ones that since they believe that russia should behave in this way, it means that russia will behave in this way. i think this is a very dangerous misconception. and when putin said that now, if there is a further escalation, then russia, uh, russia will find the answer. and not only armored formations. i think it was. uh, not a rhetorical threat. i think it was a useful reminder that russia has arsenal which provides russia with many opportunities, and not only nuclear capabilities that have not yet been used. isn't that right, konstantin, in general, i want to say that people who do not know that russia has a nuclear potential are absolute ignoramuses. and if i am a russian

nuclear potential, uh, the potential is worthless, then we can say that in this case, any nuclear potential, including the american one , is also worthless. in fact, of course, it matters, and russia, of course, does not use today's military actions. in ukraine , we continue to cost the entire arsenal of opportunities, for example, nuclear rakitos. i am a little familiar with this topic and want to say to this question. why are we doing this? this is for another war. we do indeed. we are not going to use underwater nuclear rakitos in the fight against ukraine, there is no need for this and there is not even such a, well, some kind of practical goal. uh, on the other hand, you need to understand what russia will apply to the question. in which case, nuclear weapons. in the case of what is worthy of it or not. actually in fact, there is, firstly, the answer is in the official doctrine of the russian federation; secondly, you should never know the final answer to this question under any

circumstances. you know, i remember the movie. uh, a courtesy visit was once our soviet film about how a soviet warship is visiting an italian port for a friendship visit. and there the leftists ask the cruiser commander a question. but, if we are there, you are nephews of nuclear weapons or not, are they on your board, i will not answer this question, commander casey. you don't have to know this in order not to undertake their own provocations. here i agree with this 100%, uh, it seems to me that this is not only a matter of what should not be known. uh, from my point of view, this is something that is impossible to know, because these are such unexpected existential decisions about the use of nuclear weapons that any normal person will not want to experiment in this area and will not try to bring the enemy to the point where he will have a choice between defeat and

the use of nuclear weapons, with which i agree, that a very dangerous situation, according to which people who do not know the shores in the united states at all because they have never sniffed any gunpowder, but studied the invincibility of the american army exclusively from their own militants. they believe that they can provoke russia further, uh, by supplying weapons, increasing the quality of these weapons to infinity and so on. this is the road that leads to the grave, we go out to the advertisement and continue our conversation in just a few minutes. to the 905th anniversary of vyacheslav quiet appearance is attributed just of all the people living on earth and most of all love

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at the situation around ukraine happens to taiwan and the american effort to arm taiwan when they say they recognize taiwan as part of china well, in general, behavior in practice is in a slightly different direction when the united states is fighting china for influence in indonesia when they say that, that's just most recently that there will be some kind of new weapons and new military allied relations, informal, but in practice, with the philippines. so, when in china they look at all this, if in beijing there is a feeling that they are also facing some kind of direct threat. i mean not just with a geopolitical challenge, not just with

economic pressure. do they have the feeling that they are facing, as first russia in their situation with a real military threat. well, certainly the chairman to the inertia dolphin has repeatedly said that the chinese people on the liberation army. you should prepare for war. these are not empty words. they are, i am convinced, very seriously calculated, and of course, this is a factor that the chinese leadership. today can not be discounted unconditionally. china is preparing today for everything, and possible , including options for some kind of conflict , which is very likely, if it happens, it will happen in the south china sea. however , beijing is really facing a gigantic one today. a whole unprecedented pressure on the world markets, it's not just the countries you listed in southeast asia, it's the pacific. we know what is happening around the solomon islands. it would seem insignificant to the state, but nevertheless, it was there that

the interests of the united states and china clashed we know that this confrontation is this kind of this middle east, this is both africa and latin america in essence. uh, everywhere, where today china is quite successfully promoting its economic and political interests. it is under increasing pressure in the united states, we see, and that the trade war has not gone away, we see a huge number, and the restrictions that the united states impose and will impose with the help of its allies on high technologies on the semiconductor industry, for example for china therefore, i i think that china, of course, is very actively preparing for the mass application of sanctions similar to what russia is experiencing today , and for the possibility, and the emergence of a direct war. conflict, but how china will provoke this conflict itself. i guess it won't, because as of today, time is on china's side, time is working, of course, in beijing, the chinese economy continues to grow. china continues

to gain more and more positions around the world , primarily in terms of economics in terms of in terms of finances, in terms of the position of their currency, and certainly. china is interested in peaceful ways to unite their country and finish. this is the unification that, well, in fact, china has been divided since 1911, something like this, that is, for more than 100 years. today, china is faced with the task of uniting the country, if this is possible by peaceful means and if this kind is impossible. i think that china will go to a military conflict. here, when again in washington and in brussels they talk about why, u ukrainian army? there are real chances against russia, they say, right? russia led the mobilization. russia has big, uh, human and economic resources, but russia simply won't

have time. produce enough quality weapons to be able to resist the ukrainian offensive, which is expected at the end of spring and early summer. how would you comment on these hopes? i think that this is primarily propaganda for one simple reason, that even if we assume , uh, a fairly successful development of the scenario of this offensive. eh, everyone's great. it's clear, that it will not lead to any strategic success by the forces with which it is planned to carry out offensives at best. eh, enough serious progress. you can, uh, get out there deep enough. let me remind you that, for example, by the beginning of the end of december. uh, everything, they promised to be near melitopol to go to berdyansk and by february 23 to go to the line from which

the special military operation began in general and there were forces then, well, even more than now, so they perfectly understand what will come of it at best prolongation of the war because if you manage to move somewhere, then this will be the position from which you can try to convince russia all to the negotiating table and bring the situation, as we remember, to the situation of the ninety-first year, when saddam hussein was forced to leave kuwait to sit down at the table negotiations and sign the peace terms of the united states, but at the same time , they perfectly understand there. if you understand perfectly well that russia's military resources are not something that is not undermined or exhausted, they are not yet affected and, uh, those months that have passed they so far, they have only led to one thing: the russian army, instead of being predicted to turn into a crowd of overcoat men with machine guns who have nothing, it has turned into a huge force, having actually increased, but more than 2,5

times and it has become a kind of shock, because no one imagined that russia for many years, without dealing with mobilization kits, abandoning the topic of mobilization in many respects for the sake of the fact that we were creating some kind of professional army, as we were convinced for a very long time. she was able to mobilize to carry out and, of course, this, at least, suggests that this propaganda that ukraine will succeed. this is a repeat spell. first of all , ukraine itself will continue to bear those simply huge sacrifices that it brings in the hope that the west will help. the west will be next to him , we will still be able to see. i want to ask you, uh, what in america they call a mega-baptized is the most important question. here i am, looking at the history of previous campaigns against russia. hmm , and now, let's say, the japanese war. uh, the crimean war, even the first world war at

the beginning there were still relatively limited targets. it was possible to understand what the success of the opponents of russia meant. if they were able to achieve this success , do i think that today the situation is different, that those who would like to defeat russia, that they have much more ambitious tasks. and that, uh, they wouldn't stop at chopping off some piece of, uh, territory or cutting back on russian military capabilities. and what is their task? how are they see it yourself? in general, to deprive russia of the status of a great power and to guarantee that russia will not play an independent role in world politics, and such guarantees will include some kind of control over russian domestic politics. well, in this

matter in the west, in my opinion, and you are excellent. you know, there are optimists and pessimists. well, if you listen to the prime minister, marowetsky of poland today or yesterday, he generally expressed a desire to form a new world order in which russia will not be exhausted to the lowest level with its imperialism will be finished in his desire to divide and destroy russia, as well as in the desire of the former president oleg valencia, i have no doubts, uh but the question is, and what is she actually a porsche maybe, uh, what concerns the goals of the current uh, operation and comparisons with previous conflicts of great conflicts, then, of course, the appetite disappears while eating. and one thing is the appetite for covalents, which is to use the current situation in order to deal a mortal blow to russia, and another thing. eh, those e in the west, who believes that it doesn’t matter with all the desire to cause damage to russia, sooner or later you will have to somehow

agree on something, both of them are inseparably present and not a trace, like the holy trinity in western society in western public opinion with our side. it seems to me that it would be important, understanding the level of confrontation , to consider everything that is really happening as the patriotic war, as the patriotic war for the survival of russia, at least as an independent country, we are not talking about that there are some signs that russia is internally stable. starts to fall apart and so on these symptoms. no, as far as the opposition is concerned, for the most part. this is a noisy position in small numbers. she ended up outside of russia , she doomed herself, she emigration, as far as the internal one is concerned. there is no such prospect for the situation in russia, but god saves the turquoise, and we must, of course, understand that everything is decided during the military operation, so the concentration of efforts to achieve victory is the best guarantee against any adventurous conclusions of the russian federation both internally and externally after september 11 in

the united states of these insurance terrorist acts, and the vice president of the readings said that those who, uh, in this situation , would objectively be on the side of the terrorists. they will face the wrath of america and that facing the wrath of america is not wise to say the least. here i have a very clear feeling that those who have far-reaching plans for russia that they do not understand that in the eyes of a large majority, if not the vast majority of russians, this really getting bigger. the patriotic war and the challenge that the west poses does not see this as putin's challenge to russian power or even russian statehood, but sees it as a direct threat to the russian people to all of us and those who do not understand this. yes, they

run the risk of facing the wrath of the peoples of russia, and this is still so far. until now, history has never ended well for anyone. it was a big game , see you tomorrow on the air. hello dear viewers, this is an easy money podcast on channel one, i presenter mikhail khanov today we have just a super guest, minister of finance of the russian federation anton germanovich solonov. hello anton ivanovich good afternoon. let's get right off the bat. we are on our podcast dealing with questions. what is money? for what? why? how is everything arranged? how does it work

? you are responsible for everything. here. uh, for which the ministry of finance is very clearly responsible noticed that, probably, the ministry of finance e. in the answer for a lot of it , of course, i didn’t detect it, but for me, for what money, probably, first of all, everyone knows that there is never a lot of money. and, of course, the supply of e-tracts is always more than there are resources, but we have a lot of money . i said to carry out an allegory of the ministry of finance. the director or you are the chief accountant, neither one nor the other. we work in the ministry of finance and must perform an analytical function, because without how to properly dispose of e budgetary money, where in the first place e to send, probably, there will be no success in any case seriousness. it is you who decides, or

is there some kind of setting that determines governments. we are making an offer. we give an offer, but from the offer of mr. finance. uh. i said that a lot depends in the end. eh, the decision of the government is guided, including the position of the ministry of finance, therefore. you say, it means what to do the ministry of finance for what in general, how to say answers e you know, probably not enough, means e sectors and industries. what the ministry of finance is not responsible for, here is the financial policy. here, budget taxes are part of the monetary policy, since we, together with the central banks, are the powers of the central bank, but uh, fiscal monetary policy is linked. eh, interbudgetary relations are very strong. yes, in general. this is once again the definition of priorities. uh, without the uh positions of the treasury, since each task usually requires money. that's

why the ministry of finance is present everywhere in all the decisions that are made by the state, it can probably be formed. so your task is to allocate the budget in such a way that we observe this very financial stability. you said you have enough money. yes, how do you feel? how to understand how a person who does not have a financial economic education can understand that there is enough money, what is financial stability, financial stability in general. you know, probably, when people don't care. uh, the growth of price tags in stores is so when our people are among the news. uh, first of all they learn about the weather, and not about the dollar or to other people, we will definitely talk. that's when inflation is, uh, predictable, and when there are no such problems with obtaining wages. that's all, if we put it this way, financial stability, in fact, of course, behind this term lies a significantly huge plast e

of work, in terms of e and budget, e and debt policy and principles of financial policy, which e follows the government of the russian federation, but we, as the main the financial department gives corresponding proposals for the government, so the ministry of finance is exactly the body that is primarily responsible for the financial stability of the state. and this is our top priority. well, here's the question, by the way. how many people work together with finance 1600 people. 1.600 people. i would say that this is not a lot of people for this. it will also argue with you here, in fact, many people believe that if there are a lot of functions, then more people are needed. in fact. it's absolutely is not interconnected, because in the final analysis, people responsible for a specific issue are responsible for each direction. uh, in uh professionalism. eh, so these people don't matter.

how many subordinates will you have 100 people or 20, if you correctly formulate the tasks, if you organize the processes correctly, then you can, uh, do the same functionality with a small number of professionals, returning to stability, uh, 23 years old, and he will e more stable than 202. what do you think is the budget on par with the budget deficit of three percent? yes, as far as i it is known with them memory does not change, what can be said to calm e. uh, tv viewers, that financial stability is here inviolable even with a relative budget deficit. forecasts for the current year , we are more optimistic here, because we understand the situation we are in. the most important. our task as a government is to uh, our people live better and not feel the limitations that, uh, our country is facing. our

economy is like this, i will give a few figures, and according to estimates, for the current year, real wages should grow by 2.6%, and real incomes by two percent. this means that, despite the dynamics of inflation , incomes will grow higher higher consumer price index higher than inflation on these indicators, this is the first. secondly, we are planning such a rate, which means that even if there is a decrease in the dynamics of our economic growth, this decrease will already be much less than last year. and next year we will reach the positive qualities twenty -fourth on the twenty-fifth, then we are in this year, uh, we will practically come out of our planned uh, inflation rate. that is, our target is called yes 4%, this year, we expect between five five and five this is last year. we

finished recall 11 1/2. yes , we have one even separately 12 digits, so the most important thing is that people will live. uh, even uh, that means in the black in terms of real income. exactly this. most importantly. the main, final, indicator of the work of the government, so that people, uh, people would live better; the second, the economy is adapting and despite its decline so far. we expect a decline near the house to six percent. gdp this is an order of magnitude of error, maybe, uh, if it works out, uh, more optimistic forecasts will be an indicator of better weather, so inflation is under control, as for? i'll correct your question a little with the budget last year . we've finished. this means that this is a year with a deficit of 1.7%, 1.7 is without taking into account the deferrals that we gave our companies e on insurance premiums, and with these deferrals, since we compensated part of the expenses e

from the state budget fund, and two and three two and three percent, and this year we planned a 2% gdp budget deficit. here, so it's absolutely acceptable. e, means, an indicator of the working. e, of course, e, means a level that e in no way will e lead to financial discibilization, so , uh, in answer to your questions, the economy, a will work better than last year. uh, inflation and uh, our forecast for the dynamics of economic centers will decline, this year. once again, the figure is wrong somewhere, uh , our inflation forecast for the current year . and most importantly, we understand how to work in these conditions. we understand those points who need to concentrate resources in the first place. this is the support of people, the second

is the support of business. our task is to provide both the regions and the locals. uh , the self-government bodies have resources so that they can fulfill their tasks, so we understand and can say that despite the remote limitation that we have encountered on our part. we know how to work, well, i can't do not ask a question, since we have already moved on to the topic of sanctions and the topic of the dollar. hey, we can move on. so my youngest daughter asked me when she found out that i would talk to the finance minister. he says daddy why do we all follow the dollar and why the whole world does not follow the ruble here it all depends on the economy answering the last part of your question. why doesn't the world follow the ruble exchange rate, because, uh, the ruble zone is in uh. the scale of the world economy is not as significant, but i can not agree with the approach. why is everyone following

the dollar exchange rate? i don't know why we don't follow the dollar rate, because we are now moving to the calculation in the first place in friendly currencies. how is that? well, first of all, these are friendly countries with which we are building relations. well, first of all, first of all. why do we used to uh so much attention. dollars, uh, means, uh , because our trade was, uh, primarily in dollars. yes, in euros . e, means, uh, pounds and so on. yes, this so-called reserve free convertible currency was considered. these are the top units of account in situations. it turned out that this is a completely unreliable tool, who can take and cancel. that's why we don't have confidence in such kind of settlement-medians, it has been lost, and uh, lately , you see, we are switching to trade for trade, and in other currencies in rubles.

and, of course, from other and friendly countries this is yuan, i will give a few figures, if in the 21st year a significant part of our settlements were carried out in e-dollars, there euro and so on in e-rubles. uh, so with calculations , uh, about a third about a third, now uh in rubles and friendly currencies more than half about 55%. this number will continue to grow. that's why, when you uh, say, you can answer your daughter, of course, you know the ministry of finance is not worried about what uh, so, uh, you will lead. e dollars, we are more concerned about how the economy will develop. and how will the income-generating population grow, what kind of employment will we have? will there be unemployment? no, next speaking now.