uh, then i fell in love with truly alternative music, some kind of turning point. it happened to me after the song high and everything started. well, plus that's natural hair. i have straight lines. well, actually there is a similarity in the face. i even have my child anya , when she sees the video of avril lavigne oh, mom, she says go so there really is some kind of similarity. i know that the girl is so whole, that is, if you are engaged in creativity, you have only creativity. uh, those, there's no one at the factory that's not liked, just like how boy, well, pierskhalava was such a charming eastern man who went around kissing everyone. i know, listen, he's so he's just so wide, so hospitable, well, it's clear the guy plunged there was a period here, and which was waiting for me. i don't know if he was jealous or not,

blond with blue eyes. he wrote me letters, gave me toys, your 2005. oh, 2005 is a takeoff. this is when an unknown group from the city of samara, the brothers grim group , this happens infrequently in business, because many people in show business have reasons to be famous, that is, we, uh, do not participated in no week project anywhere. we were just simple guys who wrote songs themselves, how they fattened themselves, just such a local samara. and suddenly, all of a sudden , in 2005. here we get such an opportunity and become famous throughout the personal world, well, how did it happen? so to whom you sent the song clip to whom you just didn’t send song clips, in fact, lyuba is one wonderful moment, they hit, and lena burlakov, who at that time was already a little bit. uh, well, a little out of business. i would even say, well, that is, somehow it is coincidence is luck always understandable, but we wrote so many good songs. and that they have already begun to overfill the cup. this

is the critical one, and all this began to splash out, roughly speaking, and splash out where it is necessary at certain moments. here it is. here. this is the science of science, which was being prepared. maybe there do not know 8 years, wrote these songs. they are made there. yes, i'm in the same situation right now. i've been for 4 years now. but without a producer. it's hard on its own, sometimes. it's hard, of course, in some moments easier. well, it’s hard to organize yourself when you are without a producer and the like, for example, i’m already 14 years old. with the producer practically, that is, this is normal. here are barge haulers, who are exactly the surname that speaks. he is a two musician, he is an assistant manager, because people like yes no, not thanks to him, but no, no, he brought the maximum, he was accepted to other more important radio stations, as a rule, in order to become really popular, you had to get in russian it was necessary

to get to europe, plus it was necessary to get to muz tv. so, in general, on mtv yes, and in general, on these cars, right on their own no , they didn’t bring it there themselves, another person, alena mikhailovna, on the one hand. what did you do the material yourself? yes, of course, well, it had to be moved and shown when there was no internet. then there was no internet, and then people were needed guides who would simply deliver this material correctly, but to a wide audience this happened to us, let's say so. thanks to lena many thanks to alena mikhailova these people just helped us to do it. here and then we really just released our first album and became. well, yes, then beatlamania began for us. that's in relation to the brothers to the grimm, of course. i remember i had a hard time going through those periods. but because, uh, when you are an unknown simple guy from the samara outback. yes, and suddenly you are any

person who suddenly receives such a strong attention to his person. he is psychologically not ready for any of this and therefore had to somehow cope with this somehow and glory. god, i managed and here i sit see, well you start to think that you probably better than the rest of them such a thought would come to mind. probably you. well, yes, it begins, mania, greatness is unconditional. there you go into the dressing room. you see some of your colleagues, you look down on them. well, they didn't tell me later. people told me the history of the era of my colleague, they said, here, uh, i remember doing it. that's it, i say you can't be that, it's not me, it's not me. well , is he busy? disease? starry was yes was. yes, he said very clearly that there was no internet . now it’s easier, because he is now a barge hauler only advises. it's not easier now. i would say so. this is actually an artist, let's say so.

well, i would not say more accessible in modern show business. yes, we need that person, probably, who will tell you, it will basically show that they are not a musician. he is not a musician, but in parts, for example, here yulia max fadeev yes , once there was max, he is a musician, he is an arranger, he is a composer in the modern world , many people. for example, i have friends from a young group. good. yes, let's say, now a fashionable group. they too do everything themselves now the internet has allowed them to do everything themselves to shoot clips. if you have some kind of taste, at least it says there, a rudimentary sense of taste and zeal, then you can do everything , so you don’t need to worry about the producer. yes, you say, here i am without a producer, how is it over there? no, i didn't say that, i didn't mean anything. listen, calm down. look , i want, i wanted, that's what to say to do something not that i'm here without a producer. lord no. uh, so many years we worked together, if only

if not maxim fadeev, then perhaps no one would have known about such yulia savicheva, and even more so with some hits with such grandiose songs. well, and, of course, he is my music teacher and he still remains , we still communicate here, you understand? i just want to understand a lot myself and be able to move to a new level, roughly speaking, yes, uh, and when you are at the production center, you don’t do much at all. you don't understand a lot, you don't know the scenes and you sing, how? of course come there. come here. yes you gotta look good, uh, love yours. as a matter of fact, you don’t understand everything else to please people. this, of course, made me sad. and now for the fourth year at first it was unrealistically difficult to understand at all that now i have to understand, food, someone helps, of course, and in 2005 who, except

max, helped? still, you or the factory, of course, there lina grief putin 2005 began a new period. e with nastya maximova who wrote just if love lives in the heart, hello, how are you? here are all the hits that are still very much loved. and here she is was my music producer at the time, but max was still, uh, sort of around. yes, he advises him, for example, young guys from belarus with whom i am currently collaborating, and they are insanely talented. well, very young, there are a lot of things that they don’t understand, and i just tell them specifically what needs to be done and redone. ah. well, in general, in part yes, like a burlakov. and why exactly they ask for milk, you don’t remember, in general, fucking,

seriously, of course, in l, here it is with layout and that’s it. this is a tip 20 years later. today we are talking about 2005. my name is konstantin mikhailov, my guest. yulia savicheva and konstantin burdaev. i like that you communicate. i generally sit like this and watch. i just introduced you to such a domino, the old one said how he clapped, but with eyelashes. well, it so happened it so happened that, well, yes , of course, we needed some kind of chart, a breaking hit, what is it called? the eyelashes song became such a song that, yes, i noticed, here it is so bright, it first appeared later, yes, there is only one album. yes yes the same album. so the eyelashes appeared , clapped and it all began. and who wrote? well , we have always been composers and authors of our songs.

yes, i listen, what happened to boris, like everything is fine, he vaughn at some certain point in time decided that he had outgrown the brothers grim group , so he decided . here he is doing this and a long time ago he left for the underground, and i have been leading the brothers grim groups for many years. i'm well everyone chooses his own path. yes, yes, he is muscovites now or somewhere far away. yul you didn't try to explore the trend and pierce your ass in 2005 because everyone did it. oh, no. it pissed me off so much. listen , i liked how i came back now. it's all fashion is cyclical. these are all on the ears there are earrings on the lips. yes, i liked this a lot. by the way, as a man, i can say, no, i liked it more than just girls, then they dressed more sexy. in

my mind, in my mind, what's because they had neither italy at the trousers returned, well , now there are options, here is a high landing, but, but the low one has returned again now again seriously. now everything is back again. here are those 2003 2005, the skirts were mini-skirts, which were more like a train of some sort , i also came back i could look like in 2003-2003 . now you are fashionable. it is you now fashion trends follow the fashion trends most people, they are still . this is how fashion has gone now. this is the eighties, here are hoodies, there are cucumbers. it's just the nineties. by the way, this

is such a phenomenon or a phenomenon, whatever. that's uh that people like to be nostalgic for uh, 20 years go by. here, uh, 20 years pass, yes, and people are nostalgic. here is the cycle. she is she. look at this, at the same time they began, all sorts of fashionable slr cameras, and everyone decided that he was a photographer, and everyone, but bought a camera, but did not buy to take pictures. bought a fail bought a drive the same. yes, like the wife is still lying in the slr camera, that is, a large one. yes, she will buy it too many girls, then, uh, wanted to do some kind of creativity. the easiest way for me was to buy a dslr and take pictures. and, by the way, i took a lot of pictures there once i took pictures. and you yes, she was a fan of the brothers grimm, she did not immediately become my wife. so she went to concerts, photographed me, and then she became my wife. here is such a story. here are such yes, i married him to bow. and you married married a fan,

it turns out your husband is my husband, and an alternative musician, initially i was still at the factory i heard his group where he sings. you can say this, he married a fan, everything is clear. so, perhaps, even so, too, to interpret. maybe so i heard all this action of his voice. and there they had such a very lyrical song that, surprisingly , among all this, all this bacchanalia, it touched me so much. i realized that, well, this is such a beautiful soul person, and i really want to get to know him. as if he is real, as if, well, i left the factory. she immediately called him because they didn't let me go to their concert. my dad says what kind of bird music is this. though, though, he's a rock musician himself. in general, i

did not expect from him. well, uh, well, i had to call myself, i was not afraid of anything. everyone is so surprised. and why like herself? well, what is it? in general, i'm a simple girl, picked up the phone , called, let's meet, otherwise we're on tour. with the factory your then a bunch of tours, generally just endless. it was summer, as i remember now, but before that, of course, i said goodbye to my previous molo. smoke, who wrote to me at the factory was still, probably not. i just realized that he was absolutely not my person, because he was all so correct. changed a lot , spoiled it dramatically, well, yes, a girl of hooligans, yulechka became just an alternative like that. here's a break. well, that's all, and we immediately met somehow and away we go, listen, do you know that this year a selfie of what

2005 was invented? well, this, in my opinion, paris hilton britney spears took a picture of herself for the first time. yes, it's all lies. in fact, the selfie was invented a long time ago back in the time of the king of peas, when people took pictures so correctly of real cameras, change of talents such a photo where the hand is visible and it is clear that the person himself had such pictures that the person himself was not. but no, earlier they urgently did it in a different way, earlier there was this one, as it were, a report back and now they inserted a camera. they wound him up and arrested him. and here's a selfie. and exactly. by the way, well, wait , it was also, in my opinion, where the wolf itself is there, that's who invented it. well, wait a trend setter listen, let's move on to the films, what we got out there this year. listen to me at all when ask about zero. i usually answer. i don't remember zero. why? well, because

it was rarely in birches. own kinoksik, well, i was direct. i was intoxicated with the events that took place in my life and there was a movie to watch then. in general, i also had tours with the factory, then my tours began. i will name a couple of films. you will now understand that they still did not pass by. well, first of all, brokeback mountain oh god, god forgive me. yes, i tried to look, but my my fiber of my soul can not say how a person passed director's, where they tried us with all sorts of films, and the most alternative version of akira, kurasana tried us with japanese cinema and spanish cinema. and i know that sometimes you need to watch movies at the end and there will be an easter egg at the end. and in the end, you will understand that it was not in vain that these 3 hours of torment, when you know how the japanese climb the mountain, then another hour and a half back here. i watched it to the end, and then i didn’t know that there was a subpoena and

their uh-huh, but then i understood why all this was a viperqua, by the way, about the ideas, and then there were popular film movies and world kusturica just know why? by the way, we didn’t just insert the prokusturits for no reason. initially, in kusturica’s song there was no mention at all of thick, it was called, she’s a wet chicken. and there, that is, and you, after kusturica's film, there was no such phrase. so, uh, i remember, leni came up to us, said, listen, well, the song is cool, and let's put on something fashionable, so that the locals, this is the local beau monde, so that it gets through. let's put here's the kusturis well with chicken rhymes. i say let's go they put it in because it rhymes well and then such a story was interesting to me then the guys told the music stores that worked in samara such a hefty man enters, because the people. in the general mass, of course, i did not know such a kusturica, this is still a slightly sophisticated movie. yes, even from chaos, and he enters such a hefty man. listen, let me tinker about. and i don't know

what kusturica is. well, the song is cool. i think you were. he is also a hefty bearded world, and the world of maratovich knows that in russia just likes to eat, that is, barge haulers came up with the idea of ​​inserting kusturits after all. yes, he said that he was some kind of very hard-hitting movie. and from time to time he gave us some quotes from the movie. and then the kusturis came. yes, in the same year , christopher nolan's completely chic remake of batman came out with christian bale, the chic christian bell, who, after the machinist, where he weighed 40 kg there. he brought himself to exhaustion in seven months, was swung up to batman and in my opinion. this is the best batman of all times, the peoples of the peasants were nulanovsky. do you remember, i remember this, where he was very thin. this is a family, i definitely looked, yes, a maniac is not a little bit, but here he is batman, he is cool. here is the atmosphere in

a year. she's very creepy, that is, not comic-like like tim burton's she is very straight. well, everything is straight for the truth, very cool. in the same year came out, another version of charlie's pride prejudice chocolate factory. this year our relatives. the kids watched it charlie's chocolate factory. didn't already know it by heart with the joke of this film, there all the children died. i understand this. it’s good that i didn’t look at the children’s audience clearly, absolutely the images are so bright, but i brought out the sweet tooth. yes, i have a sweet tooth. of course, i have cakes. doing it myself would like a factory. it is necessary then to throw show business, e music and generally engage in. only this has already hinted to me that it is not necessary to get it when it is half better at once. bones

bird's milk, mostly i like to make mousse cakes. they are quite complex, long, but incredibly tender and tasty . do you remember the chronicles of narnia, and there the snow looked strange. yes i didn’t understand, but match point with scarlett johant looks like vendetta is a chic film, who are you or portman - it’s the vachovsky brothers that became the domestic film market e didn’t leave the state councilor released two whole films about the era of stefandorin. this is a state councilor with oleg smaller. he is in the role of fandorin and with nikita mikhalkov and the turkish gambit. uh-huh i watched house with a hunchback, the ninth mouth came out, by the way, the films master and margarita series mini-series is when it came out yes, yes, yes master and margarita with abdulov svashvili, just that

amazing 2005 2006 year. i remember watching it back in star wars, episode 3 revenge of the sith. wow, then i stopped watching star wars. nothing, nothing, they were good. here are the very ones, because then some kind of farce already went on, by the way, about music. i'm now also raising the archives. in 2005, there was some kind of r&b boom, and fifty-cent shot, by the way, from his candy show. yes, then it was very powerful on the wave, by the way, these rb uh artists appeared, and then hip-hop wasn’t as uh comprehensive as it is here a little later became, well, then it was still popular, again, rock music in professional music, because these are the same artists, for example, with whom we performed at maxim, this and france, ferdinand , this and the kaiser are clean, these are the british, all

this, many here these are bands that are almost unheard of now. yes, but these groups were on the wave then. so we remember a lot then, writing our songs, arranging them, we adopted a lot, tried to adopt from them. well, that is, they learned from them. but then it was still popular, yes, then they were going to the stadium gorillas, by the way, organized, in my opinion, this is daimonalburn. blair soloist, came up with a cartoon project such yes, yes, yes. confession on the dance floor, and from our dima bilan you should have been there. uh, zhanna friske, by the way, began a solo career and so on, and i recall the episode of zhanna friske e in the context of the program uh about africa on channel one, there was a reality show program called the heart of africa or the last hero. they

were supposed to live in a place with a tribe led by domogarov, in my opinion, and there was friske , just ira tonneva was there and many, many others. uh, you weren’t invited people to this one here, the guests were on a project in africa south africa , but i don’t remember what it’s called specifically, probably it was sleeping, eating there with them for 3 days on earth, to get caught. but it was tough in the last hero and in the heart of africa, i still can’t get my head around it, like the project of channel one, like how all artists should have a bus, a separate trailer. they really all slept on the floor there, ate their knees for a second , everything was really banned. we saw the ocean of life, then i remember. were such emotions, i did not understand. it's scary if, on the other hand, it's so delicious, but now, in principle,

our wonderful podcast is coming to an end, although, of course, he doesn't want to remember with you. yes, almost everything. well , it seems to me that it is important that you managed to remember, if just something important from your memories of 2005 remained uncovered. well, 2005 is probably the brightest year, probably, in my youth. here, it was still my youth, then this one, this one , this one happened, the popularization of our creativity is such explosive. i would even say, that is, we ceased to be a local samara group, became an all-russian group, and so on. well, here it is, yes. it was encouraging, for sure. here. well, that's where it started. my new life is exactly 2005, and i have in 2005 a. it turns out that the second wind opened. what artist yulia savicheva because 2003 it was a factory and high with ships. eh, this is

the first breath when they would recognize me, now the country has fallen in love. but, the second wind began with a song, if love lives in the heart from the tv series don't be born beautiful, and then it just bombed, and then all these hits went on just nastya maximova about whom i told you, and then already in 2006 in 2007 i was going to stage the presentation of this album. here. er, yes, yes, we were invited too. yes, we were sitting somewhere on the arbat somewhere in a casino. yes, we were sitting, and there was just a presentation, where in the clip of a small car. yes, yes, two small cars, this is one of my favorite clips. in general, well, the third wind cakes. what is the third e cake, third wind, i already went with the song moscow-vladivostok after that period with nastya maksimova no, this is already the tenth. well,

i also have a banana. then e in the tenth year. uh, max wrote moscow-vladivostok, and that's it, and the third wind started. and now for the fourth am. write in the comments. i really have everything so bad now in my musical career that i switched to cakes nearby. she would you know i did. you know the story about the bottom queen, who retired and started growing tomatoes. so this is actually cake. this will indeed be the biggest truth. of course, of course, the points will not be the same, you hear, and now, and now the fourth wind, it means that it began when i continued my journey on my own without a production center and love will find the first successful song. and then there is the album, which was released not so long ago , the elements, which included songs. well, uh, yellow taxi. well, in general, if you remember what

successful releases before that were separate. yes , this is everest. this is the real one standing here. song, and weather forecasters. eh, well, in general, some really successful stories that now continue to happen are still too early. i’m talking in 60 seconds until yulia is 60. today we are remembering 2005. my guests are yuri savicheva and konstantin burdaev the brothers grimm, and maybe, for the time being, after all. julia did not switch to cakes until i 60 julia sing something like that. oh, of course. don't forget yours. me you are not

alone forever together where are we?

high and quiet sings to the sky behind the star. the sky behind the star is high silent don't forget the flight.

in honor of my song, my forever with you. at night where are you and i? i don't know.

how high? a quiet flight to the sky as a star high

quiet sings it's easy. my name is larisa guzeeva this is a podcast of letters. today we will talk about ivan sergeevich turgenev at my place. historian yegor

yakovlev thank you for coming. thank you. here , after all, it is interesting after a while, uh , in general, to talk about the scale of such a person as, for example, a fantastic writer of genius, da turgenev a and in connection with this. well, reading, yes, here is his biography, plunging in this, what thoughts just do not come. that's me to an ordinary person after all. i am not a historian. i'm just a woman. it seems to me that if i had been born to such parents as ivan sergeevich, i would have been a murderous maniac. well, if you talk about who he was, mama, papa is already terrible, really. sergeevich had a very difficult childhood, a very destructive family, and moreover, not in the first generation? because, uh, his mother, varvara petrovna, was also born into a destructive family; her father did not beat her very much. mother.

she, too, was a cruel woman. well, so it turned out that she inherited a very large inheritance and married for love, but her husband did not love her. it was a fine, cavalry guard. a very handsome man, gollant. uh, very poor and money works wonders, and he married for convenience. he married by calculation, and they do not love their wife constantly cheated on her. this, of course, left its imprint on family relationships. then it was all in front of the son of little vanya, of course, in front of the son and not one had three sons, unfortunately, the youngest son died early on epilepsy, and ivan sergeevich down. i watched all this and was, in fact, a victim of these relationships and a victim of the character of a despotic, tyrannical ointment, which was very cruel towards the serfs, and even towards their children. sorry to keep. ah, souls, and slaves. the same. yes, uh,

from here ivan sergeevich will endure the impressions that he later described in his notes to the hunt and so. i want to say that if our brilliant writers did not have such a life . such uh, nightmares in their lives. uh, could they have become articles, but i'm interested in another ivan sergeevich sang all his life. ah, female beauty. yes, the nobility of purity seemed. yes , everything should be, on the contrary, all his heroines should be evil golden women. uh, but just horrible bloody bars. no. well, he has one bloody bar, we remember the textbook story of mumu, then this is just an image created based on the communication of his own mother. but partly in life there were other women, and he loved many of them, and he loved one of them all his life, also influenced his work. yes, we are history

when he loved the girl very much, and the girl became papa's mistress. yes, this story, which formed the basis of the famous story first love. there was a neighbor about the turgenevs. and of course, our dearly beautiful young girl, whom turgenev also fell in love with. she played with him, but in the end reciprocated no answered a. then he found out that she was the beloved of his father, who, among other things , cheated on madushka with her, and it so happened that shakhovskaya, by the way, a gifted woman poetess, lived a very short tragic life. a total of 251 years. and this is another injury that left an imprint on the character of ivan sergeevich, he killed a very small strangler from the body of serfs in front of the boy. and it’s not like i’m wanting to spark his soul, and i didn’t kill it, and right now, look , some kind of disappointment has weakly ceased, you see, how the standards are. all of them squirmed, of course, turgenev

was a man with a very problematic childhood with a problematic youth. and it seems to me that these experiences left a serious imprint on his attitude towards women. here there are other neva women, what you are talking about is beautiful and pure and determined heroines of his work. and there are other men who are not talked about at school, these are not decisive men who cannot decide in any way, but overcome some difficulty, overcome an obstacle and achieve. happiness. it is their happiness to be classical henpecked in this happiness, in fact, no one, but the exact one, well, he didn’t derive the formula of happiness, but ivan sergeevich found happiness, joy in being the slave of his beloved. it seems to me not quite because, but one such experience he had was an experience. yes, they burned right to this and in theory. yes, it seems to me that ivan sergeevich was simply afraid of the relationship, he got married and was afraid

of responsibility in this marriage. and this fear. well, of course, it stemmed from the unhappy marriage of the parents and this unhappy childhood. well, look, i could afford to redeem the serf, because i fell in love with the parents of the child from serf and yes, there the story was more complicated, because uh, of course, u ivan sergeevich with all his was born into a landowning family, and he was also a serf, and yes, he had an affair with avdotya ermolaevna ivanova, who was his mother's dressmaker. and this novel was noticed by my mother, and my mother was very jealous. by the way, to all the girls of both her eldest sons, and there will be a scandal, ivan sergeevich left her mother and only after, uh, 7 years. he found out after eight even years. he found out that he had a daughter. well , i didn't know that, and that's only because she does it. rubbish, yes, lose that unfortunate one.

not only was they dishonored, but they were practically thrown out into the street and taken away from the child. well, how is it, perhaps she was a cruel woman, she scoffed, scoffed and encouraged others to do the same. here is turgenev. actually it was identified only for one simple reason. she was terribly similar to him, if you compare the photos of the adults of polina yes, and in russia she was called pelags. here is this girl. she really is very similar to sergeevich. that's just it. arriving to her mother in 1850 on business. i'll tell you what i found. here guess that my daughter, 8 years old, is strikingly similar to me, i can’t describe to you the feeling that her appearance caused me. imagine that i'm not even remembering the features of her mother's face , i'm not exaggerating at all. whence such a resemblance, in which there should have been

, e, imprinted mutual love, looking at this poor little creature. i felt my obligations towards her and i will fulfill them. she will never know poverty. i will arrange her life. as best as possible. can you imagine? what a painful experience this meeting produced everything for me that i changed my mind about everything that came into my head. oh god. oh my god, now i feel like i would adore a child, whose face? reminds me of the features of my beloved mother. this similarity what is this similarity? what a mockery, this is to whom he wrote a letter, this letter was written, with which he was already then. closely familiar, but here 's what's interesting, but in this letter he talks about the mother of this girl, she is alive, she is alive, she still works as a dressmaker. turgenev writes that he wanted to visit her, but didn't decide. he didn't even remember her face 8 years had passed. he no longer remembers. it was her face that was slept on, and he writes that in his interpretation, uh, it

looks like. so the mother really wanted to get rid of her daughter, but we don't really know because, uh, the other side couldn't tell us their story. so why did she then, when already, uh, took her daughter away. i ardui raised her, and her mother asked ivan sergeevich yes to meet her daughter. he didn't allow it. well, there was no communication. yes, it is not clear how the game would have told women. she is now to the vidos. yes but mine feelings for her are something. what the world never knew than what never existed. and that it never can. to repeat with the very minute i saw her for the first time is worth the fateful minute. i belonged to her all the way a dog belongs to its master. i could no longer live anywhere, where she did not live, i broke away at once from everything dear to me from the motherland itself, set off after this woman in german fairy tales.