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and he writes that in his interpretation , er, it looks like the mother really wanted to get rid of her daughter, but we don’t know, because er, the second country could not tell us its story. so why did she then, uh, when already uh, she took her daughter or ardui raised her, and her mother asked ivan sergeevich yes, a meeting with her daughter. he didn't allow it. well, there was no communication. yes, it is not clear how this woman would have told , now she was not a city to the viad, but my feelings for her are something. what the world never knew than what never existed. and that can never be repeated with that very minute, as i saw it for the first time, the story of a fateful moment. i belonged to her all the way a dog belongs to its owner. i already live a little nowhere, wherever she did not live, i broke away at once from everything dear to me from the motherland itself, the trail of this woman in german fairy tales set off. knights often fall into
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a similar stupor. i couldn't take my eyes off her face. i could not hear enough of her speeches to stop admiring her every movement. i'm right and i breathed something after her, what was it was a flash, of course, a bright one unfamiliar in 1843, and he is 25, she is 22, and he is still far from the ivan sergeevich turgenev whom we know. he has hardly written anything from his great books yet, and she is already a star, and her loud fame began in russia , she came here on tour with her husband, whom he had just married for 20 years. yes, 20 years older than her, she is a singer and an amazing woman. everyone described it as very ugly or the film is cranial, then said that well, it was impossible look full face. only in profile, yes, and even in textbooks e literature. i remember this marvelous profile of pauline viardot amazing only very beautiful.
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yes, she was not pretty, but she was slender and even thin, she had wonderful black hair , intelligent velvety eyes and a matte complexion, her mouth was large and ugly, but as soon as she began to sing, and the shortcomings of her face and speech no, she was divinely inspired, being such a beautiful, powerful actress that the theater trembled with applause, flowers. they poured onto the stage and in this enthusiastic noise, the queen of the stage was hiding behind the falling curtain. yes, it was love at first sight. and they introduced him as a passionate hunter and a bad poet, then he leaves for europe and is next to this family, and he will stay for many years and sometime later, andre maurois is known as a french writer. biographer. turgenev will be told that if dima were set before turgenev to become the greatest writer. throughout the history of literature, but
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never see polina virtuous, nor family, i am determined to either stop being a writer and be a family janitor. right. he will choose the second. well, i think it's for the red word. look, well, her husband was fine with that kind of neighborhood. uh, his wife. i understand that he was aware of their uh, intimate relationship. let's start with the fact that we do not know, in general, whether there were these intimate relationships? there is, uh, no clear evidence of this, they were born and everything was calculated exactly after nine months there. uh, another son was born, of course, they say, because the yellow press and rumors and gossip. they were and so on. well , maybe they were. and perhaps not, but this connection she was, after all, primarily spiritual. it seems to me that they were very, very interesting with each other. because polina ivan sergeevich were also people
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of high culture. these were people who had many very common interests. and but this mutual interest, and the ability to enjoy intellectually with each other, and became the key to the strength of their relationship, as it seems to me, i can’t say that i over cynical, well, i don’t believe in such relationships, and without intimacy, without this passion. what could be such a depth of feelings, in fact , which led to the fact that he entrusted her, and sent his finances through his daughter, yes, for upbringing, and she accepted, and an illegal daughter. it's not only her passion for money that you had with turgen, but they don't have it with her husband, it's not quite like that after all. uh, we have a stereotype that ivan sergeevich was very rich. why not very rich? well , for example, uh sell the village, the estate some estate and spend it on a viord
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to decorate it. uh, some of her pranks there. why not? it could be a stream, when my mother died before the death of her mother, for these 7 years in this mother was alive ivan sergeevich was not rich. he depended on his mother and there were cases when, on the contrary, polina and her husband narrowed money to ivan sergeevich, not vice versa. so here i would have made his lawyer over there here, but really. here is what he trusts her with his daughter. why do they just trust him asking her for advice on what to do with daughter, because everyone knows that she was illegitimately born, that she was discovered by the foundation, and it is pauline viardov who proposes this way out and bring her daughter to france, because in france no one knows this, she will be with us as a pupil and no one will france look. and this really made it possible. girls will receive a relatively normal upbringing on formal grounds , and in france turgenev recognizes her, that is
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, she will bear the name of polina turgeneva, which will allow her to enter, then into a very it would seem that a good marriage, by social standards, would not marry an entrepreneur, the owner of a glass factory, hi, but all the same , daddy sucked money, still wrote and complained, and they came and so on. in general, her life did not work out either. my daughter has developed from infancy. here it is more correct that, on the one hand, she became a frenchwoman. she did not speak russian. she was such a classic frenchwoman in terms of upbringing, education, worldview, and so on, but at the same time she dragged everything from russia here are the problems. yeah, uh, where she grew up. but the problem is that her relationship with polina did not work out, or maybe once again . it just seemed that it was not right for polina to pay little attention to her, damn it, her property grew, so some of them sent her to an educational institution through them.
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my mother has taken the little girl back to her, oh, whom i wrote to you on sunday, this saddens me, because her position here, of course, is disgusting, they make her something like a servant and i want to make her a princess. well so are you understand me, i want her to be free, and she will be, well, noble. of course not, he made her free. it was he who provided her with this advantageous marriage. he helped her during in france sent her. yes, she got a great education, and uh, he made his grandchildren fall in love and helped them and helped them to the very end. well, there's some serious trouble, my dear girl. i must tell you frankly that i was not very pleased with you during my last stay in france. i discovered several quite serious shortcomings. you are touchy , conceited, stubborn and secretive. you don't like to be told the truth and easily turn away from those people
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you should especially love as soon as these people stop spoiling you. you are jealous, you are not trusting. you love to communicate, only with people whom you consider below yourself, your pride becomes. it seems to be savage to touchy even towards me, who has never done anything to you that could have you. would hurt listen, well coming through such humiliations, of course, she will assert herself on those who are below her, everyone wants revenge, you understand? in general, i don't like it. by the way, i'm not happy with these letters. turgenev's daughter. you are touchy, you are conceited. listen, it was you who made her like that, so you go to the mirror , accuse yourself of tearing off your mother to give grandmothers, idiots to this cruelest, then someone else's aunt to a foreign country, who i don't know what happened there with closed doors. and this, by the way, is interesting. here he is writing to her. you are touchy and conceited. here on who did she offend? we're talking about
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resentment here. no. listen, ivan sergeevich was insulted, whom and you already didn’t love your mother and didn’t finish it, and so on, because , maybe, he wanted her to kiss his hands because he was the same to her. he says, i did not do anything bad to you, except good, and you instead. to thank me endlessly to thank your benefactors. you are still offended by them, if they don’t endlessly pamper and praise you, he still stands up for pauline, because he stayed. what's wrong with your daughter affectionate does not kiss my hands for everything. oh, it's so complicated, true. this is a podcast of letters. i am larisa guzeeva and the historian yegor yakovlev is visiting me, these are about love. do you believe that viardot and loved turgenev yes, of course, of course, she loved him, and ivan sergeyevich loved polina ivan sergeyevich loved polyps,
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of course, this is out loud. they say that ivan sergeevich was a russian spy no sergeevich well, in full word. spy. of course not. uh, the fact is that ivan sergeevich turgenev was really a propagandist of russian culture in europe and eh, sometimes desperately even defended the glory of russian literature. e in disputes with foreigners. well, for example, such a case with or out is kerrin. it was kirei who told him that there is no russian literature, but a turgenev gentleman, despite all your satirical talent. we have a uh hmm writer who got you out in every way. came, who is it? this is gogol - answered. turgenev yes, i don’t know this, he was in prison for something. yes yes. uh, not for long, though only a month. he was imprisoned. the fact is that in 1852, when nikolai vasilyevich gogol died ivan sergeevich wrote a heartfelt obituary in which
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he called gogol a great man. this censorship in st. petersburg banned. but turgenev still managed to push through. this is a text in moscow, uh, and yes , he was arrested as a freethinker. uh, at first he spent a month in prison, and then he was sent into exile for 2 years on his estate. that's how pushkin was mikhailov there, so turgenev was spassky and here, by the way, there was an interesting story, because just at that time he arrived in russia and turgenev is one of the few very decisive for his actions. he fled, it was impossible to leave his estate, but he fled and met from polina, although this threatened him. there were so many noble young ladies with some serious people around who, well, with great pleasure, they married ivan sergeevich turgenev, who says, i propagandized all russian russian culture and russian literature in this way. for some reason, i jumped that he bowed to the west. no. no, here he is, and he fell in love with this gypsy, as her
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little one called yes. uh, married, and all sorts of prospects, so something in her was something was not in the russians. uh, it's great for women to live, well, i fell in love and fell in love in the end, that is, it's not that she was not russian the thing is that she was here and he didn't feel very good. and he couldn't get away from her. here is the underlying reason. do you really think that there was no between them. and here's the very charisomatic love. eh, the intimacy of these passions. e that it was all at the level of the soul of intellect. no, maybe there was, i don’t know for sure, i admit that it’s possible that he was a bachelor to me and he never married because this love for viardot. he is correct through life 40 years 40 is 43 years old. i think so, no matter how he got married for a completely different reason. no. i think that
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he did not marry for the simple reason that he was afraid of marriage. well, in general, he did not aspire to this somewhat. he approached the projectile, he had several attempts. he was torn with polina vr well, he came to russia, he liked some girls, there was flirting. uh, and he had such a, that is, a platonic affair with maria nikolaevna tolstaya, the sister of lev nikolaevich, and this very little shot. yes, not quite we are for this, but yes. this complicated their relationship. eh, but what happened there there was a story, as with polina verdunu, but in the miniature of the seas nikolaevna was married to her distant relative thick valerian. and and uh, the relationship in this marriage was also destructive, not only did the spouses not love each other. valerian had a fortress gorim. uh, that is, he cheated on his wife literally from right to left. this is a fortress. at its worst, izvoda, uh, valerian was outwardly very ugly. turgenev called him. the eighth village henry he was very
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fat. well, of course, mariy was very hard with such a husband. well, how turgenev behaves, he is friends, and that's exactly how it is in the wiardou family. he is friends with her husband and communicates with his wife and with her husband and walks with his wife and with her husband and with his wife. well, he starts flirting with maria and they like each other and others do not write as friends that it seems, lovers about their feelings are such russians, she gets divorced, but uh, i think that some biographers of turgen make you too sharpen her divorce, because she didn’t go to turgenev, but then she went to the monastery when they turned out. uh, when ivan sergeevich didn’t take it, you understand, these are completely different judges. here you are men, you talk like that. for me, this is an absolute tragedy. she is getting divorced. he won't marry her. she goes to a convent. what is a monastery? yes, this is the end. eh, earthly life was not quite the way it was, so, firstly, ivan sergeevich definitely did not promise anything, and he could not have promised it. absolutely not in it
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spirit, and i repeat that she did not go to him, but from her husband, and a rather long period passed between mary's departure , maria's divorce and her departure to the monastery, and between that time he had an affair with another man. she went to europe and met a noble viscount there, uh, from whom she gave birth to an illegitimate daughter, and only after this man, from whom she gave birth to an illegitimate daughter, left her. here it is completely. she left sergeevich still nothing to do with it, although, uh, leo nikolayevich tolstoy noticed this flirting. and he wrote that turgenevskaya can you behave correctly? it really was like that. but how does this relate to the same story as with the vr-house? it seems to me that he felt comfortable with tolstoy when there is a woman. yes, she is married, she has such a stable position. he flirts with her and talks to her. well, he does not bear any responsibility, and here with polina a, many men love married women, because there is no responsibility. and
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you don't owe anyone anything. you have love. do you have freedom of relationship don't worry, because she'll never take it. these are families, because yes there is a fear of losing a husband and so on, that is, the energy of a man. so arrange say that e men. yes, everything is very, very comfortable with married ladies as long as they are not going to get a divorce, right? well, judging by the fact that turgenev never did. yes , viardot's proposal, with all the greater love. and yet this is the west, there were freer customs. uh, divorces were allowed. why not? i don't think he wanted it. neither did she have enough. i think there was such an agreement about everyone with everyone and her soup u u is embarrassing. and when he lost his mother and estate, and he got to dispose of everything. yes, but i'm a little too hasty.
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e, he said that he sold himself a small estate and went to buy himself, pamper her beloved, and so on, then there was also a lot of money put on her daughter, yes , which, for example, i don’t think that she directly spent and that’s all, yes, everyone it was beneficial. well, even then no one interfered, nor the mother could interfere. yes, not her old husband and that was it. ours. well, here we must bear in mind, we will not hide. uh, western people are more pragmatic than e bars. no , i don't think it's just about profit. i think that these relationships, they kind of, they became closer, then a little further away, but in general there was some kind of connection . so she kept him. she held him, because he was also interesting to her, and she was very interesting to him. here turgenev writes in the sixties an unknown such, small well-known novel of smoke, he is considered a creative failure. although not deserved, in my opinion.
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there are two heroes litvinov and attempts. uh, both they are in love with a married woman, and she keeps them both. well, well, potugin is a slave who sits next to her and is ready to fulfill her any order, plus even. well, here's a potential lover, even if she's just, well, a potential lover to bring to her. and when did litvinov give him such an offer? being such a slave is done, he breaks through decisively and leaves for russia . the action takes place in a bathhouse. and so, it seems to me that turgenev was torn between these two scenarios, but the potugin scenario was closer and more comfortable for him, and therefore also keep a few men on a leash, uh, at the feet. e hmm yes, there were many of these very ones, but i’m here in what unique uniqueness , of course, there were many novels, and there composers and the artist schaefer and badensky,
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princes always surrounded her with a lot of men, but ivan sergeevich became truly close and a member of the family, they adored him children. and damn it was, yes, but it’s enough to read the correspondence. let's say put it, yes, and called ideas here's one of the daughters of vr up to how she writes they adored. they could not pronounce his last name and called him. not turgenev from turglin turglin, that's how they loved him very much. here he was his own for them, like a kind uncle, such and it seems to me that when they died, and turgenev spends returning in a few months. after that, there were even, of course, very elderly people. but still, there was light in these relations. yes, no woman will refuse the love of such a man. and, of course, she needed this love the greatest writer. e could speak beautifully and was not ashamed with him,
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on the contrary, count to appear somewhere and when at your feet, and hmm yes, a great russian writer. he then published. why not on this one and others flocked, of course, who will let go of yourself? in the elegance of the mind, the beauty of the young turgenev had a lot of attraction, of course. she liked it. i also liked his love for her, but she did not hurt him, he had no power over her. she did not suffer for him, did not suffer, did not shed that blood of the heart that love requires. well, yes, when turgenev died, she did not leave her room for 3 days. when her husband died, she was the next day. uh, gathered students and taught our taught music. yes, classes have already begun. this is the case when he loved e, and she, let's say , let herself be loved, but at the same time, e and the allied side. i also think there was a strong connection. just uh, she left
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less sources about it. yes, she destroyed, by the way, her letters. turgenev , yes. here we basically have ivan sergeevich's letters to her, and that's all, having, and here's what she could redeem. well, he lived, so to speak, she was practically pumped in her soul and turgenev all her fortune and left she had the opportunity to do so. that's why she edited the relationship history. and perhaps we can say that. but perhaps she eliminated something that could compromise her in some way. in general, i think at that time yes, but in russia europe was already naturally enlightened, this is the relationship to russia in which there were slaves. well serf slavery is the same slavery, or maybe marriages were considered then. here we are already furious from the alliance. no, maybe it was unusual. maybe they would turn away from her if she wouldn’t have such a thing, it couldn’t be one thing slaves and quite another aristocrats there were a lot of such marriages and of course, uh and
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a lot of russian girls married europeans from good families, and from aristocratic and just noble on the other hand to her, foreigners already on russian girls came to russia on and made a career there, that is, here is the highest layer, he was international and you know what's the matter. here is the position of turgenev, it was unique , you see. turgenev was european even world a star, because he had fans across the ocean, and, uh, tolstoy had not yet been dostoevsky and was not close. and turgenev was super his becoming a doctor of law at oxford university. how to write for the hunter's notes, which played a huge role in the abolition of serfdom? i mean, this european superstar is a friend of the flagbear, there are other famous french writers, so of course not. eh, that wouldn't be an obstacle to marriage. yes, there were barriers to marriage. i think it's mutual dislike.
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well, plus they just didn't have enough time, because viardou is dead. e a few months before the death of turgen. he was already terribly ill with cancer. eh, we had it incorrectly set. well, i'm not a doctor. i can't say about it. well, i don’t really understand this one, maybe i’m from another in general, well, i’m looking at it, as it were, and judging. uh, mona loved him, but at the same time gave birth to children from her husband, and not one here during this period. yeah, first of all, uh, she had to comply. uh, so to speak, decency, yes, here is maria nikolaevna tolstaya, she did not love her husband exactly, but she also gave birth to children from him and you never know families in which some beloved men and women give birth to children. yes, this is in general here, it seems to me, nothing is clear no , despite the fact that it is quite obvious not all children, uh,
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families are wirth from louis ardu. yes, there are serious issues. it can be children and gono there, as if the children of a sherfer, yes, others, but the question is that these could be turgenev's children of you. but somehow no, besides him, come on, such rumors could theoretically circulate, but we definitely don’t we know it doesn't seem to work out very well. yes, not very, it turns out, although , of course, turgenev loved them all. so, that is, he treated them as if they were his own, but if not his own children, well, his nephew , tell me, did the descendants remain alive, you don’t know, no, no, they didn’t, because yes, the daughter had a very tragic fate, and her husband would go bankrupt husband is broke. and so, just this happened in the early eighties, when turgenev was already ill. the daughter of her husband left , went with the children to switzerland, there were two children, jeanne and georges, and she asked for more and more greater father of money. yes, she asked for money for
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maintenance and apparently there were some scandals of the vr giant because she was mentioned of this and correspondence. e, does not die by hand, and he left his fortune along the line, and then the husband of e. polinety begins, uh, the process against pauline viardot, trying to challenge this will , unsuccessfully, because all the legal subtleties are observed. nevertheless, there was also such a posthumous scandal that was very ugly. so a very poor life further, uh, polynet was supported by her eldest daughter, who she gave music lessons she taught, so it’s amazing e didn’t have children, jeanne didn’t really have any descendants of turgenev , the chairman turned to me with tears in the hands of those 30,000 francs that were supposed to replenish the capital belonging to her children. at first i refused with the firmness of foreseeing that these 30,000 would be swallowed up by the same
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insatiable abyss. yes, the insatiable abyss is her husband's business, which at that moment began to suffer serious losses. he constantly wanted money, uh, it didn’t work out, he went broke. and turgenev did not want to give, because he understood that this was doomed. yes, it will doom his daughter, but here is poverty, but all exhortations were in vain. and in the end. she simply left her husband herself, but she herself had to live on something. of course, it is ugly and an extreme tragic story. this whole tragedy, which began in previous generations. e families. now here is some kind of hereditary horn they were pursued by hereditary tragic hands. well , if there wasn’t this hereditary tragic rock, there wouldn’t be so many e and positive and the negative moments in life that overwhelmed him, yes, which tormented his soul , weren’t beautiful in the works that remained after him. true, of course,
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the most such recharge. well, of course, any writer cannot live without emotions, because without impressions, and turgenev's personal life, it was very brightly reflected in his works. and here we are not by chance with you. we have already talked, and the other several girls are beautiful , decisive and charming, courageous and light forces who cannot cope with those. uh, problems with the obstacles that get in their way. thank you very interesting. i have many questions with pleasure. thanks a lot. my name is larisa guzeeva this is a podcast of letters, and the historian yegor yakovlev was my guest . these new buildings are about three years old, i wonder
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how are you? novoselov managed to make friends. actually in chats, communication everything happens. for example, we have a parking lot , guests come and ask to put a place on the car, because you can see for yourself, there are a lot of cars, but we try to help out few parking lots. where are you going there are places, yes, put something there temporarily, please, the main thing is to follow the rules of the chat, for example, they can block for advertising. and the message is chirped non-stop. how to solve this problem? set a notification so that it does not brynka or ring at night. this is self-care and property. and when a conflict loomed in the general chat due to the fact that messages were pouring in about everything and they immediately decided to create for those who want to chat about repairs, the children of these thematic groups. here they will tell you which coffee bakery tastes better with a choice of school or to attach an old couch to the main chat for pressing problems. neighbor cats, fish and cars have already been saved here from evacuation. together with svetlana, we will conduct
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an experiment at the height of the working day, we ask for food for the cat in the chat after 5 minutes , a neighbor on the landing responded. rufina svetlana also came to her aid more than once with the cats. secondly, i also had to sit with my children, because i went to work, and the children used to return. and if they do not have keys, then, accordingly, all this picked them up and fed them in about the same way. friendship began with svetlana from another neighbor yulia helps each other for more than one year more family relations than neighborly yes, we have already become more related. if in big cities. you may not even know your neighbor in the forest on the landing in the villages, in principle, they live in front of everyone ; they don’t need chats; they know who to help give a cow and dig a garden. tatyana gennadievna galina anatolyevna has been friends for 48 years. now the planting season is here. we talked to each other, who has what
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seeds who will plant something, who have more flowers only tomato, eggplant. in general, everyone exchanges. i love this, i love that, and sometimes a neighbor is a friend and a psychologist. can replace him so we always communicate. as we study, let's remember some events when a close person is ready to come to the rescue , agree somehow calmer, so take care of your neighbors. dear friends, today we will sew an original cardigan from a paladin scarf with a fringe. its length is 180 cm and its width is 75. we will release this ball on the base cardigan, but we’ll make the sleeves from a patch of wool, we’ll still need strips of leather for decoration or the most common, suitable decorative letter, fold the scarf in half.
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everything is very simple, we will not make any complex patterns and long constructions of patterns, but we take the most ordinary favorite voluminous t-shirt and apply it to the fold based on it, and we will straighten the edge. it is very important to leave a small seam allowance between the t-shirt and the fold line, about 1 cm , circle the neck of the back of the hanger. armholes and slightly narrow the sides. and cut out the base, taking into account seam allowances. we divide the shelf in half. we make out the neck of the shelf. this is how
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the base of our cardigan looks like. we connect the shoulder and side seams and sew them on a typewriter , we process all the edges on an overlock. we add the details of the sleeves, fold them in half and under the machine and fasten the sleeves to the base of the edge
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of the neckline and shelves, we process it with braid. now, if the job, by the way, is to sew such cardigans, scarves could be a lot. wow , dirty girl, what a wash, but now there is no time for that. hello , this is rubbish. you look at the road
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clean. now it's not snowing. not even gopa, yes, and now the roads are clean and could be wiped in the morning. well, as far as i got, you have an administrative fine of 500 rubles. either a warning, if you have not previously been involved in the administrative yes, the minimum penalty. and what, maybe more, yes, maybe, but just the applicant. so listen, but look at my car. she is all clean. yes, that's the intent of the driver to cover up the license plate so that the camera does not record it. well, yes. well, yes. so, so what, we have as far as the trickster got, here the administrative fine is already 5,000 rubles. or deprivation of rights, from a month to three will not. yes, it's already annoying. yes, you can stay and pedestrians. if
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you never have a car, then check at least the cleanliness of the room before you start moving, and then every morning of yours will definitely be kind. three beams fastened together a snow blower is ready for any car, can you carry it? that is, this old device used to be attached to a tractor welded from a channel. well, i have, respectively, from the beam valery smirnov and from the village of dedovichi and the pskov region , this device clears the sharp corner of the road all winter, cuts into the snow and, accordingly , scatters large blockages on the sides, of course, it will not clear it, but fresh snow will easily scatter the most important thing not to start. uh, i mean, if you can't drive a car, then this thing won't help. or maybe just a tractor. well, why is it that only the tractor mikhail from arseniy of his primorsky territory
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attached an automatic winch to his off-road vehicle, like a lift, the drawing was not born using the tykov method everything was done, as if the barrel was found by several alterations, then the corner is not right, then something else. strengthen the scraper a little more and any snowdrift cleans. the main thing is to make a blade, and there at least eduard shaimukhametov from tatarstan installs it on a bicycle and welded it to an old bicycle. bucket made from a gas cylinder. of course it will be possible in the future to weld here, the lever. that is, how to raise to make a spring to facilitate. in words, it turned out to be easier than in reality, it seems that the snow is rowing, but how much power does it take to pedal? it's hard all the same, but you want to check no? here you need a robot, like anton's votchitsa you are from
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the city of luza, kirov region, his invention is a dream, you don’t need to lift weights outside press the button and operate the levers like a small tractor. he even has headlights, and an assistant rakes high snowdrifts in no time.

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