[000:00:00;00] the circulation was 800,000 copies and the entire domestic ministry of internal affairs would not have had the strength to seize his eskios. and besides, in the film e hmm , the minister of health of the ussr yevgeny chazov appears on the evening air of the central television and tells that e aids of painful teams of prostitutes. eh, as these phenomena do not exist in our country, therefore we cannot have a back either. this is also absolute nonsense chaz was a serious cardiologist of the kremlin hospital, and quite a big specialist in his field , and already in 88 he could not speak on the air television that prostitution drug addiction is not ours. uh, specialists and peculiarities first of all, because the story interdevochka about prostitution was published in the 1988th year already in the january

issue of the neva magazine, but what about? about drug trafficking, the first article about this was in the news in the summer of 1986. and this is all hmm perfect frank fiction. in addition, in the series, u, the head physician of the hospital, who is caught in the fact that u has infected children. uh, quiet, whisper. mm to a kalmyk doctor, and askar's magnificent roles. ilyasova says that they will always be to blame for these terrible authorities, kalmyk. uh, hmm immediately remembers being deported uh, uh. childhood, together with their relatives, along with the entire kalmyk people, and let's face it. eh, translating from russian into russian, but it sounds like a person who finally dismissed the medical staff. uh, completely blames the supreme power for everything.

instead of you all the satanic nurses who refused, well, just not able to sterilize the syringe and and. in general, able in this way, not only sleep, but also all kinds of hepatitis can be transferred. he blames the terrible comrade stalin for everything, who is a million years ago. ena ruined his life, and thus turned him into a gouging terrible party leader of kalmykia e. he incites with all his might. uh, hmm lumpen proletariat nah, hospital with infected children. all. this , too, of course, is utter nonsense; they don’t say that zakharov, the then party of kalmykia, was a quite an average build man, and not that disgusting fat a pig, as the artist kolyn is trying to portray him, but, as for the main direction , it just so happened that, hmm, serious

epidemics are the most effective in the best way. it is totalitarian regimes that manage in this way, and not democratic ones, but serious restrictions on freedoms, which are always necessary in such a case, uh, they succeed much better, uh , many authors remember, the sixties, when the soviet union managed to root out the smallpox epidemic. uh, just after the new year's sixtieth was held blanket vaccination of all muscovites were completely stopped. uh, any contacts and departures from moscow, including those that have already been returned, having taken off from the soviet airspace, the liner going to paris, you can imagine how the people flying there would react now, and how much it would be in general, perhaps in the sixtieth . it was, perhaps, quite exactly the same, namely the soviet power. uh, crushed the most serious

and regularly flashing. anthrax cholera epidemics of the same smallpox, uh, after all uh, domestic epidemiology deserves the kindest words. if someone sometimes, when paying attention to the old pre-soviet press, he will definitely find messages in the southern regions. about a new outbreak of cholera and daily reports from om, how many people died, and the soviet government stopped it completely and for this it is separate. thank you. in all other respects, it must be admitted that the picture is extremely fascinating a and oscar ilyasov and nikita efremov deserve the best praise efremov just received the golden eagle for this role hmm finally uh hmm absolute uh, raptures of gratitude, and deserves the manner of producer tsekalo in all his films to undress his zero the main actress, and

in this, elizabeth shakira looked extremely wonderful, especially on the balcony overlooking the krasnopresnenskaya skyscraper. here i am to the producer and directors. uh, just mastering the picture, sergey trofimov and evgeny stychkin put one cameraman another artist. here they tried their hand at directing , in many ways it turned out to be a claim only to the screenwriting. e skewed with you is still a podcast of grief by fire and i denis burned down, reviewing the leading domestic tv series of our time, the picture thirteenth clinical hmm about another medical institution of a rather mysterious type, and it so happened that the surgeon kirill e, performing an operation, suddenly discovered that he was being attacked by spiders. and he clearly understood that this was due to

the cancer diagnosed in him. uh, he felt that his days were numbered and went to the last medical procedures to the relevant authorities, but fortunately for him, along with spiders and cancer, the demons attacked him , so they hospitalized him not in the usual cancer clinic, and to hospital number 13, where , along with all sorts of other khoomis , demons are expelled from people, it just so happened that this particular hospital. eh, marak won in the lung, but since in the doctor, and together with cancer and spiders, uh, there was eh, with one of the most fierce and dangerous devils. uh according to the classification nd-1. uh, that hospital management. i decided not to let him out, leave him under supervision and simply adapt him to internal operations and care for patients who

have completely different demons. it so happened that in the domestic cultural tradition, serious authors of genius, uh, take up the issues of the relationship between angels and demons and their uh, some kind of internal convention on the section uh, spheres of activity, and at the moment of the most serious changes in the country to the moment of the formation of some new statehood and so on in particular. and fyodor mikhailovich dostoevsky devoted all his work to this very issue at the time of russia's transition from the feudal capitalist way of life. actually, that’s why he became, uh, super-relic u world classic, because in europe it’s simply not was equal to the great author, who was able to persuade him about, but a new and obviously vicious system that openly goes against the scripture from the positions of this

scripture, and balzac created his own human comedy, but each of his novels, nevertheless, individually lost to the one what dostoevsky wrote, uh, flaber was more guided by everyday stories about skaruwald was a brilliant stylist, but still, uh, dedicated his village strictly, uh, to the aristocracy and did not dig so deeply. e. hmm soon all charles deakins was killed by excessive sentimentality anyway. eh, they were not equal to dostoevsky in any way. and if someone were equal, then of course, in the best western traditions of fyodor mikhailovich, they would announce to the epins some of their own great author. well, they didn’t have such a person, and the next e, an appeal to the topic of the e battle of good and evil happened with us during the country’s transition from agrarian to industrial, and mikhail ivanovich bulgakov e

wrote the master and margarita from 1928 to 1940 and hmm in this way he examined appreciated what takes place in the established soviet country with its completely new socialist regime. ah, the next appeal to the topic happened already at the turn of the century, and hmm , the writer dear to my heart, sergey lukyanenko, wrote his night watch, and the first channel, dear to my heart, staged his picture on it, and i must pay tribute to the authors. the series of the thirteenth clinical they clearly have the most frank references towards their forerunners, and all the demons in the picture are classified by the code nd e, and this code is not explained in any way, but

attentive people, of course, understand that this is hello to the night watch of sergei lukyanenko or director timur bekmambetov uh, as for, and the current situation we are seeing is completely explicit break uh russian civilization with the decadent western and it's time to talk about that again , uh, how will russian demons decide things with russian angels in the film, the acting forces are better occupied, and victoria isakova plays the head of the department of hospital leaders, igor vladimir steklov, who is always joyfully see on the screen hmm partner. e kozlovsky to be performed by paulina andreeva and in the finale, her demon is pulled out with them and the hero in love is forced to commit suicide to investigate this is an obvious reincarnation for her. the myth of the barf who went to hell for his beloved and a clear springboard for

the next season. it should be noted that the script of this series and the breakthroughs of the function were performed by the second e, the best script of modern serial production. andrey zolotarev. he used to do trigger uh did for bondarchuk uh, attraction and invasion. remember this name is absolutely impossible. i spoke again before recording the specials. finally he wrote. uh , the super-successful film ice mm and with director klimov kazinsky, who made the thirteenth clinical film before that, they made uh, a series beside himself about how evgeny stychkin is inside. ah, they swear, fight and copulate ghosts of people who died, uh, through the fault or with the participation of the protagonist, but it's clear that this, of course, is not light. schizophrenia, but understand the mental breakdowns of uh people, uh, in

some internal e, demons and angels. uh, andrei zolotarev is the biggest master on today's screen. it just so happened that at the release of the film night watch. ah, met. he was with incredible fury, er, a wonderful critic of the now deceased tatyana muscovite. uh, the critic was she was devout, and she said a very harsh thing. she said who told them that someone would negotiate with them. only hardcore only with a cross and a prayer to wet the demons. what is the light worth a-a clear feeling that russia today chose this particular direction, there are no agreements, there can be no business with any demons. and some conciliatory positions of the author of the series are thirteenth. clinical a is a bit out of line with the national

discus, and in that sense, uh, it is to be expected that next season they teach at the request of the populace, because the guys are fantastic talented, i believe in them. the podcast is still with you, burn with fire and its presenter denis gorelov is reviewing. uh, the current most relevant tv series of our time, the next picture, which us in the distribution of the film the negotiator uh, the theme of the negotiators. uh, a year ago, it seems that the mediator series has already been fully worked out. uh, according to the scenario of one of the best, again, mm authors of uh, hmm psycho-psychological psychiatric detectives. and on kozlovaya and everyone remembers andrey burkovsky. in this role , he was very, very good, but the topic turned out to be, apparently, not exhaustive, but the main idea

of ​​the negotiator. as you can already see from the finale , it becomes that all terrorist attacks with the capture of hostages in our country, e, are carried out by the chekists themselves in order to show their e, their omnipotence and their skills, etc. and so on. uh, in addition, both of them work with the security officers some kind of terrible, and the godfathers who resurrected from the nineties and the beginning of the zero years, dividing among themselves. uh, ritual funeral business and similar to gophers because of the famous picture, which we haven’t heard about them for a long time, but they still exist, and then the hero is an fsb negotiator, uh, retired because in one of the tractors. he managed to save his son, but his daughter died there, and he can’t cope with the hardest the choice he had to uh, make u

pretty. drinks. well, in general, understandable and understandable. and at the same time, uh, new seizures continue everywhere, and with intensity, and absolutely in the nineties, which cannot but raise questions from the modern public. but nora is completely with our emigrants if a laudatory text about a negotiator appears on the network. uh, most often this is a review of a person who left russia and preserved in his mind. uh, that country. uh, how she was at the time of his departure dismounting and fleeing a hmm internal the viewer, uh, liked the picture, frankly speaking , less, but the idea of ​​the series belongs. the screenwriting journalists, the curator of the poetess yulia idlis, probably shouldn’t talk about him at all, but carefully talk, but

the producers tsekalo and mishin are very serious people and know how. uh, quite a controversial idea to sell beautifully. and in this they certainly resemble the cinema of the old soviet era. uh, when people took a completely crazy idea. for example, uh, the work brigade is waiving the bonus or uh. russian radio operator with two baby bundles under the arm. uh, he fools the gestapo for a long time and runs away from them. in the very center of berlin or stirlitz bred a de-lera, telling him that the suitcase was with a russian radio operator. he took the exclusivity of motives completely, not knowing that there was terrible nonsense in him, but nevertheless, and these idiots. and the plots later fell into the hands of the most serious professional of our cinema, an outstanding director, firstly, an amazing artist, and secondly, a very strong dialogist. thirdly, what

made the viewer periodically not only to believe in what is happening, but a little distracted from the original stupidity, and the ideas and e of the central central direction of the central intrigue. and the same thing happens from the series the negotiator , tsekalo takes on the role of an ideologist of the same one of our two best screenwriters oleg molochko, already mentioned in today's podcast, and trusts the production to be very serious. to the master of staging craft at the rubek, as for the performers of the main roles , the negotiator becomes absolutely wonderful and by charisma. e, kirill pirogov and moreover, also paired with vadim mishukov is also a very serious performer, and at one time , a long time ago, er, back in the previous century

, i scolded in the newspaper today the first role of pirogov in the picture of georgy nikolaevich daneli eagle and tails. uh, georgy nikolaevich then took the great prose, and one of our very own, our greatest prose writers. e, vladimir semyonovich makanan. e on the first breath, and the story of the e siberian guy is strong and real fun. e, able to achieve everything in life, but, at that moment in the mid-nineties, georgy nikolayevich wanted to reformat history under the e-stable domestic slender intellectual. e on the steering wheel, er serious and ferocious alpha male, he took a rather slender one. well, a very good artist, kirill pirogov, and he was completely innocent of the fact that he

was not a healthy siberian man, blood and milk. uh. well, i think, as far as i remember, uh, i went over his performance as well. although he did what the director instructed him to do, so i will never miss once again to praise. eh, mr. pirogov when he deserves it, and in this picture he deserves it, uh, the film rides entirely on his uh, charisma, his opinions and quite attractive uh, the appearance of a woman who has become the subject of contention between two e fsb negotiators pirogov and mishukov plays would be without a hundred. flask gra a-a, which many veterans of the soviet spectator business. we saw her at the age of 12. now it is quite pleasant

to look at her as an adult. uh in general. this is a very exciting movie, if, of course, constantly discounts the fact that e harsh godfathers dividing the funeral business among themselves remained in russia in the distant past. well, many initial directions. uh, the podcast with you still deserves to be corrected with you , the podcast of grief by fire and i denis gorelov reviewing the leading domestic tv series of our time. and lion's love, and a movie about our uh tenth graders graduates living in the city of kerch, uh, kerch is not indicated in the film by its own name,

but many of its residents recognize the shooting, it was there, and hmm, kerch tenth graders attended to, uh, very serious pressing topical issues. was dantes hmm a person of non-traditional sexual orientation , another word naturally changed there, but uh, let's just say now we can't use it , and this question captured the tenth graders very much. they discussed this topic , it was clear that in a bad way, and dantes not all. doubts this person is, but there was a conversation that he was in good too, but the worried classmates. uh, somewhere in kerch they got a couple of dueling pistols and decided to solve their problems with the help of an old dueling code. and uh, some e noble ideas about honor about

how an aristocratic person should behave in modern conditions, but it should be clearly noted that the main and most important problem, and modern youth in russia in the world is the only one , and the point is that the world needs far fewer rock musicians , tv movie stars, than tens of millions of today's youth apply for these places. and usually, in general, more or less the previous generation s e s this truth was forced by the media but the consumer society, uh, in every possible way inspired the young generations that u money is a woman, glory is waiting for them literally around the corner, so a collision with reality causes them completely inhuman trauma and willingness to decide. uh , all things in radical ways, including with the help of dueling pistols, and in the middle

in the picture, the hero captures the school radio center and starts talking about the fact that he wanted to fish all his life, and the children in the rye in the image and likeness of salinger's hollin, caulfield, and this explains quite a lot in the background of the authors. yes, and the hero, too, uh, the fact is that his rather tedious and gloomy counters with adults are ferocious. at least a little explained by the ferocity of the then regimes in the ussr the united states over the catcher in the rye came out already in the fifty-first year in the midst of harmony, and was translated by us and published 10 years later in the sixty first in the midst of khrushchevism and, uh, to many readers. uh. in general, uh, the mood is cold caulfield. uh hmm the enemy of the authorities, the parents of adults and the whole world.

they were close enough. e with cold coffee. for a whole three generations of our bores , they rushed about like decommissioned sacks, but since then , adults, children, both in europe and in russia , have been completely kissed in the ass, but they are categorically looking for. how to heal all their possible injuries and it’s even impossible to imagine. how much and where you need to get money, and the cars of responsive villagers in order to only their majesties forgave civilization for its imperfection. ah, about the film, in general , it might not even be worth talking about, but the directors. e, trams and lvova found very exciting boys to fulfill their ideas, the girls turned out worse, but hmm , the company of the black spring, just absolutely brilliant a constant artist and producers.

uh, the famous four oloyans, zuglinsky went in a row, and gleb kalyuzhny has long established himself as a rather interesting outstanding performer, and, all the more, uh, the artists worked on the costume, uh, he's wearing his hood over his coat. just perfectly reminiscent of, uh, raznochinets students of the beginning of the century before last, a and b. in general, it looks very good and just corresponds to the main intentions. material at a constant volume, i'm here with him is artyom kite again. and valentina tsiferov two oleg chugunov three nikita kologrivy 4. uh, i never mentioned the first two, but in general a mention. they deserve it. and as for chugunov , he had a very good role in the kidney series, kolymanovy appears on the screen quite

often and in general, people are already remembered, at least in the tv series two hills. but this is a beautiful, uh, five. uh, solves all his, uh, problems and questions. and hmm unfortunately, for some reason they can even understand why they constantly talk about shit, and the author clearly wants to bring down the noble paphos, which is quite inappropriate for modern kerch, and they use constant fecal details for this, and on the one hand this is more or less, but understandable, but at some point strains another thing, that uh want to put up with it. uh, just because, uh, the main character is clearly full of all sorts of protest moods his father, uh, who works in the forehead in a local hotel is also full of protest

moods and stray, uh, a lab in a local tavern. also all of himself is full of great protest, and people of such a warehouse, they will talk a lot about shit. er, that's how it's been seen. this is their point. and it just so happens that, uh, all four series, uh, that we are reviewing. hmm, is quite watchable, and very, uh, interesting and it doesn’t happen with every series, but three of them are based on rather controversial ideas that are not very relevant to modern reality, and only the series about demons, the thirteenth clinical, seems to be written off from the nature of demons. we all know they are reproduced by the screenwriter, goldsmith and director kozinsky exactly as we saw them with these demons and in general we have ideas about them. it was

a podcast of grief by fire and its host denis gorelov a until the next meetings until the next serials. dear friends, at night, you can see from our disposition that we are absolutely starting our nightly conversation with you. with an incredible guest, firstly, lena kiper and i are again an incredible producer with roman pocket, an incredible media manager and ceo of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives, but all the attention of the guests, of course, our guest today is a composer producer, a talented person and a people's artist of the russian federation igor igorevich matvienko

igorevich. good night. hello long-awaited, probably, rewarding. i didn't expect it at all, maybe it happens. yes, and when you don’t expect it, you’ll show you on uh what you want, you’re not waiting for something, that’s when the people’s artist was already waiting, kai wasn’t expecting a difference. well, folks already. that is, as it were, well. no, if 20 years ago, probably, yes, that is, when i still wanted to be glory, i would often calmly be beautiful 60 plus you are already so philosophical about all processes igorievich, but

along with receiving the title of people's artist. you also flew a little bit into the meme trends there. with a glass, so here's a new reality for you, which can become famous not only for talent, good question. i didn't think, at first, it happened absolutely by accident natively what ours loves very much, how do there was the internet. uh, it was. i was sitting on the edge and handed out champagne to everyone. uh, and a , so to speak, vladimir vladimirovich approached and everyone retreated. and i had to go somewhere far behind him. well, i think, well, i got up from here, well, from behind, and suddenly vladimir vladimirovich glasses and so he saw me, and he says so. i understand that this is good. i had a piece of paper with a layout. i reeled it up, which means resourcefulness. yes, i say, i'm sorry, it wasn't

enough, and that's when it started. here, as it were , a fun game. there was show business there was a stage, and here at some point we are all surprised to find that there is stage and media and show business and architecture and fashion, and that there is nothing there. everything turned out to be a creative industry. uh-huh, but in the end. and what has essentially changed, because when you say, the creative industry says, well, they came up with another nonsense some creative industry, but in fact, something has changed. from the moment when it was all show business, as just an industry in itself, and when it all merged into one. this is the inscription creative industry. and in general , how much can the concept of show business culture be divided into creative. faster creativity, they are now joint. what do you think a lot of questions. i understand, so i'll draw

a parallel. all my life i have been musical since childhood, you can see everything, yes, anglicism has become a musical producer leader. then i became an artistic director. e via then e groups began to appear there already, well, anyway, the musical director of the group or the artistic director of the group, and then someone heard from there. that's the word producer. nobody understood what it was. and i have a document. that's where i formalized my boon. first. uh, a production center, and no one even knew how it was written in russian and it was written by producers with two s's. and this was some 80 some year. that is, the essence has not changed, i remained musical and artistic director, but now at some point i began to be called a producer, now we are moving on to the creative industries,

of course, the essence has not changed. anyway, that's all. we are all part of the universe of this culture. it was i who just quoted him from the song of the same name by the ivanushki international group. yes, the great group was created in the eightieth year. yes, i think that it was, perhaps, even the very first production center, because i don’t even know why i created it. well, we listened too. here are some there, these same labels are some buzzwords, and we didn't understand what it was, but uh, well, that's the first practical center was, respectively, the first group lube was already recorded there well, well. the first production center appears young producer igor matvienko then not yet igorevich and igor matvey i matvey uh looks around and should probably find some traces of something else. well, besides the fact that there is

some sort of a producer center now, as it is customary for the industry to say, what it was, if there were no labels , there was no, well, a recording studio, an artistic director of a group, what was at that moment, emptiness and then igor igorevich, uh, created everything else, or how do i like it? the fact is that if you go back, uh, to communism , show business worked in full show business, you start there from the sixties, but more than the seventies, these are all these are all the people there, i don't know, plotkin weakling. uh, stas namin uh, also now beloved by everyone, vladimir vladimirovich kiselev, that's all. there were figures, uh, that the production corps of the soviet union yes, absolutely. that is , it was these producers in such and musical sense, that is, there were producers, such as conditionally slobodkin. he himself is a musician, and

a classical one, that is, he perfectly understood, uh, in arrangements, there and so on. all of them are uh, like them, and we are now switching our toggle switch from creativity. here's how she talks to, uh, radio stations. they knew it all, that is, they promoted their product in the form of these vias of theirs and it was absolute show business. well, just on the word there, uh, the eighties and nineties are all uh, it broke down and went a little differently. and how much do they then these great people were old, they were people in the dawn, so to speak, or or there was a young producer. igor matvienko and say already. comrades, at that time i was a simple musician with a salary of seven to seven rubles for a concert, as it were, which i did not even dream of. uh, then they called me. although i would have been the musical

director of the krasnodar philharmonic hall , hello song, but my salary was seven seven rubles 50 kopecks. for the concert, however, the concert per month was 30 40. i wanted to ask the side income. no, it wasn't, then okay, that's it it was official, and everything was official, everything was official under the agreements, usually the income of all the guys. here, for example, maz and popov well, as it were, which, uh, they perfectly packaged musical instruments. they had channels for the supply of these combo guitars, there and so on, but this is already an industry, as it were, and so on, the red words swindlers were called, which no one rewound. even. if , for example, many rewind, of course, yes. define, uh can be without a loan word. producer in general role uh, she was, that is, how you are now say she was and still is. it's just that it's much easier now, but not everyone understands what is behind this and what a huge work is behind it, and why e producers

, the author igor matvienko received such an award , he no longer expects such an award, but i'm sure that twenty-year-olds who dream of where -they come much earlier, they start dreaming about some kind of regalia, about some results , they don’t know what is behind it and what kind of work has been behind it all the years. it's so rhetorical yes, yes, two absolutely live producers in studios. uh, so, uh, what is the producer doing now asked. well, let's say there's a difference, uh, between a producer. eh, the sample there, well, let's say 1992 and the sample 2023. i think the difference is only in the instruments, that is, the creative part has remained exactly the same. the producer must be the conductor of the orchestra, the music producer. that is, he should, if you are a studio, uh, conditional person, such as bakhti. i consider genius

absolutely. uh, a music producer who's straight. well, he sings himself and still managed to rarely combine. uh, managed to do it there in 3 years just there on the air of azerbaijani stars. well, with hookah rap, but , nevertheless, all mali their own johnny there and so on , not only for azerbaijan yes, and for all of russia for the cis there was some year there a year or two ago. i looked at half of the artists. uh, those that bakhti produced. that is, he understands music. in general, we made a difference between a producer, and then, uh, clarified a music producer. this is because twice, because there is, uh, like at the time the conditional one spitz. i mean, he didn't understand anything about music, but uh, he had other talents. and now it's very similar, for example, uh hmm for sure. talented person. this is yosya

prigogine. here, he is not a music producer, but here is his engine, which he can take, uh, the product and move, that is, one spitz. uh, working day spitz. the kingdom of heaven began around 8:00 am. e 8:00 am. he took phones. i don't remember which model. and he began to call the editors on the radio there, this is a penetrating force. yes, i can't do that. how do you do it? now, i don't know, they never even do. i don't. i am i always have an approach all the time. it did something, okay, it's still uh, a glorious conviction will come through. here it works, because this is the launch of bent ivanushki has been working for 30 years. well, it means, it means they work, it means, well, there are different approaches

, you can do it, you can do anything. well, nevertheless. uh, a producer has to be able to do everything, it's very difficult. uh, profession. i am amazed all the time. these are now in every university in general, even in economics, there is a department of the producer. i don't understand how this can be taught. well, how is it? producing in gnesinka you deserved it, that, i just remembered, i was very young. that 's quite, completely and uh, i led the program the night on the titanic where ivanushki first came with you. uh-huh. and i interviewed you very cool. i was just starting to wear journalists and studied, and there will be amazing now music from the program wait for me , yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, years have passed and we met for a year. yes, indeed, there is a whole retrospective. and these are the secrets that you