[000:00:00;00] more than once, those connected with russia in 2000 thirteenth year, moscow repeatedly expressed concern about what was happening in ukraine with the maidan, and especially began to express concern in 2014 after the overthrow of yanukovych, and that the ukrainian radical nationalists would not move crimea and seize. there, the power, having removed the lawful according to ukrainian laws, was elected by the supreme council of the soviets. the supreme council was called yes , the supreme council is now called the state council, then the supreme power was a russian warning. it was predictable ignored. and russia did what it did. well, then for many years, and russia has been saying that it is necessary

to comply with the minsk agreements, that it is necessary to seek a negotiated solution on this basis, and that russia does not want ukraine to join nato and pump weapons into ukraine. the last time these demands were put forward was in december 2021 . it was ignored in washington brussels refused to negotiate with russia on this basis and then russia did what it did and started a special military operation. here, knowing the whole story, how to say that russia is too slave and not ready to stand up for itself. well, it will simply say that this shows complete and ignorance or a deliberate distortion of what is happening. well, let's fast forward to china again now, as i understand it, there will be a visit to moscow now and

the main chinese diplomat in america so well, they say so, although this has not been officially announced. and uh, although it's not officially announced, but that's what people in the know say so, yes, even if it's defined there. well, in general, in the second half of february this should be. that is, it is not so, that is, it is not so far away. well, yes, it’s already coming, the second half of february, what do you think you will bring to moscow with what moods he will come and if there are any opportunities, but if you don’t break through serious shifts of further types in russian-chinese cooperation, but it’s obvious that this will be the preparation of sidenkin's visit, because although it has not been officially announced, but, but, there have also been some leaks that it will take place this year.

perhaps e pretty soon here today, by the way, it was published, but the interview of the deputy minister of foreign affairs is rudanese, but who is engaged in it. now, in the chinese direction, it is said there, and here they ask if the date is a specific visit, and he says that for now, here, well, as it were, what, a sideways will be announced in due time, when an agreement is reached, but that the most, as it were, confirms that such a visit will be simply unknown for the time being. here you are, to your credit. always talked. eh, if possible. so to put it with cautious optimism about the prospects russian chinese cooperation, especially military cooperation. and i'm focusing. i emphasize your caution and , unlike some in moscow, you were in no hurry

to predict that china, as it were, would rush to russia and say, brother, accept our help, support, but in no way and targeted. now here, especially after the latest scandal in us-china relations. what, maybe, well, some desire of china to show russia that if china is not ready to fight with russia and is not ready to give arms, then it is ready to help russia really put put pressure. alexander sanctions, well, you know, the chinese position is rather pragmatic, it is not easy , which means, on the one hand, as konstantin fyodorovich rightly said here , china in principle believes that they will, well, overtake, say. so america will be caught up, maybe

even overtaken and come to the forefront in the world. e as a result of peaceful coexistence, therefore, all kinds of excessive tension in the world, from their point of view, is not beneficial to them. and if i strengthen some countries or some events, so to speak exacerbate this tension. this is also not particularly beneficial for them, because it distracts them from other countries. e from cooperation with china china maybe, for example, in the case of russia , fall under some kind of secondary sanctions. and how would it slow down, yes, from their point of view , it will slow down their such a direct movement, er, to win in a peaceful competition on the other side. and of course, russia china is extremely important, firstly, china does not have so many friendly countries. well, there north korea , let's say pakistan and russia from them to

in general, the largest and most important russia covers, as it were, a buffer between china and the west. yes, and nato yes, they understand that if russia, god forbid, uh, weaken, disappear. uh, here or there, as the ukrainians say they will split, then china will be very bad, because nato and their allies. yes, the united states and an ally will suit china, not only from the south, but also from this side the only calm border. well, yes. well, there is also a central asian state there. well, in general, yes, it is a stable , calm, border and country that is useful supplies resources, yes, which china needs to supply certain things there, which, well, first of all, weapons. yes, you are talking about armaments, armaments with us, eh yes

, russia has been a monopolist for a long time, and in deliveries to practically monopolists in the supply of weapons. china due to the fact that, by the way, there are sanctions against china from the west and the usa and e, europe e and the european union since 1989, yes it is forbidden to supply weapons there. this is an important source of weapons that played a big role, and in the modernization of the chinese army. well, an important source of resources and much more, but the main thing is, of course, strategic. nyur, because strategically - this means the most important partner, which, as a result, as a result of friendship, is cooperation with which china is not one, in its own, not one on one in its own, it means complex relations with the united states

. that's why, uh, china uh , naturally supports russia. well, he supports it in such a way that it is not natural and worse for himself, yes a and and here the chinese are partner relations, but not allied, so they are not allied. uh. well so it's understandable. it depends what you mean by union. yes, if we understand that this is a military alliance with obligations of mutual defense, then this is certainly not the case and no one wants this, but because otherwise, on the other side of the other side, do not stand on the other side, because well, look in case of some then a conflict with taiwan in russia would have to take the side of china china would have to take the side of russia in the event of a conflict, but these are such large countries that they can hardly afford it, by the way, between russia and china historically had three unions yes at the end

of the 19th and beginning of the 20th century in the forty-fifth year with the government of the commandant, and in the fiftieth. e year with the government already with means chinese people's republic of china ussr and hmm every time, they didn't work. yes, they were signed. here are the last two for 30 years, but they, of course, fell apart much earlier than this. this is evidence that the union does not work very well for us, but the chinese say, uh , let's uh, talk less and do more. yes? by the way, maybe with this due to the fact that xi jinping's visits are not particularly announced to him. time ahead of time yes why well because uh, well, why get sanctioned? why create a difficult situation for yourself? yes, i believe that e china e. there will be, uh, it turns out to be certain, well, firstly, he is assisting already in the fact that he not only did not join the sa- to the sanctions. she

same trade economic cooperation is developing. yes hmm mutually beneficial we sell russia sells him oil and gas. yes, all in large quantities. that will already be achieved. coming soon, uh, $200 billion trade and so on. well, i think that implicitly, china, let's say, can do more, but he would not like it to be very much publicized, and some kind of demonstrations were organized there. well, we will not invite and cannot, because we will now go to advertising. uh, there are limits too, and maybe just for a few minutes. to the defender of the fatherland day, this is a summary of

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actions on the territory of our state, the plan for the near future involves the involvement of saboteurs with military training disguised as civilians, violent actions, an attack on some government buildings and hostage-taking with the help of forceful actions disguised as an action, a protest, the so-called position is planned to be an attempt to change power. in chisinau, the purpose of these actions is to overthrow the constitutional order , change the legitimate government to an illegitimate one, which would give our country at the disposal russia in order not only to stop the process of european integration, but also so that russia could use moldova in its war against ukraine, uh, the statement is very dramatic, but firstly, there is at least some element of truth here and secondly, this does not mean that ms. sandon, yes, and romanian patrons and even more patrons in brussels who are they going to go to some kind of action inside moldova, in particular against transnistria well, firstly,

i want to say, i answer the words of madam president, they settled the doctor. i myself have one old saying, if you squeezed your own people to the handle. by their attempts to change horses at the crossing, to jump from one reality to some kind of virtual one, that is, to cancel all economic ties of moldova, the fact of its dependence on gas supplies from russia for some benefits of integration with the european union, or rather, submitting to pressure from the american post . in chisinau you are more and more involved in unleashing the resumption of the former transnistrian conflict, it is not strange that on chisinau street people are against this and the most an easy way to compromise these performances is to say that there are all these people that you see on the screen. of course, they

took part in these demonstrations for the money of russia. yes, they simply have nothing to live on. in the current situation in moldova, and the authorities of this country , they put on this racinant, which should lead to the european union, and, by the way, the most important suspicion against them is that they are actually talking about moldova you absolutely do not blow a romanian passport in their pocket and a wonderful idea that early or later this small asteroid. you want to look for constantin that the president of moldova has a passport of a foreign country. there is a passport - this is no secret, moreover, she recently wrote about this to the romanian pension, she visited romania and they are considering her there. as a possible candidate for the president of romania, if she brings with her such a dowry as moldova, then why not in this rune

a long time ago ? romanian language, in fact, the irony lies in the historical fact that moldova is a historical region. it is much older than any romania, the principality of moldova existed, as in allah before the appearance of any romania on the map. now the situation has changed and, uh, they are looking for a way out just as in ukraine they are trying to seduce people , at some point they were seduced by the fact that let's give up communication with russia because tomorrow we will be in europe in exactly the same way here, they say, listen. yes, we have problems, we have corruption, we cannot figure it out and agree with transdniestria about living in some semblance of a common state. but tomorrow we will come to romania and in romania there are pies in romania, there are visas for romania, a visa-free regime with the european union, and so on. this is embarrassing, it must be taken into account that madame sandu

was generally elected president by the votes of those guest workers who live today in europe in western europe, they opened polling stations there. and although the number of these guest workers. the same as a guest worker in russia, but the number of polling stations is many times greater their voices. she became president. she works out. this is what actually constitutes a big problem now. and for us , including, this is the fact that things are moving towards resuming the unfreezing of the transnistrian conflict. just the parliament of moldova where the majority. these are allies of the lady. it was sandu who adopted amendments to the criminal code in accordance with which virtually every resident of pridnestrovie who has a pridnestrovian passport in his hands, and then his own passports. he is equated with a separatist. so, he promises prison and persecution, they don’t talk about what mrs. samdu directly says in the same speech, that all this information that russia is preparing sabotage on the territory of moldova, seizures of buildings and so on

, was reported on zelensky well, what else, where else to go to understand that all this initially a fiction that is designed to respond to a request from the west, which is under moldova, so that it gets into this story, uh , first of all, by eliminating, as they believe, the pro-russian enclave in transnistria, that is, the threat looms over the topic of 200,000 russian citizens who are on in fact, with russian passports , the transnistrian moldavian republic is a threat. you know about the threat about the threat. it's hard for me to say, but i know one thing for sure. right now, maybe somewhere there will be a laugh among our spectators, but as a person studying this, i can say that the romanian military intelligence is one of the most competent intelligence services in europe. the continent, having an extremely limited budget , has a remarkable result and at one time helped the americans in afghanistan for this

created a school for undercover intelligence in one of the armenian cities, therefore, i don’t know what the state of organizing russian intelligence is there for what the romanian intelligence is able to organize. any provocation with any? i have doubts about the victims in moldova. well, you know, romania is certainly a great country in the great than moldavia during the first world war. uh, nicholas ii allowed himself to be persuaded and made romania an ally of france, this chernosian in his headquarters dissuaded him quite precisely as a result of russian as a result of russian front against hungary where there were e, romanian troops. it was immediately broken through and , in general, russia had to deal with this gladly for a long time, and during the second world war, fortunately for russia, romania, e, the germans had already taken advantage. and ruslan knows better than me how it helped? how it helped

germany near stalingrad is really true, but there is such an apocryphal in moscow circles that when russia returned crimea to its homeland in the first few days, but practically nobody from moscow decor. don't understand that the same is happening and explained to the americans to the british to the french, it is precisely romania that the romanian military, even a small and perhaps not the most successful state, can create an effective structure. here is one short question, most of us have no idea what opportunities pridnestrovie has to defend itself , what are the deterrent mechanisms to prevent moldova and bucharest from fulfilling their intentions, you know, the transnistrian armed forces or , let's say, the formation of even, of course, the case exacerbations will be swept away within literally a few hours, because they are actually unarmed with nothing but light

weapons. i think that in the event of such a scenario , the russian peacekeepers will definitely not, like, uh, once the dutch dutch peacekeepers stand on the sidelines, when civilians die . i was on the beams, and they will certainly, uh, have their say, but there, probably, russia will not remain silent. i would like to rehabilitate the transnistrian armed forces, at least on the example of the transnistrian conflict of 1992, because after all, people there know, like all people in general, that they defend their own land between them and moldova, if we don’t talk about the city of bender, which is located at the same time to the left on the right bank. well, on the left to on the right bank, strangely enough, stood, in fact, in fact, between them the dniester river, which still needs to be crossed with such courage. here are the latest statements of ms. sandu due to the fact that they were cautious for the first few months, because they were not sure that ukraine would survive in this kherson-odessa direction, but after after frost stabilized with the departure

of our eskirson, it seemed to them that russia in general. here it will not reach the border with transdniestria, the problem of transdniestria is that it is actually a blockade on one side of ukraine on the other side. at the same time, in fact, we are talking about restoring the ability to break through this corridor across the dniester , and perhaps if these actions are taken, this will be an additional incentive for us. i think so. this should be done because the question is very symbolic people with in the ninety-second year they are waiting for reunification with russia, we did not go for it, because ukraine lies between us, but now ukraine is more. and if, let's say, ukraine, uh, would take the position that russian aircraft cannot fly through its territory in order to provide support, uh, to transdniestria, then you want to say that moscow did not necessarily

take into account ukrainian warnings a long time ago insisted and they know it well, so that before the start of special operations we still unblocked, took efforts to reopening the report of tiraspol, she is already taking the plane. we could not do this respecting what the corridor did not give us. ukraine didn’t give us a corridor, moldova, but now we don’t have to ask ukraine and go from the black sea to fly to the terrace, or it’s not so far. you see, some of alexander's aggressive plans are given, if something like this happened, a similar kind arose, if you want tension between russia and not only moldova and not only romania, again, the collective west. it's like beijing would survive the resentment against russia allows. the indignation would not have survived,

there would have been an official reaction. i think that, as always, what china calls for peace means a peaceful solution through negotiations. but as always, and as in the case of ukraine, china always adds that any agreement must take into account the legitimate concerns of all parties, since there is a pridnestrovian side, then its concerns. it is necessary, probably, to take into account, and her concern is, apparently, they will remain, uh, means to admit that destroy everyone there. uh, in fact, moldova has already achieved one result , the negotiation process has simply been destroyed, it has been going on since the ninety-second year in the + 5 + 2 format. it is completely ruined as a result of these unilateral actions of moldova that are pushing for the resumption of the conflict. all i can say is that, like, here

moldova is far from moscow, who, like, is not in the center of europe, what, it does not have such a big meaning implied. you are right that it has a great symbolic meaning, of course, and uh, after all, given the ukrainian difficulties both militarily and diplomatically, because not everyone in the world is ready to support ukraine, then , uh, look for another conflict, another field for confrontation , to provoke russia in some way by military means. but this is, as they say, counter-intuitive, but a sound intuition and what is happening in kiev , and they, of course, rarely come into contact with the situation so it is. let's just say, not just interesting, but potentially, in general, very serious, i would like to hope that

somehow they will find something in chisinau they will find a formula that would not lead to another armed conflict for you, honestly, also on a personal level, that i really don’t want people in transnistria to go through what donetsk lugansk is going through . so we will hope and i am sure that russia will do everything possible to protect these people. and we will watch and discuss this with excitement when we return tomorrow for the big game. thank you

hello everyone. is this a podcast pc or console? my name is ilya pelikatsky. and i professional esports. hello friends. my name is konstantin sakhnov. i am a game producer, game developer and teacher at the higher school of economics, i am glad to welcome everyone. my name is dmitry, a simple russian surname smith. i am the head of the russian federation of computer sports, which is the president. and today. we wanted to talk about how the gamer actually started, what was it before the chicken or the egg, the computer or the console. that's what you got ahead, but my story is complicated, because i had a console. ah, because i have many, many relatives i lived in the same apartment i didn’t have my own computer and when i studied very, very well. my parents decided to arrange such a trimmer for me and gave it to me. i was the happiest kid at the time, so you played alone at first yes, then i started making friends thanks to the console. and what is your story konstantin i was very

lucky 7 years. i was given for my birthday. dandy it was something before his first computer. of course, i waited a very long time, but thanks to dandy, i just stopped having friends because i sat at home and didn't go anywhere. my story is a little different, i'm still born in the seventy-seventh year, and in the first a computer or a console. i don't even fully understand myself, i had z expectrum. it seemed to be a computer, but which used a tv instead of a monitor, so it was something in between, but then, uh, my story still went to the computer , my ah friend had a prefix. here, by the way, he always said never teach your parents to play, then you will not have enough time to play yourself, this is generally a disaster. we went to the country and the parents started. walk to look closely, what kind of sector that we gave him, and they found a billiards, how they cut themselves in it. this is absolutely true. i generally forgot that i have a sega

and went to my friends to play another sega because mine is everything. sorry, but if we started talking about the first games, well, the console or the computer, then the first game, what was the first game here, which i remember or which hearts, so i had the first game. it was called idol nest this game was hardcore it wasn't there saves. i mean, you started it. and so, until you were killed, you continued, but as soon as you died, you had to start all over again, therefore, when at one time, then diablo came out and then diablo ii appeared hardcore mode for everyone, it was amazing. and for me it was completely normal. i mean, like, yeah, not bad not bad, because, well, i'm so unlucky. and my friends had a simpler 286 computer. do you remember there were more miracles i didn’t know that there were other games first i saw the field of miracles then simcity first. wow, then kings. bounty

first. these are just games that i still consider to be masterpieces rather quickly. i discovered football for myself and that's it. i was sucked into the first fifa that i had this fifa 97 and there was one very cool thing, and then they removed it from the game and, probably, for 25 years, it didn’t exist at all. there you could play not only on the big field on the lawn, but also in the hall, but you couldn't choose that. it was necessary to click on the match and it was randomly determined whether or not there would be a hall. i could sit for an hour or two just poke to play in the hall. that's all, that's all fifa well, fifa has remained so, and that's all for now, we have a podcast salt, so here's a computer or console, so where to go, then? what to do? well, we can see how it was historically in eh, nacha. with the help of the massive invasion of uh dendy dandy squeezed out almost everything else, but the fact is that i didn’t really have computers, and they were used at work and

computer games. uh, they survived by the fact that after work the employees stayed there to play i know in the same wolfenstein 3d or something else. but then, ah, such an entity as computer clubs appeared. and there , uh, it was already possible to come, and, in general , play for inexpensively, and you used not only a supercomputer. well, right at times, but you also got access to such a thing as the internet, it was generally a fairy tale. well, that is , i, for example, remember for myself the first feeling when i was on the internet talking with women there, but from brazil. i kind of thought it was some kind of ridiculous prank. well, how can it continue. if we look at the statistics gradually computers began to come out ahead. they became cheaper more available everywhere appeared. and according to the statistics for last year, about uh, 69, probably percent. uh, the population uses computers and

uses consoles about four times less, so now it’s like , again, if you look at the trend, uh, those masterpieces that always came out on consoles, and consoles they were specifically sharpened for weekend exclusives. only here. here, now the era that lived is starting to go away and just as a result of the fact that computers have become more massive and now the latest is also ready of war for example, yes, last year it came out on pc for many e fans. e. by the way, i bought the console just for him. and now it's like, why sell back, because i thought we started. uh, say- from the dandy console can you fly a portable? you look and its developer. well listen this is probably one of the most ancient uh incredible names. he is in that from russia a citizen of russia, yes, i remember, and we even

once, when in 2004 we held the first e-sports competitions at the big site. and then we had the cup of russia at the expocentre, it looked like krasnaya presnya, and his last name was pazhitov, and they invited him just with us, uh, he played show-match, in the network tetra we did a test where you can play was against each other with uh minister of communications. so we had such a wonderful show match, so everything is clear. listen, in general , if we look now, our viewers will say, damn what they sit for the flags, where is the mobile phone, where the main thing is our game theme, how do you this topic about your mobile phone. come on, let's go to the market, if you look like that. computers, well, 22-23% for money yes, somewhere around 30 percent, well, smaller consoles and 50% - this is our mobile phones. well, there is still one percent. this is esports vr everything else together. ha ha, how

rude, wait for us you're talking about the money, what do you mean in terms of money at 200 billion dollars the total market for weed, while we say these here seemed small esports, a small fan, what is 2-3 billion there, and so on there, well, a little more it would seem nonsense. actually, it's not nonsense at all. look at the growth rate there already of esports. how many times he went to football is not difficult to see what will be there in five years conditionally for the future. yes, so now is just a great time to invest in all this. this i support. i've been investing in this for over 20 years. it was very very hot in advance, otherwise no one believed at all, but now, yes, uh, really. they are simply impressive, but i want to say that there were computer consoles, then mobile phones appeared and now virtual reality. i'm sure it won't stop there and it will go further. and this is an industry. in general, it attracts people with what is possible

in my understanding. eh, relax, you can make friends. and you can actually learn a lot, because a person likes to play. and when he does it with his friends. this is generally fine, and on this topic, always here's how to learn how to make games. how to learn something in games. i remember my students think now i i will make a quick report. well, i have a mobile phone there for a year, but, of course, it’s easy. yes , let's make some mobile phones. development costs tens of millions of dollars, and marketing can reach hundreds of millions of dollars for some mobile games. well, everything is at the arena 1.4 billion dollars a year. you represent a lot of money and a huge audience. how hard it is done i agree, but i will oppose. and for example, i once became interested. what kind of beast is such a mobile toy as well and we did for a year your toy. it cost us about half a million rubles. and we

barely recaptured this money, because, by the way, we already invested in marketing. i had no interest, but to figure out how this thing works in general, but to come up with some new game mechanics, and the game was called flipstone, and we pushed it onto both platforms. and in principle there was a large number of downloads, but we didn’t really bother with monetization. we were interested in trying. how can you feel it from the inside with your hands, so no. hey guys go for it. this can be done both cheaply and cheerfully and even qualitatively. but to earn is a separate art of the bone. tell me about the students. you teach how to make games. yes? uh, the last nine years. it's somewhere near this year we had an idea in the fourteenth year. we launched on the basis of the higher school of economics. there is such a higher school of business a and rukoy oleinik gave us the go-ahead and we are like that. yes, wow, now we have right in the state university wow games, but here it’s like the tower is huge and a bunch students and everyone are interested, and moreover , the program itself pays off, that is, all the money

that students bring, we send to teachers for marketing, and so on and so forth. as part of the program, we made our own board game and wrote a book, that's what i want to call games, and it turned out very cool. we miss about 60 people twice a year, that is, two parallel ceilings. and these people will then open their own company. how much course eat on time, well 9 months 9 months and you're rich how much money does oh i don't know what my students make a lot more than me, you know? some kind of super-mass education is now history and the fact that state universities i emphasized not only hse x look there, but st. petersburg state university and so on. everyone began to look into this sphere. what does it say, well, about the prospects of this market? absolutely correct. ah, in fact, we, as federations, also participated in this project, and just in the seventeenth year, it was from the higher school of economics. for the first time, we have launched esports courses. now it is in many universities

is also there. oh, and uh, i also did one lecture, telling how our federation was created, why it was interesting at all, here, but in fact the story is very simple . hmm, i myself was a gamer. yes, and i really liked it. eh, this world is a wonderful internet. uh, warcraft is the second one. i played appeared starkavto. we decided to create a team created a team and realized that this team lacks competition, but since they are not enough. let's get up and hold serious talks, and then, uh, it turned out that this idea is like a virus. yes, it's worth it to a person, but to immerse himself, and he becomes infected with this idea. and then people, for example. quite a lot we decided to create a federation because it became clear that this movement will need the support of the state and, moreover, in my understanding, and games and e-sports in particular. it's a great tool for getting your point across. you feel that the games are conveying

something. or maybe a positive morality , maybe a point of view, maybe a culture oh, of course, yes, but for starters, i would probably like to discuss the topic of gaming and esports, that these are slightly different components of video games, and why should we start, because gaming is, in essence, here, and in many respects what people imagine when they hear about video games in general, that is, it came after work and tanks yes, this is gaming. this is when you play for the sake of the game, you just spend it, so time sucks, and e-sports is essentially a sport, in general in all its components, and e-sports are built not only on the fact that you train in that discipline in that kind of program, well in which you play counter-strike dota and so on and so forth. and you also have to adhere to the correct daily routine. you have to stop being the best version of yourself in order to get better at the sport you play,

that's why esports. it's not as simple and not as easy as many people think that you can play dota every day for 10 hours and you will either be on the internet and win 18 million. tell your friends in the gym you know i missed the gym because i was into esports. let's not put in confrontation is some traditional dispute. it is absolutely. e, necessary in conjunction, that is, e words in a healthy body, a healthy mind. these are not just beautiful phrases. this is an axiom. well, that is, if you look at the majority of professional e-sportsmen, uh, who are on the same internet, you know, other things, uh, mostly guys. they have e not only fitness instructors, as in general, this is already the norm. they are seriously engaged in some direction. here is someone who is a master of sports in fencing, someone is engaged there basketball. and i can say by myself, well,

uh, i used to do a lot of athletics there, and i won many different prizes there in my youth. there, running at different distances, then sports rowing. and this is what helped me. uh, when i came to esports, and it was just emerging, and there, but the ability to move oneself, the ability to concentrate, the ability. that's what gives the traditional sport. the most discipline. she categorically helps, but the main thing is not even in this physically, if a person is bad he feels he cannot give away. ah, maximum results. and this sorry loss of money opportunities prospects for the audience of fans - this is a collapse. well, if we call this topic, let's say, and young people understand. it’s clear that athletes are esportsmen, i’m already 36. i’m kind of thinking, maybe i’m still into esports, or it’s too late, but too late, but there is, uh, a direction, for example,

ah, a puzzle competitor. here, for example, is also the hearthstone. you can still play. we once had a man, in my opinion, 56 years old he was in third place with us , so, of course, 200-250 million dollars. that is , when you say the word game, i immediately have price tags in my head. listen well, time about the price tags. and why games are so expensive, you know, a terrible topic, it just breaks the heads of our players. so they come and see 3,000 rubles. for the game or some other 3.000. and now it's coming out. yes, let's say you are a house, it will cost 10,000 rubles. these are catastrophic things. let's look at these numbers 3.000 10.000 5.000. it would seem obvious players, say the greedy developers. so, when are you going to eat? well, how much our money can actually, everything is very simple. let 's look at the platform that strokes

the playstation xbox console, that is, sony or microsot. let's see appstore google play yes that is google apple or even steam computer game know what commission they put in their mouth 15%. this minimum well took this one with 10.030%, they took a commission, then the publisher appears and says. well, you know for accessing the audience so i can tell players about your game. well, let me take at least 50-60% from you, which means that from the remaining 70% we have left, and from 70 we take a person. yeah, 35% left. it would seem okay at 35%.500 left. i don't think it's easy, then we start watching taxes not to worry. and we need to pay taxes. yes, we officially work with all banking transactions, money transfers, but the team had to be supported for something. do you know how much it cost to develop such games. well, let's say the most expensive game in history. god bless the memory. that star wars was about 250

million dollars, that is, on average , tripol games, they can cost 50 million and more , and in this regard, it turns out to be greedy developments, nothing works out perfectly. here, they have now begun to create their ethical plans. yes, they will all be below. i think, i think that for domestic there should definitely be premium terms. can i come, just to the developers in a straight line to get to the point that we generally somehow know each other? well , unfortunately, such work actually. i know games hit hard, including sports, but that overwatch had already come out, there was already a huge potential in russia , many people wanted to play it, but it just cut off the price. i don’t know 70% of the audience there, that is, many people couldn’t because of the price. and this, of course, is a disaster, but then you need to immediately say about the fact that, in principle, the release format of video games. he, too, has changed over

the past year. that is, before, as it happened, they came to the store to buy a disc version of the game and went home at the moment. there are a lot of free-to-play games who survive on in- game transactions. yes, but this topic, what’s even worse, if it’s rich here, this one is throwing money in, if there are greedy platforms, then there are greedy platforms and very greedy advertisers. let's see how much it costs. well, here's the game balls simple balls, yes three balls, damn, the favorite game of many people's father. i also adore young people up to people over 60 , almost everything is with you. farms are preferred. yes , this is a farmer, so these are the simplest balls. here one player has such a parameter called cpi cospringstal cost per player, that's in these balls. it happens there a dollar, two somewhere there, sometimes even more, but it depends on

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very important now, when the games begin. here, relatively speaking, or transactions, yes, and very many sin precisely the systems of the poet, that is, when a person, uh, buys such a gaming one, you understand, as if he bought a button to kill everything for esports. this is absolutely critical. it's not that. in my understanding for gaming, this is critical. well, that is, i don’t know when, at one time, the browser game fight club came out there and i was still surprised. well, i think, okay, the time is now, then it won't be like that. it turns out that there are and for some reason there are people who continue to be interested in remaining in the competition of wallets. that is, who has more and so on. here, but once again, and i am pleased with something else , that now, in general, here is the same dota , for example, yes, it showed that there is an opportunity within world transactions without affecting the balance. and you can buy yourself appearance. yes, so we call it how your

character looks, and pay money for it to support your own. i can afford it. but at the same time , this does not affect the game balance. you have a character good games more such esports, only such places. sorry, but i have experienced a lot with my esports on the air, because here is the fact. unfortunately, with all its pluses. e. this is exactly the game that over the past few years has become payne's game because all tournaments are played in the ultimate game mode team er, this is a mode in which you assemble a team of cards. each card has its own characteristics. and each card has its own price inside the game currency, and there is a loot box, that is, packs that you can open, they can be opened for inside the game currency. and you can open it like real ours, why did they come up with boxes in order to earn more, because when a person plays the lottery, he obviously pays more than he would buy, of course, there is

a simple mathematics of the game, this is mathematics. here at me all the numbers, and mathematics, that's what works well. and there is such a parameter as mathematical expectation. it allows you to calculate the cost of boxing, if everything is calculated correctly, it turns out that we are selling something that wants to buy a game for a big price, that is, you understand, it's simple. pulling out money, yes, but on the other hand. this has another implication. that is, it began with what everything is the same iv online, for example, yes, you could buy there, but a subscription hmm for your e friend. that is, uh relatively speaking, one person bought a subscription for himself and paid more, let's say for 10 subscribers, and then he distributed these subscriptions to his friends and thus he could pay quite good for everyone. naturally, friends. he was somehow compensated within the game currency, thus the black market was still a little controlled. here and uh, it gave an understanding that there are people who are willing

to pay for many, but on the other hand, then evolution went further, listen a. if there are people who are willing to pay for me. maybe maybe we can make it so that we sell expensive things to those who are willing to pay a little here. so we will not sell a thing, but the probability of acquiring it, so we got it from a loot box. and it's still sorry play internal demons. e people, when there is excitement, when there is faith, what the hell, today i will definitely be lucky. today is my day and then a man, yes, if you count, then each of these uh players who did not want to pay for god penny by penny by penny, and they paid much more than they could afford. really scary. actually. it is interesting to combine with statistics. that's what you're talking about, and represent in almost all markets in the world, if we look at mobile casual games are leading three in a row farms in the us casual - this is for a fairly wide

audience. we divide games into hyper casual casual metcore hardcore hyper hyper all easy. everything is great. you never lose. no, the resistance is a casual game, it can be difficult, it can be very difficult, but the entry threshold is easy one mechanic, everything is clear, everything is clear. what to do? the medcore game lets you explore. here are the same games related to esports. they are mostly mitcore why because a person should have something to learn from? that's what skill shows, yes, and hardcore you suffer , suffer and suffer again, i explain the threshold of entry. if so, how long does it take you to figure out what to do in this game? we are a little bit with that, but the donations moved out, and i realized that you, uh, while discussing i donate such a thing. that's the thing horror the anonymous donators club is opening because the first thing i realized was that

i had a lot of my own money, i honestly donated fifa and i 'm ashamed to name this figure, but i'm ready to name the biggest donation that i made for one part of fifa comes out every year . that is, there now revelation began in september every year a new one comes out. and so i made money on fifa competed in fifa and unfortunately, supported a not very good story with payne and the biggest was more than half a million rubles in one version. nothing myself for a year, but not immediately not one or one application. but the second thing is that i have not been playing fifa for several years, at that level i have already moved a little away from esports, but we talked about donations. i realized that i would, in principle, lose some weight, throw something beautiful would have turned out. eh friends. this is a comparty console podcast. my name is konstantin snov. and my colleagues want to donate. hello, i have not been to the dacha for 3 days. you know this, well,

because the truth is, in fact, this is it, uh, i don’t know how it works, it’s probably really social psychology , what happens to a person in life, but in life we ​​want to buy some beautiful thing that will be. to attract the attention of other classes, everything seems to be the same running. and you have a golden hat. how many fifas of different versions did you buy, but played, at least in the ninety-seventh, all the parts that came out, that is, roughly speaking, every year we can now the last fiat 23. plus, a special edition came out such is the world cup european championship , that is, there are still 6-8 games. well, that is, all of you paid attention to the announcements of the twenty -third year of 20 new assassins, one of them turned out to be a bunch, yes, and the metavers, it seems, like the assassins. that is, i mean that there is a lot of trend in the remake of the remake. here to sell

old brands. why do you think? well , it’s more shilo in my understanding that he will hook the release of the next diablo there, then the audience that will not play it, but she will buy it, because she bought all the previous ones, because what is this great devil? how is this business? great blizzard is still there many decades ago, and already this will give additional profit value nice, what do you think? i think first of all i agree. it is easier to sell an old brand than to create a new one. well, in principle, especially very popular, and games that are re-released. these are really the games that were insanely popular now being released by the residents. evil 4, but who didn’t cut into the rating, but everyone played, and deadspace just came out dead space at one time tore the market apart. but here, just more than the console, because then it was still, if i'm not mistaken, an exclusive for the console, and later it came out, in my opinion, on the pc, but the point is not the point, the point is that and these are the games in which we everyone here who

played them, we thought that now the playstation 5, and there the 40-90 ti century xbox is new. but if those games are playing again, generally breaks, it's simple. just mega cool and here we are back to the money. yes, yes, i agree with you here. just very simple. that's how much development costs. how much does marketing cost , we said these gigantic commissions in order to beat it all off. they, of course, when you have a game cost of not one million dollars, and there you don’t want to take risks anymore, so there are proven schemes where there really is an audience. well, in general, to be honest, there is a feeling that there are fewer cool new products that come out every year. yes, i just remember before even there years, even, probably, 5-6 years ago. you open some yandex google e, waiting in the search. most importantly, there is the expected game. ugh next year. and there's just darkness, and you here you look and you understand. oh this this this i want.

but this is what we will play from another. well, that’s where i scored 20 and 25 already in my head there. now i’ll even admit it, and just a couple of days ago i looked. i realized that well, five, well, six, maybe you just got old. so i can’t understand, i’ve grown old and my environment is there or have the games really become a little different , of course we all get old, but the fact is that the market is changing, and the market is not changing by itself. it changes with our world we know that our world has entered a completely unique phase. and it can be called differently. sometimes it’s definitely interesting and will lead to colossal changes. and what we see now is an attempt to rebuild, because now a huge number of connections are beginning to break, and since nature does not tolerate emptiness. they appear in another place , perestroika is underway, and just at that moment no one wants to take risks, so now everyone will play in the gamedev market. in my

understanding, either as much as possible, or vice versa, as adventurous as possible. here someone will probably now try to make something very cheap, very, well, dacha. and it can expose you see, if we look at those game mechanics that are used, they are all beaten. yes, a new mechanic may appear, or with the advent of a new tool. here is the same virtual augmented reality, or something fundamentally new from the point of view of the approach, but, uh, virtual reality, it has already presented a lot of things to us. but, by the way, hmm, i'm young, but i still remember the time, but they called me young there were games, but there were no mice. oh yeah. there were simply no mice and played. i have the same wolfenstein on the keyboard and still played mortal kombat. yes, yes, yes, yes, and then there was a mouse. and you know, that was the feeling

when it was as if the wings behind my back opened up. i realized that there are huge opportunities in front of me, this small simple tool allows you to do something that was previously impossible. in principle, therefore, it is quite possible now. some breakthrough technological moment let's have one more moment. eh, just like ours. uh first release we only introduce our audience. possibly with computer games. and who it is the audience of video games, it really is played by everyone, there is some age. here is the one we can highlight. ah. there is a popularity that mainly only young people play. actually. this is really a delusion, and if in russia we can talk about the average age of dinar, very different estimates from the higher school of economics give 36-37 years, and some polls give 31-33 years. this is due to the fact that you are 36. how is it connected that you are 36 i

did not tell. i didn't confirm anything. and in the usa it’s a little older, and in china it’s a little younger, but more or less all over the world there is a general trend that it’s not children who play , moreover, most importantly, it’s not children who pay. we as developers, we want to earn what we want, we want to earn a day. we don't want to just make free games that we pay for ourselves, so we want to make games for adults. we will make games smarter. we want to make games with a big story, so that you yourself would be interested in making these games, as i understand it, right? well, that including it is very interesting to make simple games, it seems to me, that is. first you do it did. it is insanely difficult to make a simple one, roughly speaking, much more difficult in my understanding. and like i said games. this is a huge popularity, this is a culture, and this is a conductor, and in my understanding , all over the world now, and the state will make state orders for the creation of the right games for the youngest population. here's a look at china is the same. it has already started there.

you can then say something already new copper. this already accomplished fact or is it the future than media it's something more. than entertainment. this is a new kind of culture in my understanding. this is the junction of the culture of art - this is something that did not exist before. well, that sounds really ambitious. this is true, but as they say, i did not set how everything will lead. well , this is very interesting, and indeed , according to statistics, people now play games more than go to the cinema, for example, it has already happened. let's be honest 19.6% points for the pandemic is not experienced growth, how are things? this is the twentieth a year we usually grow there, well, 8% a year here almost 20 at once. naturally, all investors broke down to give money for games. naturally, these are indirect investors and private investors and funds. all in russia , such a number of investment funds have appeared that i have never seen exactly at the end of this twentieth year. well, okay. these are

the growth rates. i would like to invest in it. why would this lead us to casual gamers or developers? even more jobs more products someone will fail. yes, this is a fact of venture, it's okay, but suddenly there will be cool titles. i would like to believe in the best. i believe in our geniuses too. even against the background of esports, it happened many times. yes, we have the esports genius alive. say it again, please, russia has always been rich in talent, and uh. task in my understanding of the state. just help with this talent. you know how they joked in the soviet union. help talent mediocrity and the government themselves here is the same story. eh, now that's the direction. you know how we made friends. i propose to slow down at this moment today so that there is more interesting than you after the release to find out what's in store for video games in russia now. we are

twenty-third year and generally talk in more detail, how i will make money on the computer will share with us friends. is this a podcast pc or console? my name is ilya pelikatsky e-sportsman and my friends dmitry president of the russian e-sports federation konstantin game producer game developer teacher of the higher school of economics put likes everywhere on the tv like button and than put see you very soon. tonight with you podcast free program. i am maxim tankov, and we have absolutely unique guests . elena anatolyevna chaikovskaya, deeply respected by me and i am sure by all of you, good evening. good evening, glad

to see you, as the head coach of the russian national figure skating team, are you satisfied with the state of affairs in russian figure skating? the head coach of the national team in the entire history of my coaching work, i now accepted very strongly. there were times when it was worse. now i have in my hands very strong very interesting in terms of the composition of the national team. i hope they keep going show. what is our russian figure. what is the strength of our team. the strength is in the discoveries, because there were many elements of many approaches to the programs. created here russia has always been remarkable for its amazing

ingenuity, ideas, musicality and wonderful performances. here in this, our village, she remains. and what is the work of the head coach of the russian national figure skating team, because, after all, we are an individual sport. we each have our own personal coach, coaching staff, and so further. head coach. we do not have a hockey team that is assembled for the world championship and a head coach is appointed. our head coach looks after all the athletes who are currently a member of the national team. and my task is to help see, and somewhere to say if people want to hear it, and somewhere to slightly change direction to say that if you did this. then, probably, it would be more weighty more winning. then all the same, my task is to create. i most importantly, that he training coach is obliged to create this atmosphere, in

that you always want to come. we have a tough sport. and when everyone says, how beautiful you are a cat, and these are easily in light dresses with flowers, then no. we have a very hard job, and so that this hard work does not turn into such a terrible job, when you don’t want to go there, the task of all coaches. and i especially still create an atmosphere of interest in the discovery of new elements. they got it. yes, i succeeded and when it happens to an athlete. he wants to move forward. and this is the creation of a common interest. and most importantly , athletes should trust me, they should trust their coaches that we will never betray them. that we will never do something

that would harm them, they should know that we are for them, that these are our children, that this is our e, creativity, that they are with us, and we are with them, this is the head coach . well , you said you look after all the athletes, but the coaches. well, i mean coaches, of course, with coaches. i talk to a lot of people. i myself drive up to training, i look, and who needs it, he consults who does not need it, for god's sake very well. everything goes. fine. i rejoice in you more than anyone else in the task of creating the conditions and my federation for our sport. it thundered the way it thundered, the situation is always difficult now we do not enter the international arena well, what did we have during this period the magnificent russian grand prix now we are waiting for the junior grand prix, then

the senior grand prix. that is, we are on the program. everything is the same as we had in those years when we were admitted to the competition in general. the task of the federation is to save the national team. in that amazing form in which it was, here it is. you must understand it very clearly and try to do it. that is, you believe that the prevailing conditions. uh, enough of what has been done for our sport, more than that, we 're on schedule. we haven't changed anything. i am like a coach. uh, i watch all the competitions. i look at the number of starts. i look at the number of trainings, what we are preparing for. our schedule is practically the same as it was all these years of the previous decades. we have not changed anything, on the contrary, we are also adding adding some new jumping competitions. as you remember, you were in st. petersburg. now , there will probably be free programs.

that is, we are still creating and directing the international soviet society to the fact that this sport should be developed in some kind of government, as in general, the idea of ​​this tournament of demonstration numbers. well, it’s not for me to explain to you that after the competition everyone skates what they can, but to create special programs. now he will have to be their coach and choreographer. we ourselves are an athlete to think, after all, the task of a coach, but to choose such music and such a syllable on the ice text that would reveal the maximum qualities of an athlete. don't just let's do it there. this is the revelation of individuality. when does it all match, when does your athlete feel the music, when do your elements? you are the winner, the same will now be in the exhibition numbers.

don't just let's dance something there, as much as you can surprise, i always told my athletes. we are talking now even come up with every year how you can win, how you can surprise, and show my performances god himself is returning to sports, and we are ahead of the rest in pair skating and in women's single skating, but men and dances. to put it mildly, we are a little behind. i don't agree, i don't agree with the stations. and in general, it's wonderful that we had dances. now we are now we yes we are a little bit i don't mean lost. we now know how the whole step. those are gone, and now we will have to go up and eat a few pairs. again, you need to come up with their face to reveal their individuality to find some kind of new image. everything if you want

our dance art was famous for setting the tone for the development of world dances. now the french have pushed us back for a while. with their religion, with their own kind of new plasticity. hmm , there were still americans of the french. this is the same play. yes, therefore, now we must again return to our domination, and you can return it by the fact that you are even a new stimulus, a new direction. this is what needs to be done. this is also the head coach. we need to increase our reserves. couples that would lead the world

dancing art , that's why the corridor is open , let's go ahead . and plushenko well, we will always talk about the state of two amazing athletes, and what are we talking about the world champion. no, good question. why do we have a world championship, because the world champion has not yet been born. here he should be the world champion, he needs to be seen, he needs to be discovered. if mishin revealed plushenko from a little boy the same, stared at her will no one expected it to turn out. this is what tanya understood his essence. and on this i created this bomb and worked only for him, but his individuality. there must be a coach

who will find an athlete for himself in the evening and we will disperse. no, the coach must show the best qualities, show the individuality, here i am and at the same time cover it up a little, because each athlete has some who have more who have fewer flaws, so our task is something close, and leave only this symbol. championships and everything else will be in the junior team or not? i see him as an adult and i see them very well . i won’t name them, because someone will be offended again, but you are wrong about men, there are good men. you have already said that for the sport of high achievements, we are doing quite a lot even in this difficult time,

but for children's sports, many athletes come thanks. projects that started there 10-12 years ago or the ice age and many others, recording. in what is difficult now , it used to be considered a lot of additional ones you have to take. that is, the tackle grew no in the olympics, right? well , here i am of the same opinion that tackles are good earnings for coaches. and the task

of the coach in serious time is to be in time at the time allotted to give everything that the athlete should receive and still interest him. i am to all young coaches. now i’m saying, please don’t discourage children from skating. do not yell any obstacles, on the contrary, support him. whisk. oh, it turned out oh, it's gone, what got to the music, in general, everything is interesting and so on. but it's not gingerbread. it is he who feels like a gingerbread man himself, not what i give him, he himself . i have a task for him to feel like a person to whom something has happened, then it will be a gingerbread . no, this does not work when he himself here's a friend and that's it. even the eyes are different. i look, my eyes are burning. in general, i am looking for athletes who had my eyes on fire, and you are now following the european championship, for example, which took place at the

world championships. how can i not follow? well, what kind of question is i asking you a question then let's just say level, well, without us the world figure skating has collapsed. here is the absence, firstly, the absence of a struggle, then the absence of the most serious women's programs, the absence of our very interesting ones. the park in pair skating, what are these pairs ? lord, house, my god, what is it, so i looked, i couldn’t watch all the women. i have such 12- year-old children at the rink, they skate much better. yes, so i don’t know what he thinks of himself, but with yu is an international soviet skater. so i wanted to say, to whom it is beneficial, they are not beneficial, for sure. they lost all money. i just received a call from japan, they had a japanese championship and if they

collect somewhere up to 14-15.000 always. well, the truth was hay this one. now they have collected six. and sponsors began to turn their heads to say that this is actually not for that. they sponsored all this here, so i think that soon they will grab their heads and realize that without us it's not the same, and then it was interesting for the audience. let god crawl. well, you yourself understand that if it’s not interesting to watch, who will go who will buy a ticket, because there has always been a struggle and people saw it and understood that it was going on. all very serious facets, that everything is very high, that this is a sport of the highest achievements. yes, no one allows themselves. that's how to ride in europe now, there's somewhere in the fourth fifth, probably, and god well, it's indecent. yes, even, but after all, the european championships here in recent years.

here. uh, it was a fight of three russian single skaters of three russian couples. in europe, it's probably not very interesting to watch how the russians hold the next russian championship . let them pull themselves up. who is to blame that they can't do it. why? i say that we always asked tom in all kinds, because we were reaching for ourselves, but america held on to japan held on, someone else jumped out. i understand that the easiest way is to push us back in all forms, so as not to get in the way . but we moved further away, who cares, now our return to the world arenas is being actively discussed. and what conditions do you think? acceptable none i consider unacceptable no doubts raised questions did not set boundaries for me. you only come out when you're there something sign something still without a flag without anything. what it is. what

is it? why? who has the right to tell us what to do? well, i agree , as it were, if we go under the olympic anthem and the flag it's good for our athletes to come out, because i have insane pain for those who will not make it to the age of figure skaters for another four years. short thank god that there are some shows there. where to leave. the only thing i'm very grateful for is that people don't cum. there in the fourteenth year. keep such a commercialization of our sport, and then uh, an athlete can skate in two shows , interview great coaches, and so on. i do not support because you are leaving the sport. i am the head coach. i can't support it. i want all the athletes who are on their feet now to stay here, after winning all the olympiads. you're going to be an olympic champion, anyone went, right? and so i'm interested in us staying here,

so that we can be quickly admitted to the competition in which we have always dominated, i understand what you are saying that the three first places in steam. in general, we used to have pedestals three dances three in these pairs, always , no one even thought, and the winners were girls and boys. well, three failed. but who needs it? that's right, no one wants to, so in general, i see that everyone happily agreed that we were not at the international, we will return. i know it, for sure. when i interview immediately after the competition, i very often hear from coaches and athletes, and it is difficult to find motivation in these conditions of international isolation. what do you recommend? where can you get it if you have do you come to your home? you have here

the atmosphere of work you have the atmosphere to find something and you succeed, and you grow and you create and create together with the coach. this is such a creative job. what motivation, for the sake of this it’s generally just worth skating. i have been for so many years. i work as a coach, that they know for sure that when a person is on fire, when they manage to create something very interesting new for themselves, then he will come here, will ride, will do and everything else, this must be preserved . and the athletes who are now they change citizenship when they change it, they somehow do not grow, as it seems to me, to perish in their work. no need to change. these are people who cannot endure, in general, the sport of the highest achievements is patience. you know, as this is my favorite common expression i always say, the most important thing is

to endure. be patient. endure everything you know how to get into a difficult situation. nothing, we'll be patient. how will we give everyone in the international arena to know who they actually did not allow no, if you can endure, then you are the champion anyway, they want to run away now. so what? well, they left, that they rode further. in life, no one knows , and that's it. you can travel around the world for a little bit. i don't know, you asked me, i don't have an answer. to this question, why leave and why leave? i won't go anywhere. pain can be a different mechanism for the development of pain, one it doesn’t matter what caused the pain, if there is pentalgin universal remedies against different types of pain due to

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there alexey nikolaevich mishina moskina. there is a younger generation. there are also absolutely successful super successful ones even younger. you are calm about our coaching potential. well, of course, i 'm proud, not only i'm calm, because i'm the only one i'm laughing that we continue to work tamara 80 moskvina mishin 81, in my opinion, i'm 83, we should, as it were, put in new young ones. their places and that they are also interested, because we are still immensely interested in figure skating , it was development, however, each coach has an assistant who is young and hot. this annoys me now. here's the story tim mishin tim some kind of fucking tim has always

been one coach one choreographer. you now all have 50 people behind you. and that like raikin who came sleeve? remember when the hand is the other way? exactly it's the same, who is responsible is responsible head coach. uh, well you used to have an ogre. anyway, the side is worth eating, right? here is such a wife of a coach is a coach. she 's not tim what tamara doesn't have you either. it's you who came up with yourself now, you sew, trousers, sleeveless, i eat, and a hat, but responsibility, somehow. she travels in all directions. no, well, it's all the time i understand that this is a new time and that's it. we did not allow ourselves. we made costumes. we treated, went

to the hospital, sewed shoes together with the athletes. yes, it's all parents. do. you see, how about this, by the way, parents now trust themselves very often so immersed in their own. i understand that they invest a lot of money, but at the same time it happens that parents already become coaches and bring music to doctors. don't let your parents go anywhere. let him help, indeed , education with treatment is possible there, well, not at all. no. well, it's probably easier when you shift the responsibility on the parents, i return to the coaching staff. i want to ask. so focused, isn't it?

everything is concentrated in moscow and st . whether not, the coach's task is to be a world coach. whether something does not work out or there is no condition, but somehow they are not born there. i don't know what's the matter. i'm in favor of still having points. in many cities, where there are conditions, you have seen absolutely all the successes and soviet figure skating and russian figure skating. tell me what are the advantages of our training system and what can be

the disadvantages? go for a walk, and we are working, the way we worked in the soviet union, the system is serious and gives very good results, because in girls we are generally ahead, in my opinion, the planet is not that there is someone amazing, a complete breakthrough of loss magnificent just a pleiades whole children who are trained they trained themselves early childhood. this is the meaning of what i took there at the age of 15. this i will train her. no, it's all here is the system is its success. she is probably now the most recognizable coach from the new

generation. of course, i spoke to all his families absolutely. e. competently, built, and for each athlete, different athletes built a training system. this is very important for her athletes, in general, our russian athlete becomes famous, after all, quite early. now so the sport has become a very young figure skating. and that's good. is this fame or, after all, maybe this fire, water and copper pipes, it would be better if it came later honestly, then everyone will say. and it sucks, as you say . no, it's better for it to come at your age, when people understand what they deserve. they lived it, they created it, because these kids are bouncing

wonderfully talented, but they can't appreciate it. uh, all the power of this success for what life has given them. here's a chance, you know? this also needs to be assessed and understood and used further, how to live with it and where to go i can’t help but ask about the most probably high-profile story of recent years figure skating, that is, camila's story of not allowing us to compete. this is one of the steps. how would we remove a very convenient stage. here is such a notion of some kind of microdoses of something that gives nothing and take it, because our best girls are. not that someone was holding it there. after the european championship if it was known and was it so why didn’t you immediately announce at europe would have taken away

the medals and everything else waited for the olympics, everything was a hit, and to be honest, no one was expecting this. and all in all, it's just bullshit. and now i have to be very persistent, especially i need to feed myself. i felt a person against whom such a big political game is being played. if she understands this, she will pass it, and everything will be fine, she is 16 years old. so i say that it is difficult for her. yes, if a person is an adult, he can appreciate this , and it’s difficult here, so support is very important, but it’s all for me to support everything. it's hmm doping story. well , not that unpleasant, she's just outrageous. here, i'll tell you honestly. it shouldn't be like this , they shouldn't hit athletes, especially

girls. no, you have to go through patience, we just talked about it, yes, but this is such a global patience, it’s the athletes and coaches that have to go through it. and so do i, by the way. now in the press, confrontations between coaching staffs between athletes and so on are especially often exaggerated and inflated. what do you think, is it normal now that there is such a press, that it would be better if it did not exist at all, because what they write, in the first place, they all the time they come up with, there's nothing here you really don't have. secondly, all my life we ​​had and i competed with the beetle all the time no confrontation. on the contrary, it gave tamara moskvina, on the other hand, in pairs, the same thing threw new students onto the mountain. it's normal, thank you. god can not exist

one coach, he will perish. he needs to know all the time that someone is near or near the border, there with a friend, of course, of course, competition and that's it. this is interesting, you have not yet been asked about some such dubious questions, for sure. well, you see, that’s why, over time, happiness at first constantly fell into some, now i either just don’t answer, or i find some kind of answers that they don’t print, because here the water is absolutely correct. yes, i do the same. i don't give any interviews. go forward, don't pay attention to what's behind. they say that in your opinion, there is not enough world figure skating or russian figure skating. where to direct the look forward what is not enough to pay attention to? boundaries beyond which we

came out world figure skating lacks , uh, either a system, or statehood, where it would be, so that it would be serious. there is a very good coach, but there is no system. they work for their parents. or even sometimes at their own expense. you see a good athlete, but you can’t jump out on this. it must be such an amazing system we have. yes, amazing training, i wish them all, by the way, china used to send our pair skating coaches there. they completely took over our system. not send more coaches there. this is my main square. yes, there are none at the time. i'm sorry, i always coached the italian national team in three types, with pairs of dances and singles.

poland is my all poles, there are dances. this is all mine. i coached the canadian team. by the way , those who are now in the montreal school, they skated with me. i showed them romance there, because it was introduced at that time. i mean, i mean, i coached a lot , there were exchanges, but i was always exchanged on skiing coaches, there was also some kind of coach at the exchange. it was terrible, because suddenly they call me in the summer, and we have only one month. uh, it's june, of course, relax or do something. you 're flying to canada tomorrow. i don't want to go anywhere. fly away, so there were such exchange offices that were very good. by the way, i still have all these connections and relationships from those times. and now it's all stopped with coaches abroad,

i communicate with them. they call me, and all relations remain the same, but there is no longer this exchange of knowledge with ideas by some kind of training processes, yes, but they finished with us joined i remind you that we are visiting. a great figure skating person or anatolyevna tchaikovsky sometimes you train a person, somewhere already in the national team at night you think, my god. well, what is it, what is it? why is it not going and all the insight will no longer be able to. everything has already been worked out. all and this is for friction. here is for me. this is the most difficult discovery that gorky made, because you are still looking for trying everything, and then

you are late. the very top, well, this is coaching , coaching in general. why else don't go it and at night you lie thinking? you do not live your own life, here you pull it and that's it. but still, come all in the coaching work. yes? well, it's very good that you and i are talking about this topic, but i'm still such a sore subject that very few of you people have come to coaching. my task is to attract you. i understand that ballet on ice is all different, so to speak, financial matters. well, it would be great if you caught fire. with this development, here is what you will see, what you have picked up. that's how the child of the people on you raised him. maybe you will say who you wanted to see

as a coach from the athletes who please, i wanted to see you, so the school is right with the school. i don't understand why it doesn't work. your partner, wife, well done. nice. i would like to see from what now if there are hotbeds, why don't tarasova go there with frost, finishing there in how many years? they could they could, you know. i think that vova would definitely be able to, of course, well. i can't figure out where igudin is. why is he between heaven and earth already like exactly artist, that's the point. i am happy that zhenya came, happy because there was a period when no one came at all. we had

a complete failure in 2006, here we are. yes, because there was an ice show of earnings, others, please, a very big deal for athletes, but all the same, it will someday run out of time, i don’t know. this is also very heavy. you have to find yourself, how will you teach? well, now you come on, take a couple. who else will see? as a head coach, i demand. uh yes please cuz i'm very interested i'm very interested

interested in you. you are young. you are full of full energy. you are full of ideas. let's all start. see, you asked what the head coach does with this. great. now i know, i ran to execute. thank you very much, honestly, a great honor. i was really worried, to be honest, before this interview, because i didn’t know how to go talk to you at all, but it turned out very cool. thank you, you are very kind. i have emphasized a lot of you worth a lot. thanks i was afraid. don't be afraid, i found a job, i'm sure i will support. thank you. i'm very glad . thank you.

dear passengers we have scored a proper height in the podcast. everyone wants to fly, our flight will last approximately 36 minutes. i hope you enjoy today. i am the monitoring pilot leonid yakubovich and our guest pilot pilot sergey burunov seryozha hello i want to talk to you about love. so about love that never passes and once given by god burns in us and smolders us like a small flame, even if it has already passed. let's talk about people who at least once, if they held in their hands a handle

from a helicopter or a horn steering wheel. in 904 by specialty, well, the specialty in the diploma was to be a pilot engineer. how many studied 2 years? what is this time? what have you learned about your profession? yes, especially for 2 years, i didn’t even really manage to learn anything, well, aerodynamics, of course, a lot of specialized sciences was the theory of gas turbine engines of design, the strength of the aircraft were simulators were uh, l-39. here albatross had to sit at least once, well, more than once, yes there are some trainers. so this big word is now simulators. and there, that only devices, these alarm clocks were bowls, everything

digital also passed. yes, and stepper starters in the next room were definitely everything. uh , you left after 2 years, yes. and highly prepared. i look, i'm just a backstory before the quality of the school. i also, uh , visited such a second moscow city aeroclone, i have valikhina. i am fifty- second, i had yak fifty- second there right away. there were three of their aero clubs, there was the first helicopter, and airplane gliders the second, and the third are these paratroopers. no no. no, i asked the 52nd aerobatic pilot , they put us first on the 18th yak. at least it wasn't exactly like that. we were taught at fifty-seconds right away, the second cabin or the first first second. what did you feel there, that you were making melman barrels. this i did later many years later as well, and then we were just doing park

chores. here, mainly on the provision of the airfield. so they came there on their own clean. e, as they say, on a purely initiative, the air rose. eh, here was this injury for me because i studied well? i passed the whole theory, here, and these were the nineties, when everything was like this fuel, zero, and the story was very funny, because i drove up for the first time, a tanker, we were preparing for the plane to take off, and i stood on the latch, and i filled the tank from there , his fountain went and, most importantly, the aerodrome engineer. we have an intelligent transmission can not. i learned a lot about myself. here, yes, he said, what, what are you doing? every drop is worth its weight in gold. that was the case when uh mine pilot instructor heavenly kingdom to him vasily vasilyevich khromov i don’t know if they knew him or not, well, it doesn’t matter, and he came up

we had two. we then here, too, humble a bandmate we went in the summer heard that you are good guys. throw yourself on rock, scissors, paper. so he had a stone, i had scissors and flew. l he here and after many years in 2007. i have already flown at this airport. i started our conversation with this, but still a circus school. lord almighty i am talking about this because the number of my friends are my acquaintances who passed the circus school. yes, gennady viktorovich klyaver oleinikov, aka yes. who taught you? oh, because what i would ask is, in those days, vova was sharpened or a rodberk, but the saints were people, it was something you studied in the circus in the country. yes

, these people were not there. alexander anatolyevich shirvin used to teach there before, and memory betrays us. well, then we met with him. eh, many years later. i was there for a short time, i studied there for a year in pike at shchukinskaya yes, in the workshop of marina panteleeva, visa, but this is happiness, pike - this, of course, well, not without it, no, it’s understandable and after the pike how much you worked. where did you work? at first i worked in the satire theater there for four or five seasons, then i had such an experimental theater, the dock theater with mikhail ugarov. yeah, then i quit the theater. well, okay, anyway. you have gone into the profession. why did it suddenly pull back into the sky, someone brought it, someone said there is an oracle. how is it all for this?

well, how, uh, how, as they rightly said at the beginning of our program that this is for life does not go anywhere, who once got there. hmm , it's impossible to put into words. and as if this is some kind of unclosed gestalt, as it is now fashionable to say. yes, there is a psychologist, he says, it's all somehow somewhere. i traveled i dreamed about this one, that is, some kind of these figures there, something like that, some kind of flights , i had dreams. well, yes, yes. well, in reality, it 's unlikely, but in a dream, there yes, i vykabluchil. so then i thought, i thought that this was some kind of unfeasible whole story. and because well, i think the flying clubs all fell apart it turns out there is, but i starred. mmm, now in 2006. uh, unfortunately, in the unreleased film the heart of the enemy so

the pilot of the german pilot got to the airfield. i played and gave a piece. but seriously, of course. uh, i ended up at the big gryzlov airfield, where i flew out on my own. actually. here to stand. on what on the fifty-second, no, 52. he sat at the handle without without yes one yes, i am the king of the circle where does it come from 40 hours 27 hours before independent departure 25? who? what psychophysics, but nevertheless, somewhere you they took the pen, which means, well , some of the skachinsky school remained there. well, i flew on the simulator. no, i didn't get to fly. i uh got out of there. here, well, well, as it were, we went through everything, there is piloting, there the arrangement of the aircraft dynamics and and from the iraqlub. i had some knowledge, and then i started.

well, in practice, after filming the film, i met people there. that's what i'm talking about, and i started going to the airfield. oh, of course, i say, and at first, of course, and then i took a pen. yes, about how many hours from the first on your own? we came on in flying club. we sat in the first cabin, probably, after all, they planted it right away. and so you flew off how many hours 10-12-14, but i'm very, well, how to say, far away. i had to drive. it's all the same, that there, 130 km from moscow, i then got by bus. yes, yes, yes, i understand. uh, it's hard to remember now. well, it’s probably 15 hours . maybe i’m asking, it’s not for nothing that every pilot, everyone who is not forgotten for a lifetime, remembers how hammered, somehow, the first independent tattoo, right? how it was it was,

and, in my opinion, the eleventh of march 2.000 the eleventh year or the thirteenth route i do not remember. well. comrade to me. uh, he was driving, well , as if he was flying too. he rode past me. he says what are you doing? i say i'm at home. let's say, get down let's go to the airfield, enough already says it's time for you to fly. but i'm telling you how i can't, i'm not ready yet. he says, let's go, and as he says, he took me by the scruff of the neck and brought me, and he says, all this is my pilot instructor. e, maxim nikolaevich makartsev. he says, come on. and that's it, sit down, really. enough run around the chickens. here. well, of course, we flew tests with him, then he got out. and then you, well, i was worried, of course , you dispersed everyone there in the district, that's where the pants or well, in the sense, dispersed, and

l-410 came up there. so i say, i myself wait, i, and they say, everything, everything, it’s clear. now we 're skipping. here, but the feeling was that time had stopped, because well, you already when e mouth brought out and that's it, and the roads back. no. that's it, you've already left the plane. well it came off ok. well, of course, there at the landing, like, uh, held out, what is called here, but they said that everything is fine, that is, i convedel. how many c grade conversions did three laps, well tail number. 4 5 6 so sel taxied, and you are talking about traditions. yes, of course, well, they gave me a kick in the ass and shook me, and then celebrated. no, this is understandable. this is this feeling. well, i didn't believe at first, because you can tell it with your eyes. e with cat creek.

there is no other way to call it, because you are either in euphoria, or in some kind of uh in a stupor in uh incomprehensible, well, strange a feeling, then it caught up with me, that i realized that i had flown on my own there, because my dream had come true. here, well, then at the beginning of flying aerobatics. but this is impossible to describe in words. seriously , you don't know. that's because it's something incredible. i just had my childhood there and that's all. how much is it you raklu all the memories. i was flying something and somehow i was flying back and looked, and there was no one on the back. because to know someone sits there all the time, says something there, looked. this is what we have also these mirrors, there are these here, yes, i still managed to look at the mirror there, after the second one on the traverse. turned to ask, well

, how could i do that, too, huh? this is a podcast everyone wants to fly, and we continue our conversation with sergey burunov, and it would have remained aeroflobe. yes, yes, well, for some time i flew aerobatics there, they even flew. i remember, but i was terribly afraid of aerobatics with my instructor. that's because he has not let me fly for aerobatics yet. here, yes, it is not difficult not difficult no no straight straight. yes coup yes barrel tub. yes it is clear, well, that, well, the straight line is not inverted, because on the inverted one, that yes people are still a little lost. no, then, uh

, active filming began and i'm afraid of the word dense and it was difficult to combine now, probably, if you are talking about whether i fly or not. not now, because, well, breaks are critical. that's because you have to return everything from scratch again. no, it is clear that there hands remember. yes, because i have, uh, when 2 years ago i finally also came true alone. uh, my dream is also one of here, i'm finally we met svetlana vladimirovna companion. yes, that's just the way it is. you show correctly. this is the top echelon . i hope she gets to sit in this

chair someday. she is a seven-time champion yes, if anyone does not know, be sure to watch her performance, because this is real art, which is amazing. so i saw her for the first time, well, then it was an airfield, tushino is the chkalovsky flying club. i saw her aerobatics in the ninety-first year, this impression was made many years later. see how fate decreed that we got to know her. a documentary film was made about her, but we had already met her before that. and so we flew, of course, it's on this one on the extra, to be honest, did he ask for it himself or did she suggest it? well, how was it filmed? yes, and there it was necessary to fly, you can no, but she says, well, i understand that i also have something, uh, a little, yes, and, as it were, yes, it’s good, and the wasp is right next to me like this that's all. and there you can see it right there, i

put gopro everywhere here, and she’s a soft person, but tough, so she’s a woman on earth, and there and there you will not spoil. she says i'm with love and it's called with love. well , everything was always fine with my vestibular apparatus. that is, like me, but she shook me. moreover, uh, it was a simple aerobatics. but the fact that how hard she does it and somehow masculine, this is 100%, because even in the set we went she once a pen and then. so i changed a little bit, tensed up quite like that, and then not quite like that i saw these shots. yes, then i'm fine. i remembered this brain, of course, but first you have me here the eyes of a cat were already. this is what i was at the beginning of the program, however, it was visible. this

moment, then from kopanin. yes, the world cup. i saw how she is now. i can see it too. uh, it was tension, perhaps the first few minutes, and before the coup to the first roll, half a roll. and then everything, she gave me control. yes, i just i just never flew on the extra. well, as if i could see, they are working on a point, when and i just didn’t know that he had such angular speeds, well, rotation. this is an incredible plane. formula 1. yes, it's simple. well, he reacts there. just for a millimeter loop, we made a coup, uh, we did the barrels. here, she wanted to show me everything abracadabra. i said a second, i am satan. but i promised that i would come. she says i take my word for it. i was watching when i suddenly remembered. and so i

correctly remembered the medical examination for admission to the kacha. it means that he passed the medical examination, yes, that is, so it must be assumed that the psychophysics, the vestibular apparatus was in place. well then , yes, of course, and now because what you were doing in the sky, she correctly said the package did not useful not useful. but then i said something, you ate. uh, well, that's what i'm saying, well, i had something to eat. she says she slept well. well, i did something like this, well, i dozed, what is called there in the evening i came to the hotel so i gave it to me and that's it, and that's why i then go a little on the ground, but i feel it leads me so a little. well , of course, the device. here. this same training is also without it, as you know, i once experienced. this strange feeling is not after aviation, but after weightlessness minutes, probably,

i have over an hour. the cross did not move. i had 10-15 minutes. i'm driving. i understand that i don't know where i'm going. i stopped. walked walking another 20 minutes i drive in any way and only in the evening more or less. it's stabilized getting used to the vestibular apparatus from being trained to say it where were you in weightlessness? and, bitch, astronauts, where does he test when they dive? yes, absolutely right. it was once, the hosts of channel one decided to congratulate the whole country on the new year. i don’t remember, i remember that, yes, of the 12 people we have left, in my opinion, four on the tenth mode is a rather strange feeling. well, you just have to try it. you have experienced it. well, on logging, well, of course, yes, yes, it's a terrible swing. and then, and in two planes, like this, like this

quite right. so oh, up and down, everything goes, negative, overload, positive overload. doesn't matter. you are filming now. happenes. yes? no, well, it's clear, well, the profession of cinema television cinema television radio is there, here i am now actively near the microphone of an audiobook. well, honestly, if you want to take the pen back, you want to take it. i want to i’m only afraid, well, for health a little bit already, i don’t know how it would be for aerobatics, but along the route, i would love to fly. i broke down last january. there is such a very wonderful airfield. eh, new stuff. i don't know, you know, yes, of course, here i am in my time after, but in the flying club i graduated at the fifty-second. and here and uh, went to this person was such an airline. here on hmm

a very good plane. siera, 202 is a wonderful aircraft. uh, all the avionics are equipped, modern everything there, everything you want, everything you want, it's amazing. just after the fifty-second or shares of the xvi - well, how is the future just now, well, probably , well, i don’t want to offend anyone, but still, for training, the flying desk of the yak-18 agrees without a contract. everyone knows stop. i flew on it. i know, well, of course, here on the alarm clock i have learned further already. everything is fine. is it like the mechanics first? yes, well, if it’s clear, and then they say on the machine there, you learned to fly the mi-2, you will fly on a stool. yes? is it true, known history is it true? well and here during the filming on the fifty-second you were yes, imitation of the price, yes, the air was rising. yes, of course, they strengthened the camera between the first and second cabins,

and, in my opinion, even we filmed, it was all filmed. that is, i started it myself. uh, the camera was all wired. here in the front cockpit sat maxim nikolaevich makartsev. we are an instructor pilot, and he performed these air combat figures so that everything would be written off there. here are negative positive overloads, that is, but the shots turned out fantastic, because it's on strings here are these belts, when they hang in weightlessness, it’s impossible not to invent it, it’s impossible to do it. no? you can, of course, but it can be seen just like in perro harbor. yes, remember, this is a movie with ben affleck, yes, how they wield a pen there, well, the plane should have already fallen apart, in theory , simply wings. they just fit together and that's it. what, are they there? uh, it's like this, well , it's clear that they need to play more, what to follow, how it's a professional skill, that's

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delighted. the pilot has a bad grip and he lands a big boeing, in my opinion, even a 737. what kind of movie is this there are many such films. i know now the answer to the question, because to myself to answer this question. i spoke about it. it's been once a week for six months now. i go one and a half to two hours on a boeing simulator and i know how to answer this question. you are a flying person. say, here, maybe a passenger. if anything happens to save the whole plane without experience. well, you have some ass. well, there is, yes, well, i have some idea i have of course, yes. i was also in the gym. uh, here, uh, my favorite aircraft is the a350. you say, here is the pen. horns, and still there will come down tin. yes, i am amazing. so, of course, i must

say that more or less with the experience of an amateur pilot. maybe because, well, the earth will tell you if anything, and in general, there is a system for automatic entry and landing. now it has come to this manually, i don’t know if he can be in such a state of stress, this is psychology, yes, the human factor still works here. well, firstly, this percentage, 80. the imitation is similar, of course, but by 80 percent, but, nevertheless. it won't work in you. i'll do it again, and there there won't be a second time. there won't be a second time, yes, that's why i'm leading after all with all that. let's leave 30 percent for what can happen. what i'm saying is, you and i have both come a long way. small aviation uh-huh i 've been talking, talking and talking about

these little flying clubs. the attitude towards the minor reaction in general is turned on its head. we need to stop treating this like a commercial event. and perhaps the time is coming when i repeat, we must give the opportunity to these flying clubs on saturdays and sundays free children's school. let go bravo agreeing to read my thoughts, because well, uh, i thought about it. thank you very much, because, well, uh, after all, at one time there was dosaaf, flying clubs were free. yes completely free after school. i had everything free for 3 months during the summer holidays. guys, there were houses there, uh, and they flew, and they quite calmly after that, with initial flight training, they entered the civil military flight school for hours after hours. that's what it prevented and to whom i do not understand. we need to

keep our youth busy. and this is a good occupation between the voluntary society for the assistance of the army and navy, which is a bad plus to everything in these flying clubs. well, how are the pilots, eh? uh, the linemen are there, yes the military they think it is. actually, this is a very cool practice of e- piloting skills, because motor skills, right? well , even if this is it, that is, you understand the correction of errors? yes, what i'm talking about is very cool. everything er, how to say complements your skills. that's because that's all, maybe come in handy there, well, flight accidents, when people don’t know what to do, they give the pen away from themselves there, well, that’s all. and good evening. this is very much. and even about this i spoke with islam vladimir company. here, uh, she says, uh, all pilots need this. this should simply be introduced into the training program

so that, uh, so that they fly and piloting on just on such small planes to understand, uh, the mechanics, in general, what happens to the aircraft and even do like this for some critical modes. yes , to fix them. so this is very helps here on aircraft. i don't know if you went through it or not. and our initial training had a system. how to say work on failures on failures? yes , of course, they flew under the curtain, for sure, of course, with the engine turned off. yes, look for a playground and so on, of course, psychos. it is psychophysics that develops motor skills. this is muscle memory. i'm very sad. i believe that i believe that everything will be reborn. i also really believe in it. me too. i also want to go back to saa and have it all available. here, so that it does not cost such this car. well, now it's an expensive pleasure, because it's gasoline, it's routine work. it’s for the equipment there

to pay there and that’s until you get there. this, well, adds up to a round sum. and i think that, well, how should it be accessible? everything needs to be returned, because, uh, yes, because there are a huge number of people who want to fly, and this is hmm , incredibly, cool hobby. and this, firstly, and i know, i don’t know the guys, you know the first flight. yeah, uh, aerobatic team. well, they want to bow low and applaud, because the guys for their money completely disinterestedly created an aerobatic team. i see the condition of their planes, they do it all themselves. uh, everything is done with such love, just right . applause is based on such people, russia it seems to me that, among other things, we will get motivated people, yes, with great motivation. yes, lovers in the sky like this yes age it would, of course, be happiness, so

they are, well, the boys dream. but where what? well, not everyone can afford it. and you will pass, they said that you went to the airbus on the simulator? yes, it feels fantastic. this something incredible was sitting, on the left, on the right they put me. yes, well, yes, a slightly different orientation, but it doesn’t matter, and i adapted very quickly. well, there are 5 minutes. of course, i need to get used to it, because he still has a response. yes, uh, at the sidestick, but i got used to it, but the most important thing is that it's what it's called, it's not a plane, but a highly automated aircraft. he, uh, will never give you. e bugs. uh, well make critical mistakes. that is, if you set five meters per second, how much is 9 m / s vertical speed will hold 9 m / s, set the roll to 15 °, it will hold 15 °. and no matter how hard you try to break it. that's what'll get me. let's

try it. all the same, that somewhere nothing of the kind fell down. i agree, but there is a small percentage of the incident. no, one hundred percent cannot be trusted. of course , you still need to have hands. you have to be able to do it. that's it, god forbid, no doubt, and ours only enter manually, guys, almost always they do not trust, and these foreign foreigners enter automatically. here, and ours in uh, they only come in manually, but it worked out. landing yes, we are now talking for people who do not know this, variations land, but it happened. yes, well, not immediately for the first time, of course, i flew over and a little bit about the planet. eh, airy. yes, of course, yes, and then, well, there was something below the wheel, yes, and then

already, well, they even applauded me a couple of times. yes, even to me, well, he was with me a man there, in my opinion, the leadership. he said that you can see experience is, as they say, you won’t drink it. yes, but the plane is fantastic martin. it's just that, and 350 is something fantastic. until now, there is nothing. women's trainers. there are superjets, there is a simulator. i saw something else like that, and there, e ms-200, i saw ms-2. i 'd like to go there, but it was sealed. they also tested it there, but now with the help of channel one, i would really like to. yes, they put me on 350. let's go for other types okay? he says come until you forget something.

now i would like to go to a darodrome. yes of course, of course not. there is in this. eh, incredible stuff. i remember hmm uh it was some day like that summer. i did something. here on the field. i watched and in the air someone twists aerobatics in this incredible some kind of peace and rapture. this is something impossible to write the word cannot be. that's when you look, yes, yes, well, no, you just look there , a small airplane flies, the sky, there these grasshoppers are old or lying, and that's it. and there is something from childhood in this, right? my

instructor on the mi-2 has such helicopters from all over the world, and he is on the midva on an old mi-2 and they, yes, i applaud them all over the world. the whole world and will also come here. i agreed. ruta will come to harry and sveta kopanina will come perfectly. i really want our conversations. about aviation, someone was brought into this profession , so i want there to be more of these people. if it were, perhaps, i understand that all this is invented and probably this will never happen, but i really want children to be lifted into the sky at least once, so that they look at this beauty from above. harrison ford you know, yes, sam teaches children for his completely free travolta yes, he has a boeing, he talks himself

man comes. well, yes, i want our boys and girls to want to be cosmonaut pilots. flight weather to you thank you and a million to a million, dear passengers , our flight is completed. i hope this time passed unnoticed and with pleasure for you. i am monitoring pilot leonid yakubovich and piloting pilot sergey burunov say goodbye to you. i wish you all the best, good luck and happiness in heaven and on earth. let's remember dad again. your friends have been searched.

those who never returned. didn't make it home a little. he was a strict man funny. he somehow tells me, tomorrow get up at 6 in the morning. well, this is in the summer holidays , i set the alarm clock, i woke up, somewhere there without ten. i went out onto the balcony , suddenly at low altitudes at a speed of probably 700. i don’t know, maybe 600. this is a podcast of letters, today i have georgy ivanovich burkov’s wife tatyana and

georgy ivanovich’s daughter maria, who is with such trepidation with such tenderness with such reverence with such respect, does not allow anyone to forget the wonderful dad of the most worthy person. i don't know the best of the best actor you don't even imagine can you imagine how glad i am to see you, we met there, dear 40 years ago, yes, horror on the set of cruel romance. i remember such a beautiful young woman who came up to me with tears in her eyes and said, i'm afraid there are such actors around, such a beauty. don't be afraid, you're not afraid of anything. and you know what was amazing, but georgy ivanovich was an extraordinary storyteller , extraordinary. well , they all had such an experience behind them, and nikita mikhalkov and andrei myagkov, the deceased, and they all the time gathered and georgy ivanovich or someone from

told them to a bike. i didn't laugh so hard. they didn’t want to be in this cell so much, and they didn’t want to warm these ears like that, and they chased me like that all the time, because i should be in character. i have to be demanding all the time. and i was so interested in what georgi ivanovich was telling, and i would run right there like this. listen to us go. yes, like everything, yes, they chased me all the time and not like that, and i so wanted to also impress georgy ivanovich on everyone. and our neighbor then came from the army did not come escaped and hanged the kingdom of heaven to him. i came up and said. and our neighbor hanged himself, that for some reason such a fool joined, i wanted to. so maybe looking for the impression that you didn't tell me about some good one. come to us. you will also listen and participate. there were good times , there were good times. remember from the christmas tree, very very good artists around the time is good and

absolutely amazing guzeeva of course. oh well, okay, now it’s not about me, but do it anyway. tell me please. that's when vasya rateli both little tanya which 17 years you had will give georgievich a difference, no, 13, how old were you when he left, when he was gone, 44, that is , by today's standards, this is, uh, a young woman who is ready to get married for the first time and the parents of the child. i didn’t feel like that today, i didn’t even imagine myself how i could disappear in marriage to leave something like that, in general , a man couldn’t imagine anything else. but then let's digress into the past look when you met. you were 18 years old. yes? i lied that i was 21. that's how i added everyone subtracts. i told you that he

is 15 years old, well, 40 kg, and his height is a meter yes 56, somewhere around a meter 40 kg. this one's girls on a stick are hot, right? yes, so who saw whom first? yes, but i kind of saw it, yes, in the theater at the blackboard, the schedule, but roughly speaking , i didn’t immediately see it, but they showed it, m-m young actors were sitting all this is yours. well, they laughed. he was so funny it was impossible. it’s just that these little glasses are like this red sweater, but there’s no such thing, he had a purple jacket in a mother’s check and looked. so this whole schedule is like that. well that is, no. don't don't don't don't don't don't care that i don't care for you trying anyway we feel that this is my man. yes? you are dying. yes, when it happened to you, when i can’t say right away. that's what i had right away. no, it wasn't right away

, it wasn't right away. well, it was different. for some reason i'm all laughing. and for some reason, i left with him. this is some kind of feeling i can’t, what happened? maybe i'll explain it now, i can't be you, that's all. there was a man, by the way, he was just a man-man until the last days. someone even came up with this legend about his ugly. i don’t know for me, he is absolutely naked sex with these lips with these olive eyes, tall and slender. and to me, you are just two uh sexy people that they couldn't be together. well, if you are watching today, yes, it means that he saw you first and said, come with me tan, well, he didn’t say that with his eyes, what happened? and we went together. well, we went for a long time for 2 months. gotta get it down with all the fact that we were there, and he was there for money from my mother. he begged for some money and took me to prague, that's where i said on my birthday, when i said that i have 21, and i need to turn less in a year, then and

then, we went into this there. hmm , there were also some wine and everything, and still we went hand in hand. and then one unexpected day it happened, that's what we are talking about now, he turned out to be so simple in general, and belmondo you already knew then that i had such everything pasted over, and he told you, let's go to me, i'll show you, how i live no ah what they came by chance and was with us. another actor was terrified of him, where he rented a room somewhere on the bauman wreck nearby in the room, when he was drunk it was very unclear who he was. my name is a girl from a good family. yes, it's pure clean work. i have been in the theater since i was 15 years old. well, i don't know something. here came a vicious 19-year-old girl. do you want to, yes, how do you want to talk? well, as a matter of fact , she came, but not alone with me was the secretary of the organization itself, and they made me, of course,

who fled from this one. rooms, when we entered his room, it was even clean there was yogurt from a book, a very funny room. and uh, that’s what we entered, but we had already had a little drink there, he noted, there he received some kind of extras of his ruble 50, and we went in there and our secretary immediately faded away and he didn’t like the neighborhood, he was afraid that there was some kind of then the scandal will be something and a drunk person came out of there. here, who asked him a room there, and he means to me, he says, let's get out of here quickly. now there is some kind of scandal, and i read it remained. and why until the morning, right? and it happened so instantly that's about that's love. listen to the goosebumps, listen to the skin , well, there were no signs at all, it was and you, the girl tanya, who didn’t spend a single night, didn’t come home in her girl’s room, poor parents come in the morning. he said marry

me, i said yes. and then he said he loves. uh, some milk. with cocoa , or something, some kind of pro used to sell his iron grandmother, and i went and bought milk and then called my grandmother and said, i was with you. she didn't resist, holy brink, lies, began. yes, and what to do, as i explain, and the day of the wedding comes to give. yes, but there were no parents, because there is no one not yours or his. tell us about your first meeting with his mother. well, why wasn't she? yes, yes, it was very it was very terribly nightmarish and funny. it's so funny to me now. no , it’s funny now, then i don’t think it ’s in the throat for a nineteen-year-old child. i was so in love that somehow my mother seemed to me not so terrible, but i seemed to her already terrible, completely different from you. meet. we meet at the first level , i have such pigtails. well, such tied ones

were 40, like 40 kg. yes, and it’s funny to say, but my mother sent her son to moscow . the artist of the great, who went through the whole province there, played and to say that his mother loved him , adored him, in general, this is fatal. yes, yes, and she, at least he's there, uh, getting married. well, i don't know who. well, yes, well, i don’t know, well, yes, vertinskaya, yes, yes, a beauty, of course, so portly, as she herself was such a whole meal, as she sees it. here she is, probably i saw horror. i guess i was not so terrible, but she saw the nightmare and we walked in silence, she hugged him. and what did you say to him? and i went ahead. i understood, i didn’t even just say hello, and then, when we had already arrived home. i would say it's either me or one. i mean, i have a letter. can i apply? well, it was written much later, but it's his yes, oh, love and bond with his mother. by the way, he didn’t deny it, he just called it so strongly that i was a sissy, right?

my dear, mommy, you know that limitless love for you, my mother, who gave birth, raised me and just for a person worthy of respect and admiration for the mind , decency, kindness and a lot of other wonderful qualities. know that love for you has always lived and will live in me until the end of my days i am proud and i will always be proud of you. i want to be in my life worthy of you and love you and miss you. i constantly think about you and you know , i would never have become an actor if it weren’t for you and they praise me it’s for what you put into my soul by you your wrinkles your gray hair planted heart. here is my school. here are my universities, everything from word to word. i could repeat to dad, because you are one for me, you are my home. you are my land, you are my homeland, you are my soul. lord, what a gentle,

what a loving what a wonderful son, then he became the same wonderful father to a crazy wonderful husband. and when this happened , the truce with your mother-in-law was not soon, but she arrived, well, she looked at her granddaughter. she immediately left, and i scribbled these diapers myself. diaper night, well, it must be said that everything there were difficult relationships with her, but man, she was complicated, but very good, and he loved the good ones for a reason, and he found some moments. he loved her loved me and we never had sharp corners with her. and i don’t understand what love is for my son, when georgy ivanovich said that you are one organism, a whole, and he loves you endlessly. she had to accept. she didn't realize she was causing him so much pain. the wildest thing he is, i'm after them. yes, he told

her right away, mom. i love you. i don't like it. i i do not want to lose her to you, but she will remain. these were the words when she left, now to perm, but then she seems to me, she is still inside. she was just such a person, she can not show that she resigned herself to something there. but if you jump over all this like this and say that she was dying in my arms after seven years, she was gone. e, georgievich and she was there all the time. well, it might say something, and she was dying right with such kindness in her eyes, masha left with kindness , and how old were you when you were left without father, 24, well tell me how lucky you are with your daddy article stopped lucky. i think that just a sock was lucky that i even had to be kicked out of my house. some of the years were difficult. i am a home child absolutely home not spoiled child. that's what i even understand, now that's how they didn't have time at all. it's like i didn't

have it, well, every evening after the performance, he always found it. here i am small and he played. well tickled me. we came up with some kind of fairy tales for me, that is, here insanely tired, as it were, i will definitely read it now. do you have this letter with a picture? therefore, you will show okay , masha, now mom and dad disperse at the subway in different directions every morning, even the sun is surprised and surprised. his eyes widen. dad goes to the sovremennik theater and mom goes to the stanislavsky theater, but when they get together in the evening she misses you, but that was the time when he was born, he accidentally worked in modern times. yes, nothing more is needed in life. he loved such happiness. and how much you ladies? this is the same letter that i read,

only it was written by the hand of georgy ivanovich yesenin, i drew it in perm as i said. after this letter, you will make him an offer of the hand of the heart. i somehow already, when i started to think something, and you can immediately think, it became immediately in love. i loved him very much and for me somehow it was something more than dad. this is something so big and mine and my favorite. and so, when i was already a little older, i began to say that in the elevator, and he was so shy, it was crazy. that's and i said like that, well, if some snot is eight years old there is seven, how long i will marry you, and now i remember how he reacted. he's so mashenka. you have to ask your mother, he dumped it on his mother all the time. no, well, of course, what to say, but for the car. i think the first love of a daughter is always

with girls. this is her father, of course, with the departure of her father, she generally has a life. as if, i ’m even very worried, she completely lost the platform , she lost some kind of walking from under her feet say , uh, zhorik was born, and under georgy ivanovich or, unfortunately, no, yes, just like dad dreamed that i would have a child. well, so that , uh, my mother asked me to start me with my husband. this is how he doesn't like it. well, of course he knew. and what did i like? just such a father's jealousy, or there were objective reasons, there were reasons. well, he was always right. he has a reason , he already sees everything at once, saw each other at once, and well, who listens to us parents? no, of course, some kind of stupidity parents. so, uh, zhorik was born. dad did not become in the ninetieth, and the zhurik for the ninety-second and in the same hospital where in

what place hmm where did you give birth in june with your husband? tanya, you're not married, are you? no, it didn't work out that way. officially, there is no such bar. i have one husband. i feel like he's still around. this is very good stirlitz is promising. keep in check, and find out firmly the check is a film that you can watch

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tie up the symptoms of a cold with high returns and earn as they are install the tinkoff investment application and earn the largest social network for investors. he is so alone. my name is larisah. tanyurochka, my little one, i kiss you in the black gypsy eyes. now i know that we found each other something from the miracle we have with you difficult love, then real. ta-m, but happiness, what kind of life is this? you understand that until the last breath. you have something to live because you have such memories

, you understand, for the sake of this it made sense to be born. i just remember that it was a very difficult period. here tell me, please, not just like saying yes is difficult or love is hard hard. ah, i received such letters, when masha was born when we lived in a hostel, that is, i was left alone with her. and zhora left the trolls without me for the first time. well, it was hard to argue. no, no one helped me . parents in the corners, no one alone with a small child. nothing at all. i just had hungry days. and these letters that he wrote to me on tour. i even understood everything. i was starting to get angry that he didn’t send any money there, that i want to eat here. it’s just elementary, but there wasn’t any at all. uh, there were such yes, and i'm taking this letter. and now i even remember,

somehow i read read, read read. and it seems that my girlfriend already wants to eat. waiting for him when he arrives, very funny not jealous. after all, you are his oh yes, i will wash myself, i am such a property. well, how well done you are, in the eyes of the beholder , everyone saw ugly people. this one saw that he is perfect, that he is infinite beauty. yes, i'm everything. it seemed to me that all the women around here. right now, the crowd will follow him. they walked. so i don’t go pig, then, when he became famous. well, how would they tell me some kind of cunning how you were generally cunning. yes, he is nikola not a yard ruble 50, there was nothing jealousy, there was jealousy. yes, i remember, he even has a scratch on my cheek. one well, as i say, the owner is young. here he is. he is my husband, which means that i should know everything, every minute

he was somewhere, but it takes me a long time. continued, because he made me very quickly understand that this was not possible, and i quickly understood it. and now the scratch, which has already gone down in history, he starred there and was so proud of it that this is the only thing now, you probably turn away. yes, when i look, but i look with pleasure. now jealous. yes, so seriously, he never showed views, but when he died, and i, uh, was able to read these diaries, and when i compiled the book, i found everything there. this is a creepy post. i sobbed so. i cried so much and thought, what a bastard i am, how could i behave like that to lead, and he writes in detail, how is he, what he experienced at some point when he came to the performance there. something there , how many years after his death were you able to read? well, i have read this. well, right away , probably right away. i immediately wondered

what that was all and that's why i'm already somewhere in 91 second. i already have it all. i started to collect all these notes. these were tiny records separately, and then i saved it. yes, not even half is never so difficult to work with. i just remember how one actress is quite famous. she just came up to me at some creative evening, she hugged me and said, tanka food, you can’t even imagine how much i envy you that for so many years he was your husband. he is like this. i was so proud too, although i don’t know what is pleasant, but georgy ivanovich never, during or after his bad fame, he was a worthy person, and you are chaste and shy, and the fact that you don’t have these spots that doesn’t come to you, illegal. born children that

they come do not call. women don't tell you what he had in parallel there's a family somewhere, you know? no, here is the most worthy in everything. and how he left such a memory of himself and they say, a bright memory. here is a blessed memory. yes, what should you look for? well, on the other hand , a kiss, of course, would have been a worse husband, and you would have been already attached. well, yes, i know that i will die, as everyone will not live forever, not literally not in a figurative sense, and the saddest thing is that in old age you will understand how you really need to live, but there is no longer an opportunity to replay again in life. no need to set up. we live among people, we will be born, like everyone else, but why are we artists? why should we be responsible for everyone? i am an artist. i burned myself by vocation for the sake of people feeling covered with strong moss, you can’t

break through it. maybe one artist, he is alive, but he is a suicide bomber. have pity on him. understand it. he goes to his death. for you. for everyone. everyone has learned to speak, holy words are not easily protected by an artist. he believes that he is believed, he loves and eats, pretending to be a lot of them, but the artist is alive until you take care of him , life and you will go with him. everything is correct, absolutely everything. make sure, of course, but he came across when a that's how things were, when he didn't drink about what he drank, he drank, but when it suits you, the partner in the theater threatens you with his finger. so look, zhora we're going on

tour. you are zhora, who wasn’t such a worthy alcoholic at all, because he couldn’t stand it, he didn’t, yes, he did it, then he turned to me and said, buy a bottle. well, it hurts, and who were these artists, don’t worry, who they themselves were, yes, who could . could they threaten this with a finger? i know this is tanya , you understand, what kind of zhorik is he to you zhorik you first lasted how long zhorik read here. you first gain your mind at once, dissolve your soul, because here is zhorik whose finger is this here. they banned it , and then you know how something like this will become attached to an actor. you won’t wash off later, you won’t get rid of it, yes, you don’t need to shoot, because there’s only one artist about me, yes, and they asked a question. and the truth is that, well, there they drink guzee. well , listen, we are friends, what i will tell you about her. well, see for yourself, well, it's not scary

to take it off. well, i love her any, you know? here i am at least one filming someone he will say that at least one day the shooting was interrupted. i ’ve been late for a minute, sometime, but once i’ve already become attached. this one will never wash off, you understand? well, of course, no one could hurt him, do you understand? here is it, for example, despite how much he drank. i think that nikita sergeevich mikhalkov drank no more and no less, but he would have the appearance and become and the origin of some sergeevich who you ever dared to , kindness or something they accepted it, yes, about their resentment of an actor. can't people really understand my acting theme, not even the theme, but the method, rather , both, if i revolve the performance, anna drinks all the time and that's it. time is active. this does not

mean that i decided to make the viewer laugh and that's it. no a thousand times. no, i'm talking about the struggle for human dignity, and human talent. no matter how deformed, no matter how corrupted he may be, if i overtook myself with psychological complexity or ambiguity? i would be read, but i don't want to be thinness readable. i don’t want to designate a living person with primitive theatrical badges , we live and only live, in no case should we squeeze a living person into the image he played brilliantly. this first work in the theater was a reba, while he did not have a higher acting education. and he acted in films, played in the theater, a nugget tells me about this, he did not have an acting school, when they taught this technique, the encyclopedic was such, as it were, education. it's just that he wrote to me there, what is there to say, uh, all sorts of essays, while i

i went to college, now i'm not afraid to talk. he er, in general the person was very educated anya around. they are an educated person. they would not gather in a circle. i say it again, nikita sergeevich and petrenko, they all adored him, but they didn’t, because they are good jokes. well, you're funny, you know, it would be about the clown, by the way, i remembered the story when you were young and very poor, but there was already a rumor in moscow, that you are so funny talented, and it was a pity there was nothing. tell me how you were invited to parsley company is something funny for food. yes, yes, yes we once in some company of artists. e, we were sitting there, the artists were just familiar and in the process he began to tell something, well, about the dog and everyone calmed down and it was so interesting. here, i tell it, everyone began to laugh, simply. well, and then already tipsy. they made me say something too. and i only had

a swearing tower. how to tell a fable at school. it was generally indecent, but since my appearance was very decent and not everyone laughed like that. well, it's simple and that's it to transfer us, as if from the hands of some of our acquaintances. calls are already becoming. there, pasha said that they were visiting. pasha said. are you coming with us going? there will be good company there, there will be something, i say let's go, we don't have money, we'll devour him, so it happened several times, but then we became friends with everyone, it was already so funny. they fed us. there was a difficult period. masha and whose character do you have more than mom's or dad's? here, tell this story, how you, standing up for dad, attacked a nurse. oh my pastel story, but i tell it among my own, of course. he abruptly, of course, will tell, but he ended up lying in myasnikovsky, the institute of cardiology was sent there and immediately put in intensive care. in short, that we

went straight crazy, because the father is in intensive care, what is it, and we could only come to him, we were allowed to see him by the doctors. well , somewhere it was already closing all the same, there and downstairs at the checkpoint i was sitting. this one in a red wig is like this, well, as usual, here are the women. not young and said that you came moved late. a now, if you don’t manage it in 5 minutes, then i won’t let you in anymore. well, we somehow yes yes yes, yes, yes, we did not expect that she, here we are , yes-yes-yes, that she will do it, and he came out to us. i just bit my cheeks so bloody. it's simple, because he came out so green all over with these wires. and that's where the ear was heard. what in general it was no one. he was so we were just medicine for him, and suddenly it flies. eh, aunt, aunt. why are doctors silent? how

he yells, and moreover, he yells at his father. i have seen directly. here it is from him to you. you will no longer see in your relatives. i'm just quoting verbatim. dad almost cried. he says, wait a what a why its become already. mom, come on, i'll take everything. come on, we’re really there, that’s all, but i saw, he just walked right here, i think if he’ll get all this on strings, so it’s bright with me right here, as if some kind of curtain was some kind of anger of some kind of anger creepy. absolutely. i think mom will pick it up now. i already somehow and there are huge these flights of stairs are huge. well the building is like that. so my mother collected it, which means that this is ours, let's go, and we just went in. here's the flight of stairs. i don't remember myself. i grabbed her robe against the wall like this, well , there's some kind of scum, because if he was just pyotr sergeevich, you

understand from the fifteenth motor depot. why would she need to find out? and she, probably, all her life tells her wife came. and what is an artist? i said five minutes and that's it and you never see us again, i said. well, how to rise against the backdrop of the great show your disgusting power, you know, i hate it more than just two girls, i was terribly offended. i asked. i say, yes, she simply could not take me away, because my aunt ran upstairs. there, the doctors are crazy , i need her for her, so there mom me. well, it was. well, that's all the car has. well, i draw all this, i cry later, and they just need a daughter. if these were obloids, yes, burkov's daughter made a scandal . oh, girls, and there is no one to intercede

, right? they also made me apologize. she did not apologize to her. here, well, in the doctor's office she said, i broke down. yes, well, there was a reason, that's on dad. the main thing is that it did not affect. it doesn't. they are also vengeful. i asked the doctor to talk to her there. i say call immediately. how could he possibly die. now it's not as secure as telling everyone what she wrote about. therefore, when he left, he knew that he was leaving, who needed him. i was at his hospital the night before. he escorted me out so that i could go home after the operation for a day, and he, well, so that i could go home for a shower there, well, something so rested. i didn’t go, and suddenly he started talking to me in a strange way , began to say things that, in general, he could not say for anything. i suddenly realized

that something is wrong, something is not necessary, and i say already, calm down. what is great health? yes, stop forgetting, i asked for forgiveness for everything. yes, there for some very important things. yes, even, well, it means that they were important for him, so he lived with this pain. and here he is, and as if i had already come home, i think something is wrong. well something's wrong and i'm straight in the morning rushed early and all. understood, it means to look at me. all these in the elevator are strange, well , the actress larisa, you know how it happens? we all feel at once that something is not right, these looks are not right, how strange it is, they said hello. all i went to the room. everything was already collected there. well, it was not the end yet, he ended up in the intensive care unit of cardiology and in dentistry in cardiology. well , tanya didn’t become him there by the evening. what do you regret most of all. well, in general, we parted a little,

and i went to the shooting all the time, he is with me, yes, and now i regret that we still parted, where was it once why did he go to sovremennik for a season it was difficult this time and why are we doing this for some reason? why do you need? now, of course, do not return. you are so sorry, and lost some days of months, it's true mash and you offended him. yes , the teenage period was a terrible terribly character, all these some kind of complexes of their own. well, it’s all at home, i didn’t want you to go to acting, i didn’t want to say happiness, my daughter is entering. she acted herself, no one

called, no one said anything. but you ask dad's forgiveness for something. for not obeying, well, m-m, in the main thing, in the main thing, i believed, well, look at something here, well, you see , i believed, it’s good to obey, it’s bad, because if a girl always obeys her mother, father, grandmother, grandfather, then she will obey the boss's husband, the neighbor's girlfriend, and so on, therefore, as smart parents. they note at home that yes, nerves shake. but here's what you don't listen to ezah, it's good. you heard him. look, she saved the letters of the note. you understood this love and accepted it yourself gave, tell me, and the son looks like georgievich , the most interesting thing is that in manners like

behavior, blood is not found in girls. well, he's right here, i don't know where. he is truly a mother. i can't really cry. when i see him, he even fits. like this. quiet, it will do, that's when it will start moving. what happiness to you zhora his georgy ivanovich sent the girls to novova. you can say that you are absolutely happy women. no, i can say that i am happy, because the lord is here for me. i don’t know somehow it happened that this feeling of love. yes, i received it. well, maybe this is a meeting. here with zhora, this feeling just appeared, but it is still this all-encompassing feeling of love. but today you feel that he is with you. now that he is protecting you. yes , they didn't stop. i mean, we were, of course , for a while. just here in this life. that's generally outside, that is, it's some kind of not even

stress. and it’s as if we were just cut into pieces, cut into pieces, so many more i want to remember everything and read and talk. i think that you will still come, girls, yes, and we will talk, true, and in connection with georgy ivanovich, you just chat. thanks larisa. thank you mine. actually it was a podcast of writing. my name is larisa guzeeva, and i have two wonderful guests maria burkova and tatyana burkova thank you. this is a podcast of the psyche. my name is natalya loseva i am a journalist, and my co-host clinical psychologist, candidate of psychological sciences mikhail khors, today our heroine came to us with a problem that i like

seems typical of so many of her peers. well, in any case, i came across quite a lot of such stories, and this does not beg this story in any way, on the contrary , it increases its importance. hello tatyana . with what you came to tell us, i compare myself with other guys with painfully successful guys with those with whom we started, in principle, compare together not in your favor, but objectively not in your usefulness. it's just that there are objective indicators, for example, the number of sales of a profession, and the number of subscribers. that is some such resources. that is, measurable, as they say? yes, yes, and the problem is that when i compare, i don’t have a desire, but to do more, and i’m the opposite. i lie down in some kind of apathy.

and why then start, why then start and somehow a dialogue in my head? i still can't do it. you think, well, i probably don't even think about whether it will work or not. i just have all my energy that could be used, it just drops, and then i don’t do anything at all. can do. how old are you now 27 , 27. and when this discomfort began. this is the reaction to someone else's success. uh, self-comparison, apathy. follow-up. uh, probably with the advent of social networks, where i began to notice how others develop. and i'm developing, as they show? how they develop. in fact, how do they develop, right? and you have never heard and mikhail you also heard when they are friends about such a syndrome there is such a form, this is the english abbreviation owl of missing auth, that is, the feeling that i seem

to fall out of this syndrome, it says that on the one hand, that we are watching all the time. what is happening there, it worries us very much, but on the other hand, it is being formed against the background of other people's demonstrated successes. i specifically emphasize this word, we get the feeling that i somehow missed this opportunity, time, some chances. i'm not like everyone in the worst sense. so that you simply understand that what you are describing today, and it seems to me, michael this is very, very important. it's just this generation's sickness and sickness. it's in time. great. why did you start talking about it? and tell me about such a bright case, which wounded you right here and knocked you off your feet, but not that he directly knocked me off my feet. i adjusted and i stopped coming in and looking. and this is my friend. veronika and i. hmm, together, in

fact, we started from the hostel. in what sense, well, in a professional state to develop, that is, we had equal conditions. yes, we lived in a hostel, she, of course, a little older. and what do you do, and i, uh, am a defectologist correcting children, right? uh-huh she e now started selling her services through social media like private educators, huh? or are you too? she started as a private and i started as a private too. i continue. basically, as private, she began to gather groups, then gather groups of parents, then a to collect mentorship for a group of parents. and uh, selling it all through social media and it's grown very much in revenue very much. here you can argue, firstly, because remember

the word objectively and characteristics sounded. yes, but they didn’t look at the current account or be guided by what she told you or what she shows in herself completely shows what she has in social and what she tells and what she shows and did not look at any of her expenses . in general, some kind of travel somewhere, distant lands, where we don’t ask for an expensive apartment for an apartment again. yes, veronica’s merit is quite, perhaps she earned it herself, and it’s just that that when we believe for sure that what people tell us and show us is real , if we can’t check it in any way, then a small question mark under this