e was seduced by some barchik, for example, and this resulted in some unpleasant stories and even in the main story of the dark alley cycle, dark alley. he is just such a meeting, when the barin meets an eyed, when you are with him, and a woman later , uh, many years, yes, there are countless and she is already natural in age, but he remembers her beauty and then she enters into a conversation with him and tells that her heart was broken. she was very unhappy that he ruined her life, that she still loves him, and in general, it pops up in his memory, yes, and it's an adventure and he's at the end when he's in the carriage. hmm, remembering, he understands that it was still a misalliance, and she would never have been able to become a mother, his children and other exits were not unpleasant for him. yes, when you meet, uh, seductively once women began, he says, you ruined your life. and i agree that, but here is also the moment that the peasant

community was even more religious of course, such girls. they were stigmatized for the most part, and they weren't free any more, and hmm, they hit trapped by and large because, well, what a dream girl. yes, that's the one, if we are talking about scenarios, yes, the same cinderella scenario well, it's eternal by and large, they all dreamed of getting married. you know they all represent that love won stand, anyone wins. well, unfortunately, it is not. this is for them, by and large, a psychological trauma. and and if we look from the point of view of medicine, but on things, then this is post-traumatic stress syndrome. the sad fate of peasant women veins of serfdom, yes or how, and this is a little. yes, the abolition of serfdom is after you and after, because if we, uh, consider the period that

bunin describes, it turns out to be the very beginning of the 20th century at that time, probably, psychology remained until the twenties, that is, uh- e slavery was abolished, but the psychology remained all the same here in this social hierarchy, that is, you abolished slavery, and relations were never preserved by the earth to people. uh-huh seryozha tell me please, in principle, about the people who emigrated about these white officers about this among the representatives, who was bunin, and some of its features, because it is clear that this is both orthodoxy and a monarchy. yes, some features of the psychological social. tell us more about it, please, to us, well , to unite it, perhaps, is possible only by the fact that they were forced to flee. this is the first and second. this is a general understanding rather than such nostalgia. it was expressed in completely different ways by different representatives of this society, but since they were in favor there, in certain cities, the same, that is, there is paris, but there is no money, which is right there

while there were young conditional migrants. there is also boris poplavsky, who earned money there as a driver, and wrote at night, lying all or borisaviks, who then returned and wanted to sparkle. uh, the communist system, but at the same time gippius was also considered a close friend of budding writers. they lived in the past, roughly speaking, they tried through this past. yes, through this past bring hope for the future, and they lived very introverted and believed their ideas. well, what is this growth, it can somehow be preserved and continue the tradition that they carried with them from this atlantis drowned forever, because there was no more of this aristocracy. yes, this social system was nothing because of their past. yes , at the same time, again, if we take bunin conditionally, then this is a representative of such a hardened immigration, that is, he is not quite the same, roughly speaking, such a post of a turgen. and you know the wipe, when here is the estate and so on, you are already leaving with a name. you don't leave like so many

others. you do not leave the region as an author when he emigrated, by the way, yes, he received the first fame and all the pushkin prizes , as for this the translator flirted with the symbolists and perhaps it was his perception of poetry that shaped his prose, but, because they are especially dark alleys in terms of concentration of density. yes, here, for example, take a beauty. that is, as it were, well, there really is not. yes , there really is no plot, there is what the poet does, roughly speaking, he dissolves some kind of reality and collects from symbols. here is a very dense very compressed something and you are already, in the course of reading. do you understand what is behind it? what was the other for? eh, how can i describe it. this is the white guard idea. they wanted to carry the real russia as they imagined it. here, but they wanted the past, or try to fit in these little ones. mugs with the hope that they will return there, or somehow modernize it.

and from all this, from these attempts at games, with the past, they all repelled, and here there were several exits, and there was a very mesotherapeutic exit to score everything there and try, as it were, to call for the destruction of the universe, as ivanov did in some verses, that is, such cynicism is isotropism. and there was a way out to try to come to terms with this and return here, too, to national bolshevism, which was then born. it is also a reaction to this loss of soil. yes, you were someone. and yet i'm in the camp and you 're trying. yes, there the ustrels are trying to offend, the vekhovites are trying to unite the change. here are some historical uh narrative logics of the development of imperial russia and the soviet one and see this as one big project. and many tried to return and returned to the same, for example, vertinsky, as far as i know. bunin was offered to return, but he turned out to be, and this, by the way, is the most curious and it is curious, and in the spirit of his work of these dark alleys, because bunin is a man of such timelessness who is lost in him in well, yes, that is, what is he, in principle,

they mainly present that you have not created any image that you could cling to. you don't have your own schismatic. you don’t have tolstoy’s characters, yes, who are dying looking at the sky, and sagittarius agrees that he managed to create the image of russia, the image of the motherland, that is, maybe there is no one character, but this e world. eh, here you are of a noble life. there are many scriptures there. and you are their moments. he outlined his condition. that is, precisely because he poetizes prose, he is a person not a state, not a narrative, and uh, this is the worst thing, because when you don’t have this roughly speaking ideological core or even hatred there is strong. this is central hatred there is no such attitude towards women cynicism. i don't even know in relation to reality rather. well, you seem to be that he just describes it in strokes and that is why he probably refused

to immigrate. that is, how would you mean vichy france? yes, yes, vichy france - what is it? where he wrote the dark time, an under-occupied state, it is not clear who controls it, it is not clear what you live on such a piece of timelessness . that is why, in order to gain at least some understanding of time, he turns to the past. he also began to write this life arseny you, too , emigration, the life of arseny in the novel of the kayan and the days, by the way, are probably the most emotional a stir, because he wrote exactly at his word, but in dark alleys. it seems to me that he explores the topic of relationships and its completely different layers. that is, relatively speaking, he runs away. it seems to me from uh some problems just when you find yourself in timelessness. you know, like a man from dostoevsky’s underground, you have nothing but a description of yourself and these states, and then you can’t even return, because he said, in my opinion, but, well, as it were, and who i am such? well i'm

used to living in france something i don't feel like everyone is already dead. yes, leave me alone , and at the same time, it’s like such a journey again, he even has the image of the road, the image of the fact that it is the sphere of love that supports him. that is, it works. he is looking for support in this area. he cannot find her. this is evidence of his, roughly speaking, such a defeat, including, because all these relationships end either with regret about something that has passed away, or with the fact that some emancipated girls cruelly abandoned him, or there, i, as it were, oh, what did she get , better. i will think of a beautiful peasant woman. as if. well, what a pity that we are not together. it seems to me that this is a matter of perception of the environment, that is, people moved everything, well, from their usual environment. completely different and for obvious reasons, they really took some scraps of the past and they served them as a support for their subsequent development. some of them just got used to it. yes, and go further there

pasternak and someone just got stuck. as you rightly said, exactly in that part of the environment that they brought, and they could not simply integrate it into the environment that was at that moment in time, because the era of change. it's not only they that turn out to be an era of variable, and then also military operations. yes, one way or another, this is, well, a rather stressful situation and a person, of course, clings to what he understands is familiar and he does not want to leave this, maybe often invented world, often tied to some kind of sensual sphere because, well, she is one of the most i am alone the most real yes , situations when the world is changing, when the world is changing, and the person is watching. inside myself trying to find support. and now, if we're talking about poets on this one, as the people who described the space through them here is the feeling of the state.

this mixed sensual environment is their fulcrum by and large, therefore, in the fact that it leaves as soon as you create one work, as if, if the experience is not turned into text, it does not even become the past, as the rapper read the words cpsu and you have some tight concentrations. but bunina she always ends with some kind of defeat, roughly speaking erotic , including connected with his first, in my opinion, any, maybe there's a story here, it's a story about what he had. and the love that came to him, but it could not stand the craving of everyday life, as far as i remember, yes and no, this is also connected with his first work in the oryol province. yes, she will not stand it said e dear. i'm leaving to live normally in life. here it is, like the first experience always leaves its mark. yes, such imprinting is largely assimilated and projected onto all subsequent relationships, but at another time

such a work could have taken shape in a different historical context. in such longing for for the homeland for the beautiful russian women , it seems that longing is a parody, it has no reference to time. it is tied to the personality of the situation. yes, to the situation. is it possible to say like this? for example, uh, there's a lot of criticism right now. i hear in the direction of the artists that why you do not reflect the current situation? why don't you react to what is happening? it seems to me that bunin is darker. this is just a wonderful example of how a person, when there are really some historical cataclysms around, he takes and writes an erotic prose is completely without time, and time and people who no longer exist and never this world will not return and it becomes hmm a reference erotic work and we still, uh, focus on this hmm

this prose turned out to be very successful an example of an artist who does not pay attention at all to what is happening around, you can say, yes, uh, do something completely in counterpoint to the situation, and he succeeds, and he wins over those who can be, uh, somehow was more focused on the current situation. well, if they didn’t do this, if time forced him to turn to this, it seems to me, that is, you know, history played a role here. she pushed him out by this very thing, to pay attention to this. well, here, of course, it’s as if an analogy with demons is asking me for dostoevsky, that is, as if conditionally verkhovensky, who is obsessed with political ideas from tavrigin, who says, let’s leave in a contonure, how would i answer him there with you we will be on a big spider watch that come down from the roof. damn, i found my big spider and my content in time, it seems to me marina and

i wanted to talk, that's what, that is, we mentioned, here, dostoevsky is a wonderful example, after all, dostoevsky we have a diameter. i agree with this that there is something not ready. this podcast is a must read. today we are talking about bunin and dark alleys, as in the pinnacle of erotic prose. my guest marina stern is a doctor, neurologist, head of the department of neurorehabilitation, candidate of medical sciences, uh, and poet sergey izotov i glaiana. batnikova director writer, podcast host. hey marina, do you agree? it seems to me that bunin is a very healthy person, and he has a very healthy sexuality. and this is reflected in the dark alleys. that is, if we compare, for example, with dostoevsky, i heard many times men told me that after reading the image of dostoevsky's woman, this forever broke their psyche of relationships with women. well

, it seems to me that this is connected precisely with the image of a woman. and bunin's let's say it. so erotic plast he is plast healthy person. can i say so. yes, i think so, because, despite the fact that the sad look yes on women is some kind of reflection of sad experience, as a rule, this is a reality, yes, that is, it does not give those colors that usually characterize a certain plaque the ninth does not give negative colors to psychopathology. ah. here are the negative positives. that is, it doesn't matter. this is extreme. these are extremes. these are sharp corners. these are the words that we describe the image of a woman, because one way or another from dostoevsky bunin we look at women male eyes. well, yes, and accordingly, he describes how he perceived them. he describes their thoughts, describes first of all his thoughts, and not women's thoughts. well, are

the thoughts of these women really worthy of what they write down, right? let's stick with the male look, but uh, it's good in dark alleys regardless. well, let's just say the global alliance, which is constantly present in these love stories, but as a red thread, but still there is, uh, a respectful admiring attitude towards a woman, and i have not seen e anywhere did not find. here uh, let's just say some kind of uh deceit, yes or some