kalmark or maybe asked him some question. he brings up a really important topic. how realistic is it, but it is impossible to reach an agreement with the biden administration and according to marco immediately, but there is such interest. and you know, i agree that now is absolutely not the time and place to talk about this, neither for us nor for them. well, imagine that this map turned red, like this part, this whole circle, then we really have a basis for a truce, but the conditions that russia will arrange further. we can move a little, move a little. we can suggest that we somehow think about the status of these territories, listen to different points of view, invite the un secretary general, or, as we see, and that's somewhere, when we have a fixed, reliable, solid and obvious that satisfies us from and and

the corresponding condition for our historical existence as russia as a state, as a civilization victory after that we can start peace negotiations. its parameters can be minimally from a lot of russia from half of this circle there to the entire circle and beyond. now let's see. in that direction, for the ukrainian side, the ukrainian side believes that they will seriously talk with us about a truce, when, on the contrary, this circle well, there will be a little less green, then they will talk with us about reparations about surrenders, and then will they recognize the next president, because no president can hold on to such a loss. even the most beloved of americans is the same really. right now, in my opinion, they are also not up to the world, because they want to see who will be painted in what color. this is your table. big game, they help to have it painted green, but they won't go for a nuclear conflict with us and a direct clash,

because no, this is not their war. of course, they would have wished for victory . they took this little green man, eh, zelensky, but they risk their interests. they are no longer liberals. in my opinion, neither realists, nor pragmatists, nor fanatics, will be one polar world. but now they have to see who will win or who will get their way, as soon as a situation arises that satisfies one of the real players, either us or ukrainians. after that , america will come up with those proposals that we can consider before they offer us an option that neoconsu usually win, yulus. san dick them on their peace talks means we won america in wed game. you lose sign you yulduz san-hee is the only form of peace negotiations that the current administration has. and the usa, uh, recognizes, but now is not the time, because we showed that we didn’t, we didn’t pass, we didn’t flinch and, accordingly,

yulu, san-hir will not pass, therefore no one offers any nervous negotiations, since there are no conditions for them for one of the parties. look at the situation from the point of view of the administration, why are they right , they give ukraine so many new weapons. they have such great economic resources, they will give ukraine a few months to get these weapons and master them. why are they wrong in thinking that the ukrainian offensive will not put them, uh, in a stronger position. why should they refrain from giving up escalation? well, in this case, if you are still on the point of view of the biden administration, then they just believe that as a gambler, when there is a big game, then, uh, you have to deliver it all the time, you have to raise the bet. you have to throw in all the time. and on this side of this game

they see that some initial successes. the first rates brought something, and then it started, as if going down and there is an increase in rates in this case here. the game always come into play excitement here, of course, completely different things come into play. questions of prestige questions are indeed post military peace and questions. it's about how it's all going to be split up, so it's important for them now to really throw in everything they can to see what actually comes out of it really. here we are now present in one can be said at the point of apogee, or rather, we are entering the plateau of war, uh, which u will not be able to hold on indefinitely. it may only last a few months, because everyone will it is obvious that further either an absolute dead end either. uh, as alexander gench said absolutely right, either one of the parties will start

repainting the cards. they hope it will be a green repaint. but at the same time, the whole problem is that america has gone so far that there is no plan b. here we are now talking about the conditions under which we could start there. what are you planning to meet? someone with someone, the problem is that the biden administration has no plan b even for kiev, while in the american press there are some very interesting articles. last days. i remember, and unfortunately, i don’t remember the author, but there was a very interesting idea , a new interpretation of the victory began, that is, let’s say. uh, the finnish war of the fortieth year was declared victory, that is, yes, finland defeated the huge soviet union, but for this she had to give in more than stalin asked, but it was a victory that provided fin for several generations, so to speak, independence from the soviet union and from russia and and here is the search these are the options for victory this is just in time for the question of what is victory

as an internal agenda. and there is an external system of relations that one way or another will not have to end with some kind of agreement. i think that we will pass to great regret. this is the path along this plateau of war, and only after that. we will be able how to talk about what, in general, needs to be said. nikolai the radical position of them is still here, especially those who have already left. they er, categorically rejected your initiative, and not just rejected it. she correct me if you disagree, well, in general, they have become you in an incorrect form in an incorrect form, to put it mildly, how much you yourself are a person of an incorrect form, and i will simply say, putting forward absolutely vile vile accusations against you and linsky, so uh.

explain to us what they are guided by? i’m asking now, it’s not about grigory alekseevich, and what are they guided by, in fact, taking the side of ukraine, how can it bring them a satiety of vision, and it’s not difficult for you to imagine, uh, whose exactly they are in the direction here they become, because in my opinion the continuation becomes. well, uh, it's hard to figure it out there, each on his own side, but, but the problem is that there is no real liberalism with the value of human life , the value of each person is saving his life. this is completely missing. and now many people decide or think that they can decide they think that they can now solve their own interests. and

economic in the sense of weakening e russia a. i mean, the weakening of europe, by the way is it obvious that this is happening? it is obvious that the economic situation in russia is deteriorating, the economic situation in europe is deteriorating, but on the one hand, there is not enough value or pragmatism, because pragmatism, including in the united states and washington, would mean that maybe we will stop experimenting . and watch. hmm when it happens, a nuclear collision is possible. and it may not even be intentional, and serious experts say, recalling how crises occurred under uh, in the past say that the fact that a nuclear conflict can occur, including unintentionally, is dangerous. stop think about the observance of all agreements between our countries. and return to e is normal. there is no normal way to survey them at all, and

certainly the idea of ​​mutual hatred, including among those groups about which you spoke, does not in any way contribute to this. in doing so, i understand that one e side represents that termination. this is absolutely absolutely mirror image, some believe that the termination. fire is now beneficial to putin he will regroup as if something is interfering now. something to produce new weapons. the opposite side is convinced that a ceasefire is extremely beneficial to ukraine, because then the west will supply weapons to ukraine, as if this is not happening now. and for some reason, everyone forgets about the price everyone pays for this. i don't see any symmetry here between russia's position and the position of the west because, firstly, for russia, uh, ukraine, this

existential situation is extremely important. and it's possible the emergence of nato er, indeed. st. petersburg is already very close to moscow - this is what russia has always tried, uh, to avoid . whatever power russia has in finland will now be very close to st. petersburg, which yes of course, you are absolutely right. this and this, of course, as in finland is not so. uh, chronic. hostile. russia is in a completely opposite situation, nevertheless a serious challenge, but i understand russia's position. i understand the opposition of the west, i do not accept it, but i understand it, because i understand what the smell wants to achieve. that's what i don't understand, this is a position, a radical position. so i don’t understand how

people who fled russia and who openly support ukraine say that their task is to achieve the victory of ukraine and it’s not me saying it, it’s them saying it, so i’m trying to understand how they are going to strengthen their positions in russia how do you do you think they're going to take over here? they really have quite a lot, and reporting channels. e your positions, including through the media that talk about them, but i just want to remind everyone once again that this is my the belief that a military victory is impossible and everyone who insists on what they believe. that somehow, and this can lead to change. in the state of affairs in russia for the better . i want to urge them that no, this will not happen. they really won't listen to you, so that's enough. we were in forty -three. you say, i'm sure that victory for the soviet soviets is just when

the professor leaves calmly, let's go home , uh, about the forty-third year. i thing is, again, uh, radical forces on both sides always starts to remember. this is the well-known set. you do not want victory, do not believe in the victory of your country by military means , this is impossible. well, i want to express in this case. well maybe so very short remarks. i’m just about what time, apparently, also communicating a lot with those who, as it were, left the country as our radicals. their logic is absolutely clear to me, once it was very well expressed by one of the leaders of the white movement, who, uh, went to cooperate with the nazis. yes, even with the devil, but against you understand stalin for these people, uh, the main existential enemy is putin, if

for the sake of putin it would be necessary to remove putin in which they all seemed to feel comfortable and took place, therefore, in this case, the enemy of my enemy is always an enemy, that is, always a friend in this case, of course, they, well, how to say , stand for the victory of ukraine because, in their opinion, the victory of ukraine will give im new chances here in russia we understand. you are alexander well acquainted with geopolitics. i don't know if ray kline's name will tell you something, and he was of course, the former deputy director of the cia, the deputy secretary of state for intelligence, and he wrote a book in the early seventies on how to determine the dynamics of force factor of force, and he is there uh, wrote. naturally, the economy is very important resources are of great

importance alliances are very important what a powerful army you have, well, it is clear that it is very important and then he put multiplier multiplication sign and put the icon, which he seemed to call the will to win. and here are those who in this kind of situation have a higher will to win. it seems to me that their chances of victory are very much increasing , and russia has existential interests in this conflict. russia has a feeling that it is not only possible to lose some territories, but it is also possible to lose its sovereignty and even its territorial integrity from the collective west. well, maybe there is nothing like this except for the poles and the balts, and therefore i

i am convinced that russia cannot lose, and the collective west cannot lose. maybe because for them, for them, the stakes are much less, but this is of course. this is absolutely true, moreover, if the west loses ukraine, he can declare this his victory. he escaped in a nuclear conflict. he screwed up russia with sanctions. he demonized our regime. he crossed us out of himself by depriving him of access to new technologies to him to progress to himself he considers himself that this is the center the center of the world he doomed us to a peripheral existence. and even this is not a loss of the west, but for us we are talking about the fact that to be or not to be and of course , the two sides now have the will to victory, not the collective west has it. we and this is the strongest will - this is the most important weapon in absolutely right the americans have made of this concept. i have decomposed it into soft power, another

information war, and psychological training, and network warfare, and all of this will of victory, which is suppressed by the enemy. will victory must be you cannot win. when they lose, it's useless the conflict, with the help of its agents of influence , extinguishes the will of the enemy to win, but our people have it, and of course it must be recognized. here we must be frank, that the ukrainians have the will to win, who defend their regime, their nazism, their president , what they consider their territory. and here they are, if they and this regime is the nazi kiev regime. this is where he loses. it can no longer be called victory. and the west can present everything as it pleases, therefore, this is the horror, in my opinion, of this murderous war brother, because with our on the other hand, there is the will to victory. but we are faced with the same as we actually just got from the indoctrination of what kind of liberal liberal nazism, very

similar to us eastern slavs, who also have the will to take care and here in fact. this is not solved by a peace treaty, if they suddenly realized their situation, we would be together. we would move in the right direction. here we can reconcile, but we have to put up, not at all on western terms. moreover , on the terms of losing russia, there is no there will be no nuclear holocaust, and there will be nothing else. therefore, either the ukrainians, just become a subject, will leave this puppet position in which they now find themselves and begin to think from themselves. they have a chance to save the rest of their state. there is a chance. soon it won't be. and they have the will to win, if they still have a little mind with this will to win , which they definitely have, and they will understand what needs to be done, they need to overthrow their nazi regime and carry out a democratic reform and restore a real people's the people's power the people's power in his extreme.

that's when peace is possible and a ceasefire, and agreements are possible. perhaps we will cease to be what we look like today - aggressive, uncompromisingly tough. it's just that here she went and found a scythe - ukrainian nazism against the russian sovereignty of the russian eurasian just. well, maybe in some sense of the soviet-imperial feeling. we do not conquer them. we are here to free them. we came to save them, we came from the nazi occupation points that we rule and here is our difference and we will continue this conversation, and after the advertisement in just a few minutes thank you every century there is a country that claims to rule the whole world. every time this pretender to world domination seeks to crush russia and collapses, and in russia, the united states of america was very similar

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game and we continue talking about the crisis between russia and the west and specifically the events on the fronts of ukraine, we talked about what russia’s interests in this conflict, what are the interests of the west what interests can ukraine have more accurately than the current leadership of zelensky, a general understanding that at this stage, immediately, no agreements are possible, just none and no one to these agreements at the moment. a military sense on the battlefield, and we also know that ukraine

is very openly talking about boasting about its upcoming military operation, and we know that nato and uh, ukraine for this operation. e arms and puts great hopes on this ukrainian offensive. do you think what will happen and when? if you separate the entire propaganda part from reality, then you need to understand that, of course, ukraine is required to attack ukraine needs success ukraine is preparing for spring around the end of march, two shock corps are preparing them according to the new system. these will be real strike corps , organized according to the nato model with the same weapons, but at the same time, in ukraine , the ukrainian command is well understood, which the trained and experienced command understands perfectly well that they will have to face no longer the army that they saw in september, for example, in the kharkov

direction, where there were depleted regiments of the division, where there was a huge front that was just loose, and they would have to push against the battle-hardened russian army. not very critical statements are heard there that it is not a fact that something will come out of this offensive, because for the six months on which we prepared, or rather, from the beginning. we were able to successfully complete the autumn campaign, then did not receive the winter one either. and now we are preparing for the spring russian mobilization, which was carried out, it turned those mobilized people who were taken from their homes in six months into experienced soldiers and russia had an experienced command and outcome from their battles. not at all clear. everyone understands that , to some extent, historically , the story of the kursk bulge is repeating itself, when both sides were preparing for some kind of absolute battle, which, in fact, was supposed to decide the outcome of the war. you know, for me, for example, the outcome of the battle is clear,

it is not clear to me how, uh, the battle will begin for me more or less. is it clear how it will end? why does it matter to me clearly this is because as we have spoken. uh, russia can't afford to lose because russia still hasn't used all of its military-technical capabilities and hasn't used all of its arsenal and i see a reason for russian restraint, because the war has been done serious action creates opposition moscow is a perfectly normal city. at least most of the time. and in general. the russian economy is performing much better than expected back in the west and than expected many economists in russia and it is quite understandable that they are trembling and do not want it unnecessarily. to jeopardize that normality is

very important and legitimately important for the majority of the population, but i also understand that there is a lot. uh, in the russian arsenal and weapons, if you want in the russian arsenal of opportunities, what can be done if this turns out to be necessary, if all of a sudden the ukrainian offensive turned out to be more successful than the russian general staff is counting on and it’s not for me to tell you that there, they think a lot about this topic and think over and think over many possible options from the most optimistic ones. yes, in general , options that would be a real challenge and uh, you know that there is a wide, wide, range of weapons and a wide range of targets that russia is still quite. i didn’t care to know, and for many people this even causes

a certain disappointment, and i simply proceed from the fact that if russia needed to prevent some options that ukraine is striving for in southern ukraine in that, uh, bridges, the actual earth bridge, but between the crimea and russia, because i have little doubt that russia will do what is needed and that russia has for this, and the corresponding arsenal, i, moreover, did not know this only from what i hear in moscow from what i read from serious american sources and serious american reports. where almost all serious people say that russia will have the opportunity to prevent defeat, so i personally rule out the defeat of russia. but at what cost will it not be allowed. here

at what cost could victory be achieved . these are very serious questions. here i am with nikolai e that the fewer victims , the definitely better for absolutely everyone. nikolai well, i want to say very briefly that i , unfortunately, understand that both our country and ukraine largely remained soviet states. i am very afraid, to be honest, i will say that with the approach of this date. e year first special war operations can be taken some steps to escalate the conflict that will bring new lives new losses of lives new losses life and for me, being here in moscow in the studio, it is extremely important that any steps be taken to stop the death of people, and here we can recall, for example, in 1974, cyprus and the un security council, which even now must and

can be involved when the basis of its resolution has been reached. e ceasefire. you know, it seems to me that among all the types of weapons that have not yet been used, it is definitely necessary to use the one that you have already mentioned, referring to the american expert. and the deputy uh, head of the deputy director of the cia this is a spiritual factor, a factor in mobilizing society for victory in some specific circumstances. can become critical , therefore, we should not be afraid of war. we must tell the truth about her, our people will understand everything. and when we turn it on, we'll all fall down. so, then we will win with weapons with the one we have, which we have hidden or with the one to which we do not have this multiplier, which you spoke about dmitry. it is the key one and they recognize it. it is even such pragmatists of technology such realists such

cynics, like americans, and even more so , we are a people who know the value of the idea of ​​​​spirit and faith how nikolai thinks about real people who are an absolute value, but not the only one, because the survival of the state , the preservation of the russian people, the continuation of russian history, but this is also, to put it mildly, not something. why, uh, you can look at it like this and say, uh, we don’t want to shedding of blood, and therefore, here we go and let it be done to us. and what we consider absolutely unacceptable. nobody would go

to die. no one would sacrifice their life if there was no value. her fatherland, as you rightly said, freedom , independence, russia, she is a saint for us with a nuclear power, no one will do whatever they want. nobody is. you know this, nikolay, this is what you said . it is very important and i agree with you that no one will do it consciously, but i also agree with you that there are problems with perception. the russian will to win is like some kind of nonsense. and what can be disregarded, and i believe that indeed alexander whatever the views of the people and the people who direct the policy of the collective west that as long as they act as realists as long as they talk about specific disagreements . that, probably, it is possible to find solutions. i know that

there are other people and these other people want an absolute victory over russia. these people want to dismember russia. these people want russia subdue and before that they want to intimidate russia. and to these people. i would like to say, do not even dream. don't destroy. and do not be intimidated, it was so it will be. it was a big game, see you tomorrow on the air. good day, dear viewers. i'm dmitry bak, as always, i invite you to

the next edition of the literary podcast. it's called let them not speak. let them read and we turn this slogan literally. to all our wonderful viewers. they can read and e-books and listen to audio books can read papyri parchments can watch theatrical performances. we hope you enjoy reading. today we are talking with the director, artistic director of the theater practice with the head of the fourth acting course of the moscow art theater school, marina stanislavna brusnikina. greetings marina stanislavovna hello i am very glad that you are with us today. well, uh, according to the tradition that we have developed, we will start from the past. we are at the beginning of the conversation. well, there is such an anthropological fragment, and it will be a conversation about marina stanislavovna brusnikina about

how you got into their profession, how it all was, especially since, uh, it may be appropriate to compare the education you once received and, uh, the way young actors are studying now, maybe there is some difference maybe, uh, everything is the same, how it all was and how it all happens. now i graduated from the school of the moscow art theater studio and the head of the course a very long time ago. we had oleg nikolaevich efremov, and even then he was always so focused on modern literature on what was happening outside the window, we were brought up. so the theater cannot but respond, but over time to the present. and what you need to hear, see, know, and this, apparently, is efremov's inoculation to be interested in modern drama, namely in modern literature, so how can i say that something has changed a lot in teaching there, when we were taught and how we work now. i, i can't. that is, specifically, in each workshop . it happens in different ways, but here is my personal, our

personal upbringing, it was like that. why not take anything for granted, but not agree with anything, do not look for idols for yourself try to change all the time all the time, but to search for what is happening today. well, i would like to clarify, of course, this slogan is not to accept anything. na vera does not mean that what is not accepted is probably not true. well, i, for one, ask students in the same studio school. pushkin is a genius. why am i asking? i have a very difficult answer. you immediately remember brodsky , who believed that pushkin was not a poet at all. and it's not a rhyme. yes, yes, you understand, yes, and then you are, as it were, between these different opinions. and you already, as it were, you are working out your own and you are convinced that pushkin is a genius at a time when you are able to make sure of this just for you. he is a genius just for this case, for how you read it in this sense, of course, of course, a genius yes, but you can’t take it for granted, otherwise it will be this

is such a two-hundred-year tradition in the theater, and there is a two-hundred-year tradition in the theater. well, it's risky. and here, if we started talking about school, then this is a very interesting topic in general, traditions and schools, but because, of course, the school is something that exists on the foundation of selected knowledge. and of course, a school in a non-tradition outside of accumulated experience is generally impossible, but it is impossible to live only by this, because this is how everyone understands any tradition in their own way. yes, and he interprets it in his own way. and so it is necessary to go to the base on this one, while continuing to see , hear and understand and move somewhere, because you can, of course, mothball such an underwater kingdom. here he is so well calm. that's somehow what's going on on a surface. everything else is already there. and you lived well in this underwater kingdom, that it’s a classic, that everything is fine, that everything stands still. when we analyze the classics seriously, you understand that

neither the problem, nor the topic, nor the people change, and that if it weren’t distracted in us now, we wouldn’t be reading it. and for a long time, as it were, to go all together with pushkin, the books have gone somewhere far, far away from us. a very important idea is not only to listen to modern texts. this is number one. i completely agree with you here, but also the old texts classical texts change, of course, are read in an absolutely new way. uh, we sound us in our experience in our space. is it wonderful that this saying that the theater is in the minds of the audience? yes, yes, yes, of course, literature, tell me, is it true ? hmm, such an opinion that the school? after all , it lives no longer than one or two generations, after all, e nu is built around e not only tradition, but also a master or a master plus a follower. is it possible to speak of a two-hundred-year-old school or a century?