she is this story, we also took it from colleagues, which we are now also working on. this is a very simple thing, but we have expanded a little on the specifics for ourselves. and we have acting referees, we arrange logistics for them in such a way that they come to other cities and the current khl referees themselves tell the local guys about the local guys, young, novice referees, how to act in certain situations, as a lecture, and you practically know very strong specifically for local colleagues and this and this are all current arbitrators all top orbits. what methods were used before and what are now some different things in general are different science is now the most stepped forward, of course, certainly. we already have analytics, as such, which uses instad. well, that is, mileage and other things with the help of this plus. we have uh, use the watch, chest straps and rhythms. we are in our third year now. we track the daily routine, how people perform physical training is well, more tracking

of professional growth, that is , everyone can learn the rule, but as you can see, we now we are publishing vr talks and this, it seems to me, has opened up. just refereeing, like what, from what? it consists of not making 5-4 key decisions in a match. this is a constant control of the game of negotiations so that it does not flare up, so that the players calm down, so that there is trust in your decisions. it's you who are discussing something throughout the game, explaining , if you do it, it becomes easier for you to play convincingly, why do experienced orbiters of the game, as a rule, do not flare up, because they are good psychologists experience and help to solve it. here it is. our task is to teach them to identify this human potential and already invest resources there, and not in such a way that it’s just agully to give everyone a chance and try to grow everyone in the khl . so 300,000 rubles. for conversations. i knew that you started these projects. yes, why why not a coach? what are there to say? let's,

let's go to the root. ah, what is the difference , let's say, from football, because when seven seven eight, the seventh season, i, as a leader, when we came to one of the first meetings, it was still with us fkhl and then to the management of the ice hockey federation of the russian colleague, a very important point. understand for our sport, not for the judges nor for the sport, there was a story when i say that everyone is sailing on a ship, and the judges are nearby in a boat. well, no matter how close they are, they are not on the ship nearby, so. the main task was the idea, and i believe that we have achieved that we are now sailing in one ship, there is a boiler. it's brewing inside, well, sometimes you throw it out of the boiler. no need, you can figure out something to fix something to do, we understand that someone can not hold back, so all the emotions after the game have to immediately and sometimes the coaching staffs with them when you talk with your hand or time passes , the expiration of time there in the morning. they understand what the person said. he was wrong.

down, this kind of understands, but i will explain, because the work of the commentary is evaluated the work of the football player is evaluated the work of the coaching is evaluated the dismissal of the dismissal. there it doesn’t matter at all about the work of a judge in the khl, it’s generally impossible for the court to evaluate the work of the department refereeing, if you talk to professional judges it does not think that everything is fine fine. they are such untouchable people withdraw money money, and very good money, and there what fines there are. and refereeing penalties come from a one-year contract, if a player influenced, and oh, if the referee influenced the result of the match , he had earlier warnings from this year. we warned, that is , we first warned that from this year there are no warnings, money immediately goes from one and a half, there up to five to ten percent annual contract. even if hypothetically there, well, let's say, let's call the figure 2 million rubles. imagine that a person has an annual contract of 2 million. you write him a fine of 3-5% per game. yes, respectively, well

, even 5%, when 100,000 people do not receive this money. but i think it hurts a lot in my understanding. well, that is, there for one or two mistakes that led the head. and about how much it carries, but now it has increased this year. yes, we now have the most difficult first year, when well, that judges something in area 603-64 matches off court penalties for talking about refereeing paul in football. this is what will work or what was given at all. we have already chosen the other way, so i agree that there is an absolute logic in the khl, but i think that there is a peculiarity, and it lies in the fact that each club in the khl has its own voice and representative of its internal corporate work. still, uh rfu is separated from the clubs. although there are people on the executive committee in the committees and so on, but still , the refereeing has come off in our country and there is no influence, so linger clubs. a lot of people can't, but what you can see is that our biggest clubs

have been talking less about refereeing lately and we 're not penalizing it anymore. and we went the other way, we decided to analyze the topic of refereeing. that is, everyone said that you were closed there. what are you black nothing is clear. what are you doing? we said, well, we'll tell you, in general, everything that does not affect. e on the judging process. that is, if the release negotiations and mine there, i don’t know, in three weeks they no longer affect the judge. he's already been rated. he survived it, he judged the next match, the fans, everyone also calmed down. and it comes out as some kind of educational material about how it happened. okay, you want to see how this referee is preparing for the super bowl match, it’s not a question from the moment of the station to the end of the match, we will show it, accordingly, for my part , i see that now people have become more trusting. and well, if someone wants to speak out, he can speak out a fine, we have, well, a fine for negative statements not in terms of the quality of work, anyone can to say that i didn’t like the quality there

, we will contact the troops, there we will consider the moment. we have there unfounded criticism, and, as it were, underestimating the honor of dignity and other things. we have fines, and the ftc works very well for us. we have a suspension of football subjects for more than six months, that is, it cannot be said that we do not protect referees, it is simply impossible to discuss it in the khl at all. yes, we can not criticize, going beyond some moral. if people feel that they have a certain amount of support, they begin to calmly work, as soon as people start to twitch, like zero, well, as in any job, any manager, when he starts to worry, he still does something wrong in sports, all the more so, look at what everything is very simple there is a rule adopted in the summer. well, we can carry a story there for a long time. the working group , then we send it to the clubs, the clubs vote for this or that rule in the khl, and then we insert these rules only then and make them new and send them through the federation to the ministry of sports. that is, we ask the opinion of the clubs, how are they

want to see certain rules, that is, we offer them a menu, we do not. something recently last year from myself. that's how they will say yes, that's voted. this is how it will be. that's how everything was taken under the visor. let's go eat there is a football file, as far as i understand, this is not at all impossible at all. we have a single fact legislator, they develop rules and directively lower them. i can say that there is some truth in this, because football. the rules of the game are so complicated because of the interpretation and hand and martial arts. uh, what if we start, uh, each federation contributes something? all the same, there are european competitions, in which i hope the referees and clubs will return. uh, conditional sergey karasev since he makes a decision in seconds. or are you from beardless, he is unlikely to be able to live by the same rules in russia and in some critical situation not make a mistake in europe, or vice versa

. i think more than any practically international competition valued for hockey players in terms of earnings and prestige and everything, and so on and so forth, the russian championship has a position in the world tables and so on, it’s different there, therefore , we have a subordination system. just another european cup. the champions league is, well, the top competition. where everyone strives, therefore, naturally, those who form this competition, they form the rules of the game for us, they are brought to them in a different way. i think it's simply impossible to have alexei anisimov, who has been a leader in the winter for seven years, running ahead. i will grateful. in the continental hockey league, football is the leaders, and refereeing well , here, what can be said with the khl, it began to be built earlier according to new

corporate principles and came to a certain system that already works there, well, more stable. this happened to us, too, and the leaders are changing, but the make up of the department does not change as such, and we will already say. so, if we assume that i am conditionally leaving. i come to another person, what we believe that we have achieved the most important thing, there are already developed, in principle, algorithms that laid down in the regulations in digitalization. the root elephant will not happen somewhere else, that is , a person will not come who will say, and now we will do it there, everything is completely different. it's just that people don't quite understand. i think uh in judging how uh? coaches conditionally hired slutsky in goncharenko and he comes and the team. suddenly shoots up hmm in refereeing. well, our practice says that this does not change. and the feeling of all the fans that there is a referee in football. i am wrong. he is wrong. always in favor of someone, that is the talk is exclusively about the fact that this

is not a mistake among, but this is a mistake in favor of some team, that is, it is determined and says why this is happening? what do you think? and this is a long road that has not yet begun today. it started from there from the back and so far. eh, that mentality won't change. it will continue, and in order to change it, you need to take certain steps, including, well , again, you can’t say that to paulo rfu and many leaders, as i see it, what is needed. it needs to be changed for people, it needs to be shown that this is not so. he made a mistake, because not because he wanted to help, supposedly. if you take it, because he did not take a step to the left according to the method, a step to the right did not speak swara at the right moment, his side assistant did not tell him to look for it. here are the errors. and as soon as everyone starts looking for mistakes in this , everything will probably be different, but, so that they don’t think about him, he must have a good salary. and he must understand where he is going

, you understand, he must understand that if he judges without errors, then there will be a part of him department and fans will discuss beautiful goals. now, what is the main story ? you just have to move away from the discussion refereeing, again. i say, how we try to do it, we try to do as much as possible so that it is just people. well , you can say, to some extent tired. well, that is, they didn’t think about what was not necessary. here you want, we have explained everything to you, we are not a black room. here's how it's received. here's how we work. here's what these referee looks like. this is how they discuss during match. i think that according to our metrics, kuyan is now due to these negotiations that are published, uh, i think that he has one of the best images in the rpl, because we don’t have many players who are perceived positively as well as he and our task is just to create a positive name, so that when it arises, here is some kind of situation of distrust, all you trust resources. i have such a cool boyfriend. we believe him. he was him, we

understood him, we know him, he made a mistake, he made a mistake. it is not used to know it. let's talk about let's talk hockey. and can i ask, please, tell me please, how many years have you been commenting since the sixth year 16 years in 16 years, have you ever heard that some team won today after the skala game, because the judges helped us. for once i can say that the coach from and the players can smile sarcastically and say yes today, but no mind about any sport, i say, not only and we are not our sports at all now. no one will ever say that, that is, when people say, now they are there in one sport or another, they helped us. then others come down and say listen, we won today not because we played well, but because here he helped us in any commentator striped. you will be told that if he sees three removals in a row from one team. then the fourth with a 95% probability the team will have a different, not a fact, the second moment, which you also perfectly understand

that if the match is ending and if it is even more so the playoffs, then well, you don’t need a referee there. well, as we say, you need to have your head torn off, so that there is a removal at all nothing lights up. that's where the line is, look. i'll tell you such a good thing, well , you fell. she is also there, like a hand with the concept of gay management. it is him. we didn’t have, probably three or four years. now it is slowly returning, because we have, uh, the leaders asked for such a story that, according to the principle of how much there is, let's actually sail the overseas league. we do not hide with whiskey in one place, how they burn there when the head screams. uh-huh. so we have a single line. this is a single line. next comes the pilaf and the team all know it. and this is still more your subjective assessment, of course, this is a convenient expression for commentators and for viewers, when they gave three, well, now they will give it always happens, but if you look at the fine, we may have two on 10 two on 12 does not happen.

you just need to take statistics, because the game is such a sport if two equal teams play, approximately always in terms of skill level and there will be four by four - six by four eight by 10 rarely, as there are moments when two equal teams, but one is outrageous today and they will have 2 x 10 there, and there are such cases, of course, but at the same time you yourself say that there is a feeling that it looks like three, then already, well, in simple terms. what is game management, we all understand that the cost of an error in the last 5 minutes with a score of 2-3 or 0.1 is different. and, of course, it's philosophy. it is grafted, of course, when the game starts and some kind of removal comes there. it gave him. no one will remember him, and you, even if you get into this game, you understand, that is, you climbed gave there 50 to 50, how is she joking sex? uh-huh, not in fifty fiftil ok, you are, well, everyone understands everything at the beginning of the game. but if you give a removal that nets fifty in the last 5 minutes, then you lay down. on the ticket table

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sit down, we have a philosophy. we say all rules are written in favor of attack. uh-huh next year we will still have a new rule in favor of such hockey will be even faster dynamic. and if pavel needs a task, he needs to do something in favor of the attack, there is something pavel cannot do, they have certain limits, maybe i heard that our hilts, maybe they wanted to lead you, but they could not lead there, for these, for these, for these reasons, the same thing as i told you before the broadcast that yes, it’s a matter of time when their football orbiters will explain their decision over the microphone, well, they will they do it without options already it will be here. yes, of course, yes, because there are no options, because people need to know everything here and now. that is, i why then i will go to a hundred? why are we coming to this if i have to? well, if i can sit down at the tv, they will explain it all to me . whatever you understand, and the referee video system is really such a rather curious topic from the point of view

that it seemed to everyone that it is absolutely a panacea. that is, here, well, yes, the judge can make a mistake, but his colleague will sit, who will have 18 monitors. he will see. this mistake will be corrected, but in fact it's not only in russia, it's just that at the world championships they saw so many completely inexplicable decisions of the judges who are sitting in front of the monitors. you can explain to us why. we all studied, just different times, please, from that moment. i think the impression of the exams, this is the most vivid impression in life that a person has. and when you're prepared. we take exactly those situations when you are conditionally prepared and not ideal, but you taught to come to the exam, and you are going through this important situation for you. and this is the feeling of the brain of humanity, which drives you into a trap. you say yes, that's two and two, that's four. or maybe five. if this is adrenaline and other things for you, well, this is a property of the brain that starts looking for you arguments for this or that how

it happens when a judge comes, uh, to the monitor, firstly, there are human relations there. you want to support yourself. eh, do you understand? well, it looks like it's normal . such 50. i probably see the criteria in favor of this is one point. that is a black and white situation. well, it seems to me that we, well, not so much just have not yet super-trained inexperienced orbiters. they make these mistakes. this is one of the natures of very experienced referees. who the fat is? it seems to me that they don’t have so many mistakes like that, they happen. but this is usually connected, well, with your understanding. i understood the moment, everything, being also in a nervous situation, is much more interesting for us from the moment to improve, when the chief arbiter comes to the monitor. uh-huh, and it would seem that in the obvious for all situations, it leaves its decision in itself. here it already looks for everyone. not really.

it’s understandable, and we’re just getting into it and i have an assumption that this is due precisely to the fact that the judges, since intellectual people begin to calculate in their heads, that the moment 50 to 50 i change my mind is minus 0.5. in any case , i leave the old ones, maybe they will continue to be supported, but there is a premium, there is a rating and so on, that is, they do not think about the game. they think how their work is evaluated unconditionally. when we speak, we are in this pressure that is created around them. it no longer only means when the club shows against the pressure that it will be in him to enjoy. maybe i'm just being nervous . that's just to fall into this trap and make the wrong decision, which is difficult to explain, when he will evaluate the same moment with a colleague. watching just there, getting ready for the match on tv in the room on the bed. he will say easily, but when you are, on this stress, you just need to, well not many people have work associated with stress. they are experiencing this moment. they had it once in the eleventh grade, or at the university, and since then their lives have been going to some kind of knurled sequence, and they think that any decisions are made. well

, as if conditionally easy, those who are engaged in some kind of project work, who have constant d2 calls and so on, these people do not have a question. how can you make the right decision just recently there was a precedent in the league we will not discuss. i'm just going in because and say this, well, maybe you have not heard the head coach of the weak lokomotiv did not deliver. yes, you know the game, yes, that is the story. yes, the goalkeeper's son did not put the game and mogu papa the stage could be against each other. play it would be history. he said it's not show business. hockey. this is a completely different story, and in refereeing in the khl there is the concept of a war room. here is for me. this military rhetoric has always been incomprehensible. why why is it clear that you call it a club. that this is show business, some kind of win. well, why in hockey that's it such uh, well, how would such a military vector be , this is a game. yes, you can’t imagine denisov everything ingenious is simple in general from the very beginning. she. eh, when they looked, when they created it a long time ago, well, var

-lum was called, yes, then it somehow happened, or it was called military a couple of times in slang and since then it has been military. and when she was already in the military, it seems at one time, there was even a meeting with the driver’s hand saying , well, you’ll somehow rename it there, well, it’s not the military there, situational and some other, that is, nowhere in the official documents - it is video viewing room. well imagine every time talking room video views. well, imagine how he says, here, and now the judge will walk. here, specially trained people are sitting, moreover, no one knows them, if it is important, yes, of course, the room. we always commentators represent the referees in the field and then represent the referee in warsi who help the military. well, indeed, the rules are right, the generals are sitting there who control the process. what is why? this is a fundamental difference in hockey. firstly, we have not published for a long time the head of hockey clubs does not know who judges them. they have not been excited about this for a long time already.

that is, they find out when people go out an hour before the game, this and that, not always, because, well, when they already go out or already a tv dice pops up who or already, well, you can see who judges these people, they are independent, they obey. and we have, according to the regulations, directly the chief arbitrator. no one should know them, because some pressure should be exerted on them. let the people have to sit and calmly decisions. this, of course, is the difference between hockey and football. and these are the people who work every match every day, there are five of them there . well, as a shift, they work for me, yes, and therefore they have no problems, and unlike football. uh, let's say when they make a decision at the request of the coach. and if earlier we discussed it with the judge for a long time, then now, in order to speed it all up, we told them the guys. you don't need to talk to him. he just came. you have a solution. you said he quickly left and announced to everyone there will be decisions orbi path barbarian announce the main judges quite soon tilt. yes, we are just, uh, this activity seems

to be reasonable to some extent why because it brings clarity clarity, but there are several nuances in the stadiums of russia there are no repetitions, because as far as people will understand it, to be honest, i don’t i completely understand for sure. even for myself personally, i don’t fully understand the position of the ministry of internal affairs in this case. why . because everyone now has gadgets, in principle, anyway. everyone watches reruns, of course, why can’t they be shown on the monitor. well probably, i think that it takes some time , they will analyze and also lead some. well introduction, because when will the judge pronounce his decisions. some of the people we already understand that they did not see at all what happened, how it will all look. well, it’s very strange, but if a person has already looked at the phone, since, as a rule, they have already described in the telegram channels what this solution and others are, that is, it will be interesting to see how the strapping will do it if they show it with repetition, because that the ban on repetitions is just a requirement, including including regulatory bodies and uefab, because it affects safety there, an ambiguous moment is some kind of controversial, how

does it look? it is very interesting. it seems to me that this will be correct. if, again, we are talking about the fact that this is a safety issue, then replays are introduced in hockey. yes, and now on hockey you can see. what happened, as i understand it, yes, but not all cities fall into this, but we ourselves came up with the initiative. this is the continental hockey league, like there, that is, who wants to participate in the experiment, so that we show all the deletions and everything that the judges are looking at moscow military room. and length. we thought the club of clubs would be smaller, but 12 clubs out of twenty-two says, we want to show it well. it's great. let's see the security guards again say that this public security is not happy, because the cost of fines is high if foreign objects, beches and pieces of missiles are flying. at one time, they flew to me when a piece was from a rocket, well, a piece of a small rocket, when kazgan was suing, and there is not far from baikon about 200 km. this was such a good city.

yes, if we digress, there is a small one. well, there was a piece of the rocket. it costs some money. according to the regulations, we always have quite large ones. but look , paul has already said that the man who sits in the stadium. he must not be harmed. what's the difference, he enters the gadget and looks at the same thing. and now a simple picture moves quickly, a repetition of a complex solution is watched there for 5 minutes. and here they are, poor fellows, sitting there, then there is no internet, then something else, and here they are and they are tormented, they don’t know, what to entertain the director in ptsk already doesn’t know which grandmother to show, how she sits there with a ratchet knocking, but here everyone was brought to the scoreboard. and you can sit quietly discussing and understanding how this or that decision is made, and i will say more i have. i am an optimist there plan, when they show certain deletions, which are basically, well, of course, the court are wrong. they don't have the right questions themselves, and the game fans will have fewer questions. they will speculate and understand, because we already have to hockey. uh, the tv picture is

on the bench, where the coaches stand and all the repetitions are repeated. they turn their heads into hockey players. they see. why should a fan be separated? he came to see , he came to find a business to see. yes, you can perform suitive energies. he needs to scream. this is what a good story is right, but if he sees that there was a deletion, but it was we understand and we understand that we will get problems when i am in this deletion. no, we understand this, but we will now look at the experiment for a month of melting, and then we’ll come to the clubs again and ask the guys, after all, what do you want, but our rules clearly state that, if one of the players starts, that is, if in football such a player will show on the scoreboard or run, listen here monitor, here we have clearly spelled out 2 minutes at once. that is, it is not a one-way road. two way road, players. must understand that yes, judging by the same. well, the same people, they are wrong. you need to mind your own business , the head coach cariesator says that

when i go second, i know perfectly well how there will be judged. and what is there to expect? correctly , i understand that football players and hockey players are referees, but they fall under the same pressure in st. petersburg. in st. petersburg, and in moscow, any big club. uh is under pressure. but it's like a given, which i think is absolutely stupid to deny. this is connected with the media and which accompanies the club, which can exert pressure if zenit, spartak , cska, lokomotiv dynamo well, krasnodar rostov have competent services that work. well, you are in any city. i do not think that come to rostov and after georgievich. we can leave somehow. so uh without nervous shocks hmm i don't think it has something to do with zenith zenith actually refers to refereeing rather rarely. well, what is not strange? no

, i can't say it's not weird. well, their objectivity is stronger than many clubs, they have a lead. i think if there was a situation such that they would have plus two points or minus two points there, the situation would change, no matter how significantly. i can't to say that they helped the zenith in some match there or something else, they took all their points there, if we can watch the last matches with spartak they have there, though there were some questions about refereeing, but they are connected with key decisions , so this is a conditionally defined myth that zenith has some kind of exclusive relationship. i have to him or the judges have. uh, everyone in the subcortex can’t get away from this because of the unwillingness to make an inexplicable decision against a big club, this is exactly what we do, so that the decision is still made the right ones, because when choosing , you yourself understand that making a decision is a wrong mistake to make in relation to a small club. well, as it would be unpleasant , all the negative consequences,

understandable bonuses and so on, but against a big club, will be deuce. this is also a plus. there is a week for the lead and everything else after roman borisovichberg went down from his socks, it became easier to referee in st. petersburg after roman borisberg went down from top to bottom, the ska team is in third place in terms of the number of free throws minutes and answered your question to the question that he does not play does not play in the majority, but not easier. and you know, both easier and not easier, firstly, he gains experience. i'm talking about staff now. yes, you can see how when he was just starting, how he behaved on the bench, as now and then completely two different people , what was at the beginning now. well, it's plain to see. well, it's like an experience. and then, uh, the line of conduct is his. he doesn’t run around the shop there and doesn’t shout, he doesn’t get indignant. there are rare occasions asking just to explain one solution or another, but after talking with the guys.

they say that the limit is correct. and even sometimes, maybe even joke with them. there , they ran out of sores in kazan, when you remember, peter played in kazan, they lost to a runaway fan. in my opinion, roman borisovich is also the main one. he says it's six. he says to remove. well, that is, such a good know good working relationship no with this and we have, unlike football. they have 4-5 clubs there, and everyone understands that this pool will play. uh, we have first place, uh, a sufficient number of clubs, which if we take it now, if you take the table this year, yes, that is, we have it in the east. so it's just incomprehensible that any of the six clubs has never had such a thing, siberia has never been in the first place. well, i don’t know. if you don’t want to offend siberia with football, i don’t know, probably, like, uh, well, something good is average. it’s on the table that rostov confidently comes in first place and, moreover, they are clapped in turn by all the leaders who come to him. well, yes, probably, so rostov yes, not with those game, well, with the players extra

everything is class, and here, uh. you have e every year the number of applicants, it increases. and now it's there 10-12. we have already said that well, for me, again , such militaristic rhetoric about the war room is strange. there is another phrase that takes football beyond the limits of the game. this is a lie detector. correctly i understand that all this is atavism. and this is what we will never return to. well, never say never, you understand how it is that for some reason we fixate a little bit on the wrong, we have a problem. uh, it's football exists is. uh, the case of the seagull that has been brought to court is negotiating. there are guilty and so on, so to say that we will never have this problem. well , i think it would be a face. yes, match-fixing will come and refereeing and so on. we have constant oustings, mostly young due to

betting problems. well, no matter how we stick it out, because this is the negative side of our life. well, to say that i absolutely believe that we will not have these problems, but now she is caught. well it's not mine deportation due to the game this year we had another one. or rather, last year. here in the fall one arbitrator was ruled out the splash screen. there were even two or three. we are constantly doing this disciplinary code. uh, i don't know, was the ethic invented for the studio adopted. we are engaged in this work and in this case, as it were, the leggraph is, as the main problem there, that we are doing something else for fun, it will not be his. the phenomenon remains check all the same will be what is the polygraph will not be. well, for now, at least i am. why didn't you want to? see? we have a different approach, how similar it is, i will tell you, as leaders, how i see it. i, if you give a contract to a person, then you trust him.

don’t give him a contract then, i reason like that, because the built system in hockey is made in such a way that it follows him, the military room checks his total control, which cuts moments on him, then we look at all this if an inspector inspector is present at the match he is checked after these moments by the de-director of the refereeing department something and another plus. if it's something like that, let's say, god forbid, it's resonant and i'll check it out. that is, he has such total control and such a number of cameras. we have our own google video system, unlike football , and take it and do it cut and understand the infection, where he made the wrong decision , let's say so elementary, but it will be necessary now in such suicidal referee to take, well, just even think about it and we don't have a problem with that we don't say hilt clubs. uh, we were killed, they had one question. why was he wrong? it's, well, well, me it seems to undermine the trust somewhere in people. definitely i understand that, pavel

, why does he say that? it's not his desire to come, polygraph as a leader? you did not come, he said everything from tomorrow. everything on the polygraph is not. and it's probably more than that. well, they have a system. we have something different, we even have judges banned social networks. they don't even have instagram, and everyone was grateful to me when we banned instagram so we could have more free time. they don't have instagram, we say it out loud when we collect the offspring, and we say, don’t read, uh, soviet newspapers, there aren’t any before lunch, don’t read any, there won’t be any appetite, so here our podcast is called football, not hockey and hockey football. today we have united in a t-shirt. why is the shirt wearing hockey? and football is not hockey just because of the number of people involved football is a cheap sport that everyone plays. it seems to me that this is the most important difference of his therefore, popularity is here, well, the most lying on

the surface alexey why hockey football? i agree with pavel about the fact that they have an easier sport, but the mentality in one word is beautiful. pavel kamantsev bosses officiated hockey in our country. thank you very much for your time. hi all. is this a podcast pc or console? my name is ilya pelikatsky. and i am a professional esportsman. hello friends. my name is konstantin sakhnov. i am a game producer, game developer and teacher at the higher school of economics. my name is dmitry, a simple russian surname smith. i head the computer sports federation of russia and am its president. and today. we wanted talk about how gaming actually began, what happened before?