tv PODKAST 1TV February 16, 2023 2:20am-3:00am MSK
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see you very soon. a free program podcast with you tonight. i am maxim tarankov, and we have absolutely unique guests that i highly respect and i am sure of all of you elena anatolyevna tchaikovskaya good evening. good evening, glad to see you, as the head coach of the russian national figure skating team, are you satisfied with the state of affairs in russian figure skating? for the third time the head coach of the national team in the entire history of my coaching, i have now accepted a very strong one. there were times when it was worse. now i have a very strong one in my hands very interesting in terms of the composition of the team.
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and i hope that they will continue to go and show. what is our russian figure. and what is the strength of our national team, the strength of ingenuity, the strength of the idea? the strength is in the discoveries, because there were many elements of many approaches to the programs. created here russia has always been remarkable for its amazing ingenuity, ideas, musicality and wonderful performances. this is our strength, it remains and what is the work of the head coach of the russian national figure skating team skating, because after all we are an individual sport. each of us has our own coaching staff with a personal trainer and so on, but the head coach. we do not have a hockey team that is assembled for the world championship and a head coach is appointed. our head coach looks after all the athletes who
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are currently a member of the national team. and my task is to help see, and somewhere to suggest if people want to hear it, and somewhere to slightly change direction to say that if you would do this, then, probably, it would be more weighty more advantageous. then all the same, my task is to create. the most important thing for me is that when he trains, the coach is obliged to create this atmosphere in which you always want to come. we have a tough sport. and when everyone says, how beautiful you are a cat, and these are easily in light dresses with flowers, then no. we have a very hard job, and so that this hard work does not turn into such a terrible job, when you don’t want to go there, the task of all coaches, and especially me, is to create an atmosphere and interest in discovering
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new elements. they got it. yes me happened and when it happens to the athlete. he wants to move forward. and this is the creation of a common interest. and most importantly, athletes should trust me , they should trust their coaches that we will never betray them. that we will never do something that would harm them, they should know that we are for them, that these are our children, that this is our creativity, that they are with us, and we are with them, this is the head coach. well, you said you look after all the athletes, but the coaches. well i mean in mind and coaches, of course, with coaches. i talk to a lot of people. i myself drive up to the training, i look, and whoever needs it consults, who doesn’t need it, for god
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’s sake it’s very good, if everything goes well, i rejoice at you most of all in general, the task is to create conditions and my federation for our sport. it thundered the way it always thundered now the situation is difficult we do not enter the international arena well, what did we have during this period the magnificent russian grand prix now we are waiting for the grand prix of the jurassic then the grand prix of adults, that is, we are going on program. everything is the same as we had in those years when we were admitted to the competition in general. the task of the federation is to preserve the national team in the amazing form in which it was . this is what we must understand very clearly and try to do this. that is, you believe that the prevailing conditions. uh, enough of what has been done for our sport, more than that, we
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're on schedule. we haven't changed anything. i am like a coach. uh, i watch all the competitions. i look at the number of starts. i look at the number of trainings, what we are preparing for. we have practically the schedule is the same as it was all these years of the previous decades. we have not changed anything, on the contrary, we are also adding some new jumping competitions. as you remember, you were in st. petersburg. now , there will probably be free programs. that is, we are still creating and directing the international soviet society to the fact that this sport should be developed in some kind of government, like the idea of this showcase tournament in general. well, it’s not for me to explain to you that after the competition everyone skates what they can, but in order to create special programs. now they will have to coach their choreographer. we ourselves are an athlete to think, after all
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, the task of a coach, and to choose such music and such a syllable on the ice text that would reveal the maximum qualities of an athlete. not just let's do this, let's do this, but the disclosure of individuality. that's when it all coincides, when the music your athlete feels it, when the elements are yours. you are the winner , the same thing will now be in demonstration numbers. don't just let's dance something there , as much as you can surprise, i always said with my athlete and i say, now even think of every year how you can win, how you can surprise, and show my performances god himself returning to sports, and we are ahead of the rest in pair skating and in women's single skating, but men and dances. to put it mildly, we are a little behind. disagree dancing. we don’t have it at all. we
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had wonderful dances. now we are now we are yes , we are a little bit on i don't want to say we have lost now, you know, like a whole step. those are gone, and now we will have to get up and there are several couples. again, you need to come up with their face to reveal their individuality to find some kind of new image. if you like, in general , our entire dance art was famous for the fact that we set the tone for the development of world dances. now the french pushed us back for a while. with their religion, with their uh, some new plasticity. hmm , there were still americans like the french. this is all the same blanket, so now we must again return to our dominance, and you can return it by the fact that you are
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even a new stimulus, a new direction. with this gotta do it. this is also the head coach . we need to increase our reserves. couples that would lead the world of dance art, so the corridor is open, let's go, let's go back to the men's singles, because 20 years have passed, and we are still talking about the confrontation of the good. and plushenko well, we will always talk about the confrontation, too, two amazing athletes, and what are we talking about the world cup. no, good question. why do we have a champion, or rather, because the world champion has not yet been born. here he must
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to be world champion, you need to see him, you need to discover him. if mishin revealed plushenko from a little boy the same thing, glared at her no one would have expected it to turn out. this is what tanya understood his essence. and on this i created this bomb and worked only for him, but his individuality. there should be a coach that an athlete will find for himself. not just let's work. no, the coach must show the best qualities of individuality, here i am and at the same time cover up a little, because of each athlete there are some who have more who have less shortcomings, so our task is to close something, and leave
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you have already said that for the sport of high achievements we are doing quite a lot even in this difficult time, but for children's sports a lot of athletes come thanks to. projects that started there 10-12 years ago and the ice age and many others. it's just that the shaft fell on the children who sign up for figure skating. what is difficult now was previously considered the most expensive species. this is tennis. uh-huh, and now suddenly we got out on this the same line is considered that figure skating is someone i know here. i say you won't give up. bring yourself. no, well, it's
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very expensive. i went straight to my heart, because i have to take a lot of additional ones and skates of this, that’s all, she managed to do all the rollers. there is no. i don't do the exact same thing either. of the same opinion that tackles are good earnings for a coach, to seriously be in time at the time allotted. to give everything that an athlete should receive to still interest him. i am everyone young coaches. now i’m saying, please don’t discourage children from skating. do not yell or put up any obstacles, on the contrary, support him. whisk. oh, it turned out oh , it's gone, that it got to the music, in general, everything is interesting then. well, this is not a gingerbread, it is he himself who feels like a gingerbread, not what i tell him
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yes, i myself am i have a task to make him feel like a person to whom something has happened then it will be gingerbread. no, it doesn't work when he's on his own . that's a friend, that's all. even the eyes are different. i i see my eyes are burning. in general, i'm looking for athletes who had my eyes on fire. and you are now following the european championship , for example, which has qualified for the world championship. how can i not follow? well, i have a question for you then, let's just say the level, well, figure skating didn't collapse without us. pairs in pair skating, well, what are pairs there? oh my god. what is it, so i
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looked, i could not watch all the women. i have 12-year-olds like this on the rink, they skate much better, yes, and therefore i don’t know what about thinks himself, but with yu international soviet skaters. so i wanted to say, to whom it is beneficial, they are not beneficial, for sure. they lost all the money. i just received a call from japan , they had a japanese championship and if they collect somewhere up to 14-15.000 always. well, the truth was hai , this is it, now they have collected six. and sponsors began to turn their heads to say that this is actually not for that. they sponsored all this here, so i think that soon they will grab their heads and realize that without us it's not the same, and then i wonder there were spectators.
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god forbid, maxim crawled, well, you yourself understand that if it’s not interesting to watch, who will go who will buy a ticket, because there was always a struggle and people saw it and they understood that it was going on all very serious facets, that everything is very high, that these sports are the highest achievement. yes, no one allows themselves. that's how to ride in europe now, there's somewhere the fourth fifth number. well, god well, it's indecent. yes, even, but after all, the european championships here in recent years. here. uh, it was a fight of three russian single skaters of three russian couples. in europe, probably it's not very interesting to watch how the russians hold the next championship of russia let them pull themselves up. who is to blame for not being able to do this. why? i say that we always asked tom in all kinds, because we were reaching for ourselves, but america held on from japan, someone else jumped out. i understand that the easiest way is to push us back in all forms, so as not to get in the way. well, let's move further, for those who are interested. our return
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to the world arenas is being actively discussed now. and what conditions do you consider? acceptable none i consider unacceptable no doubts raised questions did not set boundaries for me. you will only come out when you are there something. sign something else without a flag without anything. what it is. what is it? why? who has the right to tell us what to do? well, i agree , as it were, if we go under the olympic anthem and the flag it's good for our athletes to come out, because i have insane pain for those who will not make it to the age of figure skaters for another four years. short thank god that there are some shows there. where to leave. the only thing i i am very grateful to this, that people do not finish there at 14 years old. you will support such a commercialization of our sport, when an athlete can skate to go to
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interview great coaches and so on. i do not support because you are leaving the sport. i am the head coach. i can't support it. i want all the athletes who are on their feet now to stay here, after winning all the olympiads. you go to the olympic champion, any went, right? and so i 'm interested in us staying here, in order to get us through to the competitions we have always dominated, i understand what you are saying that the first three places are in pairs. in general, we used to have pedestals three dances three in these pairs, always always no one even thought, uh, and the winners were girls and boys. well, three failed. but who really needs it, no one really wants it, so in general, i see that everyone happily agreed that we are gone, and we will return internationally. i know it, for sure.
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when i interview immediately after the competition, i often hear from coaches and athletes, and the difficulty of finding motivation here in these conditions of international isolation. what do you recommend? where to draw it, if you come to you as to your home? you have here the atmosphere of work you have the atmosphere to find something and you succeed, and you grow and you create and create together with the coach. this is such a creative job. what motivation, for the sake of this it’s generally just worth skating. i have been for so many years. i work as a coach that they know for sure that when a person is on fire, when they manage to create something very interesting new for himself, then he will come here, will ride, will do and everything else, this must be preserved . and the athletes who are now
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changing their citizenship. when they change it, they somehow do not grow, it seems to me, to die in their work. no need to change. these are people who cannot endure, in general, the sport of the highest achievements is patience. you know how i always say this is my favorite expression in general, the most important thing is to endure. be patient. endure everything know how to get into a difficult situation. nothing, we'll be patient. how to give everyone the international arena to know who they actually did not allow no, if you can endure, then you are the champion anyway, they want to run away now. so what? well, they left, that they rode further. in life, no one knows , and that's it. maybe for yourself so a little ride around the world. i don't know, you
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asked me, i don't have an answer. but to this question , why leave and why leave? i won't go anywhere. that's for sure. so we are back. this is a podcast, a free program and we have away elena anatolyevna chaikovskaya we now have very strong coaching schools there alexey nikolaevich mishina tamara nikolaevna moskina. there is a younger generation , too, with absolutely successful super successful ones , there are younger ones, you are calm about our coaching potential. well, okay, i'm proud, not only i'm calm, because i'm the only one laughing that tamara 80 moskvina mishin 81 continues to work with us, in my opinion, i'm 83. well, they should already put in new young people. their places and that they are also interested,
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because we are still immensely interested in figure skating in its development, really. every coach has an assistant who is a hot young assistant. this is what annoys me now. here is the story of team mishin tim some kind of hellish tim has always been one coach one choreographer. you now all have 50 people behind you. and that like raikin who came sleeve? remember when the hand is the other way? here is the same thing, who is responsible is responsible for the head coach. uh, well help. e. well, you used to have a choreographer, anyway, well, the choreographer's side is worth it and there is a style helped by his wife. this is a coach. she 's not tim what tamara doesn't have you either. it's you who came up with yourself now, you sew, trousers,
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sleeveless, i eat, and a hat, but responsibility, somehow. she travels in all directions. no, well, it's all the time i understand that this is a new time and that's it. we did not allow ourselves. we made costumes. we treated, went to the hospital, sewed shoes together with the athletes. yes, this is what parents do. you see, how about this, by the way, parents now trust themselves very often they are so immersed in their i understand that they invest a lot of money, but at the same time it happens that parents already become coaches and doctors and bring music. don't let your parents go anywhere. let it help, it’s really possible there with food and treatment, but not at all, but it’s probably easier when you blame your parents for part of the responsibility, then they are boycotted. see, you couldn't, or
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you didn't mess it up. take everything upon yourself back to the coaching staff. i'm like a provincial athlete. i want to ask if is it too much. well, i'm from perm, so not everything. isn't everything so concentrated, isn't everything too concentrated in moscow and in st. petersburg now the geography is very large. so, with couples, you can’t say anything, anything, nizhny novgorod too. be
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in many cities, where there are conditions, you have seen absolutely all the successes from soviet figure skating and russian figure skating. tell me what are the advantages of our training system and what can be the disadvantages of a couple of cons to say, i don’t want them to, but plus and everything plus our main strength is that this is an amazing training system, that is, we did not switch to the american system for 15 minutes. and go for a walk, and we work, the way we worked in the soviet union , the system is serious and gives very good results, because here in girls we are generally ahead, in my opinion, the planets are not just amazing, they are completely breakthrough magnificent just a pleiades of whole children
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who are trained they are trained by themselves early childhood. that's the meaning of what i took there for 15 years. and yes, i will train. no, it `s all here goes. what is her success? she is probably now the most recognizable coach of the new generation of coaches. of course, i say, he has absolutely all seven. competently built, and for each athlete. she has built a training system for different athletes. this is very important for its athletes, in general, our russian athletes become famous, after all, quite early. now so the sport has become a very young figure skating. and that's good. this is fame at such an early age, or still, maybe here this fire, water and copper pipes , it would be better later to come honestly, then everyone said it, as you say, sucks no better
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for it to come at your age, when people understand what they deserve. they lived it, they created it, because these kids are bouncing wonderfully talented, but they can't appreciate it. uh, everything, the strength of this success and what life has given them. here's a chance, you know? this also needs to be evaluated and understood and used further, how to live with it and where to go i can’t help but ask about the most probably loud the history of recent years in figure skating, that is, the story of kamila well, that's all, that's the story. hmm, we were not allowed to compete. this is one of the steps. how would we remove a very convenient stage. here is such a notion , some kind of microdose of something that does not
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give anything and believe in our very best girls. not that someone was holding it there. after the european championship if this was known, and it was in europe, they took away medals and nothing like that waited for the olympics. very everything was done by a cunning move, but to be honest, no one was expecting this unexpected. and in general it hooliganism is simple. and now i have to be very persistent, especially i need to feed myself. i felt like a person against whom such a big political game is being played. if she understands this, she will pass it, and everything will be fine, she is 16 years old. so i say that it is difficult for her. yes, if a person is an adult, he can appreciate this, and
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it’s difficult here, so support is very important, but it supports, everything is everything for me. it's hmm doping story. well, not that unpleasant, she's just outrageous, honestly. i'll tell you. it shouldn't be like this, they shouldn't hit athletes, especially girls. no, you have to go through it, and patience we just talked about it, yes, but this is such a global patience, it's the athletes and coaches that have to go through it. and so do i, by the way. right now in the press, confrontations between coaching staffs between athletes and so on are especially often exaggerated and inflated. what do you think, is it normal now that there is such a press, that it would be better if it did not exist at all, because what they write, in the first place, they invent all the time. there is nothing
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to say, really, no. secondly, all my life we had and i competed with the beetle all the time , no confrontations. no, on the contrary. this gave tamara moskvina, on the other hand, in pairs , the same thing threw new students onto the mountain. it's normal, thank you. god can not exist one coach, he will perish. he needs to know all the time that someone is near or near the border, there, of course, of course, there is competition and that's it. this is interesting, you have not yet been asked about some such dubious ones, for sure. here you go, you understand, therefore something now time at first got constantly. now i either simply do not answer, or find some such answers that they are not printed, because here the water is absolutely correct. yes, i do the same. i don't give any interviews. go forward, don't pay attention to what's behind
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. they say that in your opinion, there is not enough world figure skating or russian figure skating. where to direct the look forward what is not enough to pay attention to? borders that we would go and win everything that can be. world figure skating lacks either a system or statehood, where it was, so that it was serious, there is a very good coach, but there is no system. they themselves work at the expense of their parents. or even sometimes at their own expense. you see a good athlete, but you can’t jump out on this. it should be like this with us, an amazing system for training, amazing. i wish them all, by the way, we once sent our pair skating coaches to china. they
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completely took over our system. don't send there are more coaches. these are my eyes no time. i'm sorry, i always coached the italian national team in three types, moreover, dancing couples and one very poland - this is my all poles, there are dancing. this is all mine. i coached the canadian national team. by the way, those who now skated in the montreal school, i showed romance, because it was introduced at that time. i mean, i mean, i trained a lot , there was an exchange, but i was always exchanged on skiing coaches, there was also some coach who was cheating. it was terrible because that suddenly they call me in the summer, and we have only one month. uh, it's june. end, beacon to rest or do something. you 're flying to canada tomorrow. i don't want to go anywhere.
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fly away, so there were such exchange offices that were very good. by the way, i still have all these connections and relationships from those times. and now it's all stopped with coaches abroad. i communicate with them. they call me, and all relations remain the same, but this exchange of knowledge with ideas by some kind of training processes is no longer there, yes, but they ended with the one who just joined us i remind you that we are visiting. a great figure skating person or anatolyevna chaikovskaya sometimes you train a person, somewhere already in the national team at high night you think, my god. well, what is it, what is it? why is it not going and all the insight will no longer be able to. everything has already been worked out. all and this is for friction. here is for
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me. this is the most difficult discovery that gorky made, because you are still looking for trying everything, and then you are late. the very top, well, this is coaching, coaching in general. why don't they go yet and at night you lie thinking? you do not live your own life, here you pull it and that's it. but nevertheless , come all to the training work very well, that we are talking about this topic, but i still have such a sore subject that very few of you people have come to coaching. my task is to attract you. i understand that ballet on
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ice is all different, so to speak, financial matters, but it would be great if you caught fire. with this development, here is what you will see, what you have picked up. that's how the child of the people on you raised him. maybe you will say which one you would like to see as a coach from the athletes who please, i wanted to see you, so the school is right with the school. i don't understand why it doesn't work. your partner, wife, well done i have yes? nice. i would like to see from what now if there are hotbeds, why don't tarasova go there with frost, finishing there in how many years? they could they could, you know. i think that vova would definitely be able to, of course, well. i can't figure out where
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igudin is. why is he between heaven and earth already as if exactly here is an artist, that's the point. i am happy that zhenya came, happy because there was a period when no one came at all. we had a complete failure in 2006, here we are. yes, because there was an ice show of earnings, others, please, athletes, but anyway, it will someday end in 2006.
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this is also very difficult. you have to find yourself, how will you teach? well, now you come on, take a couple. who else will see? as a head coach, i demand. yes please, because i'm very interested, i'm very interested. interested in you. you are young. you are full of energy full of energy. you are full of ideas. let's all start. see, you asked what the head coach does with these great. now i know, i ran to execute. thank you very much, honestly, a great honor. i was really worried, to be honest, before this interview, because i didn’t know how to go talk to you at all, but it turned out very cool. thank you very kindness. i have emphasized a lot of you worth a lot. thanks don't be afraid, work found, i will definitely support. thank you.
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