in general, i think, at that time yes, but in russia europe was already, of course, enlightened, this is the attitude towards russia in which there were slaves. well, serf slavery is the same slavery, or maybe marriages were considered then, that's already such a furious isolationist. no, maybe it was unusual. maybe they would have turned away from her if she had gone out, no, this was not the case, slaves were one thing. or quite another aristocrats, there were a lot of such marriages. and of course, uh and very many uh, russian girls married europeans and with good families, and from the aristocratic and just from the nobility and on the other hand. foreigners have already married russian girls. they came to russia and made careers there, that is, here is the highest layer. he was international and you know what's the matter. here turgenev's position was unique. see. turgenev was a european, even a world star, because he had fans both overseas and fat . there was no dostoevsky and was not close. and

turgenev was super his becoming a doctor of law at oxford university. how to write for the hunter's notes, which played a huge role in the abolition of serfdom? that is to say, this european superstar is a friend of flabert, zalyat and other famous french writers, so of course not. that is, it would not be an obstacle to marriage, but it was an obstacle to marriage. i think it's mutual dislike. well, plus, they just didn’t have enough time, because the viadu died. e a few months before the death of turgen. he would already be terribly sick with cancer. eh, it was very wrong. well, i'm not a doctor, i can't say anything about it, yes, that's how i am not, well, i don't really understand, maybe i'm from another in general. well, as if the floor, probably look at it and served. uh, mona loved him, but she had her husband's children and none of them. during the yes,

first, uh, she was required to comply. uh, so to speak, decency. yes, maria nikolaevna tolstaya, she did not love her husband for sure, but she also gave birth to children from him and you never know families in which only beloved men and women give birth to children. yes, this is in general here, it seems to me that nothing is clear. that is quite obvious not all children. e viardot family by louis ardov yes, there are serious questions. it could be children and gounod and there could be sherfer's children, yes others, well the question is, what is it? what could it be. children. turgenev you, e somehow not. he could not theoretically have such rumors, but we don’t know for sure, it seems that it doesn’t work out very well in time. yes, it does not work out very well, although , of course, others did not love everyone. that is , he treated them. like here to their own, but

if the careless children, well, nephew, tell me, but the descendants remained alive, you don’t know until today, they remained, because yes , the daughter had a very tragic fate. uh, the husband will go broke, the husband will go broke. and so, this was exactly what happened in the early eighties , when turgenev’s daughter was already ill, she left her husband and left with children for switzerland, there were two children, jeanne and georges, and she asked her father for more and more money. yes, she asked for money for maintenance, and apparently there were some scandals of a gigantic, viarda, because she is mentioned in correspondence. uh, by hand dies, and he left his fortune down the line, and then the husband. uh, polinette starts, uh, the process against pauline viordo, trying to argue this will is unsuccessful, because all the legal subtleties are observed. but nevertheless there was, and such a posthumous scandal is very ugly. that's a very poor life further polynet containing.

her eldest daughter, who gave music lessons, taught, so it’s amazing that there were no children, nor did zhanna really, that is, there were no descendants of turgenev left? my daughter, with a cry and tears , turned to me to squat in her hands those 30,000 francs, which was supposed to replenish the capital belonging to her children. at first i refused with the firmness of foreseeing that these 30,000 would be swallowed up by the same insatiable abyss. yes, the insatiable abyss is her husband's business, which at that moment began to suffer serious losses. he constantly wanted money. uh, it didn’t work , he went bankrupt and turgenev didn’t want to give, because he understood that this would doom. yes, it will definitely doom him to poverty. but all exhortations were in vain. eventually. she just left her husband herself, but there is something with me live, of course, ugly extreme tragic stories. this is the whole tragedy that began. even in the previous generations of the e

family, we now have some kind of hereditary horn, they were pursued by hereditary tragic fate. there wouldn't be this legacy tragic rock. they would not have so many positive and negative moments in life that overwhelmed him, yes, which tormented his soul, there would not have been these beautiful works that remained. after him , the truth is such a drink. well, of course, any writer cannot live without emotions, because without impressions, and here is the personal life of turgenev , she is very bright reflected in his works. and now, it is not by chance that we have already talked with you, and other low girls are fine to solve their charming courageous and light-hearted people who cannot cope with those. e. problems with the obstacles that stand in their way. thank you very interesting. i have many questions with

pleasure. thanks a lot. my name is larisa guzeeva, this is a podcast of letters, and my guest was a historian. egor yakovlev this is a podcast, paws podcast psyche. my name is natalya loseva and today, together with my co-leading clinical psychologist, i am a candidate of psychological sciences. michael khors. i will help our guest konstantin erokhin understand what is going on in his family, what is happening with the children and why relationships are not building up. that's right. you are a father of many children. yes, how many children are you? well, as i say, in the overall standings i have five children. what is it that the two

children that i am now raising, that we live with are children, my second wife from a previous relationship. well we think they they come actively already in this adolescence, of course, this red light is already on somewhere. what is that red light bulb? that there are some moments when the child is already starting to act differently from the way you see him or not the way you have a model of behavior there for an ideal child. wait, here's the main problem. what is the problem only in these two children. because you still have children in common, so you understand that this wife also has a child from her first marriage. yes, we have two more children. and i also have a child from my first marriage, a daughter, but the problem is precisely connected with these children, who are not biologically related to you, there is a problem not so much even with children, but in understanding how to properly raise them. how to relate there

biological father, for example, and how to relate them to children with my child from the first relationship, that is. well, plus here inside, so to speak to the family. are they watery? well, is this a question of such a general plan or is there something that doesn’t let you sleep, you get nervous. because of this you brings out. you worry about it, that's the problem. what do you know now? the problem here is not even in children. but in the understanding that you are enough every day. it's hard, that is, you invest in children. there you have four children and you bring them up, that is, from morning to evening, in principle, there is no free time. yes, i get up, there at 7:00 in the morning i’m already walking and leading them to the garden. yes, we go to bed. we are there at 11 laying there , then you feed some other bottles there, that is, i myself have a youngest child of 9 months, so, in general, the whole situation it’s hard to get, and at some point there comes this feeling that you think, why this one, is it right? i do what i need to do to educate these kids. this is not the first time you have. is the word right? wow, that's right for you. here, do i

educate them correctly, how to behave with them correctly, what is it right to understand, what is some of the subconscious? yes, the concept is correct , that is, it is something that is, well, how to say, so that from a position, so that they are successful, so that they are very important in this happy so i don't hurt them . it may be their behavior there, yes, somehow, so that this is initially such a position that they seem to be like my children and not mine. yes, they are like me. they call them dads, that is, we decided so, and they want dads from their father so that this doesn’t, how to say, doesn’t harm their psyche. well, so that later, too, here we, as parents, so that it doesn’t work out, you know, it ’s now accepted in society, as if, well, let’s say, not to welcome when a man is brought up there other people's children. well, at least, here are many men, they think that this is some kind of stigma, yes, that is, let's just start with your first request not to harm the children. yes, yes, but it’s impossible to reconcile yourself with the fact that some of your actions to your children,

whether to foster relatives, or will hurt you. the world is so arranged that the upbringing of children. yes, it has two parts. with some of our actions, we inflict and inflict some injuries on men in their lives, and with some of our actions we give them tenderness, love for support support capabilities. if you 're trying to raise kids, that's the only way. and you deny. well, it's your human right to make mistakes somewhere. somewhere means to injure your children. you are essentially yourself personally yes, and your spouse, most likely, become neurotic. now you know right from the first words, apparently, now we are moving to the real problem. why do i hold back, i endure there or do something, and then this just happens to me. well, let's say a mini breakdown. yes, how do we understand michael that konstantin does not finish, he

now he is trying in general terms to give himself the right dad with the average right problems. although in reality the problem is much more acute. she is specific. yes, and it seems to me that this problem is connected precisely with these two boys and the fact that i caught the son of the biological father. so, well, yes, including here is the property is now clean. tell us what's going on with you so it happened that at the beginning of our relationship. yes , when my wife and i got married a and decided for a long time, but at some point i decided call their biological father to talk to him and set up contact. yes, that is, the unknown always frightens me conditionally. i mean, i don't know who it is. i don't understand. what kind of things are there, for example, what kind of views does she have on children, how does he want to raise them, that is. well, i had some kind of request, how would i understand? but what kind of person and how to communicate with him? yes, i called and in general did not find. well, to put it mildly, i did not find a boat. yes, there was no mistake. no,

you see, this is the action itself. it is not a mistake . yes, it's just an action question. with what motivation? yes, if i ask you now, why did you call? can you answer this question? well, i guess i'm just going to give an example with my husband. my first wife, we have a great relationship. we correspond with him there, we have some business. you, that is, we discuss how we are there. it's all about the child. he writes to me, that is, in my opinion, this is a good partnership relationship. that is, when they started to call and say, yes, well, somehow, here's something we have a child there. somehow met and passed. well, we somehow laughed there, you know, when on both sides friendly. i mean, hello. hello there, how are you? ay you have in our case, why? are you calling? well, it was also important for me to make some kind of comfortable one. i don’t know , maybe for me this is the atmosphere that is comfortable for me so that i understand what is happening, for example, yes, well, maybe not to be friends. well , you understand that around, as it were, that there is conditionally no risk, there is no danger. what is not hidden there? some kind of malice? don't know. well, you understand, as it were, but you would like to get

some kind of ideal picture. yes, how are you? fantasized these relationships and for some reason you deny the right of people, but to have this very anger conflicts among themselves. well, this is so bad, and then look, i already got completely different configurations in that case, yes, but konstantin is calling, and the new spouse of his ex, yes, and now they have switched roles. yes, and perhaps that man is the biological father of his sons. they still called him yes, he is still psychologically traumatized. divorce and here you are such a winner. i call and start to dominate like that. let's be friends. well maybe i i think that i was correct enough, but now you have said how this situation might look. i didn’t think about it, our general conversation was ugly and with the position of this man, and indeed. well, to be honest, i didn’t try other attempts, they are beautiful, well, how would they tell me that don’t mind your own business,

that you can only conditionally give birth to a girl. yes, they told me, well, of course, it was like that, i don’t know, but for some reason it hurt me, it hurt me. after that i even said to pronounce it, because when i have uh, i i think the second child should i have a boy for some reason, but i had a girl. i remember that i have this effect, that i even sat and cried in the car for 10 minutes. for some reason , when i found out, now i'm laughing. well, apparently you know this, as if some kind of psychological maturation there. and here it seems like the boys are ready. yes, and you are ready to become them. than dad, but is something stopping you? yes, i'll tell you what's stopping you. this is an attempt to become a real dad. well, you won’t become their real dad, that you suddenly decided that you are also them. dad are you a stepfather? take this position, it's not bad not good. she is really your attempts to be a father here is real. as a result, everything and destabilizes this situation. they are coming.

they seem to have a real father. and here is another real father, who was not from them either, yes, it turns out that why do you force two men to consider children as fathers? well , yes, that's why there was actually a request. eh, konstantin, that's it, right there, dad, and here are the bones or thanks to konstantin. that's the fact that we are here and there communication has become better. that is, he sees that here are the children, how it would also become conditionally tightened, right? more often brothers, well, here they are, as it were, happy there? yes, but i don’t know, i don’t undertake to discuss it, but you see that everything is fine here, but there, too, activity seems to be increasing. that is, we see some kind of help there, that children are taken. there on a holiday already wins. there is more to it, my friends. well, you know, folk wisdom, we hint at a proven one. why, uh, is dad not the one who gave birth , or is mom? yes, the one who brought up, you see, here he is competing again, you can ask washes these children.

well, conditionally, i’m also partly there, when they get sick 80 sit, of course, do your homework, well, you kind of walk, well, i drive schools, yes, they walk, of course, 10 times more, of course, why is he investing so much of himself and emotional and in terms of time michael why can he call you papa to these kids just because the wrong sperm. excuse me please, well for example, so that's enough. a little cause you understand what's the difference? how to name let them not call you dad, why do you need it why is the stepfather's position bad? well, i'll just explain. uh, we just have two more our children and we wanted our family to be conditionally closed, so that there would be no one calling kostya and someone dad , so that other children would not have questions. why so bad. what is there to say? is there dad here?

kostya well, we acted intuitively in this situation, as it were, maybe i’m more like, well, how to say a woman’s such a position, but i wanted the children not to have this, so that they feel that they are children, like real ones favorite, but they are not real conditionally their children real life. well, you are trying them, she is somewhere on the clouds with unicorns, it means to grow. yes, real life is different. well, let's talk about it, and this is a podcast of the psyche and the thought of the leading clinical psychologist mikhails. we parse quite difficult. th situation of the father of many children konstantin what is wrong with real life in real life, everything is just the way it is, stepfather. there is a father, there are children from different marriages. they will somehow interact, and an attempt, uh, to call a stepfather a father is an attempt, and to say to some children that you are all here means the same. this is what leads to the fact that children live, well, fantasies, he does not

say that you do not. we are still laughing. there's dad denis, dad's bones, we kind of have it there, but it's like this with us. well, well, just don't try to be a real father to them. i'm sure you'll get it in time. and you demand it right now here at once, so that everything changes. mikhail had one more reservation. i would like you to help the guests deal with it. you said it neuroticizes your spouse. i would have more breakthroughs i heard these, that is, breakdowns. well, you just, when you try, for example, you do a lot there and then conditionally. i'm like fucking now, you want some kind of reward for this. yes? from whom? i don’t know, well, that’s it myself to be praised there or something, and then or vice versa, you understand? what do you need? well, that is , you're just through the heaviness of something? yes, you seem to be trying to yourself, yes, to prove that so much has happened there, i don’t know how to explain. well, here's some praise from the children from his wife. i don't know, know who has a request for

here is this here is external respect. which people? well, in what places i want, if a person does not have his own respect for himself, he constantly expects this respect from the outside, both, and vice versa, if a person is full of this self-sufficiency, such a self, especially a male, in principle, it doesn’t matter what they call him, how to respect him, how right they are, you know, i can say, i can say that he illustrates even from what he managed to tell, that this one illustrates. well, you can say the diagnosis. yes, if mikhail speaks to him when did you give us such a your ingenuity, this is actually stupidity. yes, when he says some man, it doesn’t matter who says you give birth only to girls, like only girls are born, so you are not up to a man. you are not up to samizd there. yes, and you must think so about it that you cried? when did you have a daughter? well , yes, what is that, that is, was not connected, but this, apparently, was horrible. so, not sure. why are you

crying instead of praising yourself, the main question is not that konstantin e does not have this high level of selfhood, yes, which in this situation it would help you a lot. yes, because i really do, i'm sorry, i do not believe that with a man who is raising your first own daughter. here, everything is just fine and the gardens of eden are blooming wonderfully. well, i just don't believe it. that's all. there are probably some of your inner stories too. here, but because, well, excuse me, he brings up your daughter every day. well , i’m calm right here, why is it so? the question is not what it is, but the second question is what to do, i agree. you imagined some kind of picture, well, the ideal one that you would like to achieve. and here is the relationship, sochi, to you your first daughter and with your biological father, these adopted children. although i'm thinking that yes, yes, you know, yes's adoptive biography is biologically. i therefore try to always have

everyone have some. well, i don’t know, that’s how i think that here we are there, my husband is excellent. here i'd rather be good, what's good. well, what can i type here to write to ask. he may also ask something, we can share something there. they live abroad right? it's as if regardless of it is understood that it is very dependent. they live far away from you, no one takes away this daughter many times. she already lives there, yes, you do not share a daughter, because now you are separated by circumstances. they live abroad. you still understand that for many reasons, you cannot compete with him for who the girl will be with, yes, but here, as males, you measure your rights and your time and your influence on these two unfortunate boys. your daughter is called stepfather. dad no, what if was called honestly, well, probably, i would not like it, but aunt is from another man, yes, understanding. although, well, somehow, but he also

probably thinks, here he manipulates my children, makes them call themselves dad, so easily. maybe, well, i agree for this and it is necessary to maintain some kind of conditionally minimal connection there, or what? no, it does not support you want to be supported with it? well, we are afraid that this will affect what kind of will be some. well, how would it affect the figures. well, it's good that it will affect the children. when, for example, he said that uh, sort of. if you call her dad again there, i won't take you. yes, that is, they knew it well from the children, their mother shared it, well, you understand the model of behavior. that is, they need to change the psyche urgently has the right. it has so to speak. well, he says the child, i will not take you. if you call the children to jump and try to somehow arrange their lives so that there are no injuries in them. here hello. hello. we have agreed to. this is real

life in children will be traumatized. i do not urge you to apply them on purpose. but if here this abscess is not open now, you just understand in which traumatized adults we should not understand this, there may be a rethink. but when they are 10 years old, they cannot be given, as it were, the entire amount of information about life there, in addition, once you found out that dad said such, well, not a very smart smart thing. what else were there, what else did we share something with him. and we went there there, he says, i’m not interested, like, and they say, there, dad doesn’t love you conditionally. they tell me, that is, as if a child and negative initially daddy pumps up, huh? well, maybe, yes, maybe the pope has the right. he, most likely, is going through hard this divorce and separation from michael's children then. please tell me, here it is. i think that you are not quite sincere when you cook so cynically that you stop spinning around the children. i am sure that you are actually the person who thinks about how to protect children from unnecessary

herbs. here is how, in the interests of the world of goodness and these children, konstantin should behave correctly when the children come and say, here is papa kostya again there about you, my dad, he said, the same one doesn’t say, you know, mom finds out, then, as it were, say, like, ok, he has the right. i don't hate him for it. and so we try. why are we saying that this is not, well, as if everyone has the right. well, of course, to the right. i'm not offended. it's ok. now i see konstantin thinks. how can i be even better. how can i be even more correct for these children to finally make a choice. yes, i think that's what i did wrong. here i am like this. for example, he screamed. well, conditionally there scolded, there he gave a cuff. yes, as it were, even later to come up with it, and so here it is, well, as if you begin to blame yourself for this, when, as it were, there are no conditionally some third parties in this story. it's solid, but

your child is there, yes? perezestite, but from a friend, but these children are not yours, and they will tell you this, you are not our real dad. that is, as a client, i treat them with the truth. you have no right to educate me. so something needs to be countered. right? yes, if we are counting on you. yes, for example, is it so this event? why maybe? i don't like them there. and do i love them? for example, i think they did not convince myself. i myself, as it were, that after all, well, you understand, this is such a reflection through mirnoye, beyond the requirements for myself, i must love them like relatives. well, i'll say, so it was in my family. the driver had a divorce, after which i can still say that, well, not everything has recovered. yes, i was an adult. i was 20 years old. but i think that's how it would be for me. you know how the whole glass ball collapsed. yes, i have injury. well, i mean, it might be

that you understand, idealistic you try in the eyes in the heads of children. those illnesses for them , contact with reality, you understand, i 'm in front of these little boys and say, so boys. so i'm your vice-dad here, or i'm your most important, dad. yes, something will behave badly, then something threatens him, that i will not take them , that you, uh, will only be about pain motivation about punishment. after all, there is still motivation there for something positive. no again, and then say yes, guys? yes, i understand, i am not your own father. i try hard, i want to. you have to replace it, but i understand that i will never do this, because my native. that is, you need to do this tete-a-t right here, it’s like at some point. well , it can be done . and let this dad be

an encouragement to quarrel with dad, for example, with dad we are trying to create an ideal person savior savior well, why a normal living person, somewhere else they deceive there, for example, they start. i say you took it, not you. and so i start it like this, because it's not mine. well, here's thinking, how can it be, because it's not my blood. you know, you start right away, because you become like your father, it seems that you see some understand this, is it bad that it starts? no, i don’t know, well, it’s you at the level, it ’s emotional, sometimes you react to something after all. yes, you are a rational being, and you try without emotions. we will not live, but try somehow to yourself and in a rational way. let's ask ourselves a question. here the key question is a very qualitative question in this sense. why? well, that's why i told you that it arises like this. i catch myself thinking this. catch. ask yourself a question. why uh, so a son can't be like his father. why shouldn't he lie to me?

can you name at least one reason now? why shouldn't your foster kids guys lie to you? no, probably, must. well , you have the other extreme. they can lie. here they can, for example, yes, like everyone else. well, i haven't had any other examples yet. this is the most the first one goes conditionally the first one venice i mean you kind of and you face it and kind of have this part of it hmm well kind of a story that you think maybe it's because of that maybe dad. and how bad, well, there is an algorithm, where does what go? what if, because of this, they will be unhappy there, or i will be unhappy, for example, then all the forces. you understand the potential issues, yes, you will be an unhappy konstantin when you are to some extent an absolutely happy person, mentally unhealthy. your attempt to be absolute yourself

always happy and to raise children absolutely always happy. this is an attempt to raise mentally ill people friends. please write down everyone who is watching and listening to us now. here it is for yourself, please, in the diaries and in the notes, the formula that and today we ourselves are the leading clinical psychologist mikhail and a candidate of psychological sciences. michael horse said formulated our podcast to the psyches. you see, lately, right now, this request from people to live without stress, live happily, as it is, perhaps you need to know something provokes. there's a conditional media media on it. they are like a promise. no of course, happiness and turn on critical thinking adult critical thinking. and what is adult critical thinking natalya is, when a person lives in reality and looks at wow reality, it turns out that such and

such it is different. and an attempt to narrow down this field of variability of reality to some one warm and comfortable corridor for you personally, it is very neurotic. yes, that's for sure. let's talk with you more about the relationship of your children with their mother, because look, we are considering the whole of such a large family, in which i see there are three dads and two moms. yes, this is how it should be explained to everyone. well, here we have such a mother, thank god, all the children all communicate, and we are all going. that is, it is, as it were, like magnets and everyone is always good. that is, you are talking about the second wife, i give the current one, that is , my child and these children come, that is, we are inside. here are the families of our children, which are ours as biological. here are her children, they have no boundaries, that is, they communicate as friends. that there is, as it were, here i can not harmonize. yes , and i was very lightning-wicking fuck your said,

not harmonizing somewhere. you're a big oddball family, not typical. there is a mediator , she is the second wife of konstantin. maybe look. she. as i understand it, she accepts and treats your eldest daughter well . she has two children of her own, who are just the point of such a conflict of a sluggish constant and they have in common. lord we understand with our own that mom we are so much that we have to carry on, but in this situation, maybe it’s for us to give some advice or some kind of algorithm of actions for konstantin’s wife, how, maybe she can somehow moderate all this advice, don’t try to moderate it, but continue to moderate it, brothers. once again, an attempt to somehow hop this whole situation and decide that everyone is satisfied

and happy is torture, infantile michael , of course, as in the tradition of the best psychological films. yes, it shocks you at first, and then you are such a tank, then only you start somehow otherwise, that is, yes, you will die conditionally. well, of course, well, conditionally. i i say that it, well, invigorates, yes, and they make you look at such a shake-up a little, when only, well, you will have conflicts with your own biological and adoptive ones. it is normal to have conflicts with children. and what is the worst thing in your imagination that can happen to your children in the context of your difficult relationship with your ex-husband, the children will close. yes, at some point. you will just start, as it were , really, that you are not my father there, that you were, no matter how bad it is to educate us , such an open one, as it were, let's say unreasonably, yes, what then would be impossible, that they would start harming themselves, or would they think? what, well, rather, yes? that is, i still, probably, somewhere else i am not so

informative. im imagining that is, what does it mean that, for example, there? i don't know what i'm answering from myself. they are things themselves, that because of them my mother grew in development, most likely, until everything that you said is not scary, but you understand, with such a set, as if introductory water data, reach a divorce, for example, with this situation. that is it again. yes, in this discord, between dads , some one will sow, you will be your wife, and you will get divorced. it's you who are afraid , including, for example, either they are either just, as you know, people are now, well, such trends, really, for example, what will happen, here's another in their lives. here is such, as it were, events. yes, including mine, that is, of course, this is also very well for you. well, i don’t even know , maybe i’m returning myself to where, as if i were in the participant’s place. yes, events in the form of a child there and maybe just updates.

yes, i'm sorry, please. well, let's not normalize divorce. i understand that we live. yes, that is, this is a great tragedy in the personal world, which destroys all illusions with statistics, but listen, let's cling to something. well, let's cling to the values, of course, i do not call for the value of not michael to divorce. am i saying there are divorces? yes, and some children go through divorces, very comfortable. they say it even better, but here we see what psychology is called transference. konstantin believes that if he had it hurts, yes, then konstantin will be afraid to divorce others. we got to the bottom of it, because we believe that this is pain unambiguously. he got divorced and seems to live, the suffering feels like in films and nothing. wait, but we don’t admit at all that he loves this woman. he even

tries and loves these boys, who are from another man, as much as he can. we do not admit at all that he just wants to save this family, and in fact, it seems to me that the most valuable thing that we have now got to the bottom of is that it is not the conflict with the father of these children, mikhail, that scares him it seems to me that it obviously frightens him that this conflict with his father will deprive him of children, that is, there is a family that he now cherishes and that he wants to save. he is weak, which is very difficult to make, and it was not so easy to give. that's all, because i want a small moment, that there were a lot of countermoves against the creation of such a family, that is, everyone there is familiar. that is, especially from the male side. yes, everyone said, what are you, like, is it like there yourself? a no, of course, no, we were there. an interesting story is beautiful. there she helped there with deal with a fraudster there, and in general, and 2 years. they were just friends, that is. already yes, yes, well, conditionally something why? well, yes, he already

works as a lawyer at work. well, conditionally, yes, that is , there, well, that's it, it was all opposition. that is, we have certain stigmata such relations in society on the part of men. here, see the first one, there is no konstantin at all, if i felt bad and it hurts, then everyone will feel bad and hurt. the second society is homogeneous and everyone in this society does not welcome and criticize such relations defined in the whole society. yes this is wrong. do i agree with something experienced. and look for a society that will not criticize you. maybe less of it can definitely change the attitude towards this society. yes, he actually has the right values, i insist on this. why would you look for this confirmation tabuni. taboos are born from you, girls, cool beautiful, but thank god you say thank you to the universe, what is happening? what difference does it make to you what they think, not just the male part of society, but some small, when a developed segment, the male part of self-respect. and you, in principle, we are for the society and listen. ie

have us such instinctively. we still try to be closer to the father, to some yes, to society, although communication. we all try to be. we are the same by default a person strives to be. all the same, to meet some of the expectations of people. yes, yes, i see before me a rather atypical character of our society. yes, an atypical handsome smart man, who, of course, means that he got into such a non-fabulous story with his personal life, five children, i don’t plant a terrible good impossible trying to be right. yes , he tries to love everyone and everything he dreams of, so that he has that world that is finally more or less happy for him. he created not just so that this world would not be taken away from him. you are cool konstantin, why do you need society's assessments? if we're talking to you now, you're awesome. let's now. come on, i

have it now only for myself said another person. yes, constantine romanticized this world. ah, konstantin believes that this world can be perfect and that, uh, it depends constantine constantine put on the crown of god and decides. what is good and what is bad in this world, and any deviation of this real life from its ideal image of konstantin, uh, cause pain. yes , maybe not in all areas of life, but in those areas of life in which konstantin e, has his own such deep-seated values. very wonderful values ​​\u200b \u200bof being good for everyone is your attempt. yeah, she 's unrealistic, well, be an adult already and admit that for someone and to some extent you will definitely bad. and it's just not a problem. here, the

less you will make demands on yourself. here these here listen to be bad. it does not mean to be long or mean if you are bad in some eyes, yes, if you are bad in the eyes of the biological dad of your common, so to speak, e separated by fatherhood. he will respect you more. here, judging by the way it's typecast. he will just start to respect you more. you will understand some people some people, until you understand everything, and they understand. yes, i'm not talking about the physical just a manifestation of e-strength. yes he anyway already bad already good. you will not become time, there may be something to straighten out, but for this you need to show. that man has his masculine strength. here the mechanic, of course, responded to me that she says mikhail , i will honestly say how she speaks. oh, honestly.

here's at least how to say nicer for what you say, but here's what mikhail probably says, it seems to me, well, more somehow very with her, maybe, and, of course, it seems to me, if i, well, how if i were to work with myself, i would choose better to push off, better to be disappointed in this, but you need it. i think it needs to work. yes, it's more of a downside. that is, here you said, as a plus, as i am in the black. and this is me, well, as you know, like a person who really tries to control all this there , to impose his will to dominate somewhere. that is, it is so patriarchal, where are you, although i understand with my head that it is necessary to move away, but subconsciously, yes, that's all, that is, and when it collapses. you are also trying. i don't understand you start it, how to immediately really worry no no hassle, because i like all it goes. there it's something there it's a little bit out of order. you just heard the positions, yes, but you know how it will turn out for you in reality right here in the middle, you take something from me take something natalie right?