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[000:00:23;00] your arrangement is interesting to you, the composer knows better what their main advantage is the term vox term vox is one of the most sensitive instruments that i know, because look here i control two of the total sound parameters - pitch, tone and volume, and at the same time it reacts not just to the movement of a hand in an electromagnetic field, that is, closer to the container or further than the container, yes
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, the same is true from the antenna, but it reacts to the movement of the entire conductor as a whole. that is, i actually play with my whole body, i can do it in any part of it. play and he understands all this, if i hold my hand in the same way, and turn my head already the sound the sound is already changing. eh, and this is not such an extraordinary, heightened sensitivity to the action of the performers. it seems to me that this is the very thing in the range of characteristics, how amazing is the continent, you practically do not hear how the sound of the sound goes into the musician, comrade. yes, after all, this is the divine nature of sound. this is musical mysticism for good reason, for example, the beloved director alexander row used the term vox from time immemorial. when it was necessary something mystical and varvara the beauty and
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koschey the immortal and, of course, ivanushka and baba yaga were sleeping on hmm, were made out by these leaky sounds. so but i can e give an example of the fairy tale ditch vasilisa the beautiful, where the composer leonid polovinkin took the terminology for the beautiful image of vasilisa about the first composer who wrote for the terms combined shostakovich, he wrote the party yes the part of the terminology for the film is one. a. as a composer with a conservatory education, you comprehended the very right term vox because you are one of the most respected performers on this instrument. you show off your work. uh , spitsyn was written by you before the term god saturday, because, probably, where all his possibilities are used. yes, but i do not think that in every termvox song one should use
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all its possibilities to the bottom. i have many different compositions where it is shown. like this , like this. well, here's our conversation. uh, i think it's local. grandfather generally talk about electro musical instruments, like athenon, the point is that we most often call electric musical instruments electrified instruments, that is, an electric guitar. she has acoustic pre-guitars and after electrification. she became an electric guitar synthesizer. we call it an electro-musical instrument. but this is essentially an electrified organ converted to other technologies, a synthesizer, not a piano, but an organ, and there are only a small number of true electro musical instruments in the world. here are the first of them, a concert terminx and another instrument, no less. interesting. we can't bring it to the studio because it is such a half-ton
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black cabinet and is called a synthesizer. ans is also an author's instrument. it was invented by engineer evgeny murzin, you can see it here. now, uh, on the video, what the an synthesizer looks like, look, you see in front of me there are such little pictures on a black background, and such to each other and these are not holes in a punched card. and these are transparent stripes in a layer of a special such non-drying substance on the glass. here is a glass with little marks that move now the sound is born by the light. it is absolutely true that as a result we get some special sound. yeah, uh-huh. here, too, i thought, why did i once get acquainted with the dance, and could not move away from it at a great distance. he's kind of incredible. alive. it seems that we are used to the fact that a real musical instrument and everything is made from there and from wood from the skin of dead
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animals. there will be no hair there. yes, everything is so alive. and it's like, like pieces of iron, there are some glass pieces there. but that's not the point. uh, here, as the term vox is alive, it has a breath, this human voice, it has and in the same way and ansa. uh, absolutely incredible for what it has. here is this living inexplicable breath. perhaps this is due to the fact that evgeny murzin manually painted and lined his matrices. i have with me one of the parts tour for ans synthesizer. this is my composition the composition that i have now called this composition of the almighty yes, absolutely correct. but what is on this non-glass, but transparent flexible film, on which
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a special substance is applied, is very opaque. and here, scratched by hand, these here. stripes they are not white they are transparent. this is a synthesizer score. ans my essay is called a cosmic landscape some original name, apparently. he will become. yes , anna listens to the emotional museum and music in general, and since it is impossible to transfer it to the studio, i was able to transfer the recording of the asance. that is, i drew everything for us, played everything and everything was recorded, and we will hear it now in the form of a backing track of the finished accompaniment. here there is a little more added, as if such a tamping is such a slightly processed, and i i'll play the parts of the term vox live, right here
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in the studio. but mmm still, you and i are forced to admit that the desire for the sky in space is of course, but it seems that we are the spot of this instrument, if drums, for example, this is the pole in general to produce the earth with its pulse. that is, of course, a take-off, i must say that what one of you now feels is an irresistible desire to learn how to master this instrument, buy it somewhere and learn it. listen to buy something. i don't know but learn to play. thanks to god, you can be alive and well, which is what your grandchildren want, if correctly oriented chat and pro great-grandson
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terminator term. listen, he has a whole school of terms. and it is very important that it is located in moscow and is open to everyone . you have mastered the instrument so roughly. yes, i started in the term center at lida's cavern, from which you removed the most magnificent graduates 100 years ago. may i hope that it is because you have seen it that you have decided to master this cheese. by that time, she was studying, just then it didn’t work out, comrades skipped their i guess. well, nothing, the result is ours, please, in the twenty-third year of the twenty- first century, we hear the instrument here in the studio. incidentally, i do not remember my own moment of acquaintance with terminxs, so now i live with an individual feeling that i have always known about it. you cannot imagine your life, without singing you sing always and everywhere and think that you could
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on the first there is a well-founded fear, and perhaps comrade fitin’s re-recruitment by the germans. and this is an anthropology podcast on the first, its host dmitry dibrov alesya rostovskaya and chermenvoks, but we have a community of performers for the term, you correspond at all, if we eventually have a whole festival and the term boxing, or at least concerts there are such terms that do a lot organizational work. yes, uh, holds a terminology festival every year even. yes he e does a lot to popularize the term vox, maybe we'll listen. well, yes, let's , here's what you could show us as a composer, well, in this case, you know , you still look, they showed us one
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note to show here. let's tell you, please, about learning the term vox, it's really difficult, because lucky. i started there with a living teacher. but by the way, i then worked out with lida, uh, for a while. uh, there, how the master classes were open and, frankly, it’s just there were a lot of guys who, well, played just like that, it was hard to listen to, and i gradually realized that, but it’s hard for me to sit there for 3 hours, so that later i can get my 15 minutes, and i switched to learning from the videos and audio recordings of clara roquemar or the greatest terminology of all times, which i personally knew the inventor in new york, where he, too, suddenly ended up, but returned to the ussr . that's where they met, and her previously not
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happily broken life as a violinist. became a happy life again terminoxys absolutely outstanding so i looked at her videos. just, well, cassette rolls, that's all. here. you have to have absolutely words depends on what you want to play, if you want to play contemporary or music where no one will tell you where to where the salt is where something, you will have to have absolute pitch. if your interests lie in the field of tonal music, and then you can play with relative pitch is also normal , so, uh, one of those questions too. well, already tired of it. why are there so few performers on terms? well, i just see how would, well, normally executive terminology after all. yes, i began to think, and it seems to me, uh, there are uh, two such suitable clues, firstly, that the termvox has no ancestor and the second reason, which, perhaps, even more importantly, here is
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a man on the piano fits. there's a piano dead in the cinema. yes, he played the point under the black keys as a dog, and he is already happy. he already did it. he already recognized his curve dog waltz bad, but he recognized it, and on the term vox, even this way to the first recognition. here just to find out falsity of his poorly played trifle, just to recognize it, this path is longer than on other instruments. and it is precisely at this very first stage that a huge number of people break down who thought, oh well, here, well, no, there is no need to deal with the keys. i ’ll come up now, i’ll make a beautiful movement with my hands, it will pour by itself, but at night it doesn’t pour. so people fall off at the very first stage, and i thought that maybe i can help them not only as a term-vox specialist. well, as a composer, and here this is my course, just lies in the fact that
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a person who is able to find and hold one note. and you can come back here there is a person, maybe you can do it like this, then right at the first lesson i already play a real play, the whole component with all the things there. if you want a snippet, i'll show you, of course. from one note the piece is very easy to slow down with
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glissando. can you hold your hand right now? well, and accordingly, in the second lesson, a piece of two notes and then gradually gradually. uh, i uh every year at the polytechnic university in st. petersburg , where i still survive that room is exactly the room in which leo invented the terminology, it
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looks different, but these are the same walls, uh, and here in the polytechnic. every year in september i give in-line lectures. uh, the whole first year. everyone from all faculties is listening. uh, a lecture on the term vox, showing with examples and uh, sometimes we do. eh, for the whole year it has been such an elective and i even became interested at a certain stage. eh, how to do that to people who have no musical education? here's something anyway played and you know really happened. i wonder what is there, say, in september or october? let's say classes began for the new year , for example, the girl recorded, albeit not in a crazy performance there, but recognizably fun and well recorded a small christmas tree coldly, in winter, just on the phone and her parents. grandparents made happy. yes, dear friends. this is an anthropology podcast on channel one and the host of this podcast
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, dmitry dibrov, admire the mind's work, the performance term is boxing olesya rostovsky korea that this is a bell instrument originally of flemish origin , corrilene has several characteristics. this is in contrast to the tradition of russian ringing, secular instruments, correlian necessarily consists of tuned bells and their tongues are connected with the help of special mechanics to a special huge keyboard. he is in russia where the most e, the oldest of the existing instruments is located in the peter and paul fortress in st. petersburg. alexey brought nothing here, and not specifically alekseevich, it was he who brought the correlated tradition of iceland to russia, let's
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let's listen. inspires strength is another one. yes, this is the correllion of the peterhof museum-reserve. so we still have a mobile corelion that belongs to us. yes, it belongs to the belgorod philharmonic. uh, a mobile correlion is able to drive its own
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collion car, these same ones. i don’t know anymore, it’s like levers. these keys are also actually built, like a typical piano keyboard or, or let's assume, all of the same color, but logically. yes, in terms of structure, these are cute black treasures up to sharp and so on. yes, and pedal keyboards. same most are built on the same system. yes, it requires remarkable athleticism. ah, just such an athletics concert, because it is considered and what if these are such bells there, here in st. petersburg we have a big bell more than three tons and people are so oh. what kind of pieces of metal are there? so it is necessary with all the foolishness there is not. e everything. not like that, uh, correlion. e. well, of course, we are talking about such beautiful correlions, as in the peter and paul fortress, yes, which are of incredible sensitivity to the mechanics of accomplishment. i still think what i want
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do. and korea answers me. eh, now, if we are dealing with a good instrument, then hitting with all your might is ruining everything and the speed of movement is important on the correllion. all are big. yes, because actually four fingers. here are two. and so. e, yes, you need to have time to play with four fingers everything that a pianist pours out of ten. yes, uh, that's why you need speed, you need precision in all movements. and, uh, they need tenderness, and they need huge ears in general on top of their heads, so that all, all, all the details of the sound of bells, all the details of the mechanics, everything. well, understand, in execution time and control everything will play. yes, this is an anthropology podcast at the first and we, following olesya rostovskaya , dive, take off. let's take off to the area of ​​the termens. i am some kind of semi-old aunt who teaches something to someone all the time, i am his university, now
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they teach in the same place where she herself studied. and hmm , i also have a project that i love very much. and now for the second year. uh, well, you could say inspired by the current events. i always used to somehow children's concerts. well, we're afraid to say. so. this is very responsibly. and if something goes wrong, it will carry me into the fact that i love some eggs there, but for children, for example. this uninteresting attention smoothed out, yes, and everything went awry. like you, i've always been worried, and in this very e russian national museum of music, where are those only ac synthesizers in the world where there is a term? do it yourself terminus in the exposition. eh, here are two. yes, almost 2 years ago. uh, i was asked first to come up with an adult subscription, and then they say, come on, children, maybe i
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resisted, but by that moment i already had such a real fighting, comrade , pianist maria martynova e, with whom we have such a complete understanding of the ensemble and friendly, too, e, she teaches in the king of imsha and i came up with a subscription called, how to make music from everything and in particular at one of the concerts, which is called, how to make music from drawing we straight from the organ. they all pass next to the oldest russian organ, well, russian, he is the master of ladygast totogan, but from those organs that now in russia it is the oldest instrument. it's installed too. uh, in the museum of musical culture, the museum of music we are from the organ. we go straight to the exposition, look at the ac synthesizer and, from with the children, they don’t know that we are studying graphic notation with them, but in fact we are doing just that , asking there how the notes look for termvox. this is how ordinary notes look for terminovs, the anode for terminvox can
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also look like this. this is the graphic notation here just drawn on how to move the arms. it is not shown how move your hands in normal notes drawn what should sound? and in these children's concerts, which completely relaxed me in relation to children. uh, it turned out that children are absolutely cool in general, the same people as we are, with whom if you don’t need any fairy tales with them, everything is there, here, we are doing music with them, which is so beautiful and interesting in itself that there is no lining fairy tales. just don't and uh, that 's just the concert mentioned how to make music from drawing hmm i usually finish by playing, uh, the play that is now. well, at least a piece, maybe i'll play and i ask the children. uh, already guess by ear the voices of which animals they hear. and if someone wants to draw these animals, if
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the child is already tired, he can simply say, then which animals he heard. let's can you guess, let's try these too? this will now be, uh, the third part of my african. but it's a bird. and this is
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a monkey here there can be different women. there is such a play, in which this is created, respectively, backing track accompaniment, ready and the whole theremin part. i completely improvise. each time, in a different way, er, these voices of animals vary. and in general, it's a thrill. when the children are all vying there, well, go for a ride, and what music can you make? from all this, a very didactic remark, indeed from everything, yes, and here is another very one for you. by the way , i would say controversial version. the first ever musical instruments. still not
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drums, as some people think. here he was knocking with a stick in a cave, here is no the first musical instrument. this is mrs. and maybe mrs. rostovskaya chose all these instruments because she cannot sing, but as a teenager she is a young girl. i just knew how to sing. i even once sang in the small hall of the moscow conservatory, and then, when i began to play on the terms, i understood, but i completely cut down all the need to sing, which is typical of an ordinary person and already , uh, how much i have been playing since the end of the ninety -eighth year. i play at all. also something for many years. i haven't sung since then and not a few years ago. i discovered that already the muscles of my vocal cords, and i can no longer brain them
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manage. i already now, even if i suddenly want to sing, i won’t be able to do it now. nastya did it, but now it doesn’t, because like any muscle, they require training, what if you don’t sing for 20 years, of course, everything is already, but inside this sounds like you. yes, that is your voice. this is how it sounds, but can you imagine such a phrase or fragment there now? where would we say in accordance with female vocals would be. well, it's quite obvious. here i showed, as it were, normal notes, but for termvox. let's. i might, uh, play with them in my essay. uh, it's called clear waters, dear friends. and this is olesya rostovskaya - this is a podcast of anthropologists. and thanks for
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your attention. all the best. a free program podcast with you tonight. i am maxim trankov and my
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guest today is the legendary soviet figure skater, the legendary russian coach elena germanovna vodorezova. good evening maxim for you, as well as for me and for, probably, for many of our colleagues. eh, life is divided into two parts. it is sports and coaching, which one has the most weight for you when they start asking me about my activities in sports. i can’t even tell you what years i won something or what years they didn’t give me. in what year did i completely completely erase it, because, well, somehow my brain programmed it in such a way that for some reason it was all erased for me. and when i'm being interviewed. it’s very difficult for me to remember my sports activities, for me it’s somehow very hard to remember, therefore, probably, of course
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more than what is happening today. now i will help you remember a little, because i was just preparing a little for this interview and i know your sports career, because she really was great. you are the youngest soviet athlete who has ever taken part in the olympic games in the history of soviet sports. it was 76 years old. you were only 12 years old. yes, now i'm just training such children on them. sometimes i look, i think, that's how they would go to the olympic games now. probably it would be impossible. and then, uh, well, the bug took me and cooked me for a whole year. i didn’t speak anywhere, and a year later i came, so to speak, to the commission, then, yes, from the federation, he showed me and, uh, they gave everything. good. that's okay, even if you're so small. byte, on the one hand, it was probably easier, because you are little, you don’t really understand it, like at school. performed well. first bad tenth. that is, there was no such thing, but this was something that i did not understand yet politically. what
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is it? after all, the olympics is a struggle states. so let's just say it was completely incomprehensible to me. i came just for the next competition. well, the only thing that i had was that they took me, basically they passed everything by the hand from one to another, that is , the athletes who lived with me in the kostonovka brought me there, a bug didn’t take me there or one of the hockey players sometimes even introduced, so i was such a child. well, here, the cub of the regiment, yes, yes, yes, yes, therefore 12 years old. that is, you live. only with older women. yes, there are real stars, there are long rodnina pakhomova yes, and who we lived together. so, in general, we are so good with her and then on to all competitions. basically, there was no living,
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but there was some kind of hazing or you were treated very well. well, probably due to the fact that i was really small. eh, they treated me really well. and i don't remember such a thing, so that someone would me right here. do you remember what your mother told you when she escorted you to the olympic games on the first, i don’t remember. my parents are very modest and they are very calm. they treated everything, therefore, probably, i was very calm about everything. what happened didn’t work out great. that is, i didn’t have any excitement at all, but wait, you returned from the olympic games already a real star. that is, the entire union already knew, yes, they realized on the street how to deal with this. i am inclined to think about this too, that this is upbringing and due to the fact that my family is very calm and modest to success. and even the fact that even later, when i had athletes performing there. i have a mom sometimes even the last one found out what was going on with me there, yes, in my life, because
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all this was very calmly perceived well. well done. come on, it's not like that. you and your mother perceive today. you won three more medals at the european championships and a medal at the world championships. and you were the first to do this in soviet figure skating, but none of the medals were gold. what got in the way? what do you think, the young age is at first specific, because indeed, it can be good jumping, but not very good skating. and this there was a reason, as now, most likely, e not to put me somewhere high. and then , in general, they said, even at the first olympics when i went. here the federations told me what they said, they asked why it was so far, it seems like i made a splash there at the very first olympics why so far? because you have first dances, because

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