it was very calmly received well. well done. let's move on and that's it, not the way today's mother is perceived. you won three more medals at the european championships and a medal at the world championships. and you were the first to do this in soviet figure skating, but none of the medals were gold. what got in the way? what do you think, the young age is at first specific, because indeed, it can be good jumping, but not very good skating. and it was a reason, as now, most likely, uh, not to put me somewhere high. and then in in general, they said, even at the first olympics when i went. here the federations told me what they said, they asked why it was so far, it seems like i made a splash there at the very first olympics why so far? because you have the first dances, because you have the couples first men, everyone on the podium will wait a bit for our turn. as

now, but then you amazed everyone, as you already said, you are technically complex in parallel, do not carry out what is now, in principle, later. well, in general, i think innovation. it is always noticeable and always discussed and therefore always interesting and really beetle. in general, he overtook many generations. and the fact that sometimes i now meet my performances there and i see what i see, i see what i did it does. now it is necessary. this is a special program, yes, which is for children, we are just starting to educate children. this is a special industry and i was already doing all these elements then , that is, he tried it all on me, so , of course, this is the genius of the coach, first of all, in this and, accordingly, now a brilliant coach. but i found some of the mountains

with stanislam, alekseevich beetle summer, yes, uh, in the south and at his favorite base. unfortunately, he passed away the next year, but i've been proud all my life that i still trained with him. and this, well, it was just very hard hard. yes, it is difficult, and then i saw how you work and i became friends with many of your athletes. ah, you don't use that one, do you? still, they told you something that i'm not like that, i think it's even worse. the thing is, these betas really are. this is the gathering we hated we went to ride only because he was very fond of spearfishing, and we hauled such stones. yes, probably he also did it for the most part on a large number of throws at that

time he swam under water, when he swam under water, we sat down and waited for him to swim up as soon as the tube appeared from the water. we mean pretended to throw these stones. these are our moments. anyway , soviet children also want yes, yes, yes, somewhere we have freebies, it was we had very difficult cross-countries on stones, and really i was there we were little girls. fine? there were adults. i haven’t been with hotbeds all my life, i trained and there were moments when there was such a storm. and we ran right along the coast over the stones, and we could generally fly anywhere, and the guys just had time for us. including me picks up. that's how we were friendly from such difficulties. well, no, the sport has changed, and we live with you in another country, so every year figure skating changes anyway and now there is no point in doing it, because there are many other technologies are very many specialists

who are more professional. this is what soviet children do, and now our modern russian ones. children training intensity. uh, number of hours. there is some difference, too , we can not compare, if you know such obligatory figures, yes, which, for example, i hated with all my heart. and we started from 7:00 in the morning to 9:00 in the morning, and from 9:15 to 11:00 they already skated a free program. yes, that is 4 hours. you only ride in the morning and 4 hours. you can in the evening it's impossible to compare. even now i can’t imagine how this can be sustained, and plus the op has some kind of chreography. we certainly had a wonderful choreographer from the moiseev ensemble. he just recently had open lessons. all the management came to us, watched these open lessons. we just started the initial stage of the moiseev ensemble, so everything was very tough and professional and hmm incomparable. i think now, maybe the children would not stand it like that, that is, we are a generation

of freeloaders, well, it’s simpler, honestly, simpler what then is the reason for the modern generation, that the bar has already been raised so much for all these quadruple jumps? train less. again, uh, back to the fact that the coach is to blame, yes, who is ahead of his time and trying to be the best of it. a coach who wants to be first and accordingly he does everything and overtakes his time. and what motivated you, soviet athletes, and what motivates you now from another century? well, in fact, well, i do. well, what motivated you, you know? hey, i was thinking about that too i was asked something recently. i liked it. first of all, i really liked it even when they asked me if i didn’t

like anything. go figure skating there. i did not understand this question at all, of course, i liked it. we continue to communicate with you with an outstanding athlete with a great coach elena german and a water cutter you need to train every day twice a day and almost the whole day. yes, it’s not for you to explain to me, and who can withstand it, although you were also not an easy athlete and champions are absolutely not it happens. we tell you that we have found a place for you. you have never trained me, but you are very emotional, it is , on the one hand, emotional in work - this is one thing when you have to overcome. here is the physical. yes, there are a large number of hours, that is, for you, too, it was not always. you endured. yes, and then to the whole ivanovo. well, that's okay. it's a sport. that's right, you say simple with champions, not at all, i don't know who such simple ones are, probably, who just came together, well

usually difficult athletes. they are always champions. let's talk about your native, and for me, too, not someone else's club cska and it has always been the best school. well, if i don’t even know how to say in the union, but in moscow it’s definitely been in the union lately, yes, a and lately in moscow, yes, that is, everyone dreamed of getting into cska, uh, when i played for cska and i went out start russia and say cska i was proud of it. yes, now you feel that athletes, maybe less somehow it is scattered, that there are so many schools, what do you less now, even here the set is not as large as before. if we had queues on the street to sign up with us, that is, there is no such thing now, then i asked others about others. like like the same. in this connection, due to the fact that a lot of

private schools of a private school are located near the house and, accordingly, it is logical for parents to always take their child away. where it is nearby and start just with pleasure , then when the coach advises and there the parents see the prospect of their children. naturally, they then already lead professional clubs, but if in soviet times they went to schools, looked for talented children, yes, they invited coaches to the sections, including, well, this is in other sports, now maybe a coach should pay attention to private schools and find. maybe there are some talented kids there. here is a private school. anyway, they themselves then come, uh , to those coaches who, that they are parents, now, all this is available, all this sees, who is now better in cska. end of moscow if possible at home in a residential area, of course, when it's all nearby. it starts like this from the beginning. naturally, when you already know your parents very

well. now everything is sorted out. this is a separate topic for conversation, then they begin to delve into figure skating. here is the seething life, and they themselves determine who is better to hit. yes , therefore, everything now depends more on the parents, than on the coaches and now the parents choose they are the coaches. how do you feel about parents playing such a role? serious, that is, they are managers and coaches and parents and doctors and everything in the world. it's rather positive none. of course, i'm negative. if we really talk about professional sports, then, of course, i have a negative attitude, because, let's just say, we don't tell them about their professions. yes , there parents work as translators or doctors there? we do not tell them about their profession. why are they telling us? how to work? this is a bit wild for me. that is, i consider as if you led to

you either trust your son’s coach or you don’t, unfortunately, and you yourself know that a lot of good children disappear just because parents are zombies, this is the worst thing, because sometimes you don’t even take such a child because you already know its the end. yes, this story, because they delve into and ma- this is my mother's or father's ambitions. they want more mom or dad and a child of 15, as a rule, do not graduate, because it is impossible to withstand it. and in soviet times, there were such things here and there. in soviet times, there was no because, firstly, our parents all worked, they brought us to me, as for example , if you take my case, they brought me by 7:00 in the morning and they took me there at 6:00 at 7:00 in the evening. uh, work schedule of my mom and dad are now parents. they practically give their lives

, dedicate their lives and demand from their children for this. due to the fact that i have invested so much in you, accordingly, you should give it away so much earlier. so you came with the olympics of the seventy-sixth year, that because of this you received a state from the federation figure skating. at that time, at the age of 15, by the age of sixteen, i probably already had an apartment and a car, that is, comparable earnings now , and so on, more than my parents. they made me a work book. that is, there were some exceptions. yes, it seems to me that even now it’s more difficult to remember some things. it seems to me 250 and 300, in my opinion, some 400. or my parent got 120. i received much more. and what did you spend them on? well, how was i at that age, where did i spend, this i gave to my parents and everything, my parents to the post, because i also had teachers, very modest. then i

asked them where the dacha is, where are the apartments, where is everything, here is the car. well, already, uh, the car, then it was already an adult by this time already from eighteen. yes, right away. and, probably, she was engaged in driving lessons, probably two or three lessons. and after that , my teacher tells me everything is fine. come on by yourself so far and very lazy to walk i can go to the next improved car for me to spoil the money from this. in at such a young age, well, i don't know, again it's necessary to ask my relatives spoiled me or not. i don't think so. i am very calm about them athletes. well, you understand, again it depends on the person, when you see that you are so greedy that it is impossible, and that,

although on the other hand i am my athlete, i can honestly tell you that you should not be shy. if you want to earn, please earn but you before you leave work. you have to get the result, but now there are a lot of things besides sports. there are many options for athletes to earn money, that is, a huge number of ice shows, moreover, which even in the middle of the season go there for the new year. why is it bad and current athletes. so i want to ask you, this is bad and very good. i’ll explain to you why it’s not here, the first thing is that when we rode, so i know, there is also a native land, when it ended, she was offered to go to the american in this show, but they didn’t let her in, but she understands how i could make money, yes, earn, that is, it is over, and that's it. she needed to think about what i should do next. well, as if a coach, yes, that's it, there was no other way. well , i just want to say the possibilities are much greater now than before, for example. e. here i am

not at all the person who will go to the show. well, initially. i don’t care, it also had to be a person who knows how to ride in a show, who still knows how to entertain people. yes, somehow create a mood for them. i am not from this series of people. i mean, it's just not mine. and if, probably, i unsuccessfully married, then i would probably have something, well, somehow i had to think about doing something in this life. and uh, if there is such an opportunity, and people want it, thank god and thank god that these shows exist. i'm only for thank god that there is now the first channel, yes, which makes these is the cup of the first channel. this is also a show. that's great. that's what people are watching. this is interesting. this is something new, we didn’t have that. it’s just cool to remind you that today we are talking to you, honored coach

of russia, honored master of sports lena and cutouts. let's talk about the crown then , because, probably, the biggest victory in life for both me and you falls on the 2014 olympic games at our home where? and tatyana and i won, and you and your student , gifted by the centurion, again became the first in history, because you are the first russian coach in history who brought a russian athlete to the olympic games to victory yes. listen well, first of all, let's start with the fact that this is homemade yes, this is when someone else would have hit, here we are on homemade houses it was so cool to start with the same preparation as we were surrounded by this preparation. yes, from the moment when this path of candidates for the olympic team began then specialists were introduced. yes, doctors, that is, for our victories, in principle, the leadership has done

everything so far, it’s just these developments, they all remain. then remember how long we were at the training camp in case, yes, there were already such cool programs. that is, it really was already such over aimed precisely at olympus at the olympic podium. all the athletes were like that accordingly, the whole team won the first place, then we also had a team for the first time, by the way, in my opinion, yes, the team, that is, it didn’t hit. how do you feel about it, how was it? i represent her condition. well, and yours, of course, if not, but the thing is that, again , when i was sitting at the rentals, there is also this, and we do this in september. yes, the olympics were in february. and you understand that it is the team that is already the champion team. that is, she will claim gold. and even more so, closer to the olympics you are athletes they themselves understood that gold was, as it were, real.

yes, to be honest, i didn’t understand, that is, many people told me, but i was so sure that there was a us team at that time very strong and a canadian team i thought, well , america well, i won’t explain why i will explain my position why i don’t really believe, firstly, when the team was formed, we already had lipnitskaya, who was yulia yes, who was there for 15 years, and we didn’t know at all what to expect from her, how she would go out there in these stands how is she like that us was? zhenya plushenko is a veteran who is also. well, yes, and, well, that is, we had good dances, but we didn’t have a world champion at that time. we had strong couples more or less, and everything else was in question. so this is what you claimed. it was definitely right and there was such a situation that gorshkov called me

and said len decided to adeline that she would not be in the team of my fortune. you understand? no , of course, it was very hard for me and practically, when i hung up, i the husband said exactly what happened. he thought that someone died when i told this, well, as it were, he is to the end for him it's all like that. well, no, then he will skate individually. but i also had it half the trouble, but i had to tell her this. and when i came to the training, i was simply pushed out to this training to tell her, and when i said this, that is, there was a person and when you know, i saw for the first time when a person’s body comes off, that’s just it this is what it has become. well, for a very long time i could not put in order, that is, well, she couldn’t jump at all, and i understood that i needed to cook her on an individual basis anyway. and not only that, then they told me,

well, you need to bring it. i say, why? well, so that she was like a spare, that is, imagine that she had to come there to sit on all of you to see how you were on the pedestal and leave. that is, this colossal was a colossal push for her. now i want to tell you about this and tell you that i later said such a phrase to her. and you know you will go there sit in the stands, and you just look from the outside, how cool, how they accept, how the stands react to something, how the guys perform. it will be easier for you. you'll just see it already. and when she came back to moscow and i met her to meet another person. that's it, i realized that we can start. as they say, start and everything went. i mean, she seems to have dropped everything. and she came here, well, not to the olympics, but just to some kind of tournament, and she even went out to sing

chernyshov lena told me, i'm even afraid. she so good, don't be afraid to ride it, everything will be fine. and of course, this is her beginning. this is all to spur on, because yulia was generally just sus did not go and really deservedly, because she skated so great, and the whole world was already splashing her hand and , accordingly, when they went to training they announced the composition of the participants they said julia lipnitskaya and the people have already come to the stands. yes, i looked, then, of course, these were exclamations. and when they said sotnikov valley there , there was not a single cotton. yes, it spurred her on. at first. we very much fell very simply to the very bottom, and then we began to swim out of it, but later i still don’t know, maybe it seems to me, but this red coat. yulina remembers much more often than uh? legendary victory clothes. listen, well, indeed, julia then

made a splash. this is the red dress. that's really. this is how it all came together. this. well, as it were, it's normal. i 'll tell you from myself, it's just for me julia when i watched the team tournament. and in this expectation, what she will not do, and she went out and just so calmly so confidently skated two programs. i hugged her with tears in my eyes. i thought, lord, what a smart girl you are, how cool, an athlete, or what? it seems to me that this is a problem that the team tournament takes place before the personal one. well, do you remember when i remembered the olympics of the fourteenth year, when they had many olympiads, well, at home, i remember when the valley came out. well, you're so worried. yes, the pressure of coaches is rising, probably for everyone. i remember these floating stands from the flags. that is, they are not standing, but here they are are floating. and that's right, it was very scary all the time. i'll tell you honestly and the commander

helped me here and how, as you can see, i managed, i don't know how the commander helped me. i already knew how to behave. that is, i'm short there, if you watch two short programs at the olympic games, that is, i have. the first rental is on shaky legs. each element is barely made in personal . i have already left and drummed, what is called 100% no, well, here adeline helped, another situation, but here i am as a coach, this is because this was not repeated once at any olympics, these flags. you bring out an athlete. here is this silence then, on the contrary, the flags of the cougars, lowered and this sound of skates remained. this is where i have a very similar situation for some reason for the rest of my life. this is what i have left, the floating stands appear as a coaching question. and how a coach prepares, how a water cutters coach prepares for the olympics like a hell of a coach. well, first of all, you always trust your athlete. yes, that's how you prepare it. i well

, for example, you try to prepare in such a way, for what here. uh, the most important thing is coaching. here, uh, the moment the most important thing is to be able to bring the athlete to the start. this is the same. that is, you can tell, as you like, which coach is which athlete? well, if the coach can’t bring you exactly to that state in order to bring this form to the peak, yes, as we call it, then it’s pointless, but then i’m not just praising myself, here’s adeline to me in this regard, that is, inside training. here we come. i saw tula which i dreamed for me is very difficult. uh, that is, there have already been world championships medals of world championships. as a coach of the european championships and so on, i have victories at the russian championships, that is, well, as if i were in big tournaments and i myself recently competed in them, but the olympics, which i stood in

with a side, as a coach with my athletes. i gave myself very hard and when it was all over. more or less successful. i said i don't want any more. i said, well its here these sensations here these experiences i so die. you can, of course, to many coaches on tablets in general, that is, in order to stand up and in general to see an athlete from the fact that you are so off scale. here is the pressure. it may not even be seen. yes, some even estimates there, for example, it's very indescribable. by the way, no one ever spoke about this, but er coaching fate. it is very hard, and already many have a sick heart, and because of such experiences. somehow i tried. don't show any of those. well, i don’t have such that i’m just like that. i'm in it a little plan frozen. it seems to me that i don’t have such that i’m right here it happens. here sometimes

you even look next to stand the coach gives covers. he know him. that's how it goes in the hands of the go . you have never seen such moments. i saw, of course, well, i have them speaking of tremors, huh? i, as we have already said, are quite hysterical, nature, as an athlete was, of course, the same coach was. yes, but the bottom line is that, as an athlete, i learned to extinguish myself and learned to set myself up for competitions, i learned to go to the start. a as a coach, i didn’t understand what to do with myself, because if my hand started shaking like that, yes, that is, i just clenched it into a fist and kept it in my fist. like this, so that they do not see, but if i relaxed her, i still have her, i cursed at myself. why are you shaking, that is, is it still like this for me? well, at the olympics, no, i need other tournaments, i already talked calmly and there are none. i was also worried about this, that they would see that i was not at any other tournaments, that i was not this calm one

, they were not there. well, so calm. this it was impossible to be real. i'm really calm about them. i'm not calm at the moment when they don't ride, that is, no one sees. yes, that is, they do not see there. and when they ride. yes, i'm a fan. i root for them, first of all they are given. they are just watching. yes , they are complex, which is why there are many non-single such situations in general. are you going to competitions or are you going there? athlete? what in general? he just knows how we say yes, cotton legs , at this moment, by clicking somehow, to catch something to say a word correctly tell ivanovich to the royal heavenly our therapist your massage therapist also know him very well, he was very wise. and here he is without him, probably, that's 50% in this olympic. there would be no medal, exactly, if not more, and he told me at one moment my legs were broken. i say, my legs are wadded or i climbed the stairs. he says, max, you know how here and there he mentioned his former wards

, great champions in other sports, there such and such said. i say like that the best legs for athletes. it is when it’s hard for you to climb the stairs, so he says, just think about it. over this and now today you ride and analyze, and i went out, skated cleanly and like this, damn it, in fact, when the legs are sagging easier, and you want me to say so. that's why the coach should be able to surround himself with such a team, because not so much as he somehow explained you. he just set you up psychologically correctly, plays exactly one correct word, and everything was saved for you - the athlete. he, in principle, what is it, like a guitar? you need to properly set up to catch this string, how the instrument tunes, so that it plays well, the athletes should tune it the same way. you must, and the coach must know your every string. well, here we had it turns out, 11, if they're wrong. olympic champions in sochi with a team

tournament of 10 in the team and adeline 11 continued their careers until the next olympics until the next olympics, uh, not everyone, but the coach. how to throw me away, nothing happened, they now lost first place at the olympics in the 60s, i still sleep calmly. but i won, and you won, so i just came to the training again and started working. everything, as if when i see my athlete on the podium , this is enough for me. i understand that the work is done. i already, in principle, here he is not interested in yesterday. do you remember who was adelina's main rival for 12 years. at 12 they were called two prodigies. so adeline has such a short path, and lisa i just admire and applaud her and always

root for her with my soul, because well, she she just proved that nothing is impossible. this is the first and that's it for all the girls who finished. and i think they bite their elbows. yes, even it seems to me that, in principle, they could also perform , but i’ll just say my opinion about all this, when i finished my 30-odd years there , i didn’t finish in the fourteenth, after all, but in the sixteenth. i just didn't know what to do. i think so half my life i have been skating, and i can't do anything anymore. i didn't do well in school. i'm not okay studied at university. i just went to the skating rink and lived according to the schedule skating rink, house mode skating rink, house mode and now i have a regimen. no , i don’t need to go to the skating rink, what should i do? i think that when you are 17 years old, you finish well at 20:1 and you have already won the olympic

games and finished already. with an apartment with a car, as you say, yes, there are possibilities. the most important thing is that you have opportunities in front of you, all doors are open, because you are young. you can go to school, you can do whatever you want. no, it's possible, but i here in 30 there was more than. downright scary. i have a wedding there right away, right away there is a child and let's somehow earn money. listen. well, again, the question is, what is it that you just wish i had won the olympics early. well, it is very difficult and 18 years to start a new life. this is also very difficult, so many where go fu, very rare. uh , i don’t remember anyone, well, that’s probably only in the semenenko family studying for another profession. this is the only one, in my opinion, yes, yes, in my opinion, now, but the main others are anyway, i think so i also told my athletes more than once. you can try

where it is, and there they all think that they are waiting for everyone everywhere. you came out so cool. yes? i'm this, yes, i 'll look, you'll ride until you're torn off sooner. here you will ride. this is yours, that is, the original anyway, guys , we explain that this is already their profession. anyway, you do it better than you would be a doctor better than being a singer, because people have been studying for this since the age of seventeen, and they will still be better. and you're better at this professions. that's what i think so thank you very much for this conversation. it seems to me that we talked very well, and i emphasized a lot of interesting things for myself for a long time , so everything is very comfortable, yes, chatting. we can do a lot. it was a podcast, a free program with you was maxim tronkov and my guest today, the beautiful elena

vodorezova. thank you. i was also very pleased. you see, what a thing we get today as guests are two heads of football and hockey refereeing, pavel kamantsev and alexionisov. good night former president khl is now the head of zenit, alexander ivanovich medvedev, how did you say that successful refereeing experience in the khl is not in demand in football? pavel can you say something about this? you agree that they are not in demand, i can’t say, firstly , when we just started judging, we turned to our colleagues, so we have the experience, the one that we can use, for example, where we got the awards, it was also our idea, but we understand what she is. it's just that my colleagues have e, it floats

and you can stimulate due to playoff matches with ultrasound, we just did this in futsal. we have higher stakes in the final stage in the russian cup, the stakes are higher and of course. when we talked with my parents, we said that your opportunity to earn money lies in what, if you take out the first part of this season, you get into the top of the ranking there. here spring is your earnings there you will earn. i can’t say that refereeing management is somehow unique , and how it differs a lot. that's how we discussed the fact that different schedule uh-huh different. uh. well, the rules are different after all in hockey. i am not an expert. well, it seems to me. in hockey, in basketball it's like two in terms of martial arts two different poles a-a. aleksey well, really about this kind of interpenetration. you have something to take from football, if if pavel says that they studied with you, of course you have, because in football, well, in my understanding. you know how they have them better, honestly,

the material base. yeah, it's understandable and we must always admit that football is the number one sport in the world. yes, let's say they had a good program, which we also saw with us, in my opinion, mentors are called yes, talents are mentors. we have this story. we also borrowed from colleagues who we are now also working on. and so this is a very simple thing, but we have expanded a little on the specifics for ourselves, and we have operating orbits, we make logistics for them in such a way that they come to cities; other and operating khl orbiters themselves tell local colleagues to local guys, young, novice judges, how act in certain situations lectures and practical exercises. a very strong help specifically for local colleagues , and this and this are all operating orbits, all top arbitrators. what methods were used before and what are now different things in general different science has now stepped forward, of course, certainly. we already have analytics, as such, which uses instant. well then there is mileage is another thing with this plus. we have. uh,

we use the watch chest rhythm sensors. we are in our third year now. we track the daily routine, how people perform physical preparation. well, it’s more about tracking professional growth , that is, everyone can learn the rule, but as you can see, we are now publishing negotiations and, it seems to me, it was the judging that opened it up, like what, from what? it consists that it is not making five or four key decisions in a match. this is constantly monitoring the game of negotiations so that it does not flare up, so that the players calm down, so that there is trust in your decisions, that's all. well, you discuss something, you explain, if you do it, i play correctly convincingly it's easier, why do experienced referees of the game, as a rule, do not flare up, because they are good psychologists due to experience and help to solve it. that's it. our task is to teach them to reveal this human potential. uh-huh, and already there to invest resources, and not in such a way that it’s just agulno for everyone to give a chance and try

to grow everyone in the khl there is so 300,000 rubles. for a conversation per month. i knew that you started these projects. yes, why is it impossible for a hockey coach to talk about the work of judges? let's, let's go to the root. and what is the difference, let's say us from football? because when seven seven eight seasons is like a leader. when we came to one of the first meetings, we still had it in the khl, and then our colleagues said a very important point to the board of the federation. understand for our sport, not for the judges or for the sport, there was a story when i say that's all on the ship, and the judges are next to the boat, well, no matter how close they are, they are not on the ship nearby, so the main task was the idea, and i think that we have achieved, that we are now sailing in the same ship; there is a cauldron that is boiling inside, but splashing sometimes from the boiler. no need. you can figure out something to fix something to do, we understand that someone may not be able to restrain himself, so all

the emotions after the game come immediately and sometimes the coaching staff with them, when you talk to the leaders, time passes and over time there on morning. they understand that the person that he was talking about. he was wrong. down, this kind of understands, but i explained, because the work of a commentator is evaluated by the work of a football player, and the work of a coach is evaluated by dismissal and dismissal. there it doesn’t matter at all about the work of a judge in the khl, he says, in general, the work of the court is not evaluated by the refereeing department. if you talk to professional judges, you don't think everything is fine. they are such untouchable people withdraw money money, and very much. good and him there what fines were, what is. and refereeing penalties come from a one-year contract, if a player influenced, and oh, if the referee influenced the result of the match , he had earlier warnings from this year. we, that is, we first warned about that from this year there are no warnings, money immediately goes from one and a half, there up to five to

ten percent of the annual contract. even if hypothetically there, well, let's say, let's call the figure 2 million rubles. imagine that a person has an annual contract of 2 million. you write him a fine of 3-5% per game. yes , respectively, well, even 5%, when 100,000 people do not receive this money. but i think it hurts a lot in my understanding. well, that is, there for one or two mistakes that led the head. approximately how much does keep quiet, but now increased this year. yes , we now have the most difficult first year, when, well, the top referee is something in the region of 603-64 matches from the court fines for talking about refereeing pavel in football. this is what will work or what was given at all. we have already chosen the other way, so i agree that there is an absolute logic in the khl, but i think that there is a peculiarity, and it lies in the fact that each club in the khl has its own voice and representative of its internal corporate work. still, uh rfu is separated from the clubs. although there are people in

executive committee in committees and so on, but still , refereeing is separate from lik and we have no influence, so the clubs will linger. a lot of people can't, but what you can notice is that our biggest clubs have been talking less lately and we're not penalizing it anymore. and we went the other way, we decided to analyze the topic of refereeing. well, that is , everyone said that you were closed there. you that black nothing is clear. what are you doing? we said, ok, we will tell you everything that does not affect the refereeing process. that is, if the release negotiations and mine are not there i know that after three weeks they no longer influence the judge. he got a rating. he survived it, he judged the next match, the fans, everyone also calmed down. and it comes out as some kind of educational material about how it happened. okay, you want to see how this referee is preparing for the super bowl match, it’s not a question from the moment of the station to the end of the match, we will show it, accordingly, for my part

, i see that now people have become more trusting. and well, if someone wants to speak out, he can speak out fine, we have, well, a penalty for negative statements not in terms of the quality of work, anyone can say that i didn’t like the quality , we will contact the troops, there we will consider the moments. we have there unfounded criticism, and, as it were, underestimating the honor of dignity and other things. we have fines, and the ftc works very well for us. we have a suspension of football subjects for more than six months, that is, it cannot be said that we do not protect referees, it is simply impossible to discuss it in the khl at all. yes, we can not criticize, going beyond some moral. norms, if people feel, then what do they have there is a certain support, they begin to work calmly, as soon as people start to twitch, like zero, well, as in any job, any manager, as it were, starts to worry, but still do something wrong in sports, especially, look at it in hockey . everything is very simple there is a rule in the summer.