yes, pagers died in 2002, mobile phones appeared, so 2002 is not associated with any show business in the village , nature, utrish forest, sea, rivers. it was so wonderful you just extended your life by 4 years. got away from it all. and what were you doing? you just somehow spiritualized something inhaled pure energy. eh, the fields of the russian field or something hugged the birch trees there, in short, i was surrounded by beautiful people who, just like me, enjoyed nature and simply lived from the heart. in the forest they went to the spring for water, set fire to pots prepared a ride on them, spent the night, slept under the stars. they say, it is necessary in the morning to

make tea to go to the spring of water to make a fire to live. just at that time, by the way, even my brother, in my opinion, was filming there. there you could earn 5,000 rubles. as far as i remember, or 10 participated, as a decoy was a front. and now it was such a local bollywood now you are with us, i understand, i mentally ask, is your soul or not. it's all you want too kaifu i'm incredible. i get high from moscow to be honest, i that's how i fell in love, this city does not let me go at the age of 13. i'm such a one hatch is called incredible. every day i go to moscow food. god, how i love this city. how can

i feel good here? what a buzz i get just from the fact that i'm walking down the street, but i live outside the city and live in the center, but moscow is huge for me, of course, listen, but this is the door to radio maximum, it's right at the exit from metro chekhovskaya yes, the artist's house , there is this door or not this door and you know, something like that. i remember this particular door. and how to approach her? i don't remember. i go out all the time, it seems that here radio maximum would start broadcasting the fifth floor of the moscow news building. we had a plank floor there when the grandmother's cleaning lady came. so, it all compactly began some kind of pause hole on the air, but it doesn’t matter, then this house was completely demolished, in principle, we moved to the oktyabrskoye field. and we started just at the edge and ended the studio. radio maximum i could see the big city and all its pulse, you know, that is, tverskaya, all these lights right here, we were sitting like that taxiing such a city, can you hear us, and

we see you. we will ask you very much to sing something now, because masha and i are without a guitar. well, you are with instruments. what should i drink right now? here's anything, i love your song, my favorite, well, after yellow. eye, uh, my favorite portreck. if i don't know how far she 'll go, i don't know i can try, but she's gorgeous. let's try. i 'm looking for my sky, sandwiched by a wall, i'm a river blender. and so my sky is not with me. it's up there above the ground. at the foot of the day my sky does not see me.

na-nai i puerto rican. what am i doing here is incomprehensible to the country of all puerto ricans they put there behind this, my village is high above the earth, the sky, weaving it, thought

it was impossible. this is masha, by the way, which song are you most proud of. here, what would you say at a concert, if you had not sung it yet, you would have sung it for an encore. they ask you masha , come on, another difficult question, because everything depends on the mood, the situation , the context, but there are songs that, let's say , have passed the test of time. yes, and they, oddly enough, do not bother at all. here is such a song is the earth, for example, yes, agnia barto , i have all the songs on the verses of the fiery river, a poem. so i always appeared this song. so, little by little, some songs

remain, some are eliminated, some remain and are formed in this way. yes, some kind of necklace of songs that i carry on myself all my life. hear about the earth. we will definitely talk more. this gorgeous song is also one of my favorites, but i'm sorry after lyubochka all because lyubochka is one love. you see, this is love for centuries and some kind of phenomenon, how can it be that so many years and usually if the song goes right there, like macarena or there stupid song was the face of the singer of the time, which does not have a single letter dick. and so she, like, immediately lay down, but for the fifth time already, you know, and then we’ll take any pink floyd song practically, except for the song that should be recommended there, well, from the fifth to the sixth time. but the sixtieth does not get bored. your lyubochka, she went right away. but still getting high, how can it be? it's absolutely phenomenal. well, i

think so, the secret is only one love is the key to to all worlds, blank. i think that i remember the word liba, they get bored because there was no word natherling, otherwise it would ruin everything for me for some reason, just lyubochka blue skirt. this is all very touching, very good. and how many years the skirt has already grown and the magnificent group. damn, this is yes at the time of writing the song. i never hear at all. it was only then these nations, then, and indeed today, by the way, i read an interview in the morning, then mallorca is not so cool after all. no, he said that material success is the best that can be happen to you. i say, i don’t even know what more. here to ask began to play. there, in principle, there is both lyubochka and

the radio hijet all around. but then, by the way, there is a video where fans of the hollis group found another melodic move and said, but still we were even earlier than they were. we also embossed fragments. and so we can go deeper. in fact, it flies in the air and can sometimes fly in to look after. although it can fly in, as mikujaggeru flew in. remember for and him or strongly my baby, he has caidlang sued for the constants, craneston,

a famous artist, the more, in my opinion, and michael jackson received in his time. and well , in short, everyone who is something. e mccartney , too, by the way, was presented, although it would seem that he would be there, where the children, where he came up with everything, everything is already, listen, but in the same year. uh, you remember, uh, the factory was born. this is a grandiose project on channel one, when all these talented guys from different cities of russia thought and cherished the hope that, damn it, i would become a star before the tv set. here, please, and konstantin comes up with a factory of stars. where he said that there will be more, the second third and yes will have to work in three shifts to hold on. by the way, at the factory , each factory is clear that it sounded like what kind of producer and first factory it had and was driven by igor matvienko and, accordingly, these are his

notes. they could hmm permeate this whole factory, and we remember, uh, for me this is one of the brightest factories, because it gave birth to the factory group like never yes put what the factory roots are about. there these guys these two groups turned out to be famous, in my opinion, and turned out to be the most successful. yes, yes, well, plus misha grebenshchikov, in my opinion, yes, you know, there were all these people then. i thought, i how much it all e will be. eh, well, that's it, this is a direct channel, and i think, how much is all this, er, durable, and such a thought came to me. no need to think about it, time will put everything in its place. then new

waves hit everyone in the same 2002 and a duet was born from two wonderful guys and vlad topalov, uh, absolutely wonderful voices and amazing thing. i took it there a long time ago. suddenly, who remembers, suddenly i come to work on the radio to my maximum and there is a huge crowd at the checkpoint, i can’t get to the horizontal bar, because i rolled my pass and i see seryozha lazarev standing in the crowd and he met my eyes and the crowd, he says to the man , which i first was on tv part of an owl, and all in russian all sorts of stones. i'm like no. and i forgot myself, and seryoga says and these vids came send vidos, where he is a very small, quite a teenager in checkered pants touching i have him fidget was still in the group, then he was visiting sergey lazarev i really went nuts, i don’t remember, it’s a problem with memory and we already found out that you, in general, because of you, uh, music on

the internet or there, what happened at all at home? the thing is, let's start with the fact that i work. radio maximum and this is the radio station do not spoil, because there are no more russian songs playing. yes masha bears we opened and the end of the film we twisted the first and dances minus my god, and we did not twist someone. we are in 2002, what is important is the second, in my opinion, some kind of slight decline has begun, but a very interesting group has appeared now, and earlier the leningrad group is understandable, but they didn’t play it because they cursed, and we can’t ignore a couple of sad moments that happened in 2002. it has passed away. your favorite singer is mikhail krug by the way, a wonderful person, and a good

singer there indeed also this year. unfortunately, the singer mikhey passed away. that's what i remember, he is also a wonderful person and a delightful singer. yes, he is a man who made for hip hop. i really like this kind of rap not rap. but it's like hip-hop and reggae and it's real singing. this is beautiful poetry, this is a person who is sincerely completely sung by this big city, yes, it’s impossible to say that this was such a song, by the way, the tattoo also shot right in 2002, they didn’t start this year, but it’s absolutely we recorded our album in the studio first. and these little girls came, and uh, they had a producer knock down, and i was in a child psychologist. yes, i heard i no, i don't know, but

uh, as a child psychologist, i remember him for the fact that he scolded them and took away their mobile phones. if we need to work, we do. now he is such a real real producer. i think poor girls. how does he torture this castle? well, this one, i thought, to be honest, that it was his niece's children or something? well, what a strict dad? uh-huh, it turns out that dad was e. well, in what creative sense is it that lena katya's dad is in the dune group yes, i heard this forever at that time in general, and yulia volkova, by the way, performed in the children's party fidgets in the same place where seryozha lazarev came from. something like that, and just when 2002 covered the whole world, he sang, even there japanese. and china all sang without exception. i went crazy. i need yes, at that moment

i couldn’t reach the forest. i understand that this song was a fire. masha sits in disbelief. this summer casta no castanets. and you say you don't know the populus. you see, but they caught you and set you on fire. is it about secrets, is it caste no natasha koroleva is sleeping with me lyubochka is seriously called natasha by men. give me an autograph, please.

some and there, in my opinion, continue to dig until now. that is, people do not believe at all. he refuses to believe that seryozha has passed away. i knew him. personally, i can say that he was an absolutely amazing person, and i know that you even changed the line in your song earth, because it seemed to you that this line could be connected with what happened. here in the film brother 2 this song sounded and there are the words earth fill me with snow melt such love will kill the world. and when i found out that sergei had died, there was snow. i decided to change it

line, and since then i've been singing love will save the world and i somehow. do you understand, are you ready to sing? not blanks today but nevertheless. i just saw what kind of people hello hello. hi hi.

earth me love

will save the world. tomorrow i will come for you.

the earth does not see me love will save the world.

the land of me and at the end of 2002, by the way, the film by sergei bodrov sr. bear kiss was released. this is a fairy tale film, where seryoga also starred, sergei bodrov jr. and well , let's assume that he went into a fairy tale of heroes. yes, we will all meet there, but left. he forever young, remember the song, incidentally , too, said. yes listen forever young, forever drunk was a song, too, by the way, the soundtrack from brother 2, if young forever

drunk is played, you don’t know this song. class, thank you very much remember. yes, yes, yes, in the same year, by the way, oksana fedorova for the first time in half a century of the miss universe contest wins it and becomes miss universe , the beauty really liked it. and we still remember the sign of some 2002 disc players, what else appeared? icq remember appeared the first thing, uh, well, as if these and there

for the first time we began to put these colons and brackets, uh, snacks for beer appeared at that time for a foamy drink appeared very widely earlier. we ate only foamy chips, but roaches, and we decided to monetize all these and in 2002 a huge amount of all sorts of fish snacks, some kind of such stripes , all sorts of fish crackers appeared. micro skirts in general, micro everything appeared then sports suits. by the way, yes a little skirt. listen, sporty costumes in them even went to clubs. but no, nothing, if you go somewhere , uh, farther away from moscow, then they are still there, by the way, in 2002 fitted cardigans appeared, which the girls fastened with two buttons. it seemed to me that they were cardigans with buttons without buttons at all, just such a chip and they fastened

these tops here with two buttons, which were called tube tops, that is, like a trumpet top and a good press, the girls demonstrated already in 2002. then there were phone cases they wore. here so the men on the belt are definitely yes, yes , well, somehow all this went somewhere, and then just such an ambulance and when he called, the phone was something so cowboy in this movement. yes, yes, yes, maybe we'll sing something. and something now guys, let me remind you that today we remembered the distant and beautiful 2.000 second year. i went, and you enjoy the creativity of the group for now.

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good night everyone! who does not sleep to everyone who watches podcasts on the first today we have a literary podcast. let them not speak, let them read, of course, we will talk today, but we will speak precisely in order to awaken in us passion for the pleasure of reading passion for reading good and different books , and we are today's guest, a wonderful poet, there is dmitry vednikov, we will start a conversation. e with what you've been doing in recent years. you took up essay writing and published several books. essay. they have gained popularity.

some of them i have here is the last book that i would like to talk about in more detail. this book is called the immortal dragonfly. one name what is worth. and how did it happen, how organic it is. why did it happen that poems for some period became a thing of the past and these texts appeared, which can be called an essay or something else, when i was 15-16. it can, even 13 14 i suddenly began to read, if the block we know the block, how outstanding, perhaps a great poet, but very few people know him and soistics. it was very cool. i opened it and got up to read it. i have never been able to write anything. similar to prose. she just never gave me the only record i experience. well, except for of course, this is how your studios are, because sitting in your studio you can only experience envy, how beautiful it is. i experienced. this is a library that i finally ended up in a library. and hmm i tested prose writers. i thought

it was an amazing thing when you kick like spider. and this text is not poetry. and this is some kind of lesson, which is impossible to do is impossible to do. it was out of my mind. unable to cover the problems and suddenly, when the poems left. they are gone. i already have something to consider there, by the way, me. i've been writing poetry, really 29 years, 25 years. i told her, by the way, i'm now 54. a total of 29 years, if you count, although not a fact, but still three decades is almost round yes, yes, the poems have recently appeared again, but we'll talk about this when the poems are gone for 10 years and i suddenly realized that i could weave a knit rose. it's a completely different story. it's a completely different knit. these are completely different things , you perceive it as prose, yes, prose is beyond my power. there are real prose writers out of their minds. petrushevskaya tatyana tolstaya leo tolstoy dostoevsky yes i no i can i can't write

stories. i can't write novels. i can write. i only i know that i am very good. maybe i'd better if i can write, cool, yes, we in the library in the library requires the utmost sincerity. i can write very good text if aesthetic word sincerity, it will come in handy again, of course, but e, it is generally accepted that the word essay was invented by a rebel, well , or uh, canonized it, or what? yes, his book, which we call experiments, this is lessa. you will laugh. i always go back to the past. remember blokovsky 13 14 years old. e at 12 years old. i was reading a mantenay at another dacha. she was i read these experiments to manten. it seemed to me that these are very cool huge books in three-length short things. well, what is an essay, this experience is not in the sense of expiration. what do you mean try? yes i know exactly how to say in english, e he

er, it seems to me that maybe i'm wrong. i , unlike you, was not so keen on him. he is in his childhood, maybe he could write anything, but to a dragonfly, and smells about the morning about homeo. remember what an amazing phrase i don't remember who said it. god forbid, if i came up with it myself, either i dreamed of a dragonfly, or i dreamed three times. here it seems. that this is the key to the cse, there must be some kind of angle sliding you understand, yes, there must be the end is clear who dreamed of who, who dreamed of whom and the montene shows this time, because you already remember that the antenna first has one statement, and after a few pages or there, the chapter has the next statement, which contradicts the first, i see well, this is, in fact, such french culture of allah fukophorizm logical, but you still have an essay, in my opinion, not about that hmm i think it's not about that and not about the blog. it seems to me so. in a sense, i also had about the block. you

probably know that, uh, he was very sickly boy, and he had constant some kind of sore throats an interesting fact. here, in fact, the essay begins with this. it does not begin that alexander alexandrovich is a great block, the russian poet begins with this son. when she was little, he had a lot of sore throats. and it was generally believed that he was sick. you understand from what, that is, and then you can enter some kind of emotion, right? that is, this is the key is the key is the key with which you can open a small, secret door. e in a very small e closet, of course. well, that is we can assume that i am the ocean there and now we could look at it without leaving the studio. by the way, i could come up to try to open there is no door. by the way, i suggest you make a door somewhere. it's a good idea for a door , you know, so that you can go there and try to open it. i think that e soloist dmitry vednikov works exactly like this, but opens the door. you call it a key. i

call it a door for myself. e door, which, as you now correctly formulated, is based on an unusual angle of vision. yes, for some emotion for some happiness is, after all, a positive thing. yes, look we just said on coal vision, a terrific idea on coal on coal, coal vision and it's the future of coal. vision you understand that in fact, vision, however, there is coal. it's either fuel, or color, or action. well, you know, burning out? now you have already started writing an essay. we just saw this charcoal vision door. well, here's a provocative question. eh, how old am i? no, how old am i? i even know from your books, because there is always rushing about measured, coreids, and so on and so forth, but still my provocation. that's what ah, an essay is a key or a door or an entrance to some kind of

joy, some emotion, some kind of coal vision. what is the name of how we are not necessarily joy, but it may be anxiety, it may be anxiety, but still, and how interesting it is for others. that's what the poet is counting on here, what the poet is counting on, you know, i noticed that dmitry, i noticed that when there were no poems, and you were writing some post there now. banned or currently allowed network does not matter. yes, a good post by and large, the ats post is short, of course, and some enthusiastic people came to you and thank them for their delight, people who said dmitry borisovich this poem and you always twitched, because you always understand the difference. here you are between a poem, but they, well, relatively speaking, they thought it was written in such a berlibre, yes, which is simply written in the form of prose, but you know the difference between berlin and just fasting, come on, you know the difference between lyre and prose, it rests on a different pull.

remember akhmatova said that this poem, when she remembers, she raved about her without heroes all the time, that the main difference from all the others, and genres is that the thrust in the poem should carry out the thrust, which he meant, she andreevna is a big mystery of the furnace in the furnace. gorgeous traction or traction is a whirlpool, but remember with a mander-shtam when he keeps his eyes shut on his own traction. he himself also treated paper like a dome to empty skies. and this is actually the answer, and you always clearly understand that poetry is different from an essay the best thing is that the connections there are broken or created in a completely different way. there is a whirlpool there. yes, the baronco that is addictive can be, uh, this one. no. it could be

vera libre there's another funnel there, when you stand in my way so young so beautiful. do i offend you, - said. i once, when a girl came to me. she stood in the doorway with frost and smelled of perfume. you feel the difference between the first that i started to read the block, yes, and sex, which are the same words and about the same, but also not that yes, came from outside. explain, it's almost impossible. we always feel like it, i guess. i have favorite places, in general , you can guess it from the books of money. you will now do and this, but let's try to see if i got to the point. here is an essay called very symbolic. let nothing end badly very er, important, in my opinion, the thesis now you never know where the text will begin. that's how it will end, sometimes you know, and how will it start like the earth and the sun to give out? ah, that is , anyway. which text shows its end more

your final element, i'll tell you in a different way. do you understand what's the matter, when poetry comes, do you get sick? uh-huh now akhmatova said not well, remembering some simple woman who helped her with the housework spoke to another woman just as simple. she andreevna let her hair down like a deer, which in itself is already ridiculous. he walks and hums. here is this strange deer with her hair down, which walks and buzzes, this is a sound that has come to you and you cannot honk. and it's not necessary. there may be, in fact, it may be would drill, but he comes to you to grieve to look for ways ta-ta-ta-ta. you fly, you write this pathetic quatrain for 2 days, because first it comes to you. mayakovsky spoke about this, you must draw it out. by the way, you notice that i said ta-ta-ta-ta. i thought i'd finish this line. this is just the first aging that came after the break, i did not finish.