what is the difficulty in figure skating? now it used to be considered the most expensive kind, is it tennis? yeah, and now suddenly we got to the same line and it is believed that figure skating is someone i know here. i'm saying that you won't give up bringing me, right? no, it's very expensive. i went straight to the heart, because i have to take a lot of additional tackles. here it is, everything is very necessary, everything has time to be done. netkitki. increased. no, damn, about the same, yes, and i'm of the same opinion that tricks are good money for the coach. it's the coach's job. seriously in time, which is allotted. yes, everything that should get with a guy is still interested in him. i am an all young coach. now i will, please do not discourage the children from skating. do not yell any obstacles, on the contrary, support him. whisk. here oh

, it turned out oh, it's gone, that it got to the music, in general, everything is interesting. well, this is not a gingerbread, it is he himself who feels like a gingerbread, not what i give him, he himself. i have a task for him to feel like a person who has something happened then it will be a gingerbread. no, it doesn't work when he's on his own. that's a friend, and that's it. even the eyes are different. i watch my eyes burn. in general, i'm looking for athletes whose eyes are on fire. and now you are following the european championships, for example, those who have qualified for the world championships. how can i not follow? well, he asked me a question for you then let's just say the level, well, figure skating didn't really collapse without us. the absence of a struggle collapsed in the world,

then the absence of the most serious programs for women, the absence of ours is very interesting. in couples in pair skating, well, what are they paired ? lord, house, my god, what is it, so i looked, i couldn’t watch all the women. i have such 12- year-old children at the rink, they skate much better. yes, that's why i don't know what the icub international soviet skaters think of themselves. so i wanted to say, to whom it is beneficial, they are not beneficial, for sure. they lost all the money. i just received a call from japan, they had a japanese championship and if they collect somewhere up to 14-15.000 always. well, the truth was hani, this is it, now they are collected six. and sponsors began to turn their heads to say that this is actually not for that. they sponsored all this here, so

i think that soon they will grab their heads and realize that without us it's not the same, and then it was interesting for the audience. god forbid, there were halls, maxim, well, you yourself understand that if it’s not interesting to watch who will go and who will buy a ticket, because there was always a struggle and people saw it and they understood that it was going on everything was very serious, that everything was very high , it is a sport of the highest achievements. yes nobody does not allow himself. that's how it is now to ride in europe, there's somewhere in the fourth fifth, probably, well, god well, it's indecent. yes, even, but after all, the european championships here in recent years. that was the struggle of three russian single skaters of three russian couples. in europe, it's probably not very interesting to watch how the russians hold the next russian championship, let them pull up that they can't do it. why? i say that we always asked tom

in all forms, because we were reaching for ourselves, but america held on japan held on someone else popped up. i understand that the easiest way is to push us back in all forms, so as not to get in the way. but we moved further away, who cares, now our return to the world arenas is being actively discussed. and what conditions do you think? acceptable none i consider unacceptable none, so that they don’t put questions to me, don’t put boundaries on me. you will only come out when you are there something. sign something else without a flag without anything. what is it. what is it? why? who has the right to tell us what to do? well i agree, as it were, if we go under the olympic anthem and the flag it's good for our athletes to come out, because i have insane pain for those who will not make it to the age of figure skaters for another four years. short thank god that there are

some shows there. where to leave. the only thing i'm very grateful for is that people don't cum. there in the fourteenth year. keep such a commercialization of our sport, when an athlete can skate in ice shows, interview great coaches and so on. i do not support because you are leaving the sport. i'm in charge trainer. i can't support it. i want all the athletes who are on their feet now to stay here, after winning all the olympiads. you're going to be an olympic champion, anyone went, right? and so i'm interested in us staying here, so that we can be quickly admitted to the competition in which we have always dominated, i understand that you are telling that the first three places are in pairs. in general, we used to have pedestals, three dances three in these pairs, no one ever even thought, uh, and the winners were girls and

boys. well, three failed. but to whom no one wants it right, therefore , in general, i see that everyone happily agreed that we are not on international time. we'll be back. i know it, for sure. when i interview immediately after the competition, i very often hear from coaches and athletes, and it is difficult to find motivation in these conditions of international isolation. what do you recommend? where to draw it, if you come to you as to your home? you have here the atmosphere is working for you the atmosphere is to find something and you succeed, and you grow and you create create together with the coach. this is such a creative job. what motivation, for the sake of this it’s generally just worth skating. i have been for so many years.

i work as a coach, that they know for sure that when a person is on fire, when they manage to create something very interesting new for themselves, then he will come here, will ride, will do and everything else, this must be preserved . and the athletes who are now changing their citizenship. when they change it, they somehow do not grow, it seems to me, to die in their work. no need to change. this people who cannot endure, in general , the sport of the highest achievements is patience. you know, as it's my favorite common expression i always say, the most important thing is to endure. be patient. endure everything you know how to get into a difficult situation. nothing, we'll be patient. how to give everyone in the international arena to know who they actually did not allow no, if you can endure, then you are

the champion anyway, they want to run away now. so what? well, they left, that they rode further, in general, no one knows, they forgot and all. maybe for yourself so a little ride around the world. i don't know, you asked me, i don't have an answer. on this why leave and why leave? i won't go anywhere. so we are back. this is a podcast, a free program, and elena anatolyevna chaikovskaya is our guest. we now have very strong coaching schools there, alexei nikolaevich mishina, tamara nikolaevna moskina. there is a younger generation , too, with absolutely successful super successful ones , there are younger ones, you are calm about our coaching potential. i am not only proud calmly, because i'm the only one laughing that tamara 80

moskvina mishin 81, in my opinion, 83 continue to work with us. well, they should already put in new young people. their places and that they also be interested, because we are still immensely interested in figure skating in its development. is it true. everyone in the coach has an assistant who is a young hot assistant. this annoys me now. here is the story of tim mishin tim some kind of fucking tim. we have always been one coach one choreographer. you now everyone has 50 people standing behind their backs. and that like raikin who came sleeve? remember when the hand is the other way? here is the same thing, who is responsible is responsible for the head coach. uh help him. er, well, you used to have a hariograph. all the same, i needed crapography of the side, it’s worth eating it with my wife.

here is such a wife of a coach is a coach. she's not no tim what are you? well, tamara is also gone. it's you who came up with yourself now, you sew, trousers, sleeveless, i eat, and a hat , but responsibility, somehow. she travels in all directions. no, that's all time, i understand that this is a new time and that's it. we did not allow ourselves. we made costumes. we treated, went to the hospital, sewed shoes together with the athletes. yes, this is what parents do. you see, how would you feel about this, by the way, parents now trust themselves very often so immersed in their own. i understand that they invest a lot of money, but at the same time, it happens that parents already become coaches and bring music to doctors. you don't have to give birth.

indeed, it is possible, well, not at all. well, it's probably easier when you put the responsibility on the parents, i'm going back to the coaching staff, i want to ask. it's so concentrated, isn't everything too concentrated in moscow and st. petersburg, of course, you are always now very large geography, sverdlovsk perm is amazing working with couples, nothing can be said, yes, sverdlovsk single skaters and dancing anything, nizhny novgorod too.

whether there is no task of a coach to be a world coach. whether something does not work out or there is no condition, but somehow they are not born there. i don't know what's the matter. i'm in favor of still having points. in many cities, where there are conditions, you have seen absolutely all the successes from the soviet figure skating and russian figure skating. tell me what are the advantages of our training system and what can be the disadvantages? go for a walk, and we are working, the way we worked in the soviet union, the system

is serious and gives a very good result, because in girls we are generally ahead, in my opinion, the planet is not like there is someone amazing, a complete breakthrough of loss magnificent just a galaxy of children who are trained they are trained in sambo early childhood. that's the meaning of what i took there at the age of 15 and will train her. no, it's all here is the system is its success. she is probably now the most recognizable coach of the new generation of coach, of course i say, all his families are absolutely e. competently, built, and for each athlete, different athletes built a training system. this is very important for her athletes, in general, our russian athlete becomes famous, after all, quite early. now so sport became very young figure skating. and that's

good. this is fame so early in age, or maybe it is. fire, water and copper pipes, it would be better if it came later honestly, then everyone will say, yes, it's like you say, it sucks. no, it's better that it comes at your age, when people understand what they deserve. they lived it, they created it, because these kids are amazingly talented, jumping up and down, but they cannot appreciate the full power of this success and what life has given them. here's a chance understand? this also needs to be appreciated and understood and used further, how to live with it and where to go i can’t help but ask about the most probably loud story of recent years of figure skating, that is, the story of camila or you? oh, well, it's all, that's the story, not

allowed to compete. this is one of the steps. how would we remove a very convenient stage. here is such a notion of some kind of microdoses of something that does not give anything and believe in our very best girls. yes, what is there someone? after the european championship if it was known and so why didn’t you immediately announce in europe would have taken away medals and nothing like that waited for the olympics, very everything was done a hit, and to be honest, no one was expecting this unexpected. and in general, this is hooliganism . and now i have to be very persistent, especially i need to feed myself. i felt a person against whom such a big political game is being played. if

she understands this, she will pass it, and everything will be fine, she is 16 years old. so i say that it is difficult for her. yes, if a person is an adult, he can appreciate it, and then difficult, so support is very important, but to support it is everything in general for me. it's hmm doping story. well, not that unpleasant, she's just outrageous. here, i'll tell you honestly. it shouldn't be like this, they shouldn't hit athletes, especially girls. no, you have to go through patience , we just talked about it, yes, but this is such a global patience, it’s the athletes and coaches that have to go through it. and so do i, by the way. now in the press, confrontations between coaching headquarters between athletes and so on.

what do you think, is it normal now that there is such a press, that it would be better if it did not exist at all, because what they write, first of all, they come up with all the time. there is nothing to say, really, no. secondly, all my life we ​​have had me compete with the beetle all the time, no confrontations. no, on the contrary. this gave tamara moskvina, on the other hand, in pairs, the same thing threw new students onto the mountain. it's normal, thank you. god can not exist one coach, he will perish. he needs to know all the time that someone is nearby or with the border, there with a friend, of course, of course, competition and that's it. this is interesting, you have not yet been asked about some such dubious ones, for sure. well, you see, that’s why something now at first constantly got into some now, i either just don’t answer, or i find

some kind of answers that they don’t print, because the water is absolutely correct. yes, i do the same. i don't give any interviews. go forward, don't pay attention to what's behind they say that in your opinion, there is not enough world figure skating or russian figure skating. where to direct the look forward what is not enough to pay attention to? borders of statehood parents or even sometimes at their own

expense. you see a good athlete, but you can’t jump out on this. it should be like this for us, an amazing training system, amazing , i wish them all, by the way, china at one time we sent our pair skating coaches there. they grew up. they completely took over our system. don't send more coaches here. these are my eyes, they are not the same at the time. i'm sorry, i've always coached the italian national team. uh-huh, three types, and pairs of dances. poland is my all poles, there are dances. it's all mine. i coached the canadian team. by the way, those who are now montreal schools. they skated a lot, there was an exchange, but i was always exchanged for coaches, because suddenly

they call me in the summer, and we have only one month. fly away, so there were such exchange offices that were very good. by the way, i still have all these connections and relationships from those times. and now it's all stopped talking with coaches abroad. they call me, and all relations remain the same, but this exchange of knowledge , ideas, and some training processes is no longer there, yes, but they finished joining us. i remind you that we are visiting. a great figure skating man or anatolian, sometimes you train

a man for tchaikovsky, somewhere already high up in the national team at night you think, my god. well, what is it, what is it? why is it not going and all the insight will no longer be able to. everything has already been worked out. all and this is for friction. here is for me. exactly this heavy a bitter discovery that i made, because you are looking for you are looking for you try everything, and then you are late. from the very top, well, this is coaching , coaching in general. why don't they go yet and at night you lie thinking? you do not live your own life, here you pull it and that's it. but nevertheless, come all in training. well , it's very good that we are talking about this

topic, but i'm still such a sore subject that very few of you people have come to coaching. my task is to attract you. i understand that ballet on ice is everything other, so to speak, financial matters. well , it would be great if you caught fire. with this development, here is what you will see, what you have picked up. that's like a child at home. you grew it, maybe you will tell me which one of the athletes you would like to see as a coach, please, i wanted to see you like a school right by a school. i don't understand why it doesn't work. your partner, my wife hurts, right? nice. i would like to see from what

now if there are hotbeds, why don't tarasova go with frost there, finishing there through how many years? they could they could, you know. i think that vova would definitely be able to, of course, well. i can't figure out where igudin is. why is he between heaven and earth already like exactly here is an artist, that's the point. i am happy that zhenya came, happy because there was a period when no one came at all. we had a complete failure in 2006, here we are. ice show earnings are different, please, this is a very big deal for athletes, but anyway, it will someday run out of time, i don’t know.

this is also very heavy. you must find yourself how will you teach? well, now you come on, take a couple, then we'll see. as a head coach, i demand to receive. yes please, because i'm very interested i'm very interested in you. you are young, you are full of energy, you are full of energy, you are full of ideas. let's all start. see, you asked what the head coach does with this. great. now i know, i ran to execute. thank you very much, to be honest, most of it. i was very worried, to be honest, before this interview, because i didn’t know how to go to talk at all with you, but it turned out very cool. thank you,

you are very kind. i have emphasized a lot of you worth a lot. thank you don't be afraid, i've found a job, i'll support it for sure. thank you i am very glad thank you success. this podcast is a must read. today we will talk about the dark alleys of bunin as the pinnacle of an erotic rose. i am aglaya na batnikova, director , writer, podcast host, uh, my guest today is marina stern, a neurologist, uh, head of the neurorehabilitation department, candidate of medical sciences, uh, sergey izotov, poet, journalist specialist in the white guard movement.

you can imagine that. and why i chose the dark alley, because it seems to me that bunin e, has reached the pinnacle of his skill in this collection of stories. i am also interested in what these stories were written during the second world war in exile and, uh, it was a kind of collapsing world, that is, we already understand that bunin was an emigrant from the russian empire. and he didn't agree. with the revolution, he refused to return to russia , but, nevertheless, the basis of his work was the memories of this noble life russian and e, i wonder why bunin turned, let's say, to the topic of erotica, because she was quite innovative for e high literature and why he did it so successfully, and marina dark alleys

actually reveal before us this world e of a household aristocratic environment . e, where e was love for e people of noble birth besaksa. well, let's just say, yes, bunin in the dark alleys. uh, a lot of it is about real-life erotic flat relationships that aristocrats developed mainly, and with peasant women with slaves with some orphans who lived. in the house in this there is, it seems to me, some. well, such a duality that breaks the psyche, that relatively speaking, love is one thing for you, and sex is completely different for you, and it ’s like a gap between love and erotica, as it seems to you, if there is some value gap in this and does it prevent a person from being happy. and i think that this is primarily due to the attitudes that society dictated at that time, and the aristocratic

environment in russia is an orthodox environment. orthodox values. they still always well denied- if not denied, then let's say so concealed, but all these carnal pleasures they were perceived as a sin. ah, respectively, this is from childhood. first, the little aristocrats had great examples in the form of their parents. yes, that is, these are values ​​that have been formed over several centuries, yet in this way, by the twentieth century, a fairly clear one was formed. well, let's say a binary value system. yes, you have. uh, what society dictates. you must match to comply with the rules, and which are , well, such scripts by and large, and yet, yes, the scripts by which he lives and is obliged to implement, he is obliged to receive there by inheritance and, accordingly, uh, continue the family necessarily. well, the needs of no one

canceled the needs of young men in the process, let's say. so maturation is in the process of ah growing up they are in some way. i think they weren't satisfied with poetry, so of course that's all. exit, that is, if you have a need to implement, you implement it, in the way that is available to you. in this case, these are the very accessible women, accessible from the social system. yes. uh, still, the fates of these girls were destroyed, that is , we know that they, uh, then could not lead a normal life. after seducing them. uh, yes, some kind of mess, for example, and this resulted in some unpleasant stories and even in the main story of the dark alley cycle, dark alley. he is just such a meeting, when barin meets an eyed once by him, and a woman later. uh, many years. yes, it’s even there and she is already

of natural age, but he remembers her beauty and then she enters into a conversation with him and says that her heart was broken. she was very unhappy that he broke her in life, that she still loves him. and in general, it pops up in his memory, right? this is an adventure and he is at the end, when he is walking in a carriage. hmm, remembering, he understands that it was still a misalliance, and she would never have been able to become a mother, his children and other exits were not unpleasant for him. yes when you meet a once seduced woman. she tells you you ruined my whole life. and i agree that, but here is also the moment that the peasant society was even more religious of course, such girls. they were stigmatized by and large, and they weren't free any more. uh, hmm they were trapped in a big way because , well, what a dream girl. yes, that's the one, if we are talking about scenarios. yes, the

same scenario of cinderella well, he is eternal by and large, they all dreamed of you getting married. you as you know, they all imagined that love conquered love conquered. well, unfortunately, no, it is not. for them, by and large, it is a psychological trauma, and if we look from the point of view of medicine, yes things attack, then this is post-traumatic stress syndrome. the sad fate of peasant women before the vein of serfdom, yes or how, and this is not only before the abolition of serfdom, it is after because if we consider the period that bunin describes, this is the very beginning of the 20th century. at that point in time, probably twenties anyway. it seems to me that psychology has remained, that is, uh, slavery has been abolished, but the psychology has remained all the same in this social hierarchy, that is, you have abolished slavery, and relations have been preserved, honestly

to people. uh-huh seryozha tell me please, in principle, among the people who emigrated about these white officers about this environment , the representative who was bunin and some of her features. because it is clear that this is both orthodoxy and a monarchy. yes, some features of the psychological social. tell us more about it, please. a well, to unite it, perhaps, is possible only by the fact that they were forced to run, this is the first and second. this is a general understanding rather than such nostalgia. it was expressed in completely different ways among different representatives of this society, but because they were driven there to certain cities. the same, that is, there is paris but there is no money, what is the same at the same time there were young conditional migrants. immediately boris poplavsky, who earned money there as a cab driver, wrote at night, deciding whether he or the samyns, who later returned wanted to overthrow. ah, the communist system. eh, but also was considered a close friend of gippius to

budding writers. they lived in the past, roughly speaking, they tried through this past. yes , through this past bring hope for the future, and they lived very introverted and believed their ideas. well, is this a pole or can it somehow be saved and continued. the tradition that they took with them atlantis drowned forever, because there was no more this aristocracy, there was no this social order, there was nothing from their past. yes, at the same time, uh, again, if we take bunin conditionally, then this is a representative such a hardened immigration, that is, he is not exactly the same. well, roughly speaking, such a post, turgenev's vibe. you know, when you're about to eat and so on, you're already leaving with a name. you don't leave like so many others. you don’t leave as an author, when he migrated he was a famous author, he was a famous poet, by the way, yes, he received his first fame and all the pushkin prizes, as for this the translator flirted with the symbolists and perhaps it was his perception of poetry that shaped his prose, but, because especially dark alleys

by density concentration. yes, here, for example, take a beauty. that is, as it were, well, there really is not. yes, there really is no plot, there is what the poet does, roughly speaking, he dissolves some kind of reality and collects it. from the symbols, here is a very dense, very compressed something, and as you read it, you already understand that another fable is behind this. what, uh, how can you characterize this white guard? deiskaya they wanted to carry the real russia as they imagined it. here, but they wanted the past, or try to fit in here in these small circles with the hope that they will return there, or somehow modernize it. and that's from all this from this attempt at games with the past. they all repelled, and here there were several exits, and there was a very mesotherapeutic exit to score everything there and try, as it were, to call for the destruction of the universe, as ivanov did in some verses, that is, such cynicism is isotropism. and there was a way out to try to come to terms with this and return here, too, to national

bolshevism, which was then born. it is also a reaction to this loss of soil. yes, here you were someone, and that's all and you're trying. yes, there the shooters are trying to offend the change of the vevekians are trying to unite. here are some historical uh, native to the logic of the development of imperial russia and the soviet one and see this as one big project. and many tried to return and returned to the same, for example, vertinsky, as far as i know. bunin was offered to return, but he turned out to be the most curious, and this is curious, and in the spirit of his work of these dark alleys, because bunin is a man of such timelessness, which is lost in him in well, yes, that is , in what, in principle, they present him mainly that you have not created any image that you could cling to. you don't have your own schismatic. you do not have. e tolstoy characters. yes, dying looks at the sky australians. do you agree that he managed to create the image of russia, the image of the motherland. that is, maybe