interesting analysis, but i would still like to ask you to be a little more specific if possible. here, taking into account national interests. e of the two countries, considering the common threat from the united states, considering, but if you want some kind of independent, but in one direction of movement towards the creation of their national values, which are closer to e for moscow and beijing than for, e, whoever you are from them by the united states, but still, here's what, in your opinion, could be real in terms of e russian chinese cooperation, and china is still open, at least does not supply russia with lethal weapons and, uh, the united states does not say they do not make such accusations, and

the united states, uh, openly threatens china that if china does more for russia, they can be the most serious consequences. and here is mrs. greenson. let's hear what she just said about this, and the americans went to mrs. greenwood if china and others have thoughts or make any efforts to to supply the russians with lethal weapons for their brutal attack on ukraine, that would be unacceptable and would mean a red line to hear. great. what her boss says, damn it. wishing us the concern we are currently experiencing is based on

the information we have that they are considering providing lethal support. we have made it clear that these will be serious problems for us and our relations with the prc , see how to solve yes , we warned, we warned. uh, jennette yelen america's treasury secretary said if the chinese do not join the sanctions against russia, they will receive the same sanctions that will not be able to do anything, even if the chinese supply lethal weapons of lethal weapons. we have enough. eh, the chinese are giving us real help. ah, the very fact of its existence. here are the two fronts. just imagine, apart from their existence and funding. and what would happen if there were no this eastern front, and all the might of america and nato would now go to the ukrainian front. i take it of course, you are right, of course, but

beyond your existence and how this existence helps russia, you see the opportunity for china to go further in cooperation with russia at the risk of us sanctions. i think that china is an independent power and it is ready to challenge america, an already open challenge and the fact that an article about american hegemonism was published today, and in the regime i lived, i duplicated the statement of the ministry of foreign affairs that america is a hegemot and we do not intend to, but to obey the dictates the same statement was about just the military help that china is under no pressure, but is not going to submit to another matter. do we need to substitute the chinese? here are some uh sanctions, additional strikes and so on,

but china is not afraid. china talks to themselves from america on an equal footing at worst. or maybe it's starting to get a little overbearing. thank you konstantin is not ready to agree or refute this point of view, i want to say that i would not want russia to find itself in a situation where it will be forced to ask for military assistance for chinese elite weapons people's republic now e a few of these e, short ones. doubts or remarks that i had during this time and having heard everything said, firstly, i am not sure of the possibility of one civilization to win over another, especially if these civilizations are represented by nuclear powers, in what i believe, i use chinese terminology. this is also the interpenetration of civilization into the struggle from the dialect. they really spoke about superpowers, but if we substitute the words of civilization instead, do i believe that this will happen in the world? i believe that with

america to agree on ukraine is much easier, although it is very difficult today. it is hardly possible, but in principle, it is possible, in contrast to reaching an agreement with those who do not have their own identity, that is, zelensky companies. they're just really not negotiable. and i can imagine a certain combination of circumstances, therefore about something we agreed with america on ukraine to say, what we do not want to be, we can say, what we want a serious discussion here. we just don't actually, if we talk about the proposal to ukraine to formulate this ideological component as a general and unconditional one. for example, i believe that the first challenge arises in connection with the fact that territories are being reclaimed, there are plants, factories, mines, and so on, which have long had their owners in ukraine. we will verify their ownership. or we will make sure that they do not pass into the hands of our russian masters, or

, in fact, what would be necessary would be the land for the peasants, the factories for the workers, but this is not corresponds here in the russian federation internally to what we have built here, but in order for them to come over to our side, these christian workers. them. it is necessary to promise this in ukraine. here there is a problem that needs to be solved. well, since you are quoting the relatives of our presenters, uh, i will quote one who was related to me, and his name was isaac kaminsky and he was the head of the bank for the construction industry of russia in the thirty-seventh year. he spoke, uh, about what yes, of course, the danger of war is growing, but there must be an understanding that the soviet union still needs a few more years for soviet industry to make it possible to solve such

colossal tasks in the most figurative way. this was formulated as a standard by the fuhrer stirlitz in the general film. who uh now shows on tv know that it was yulian semyonov actually know that it was tikhonov but never mind. so here's his favorite expression was patience, patience and patience. i think that's from our dialogue. uh, today it is clear that some tasks must to be fulfilled from most likely to be fulfilled can be fulfilled quite in the foreseeable future, and some tasks. in general, they will require some. and well, more serious temporary indicators and some , probably, changes in russia itself and the last word on this matter to you alexander what changes in russia do you consider necessary

so that russia can resist the collective west? first of all, i think that with all a, in the diversity of views regarding our russian idea, there is something that unites everyone - victory, faith in our history our independence our sovereignty our freedom our solidarity and right and left in this respect converge only liberals fall out, because in general they treat our people like uh, approximately, like ukrainians or there is a biden or the west if the liberals go over to the side of the russians please, for god's sake, i know such examples, but this is also normal. here is the formulation of this idea, of course, you can’t rush into it right away. i also agree with konstantin zatulin, but we must start now so that the time will come when we'll say, well, now we've done it . it's time to start. now we do not pay attention to it. uh,

enough attention, in my opinion. we are faced with a problem that is not technical, not military technical, not managerial, not a question, but the quality and quantity of ammunition or weapons, we are faced with a fundamental spiritual problem, if you like , a certain civilization is advancing on us, which does not leave us the right to sovereign existence. they will agree to accept russia if we are like them, that is, they completely subordinated them to them as subordinates, we will not agree to this we can in this regard. we will not and should not negotiate with them , but in order to give a real answer to our generations and our society and ukrainians and the west and the chinese and all others and indians and arabs and african latin americans to all other civilizations. we must articulate it clearly. and i think that, for example, the fact that we are obliged to share, uh, factories in the liberated territories between the old

oligarchs and our oligarchs. he is unfair. this is the wrong society. this is the wrong approach. i agree with zatulin question. the question of justice is the question of justice the question of the people the question of collective property in some cases, when it comes to really, especially tangible forms, of course, we must change that russia that started a special military operation a year ago in the state in which it was defeated in it is not capable of, in order to achieve victory , we must change profoundly. we must be cleansed. we have to think and maybe start this difficult and not easy dialogue, including the whole society in who we are, what for the society we build, where we go. this is not clear to us. it's an idea, it's what it is. in a sense, not a narrow ideology, but a broad general folk idea. you know, when it seems to me in uh, the collective west and

especially who they are in london in brussels, they began to experience veal delight about how the biden managed to unite the collective west against russia. they had certain reasons for satisfaction, because that degree of unity against russia which we see today e i did not expect and i think that biden himself did not assume. this is truly biden's success. i don't think it's a success because of his incredible diplomatic talents, but because there really is an understanding there that the stakes are extremely high. and this is not ukraine, this is the world order, about what? it seems to me that they did not think, this is another country of the medal about how, by uniting themselves against russia, they united russia against themselves and in russia there was an understanding that was not there before,

that the west is an enemy, not a difficult partner and not a rival of the competition, namely real an enemy and even an enemy and an enemy with nuclear weapons and an enemy potentially having such an ally as china and many others in the world , as this titanic struggle will want, nobody really knows and i don’t think that it will turn out on the battlefields of ukraine already in the next month, but i know that the world is likely to be very different and russia has serious concerns and even fears today. well, i still see new opportunities for russia, in which none of us could have foreseen a year ago. it was big game see you on the air tomorrow and thanks to all participants. this is a very interesting conversation . the message of the president of the russian federation

vladimir putin to the federal assembly will be broadcast live tomorrow at 12:00 moscow time. good day, dear dear viewers of channel one. i dmitry bak invite you to a literary podcast. let them not speak, let them read now few, who remember where this phrase came from. let them say it was such a great spanish film with rafael where they sang songs and there was such a great song dign lab chatting us it's not

concerns. this does not work for our love. our podcast is even tougher. he generally forbids speaking, he encourages reading. we are doing this with you. of course, we rarely read anything on the air, but today we will have and this, because today we have absolutely unique guests, the famous translator from italian poet evgeny mikhailovich solonovich. hello. yevgeny mikhailovich, we will be on you, uh, we will be hooligans, because it’s impossible otherwise. i even heard the expression, that solonovich is our main italian poetry. are you like this do you relate? this, unfortunately, is how i taught. conducted a seminar for translators at the lithuanian institute. they didn’t come out with this, only prose writers, in general this school of italian poetry, translations of italian poetry, very powerful after all in the soviet union and in russia maybe we will start with this and how it happened that a boy who very long ago

in 933 year, let's not hide it, was born in simferopol in the sunny crimea and suddenly turned out to be the main one in italian poetry, how did it all happen? zhenya tell us, please, so i graduated from high school in evpatoria because i was born only in simferopol. dad was a military doctor. so i had a year or a year and a half, and the military doctor didn’t know me either. he was transferred to a poturium and a school. i graduated from evpatoria and, uh, i decided to learn spanish so, spanish, why exactly spanish, because i lived in a remote province by the sea, why did it happen? now i'll tell you why, because there was a republican spanish orphanage, when it means the children came, and in spain, the civil war, of course, went to school. they mean, they lived separately with me, so the girl was spanish, and i decided to go to learn

spanish perfectly, and it was right to moscow and right to moscow right to moscow when i arrived in moscow and came, so i’m in ilyas i saw that there is an italian language. i changed my girlfriend and went to italian why italian because after the war, when it means, uh , there was only one radio broadcast for the whole union and that means they couldn’t talk from morning to evening only about achievements in agriculture and industry, therefore punctuated this classical music. here are the arizoper neapolitan songs, well, fine. that's how i fell in love with the language. and so, when i found out that there is an italian translation faculty. i said no, i want to go to the boris torez italian institute, which is now already, which means a university. yes, yes, but it is located.

in the same place in the house where, by the way, ivan goncharov studied. come on, the commercial school is opposite the house of ivan turgenev. this is a very literary place in moscow, so i never regretted that i never chose italian. i believed the choice was made right. here i am related to this language. i began, therefore, to translate more while studying at the institute. well, then already, it means that the car started working, well, official information. it is said that the debut as a compiler of the book took place in 1959. that is, before i was born. it was some kind of collection of these italian dolmatia. dolmatia - by the way. the first book was - it was an author's book, joe zoya korduchya. i was one of the carriers there. here, and the dalmatians were already like a legacy, and this cordon translated and

e ilya nikolaevich golenishchev kutuzov this is an absolute classic, it is necessary to mention him. yes, it's free. this is actually a person who was in exile in dolmatia. so i learned serb croatian there and compiled just such a book, and because, therefore, dalmatians. there were times, there were poems in italian . here is a place where the slavs, italians , croatia, like trieste, yes, the northeast and so on. and uh. so he invited me, uh, to participate in this book, which he compiled and, uh, in the future, means cooperation. ours went on because when, for the anniversary of dante, he was preparing a complete collection in russian of the date, here, a, as a matter of fact, they were translated, basically

the divine comedy was translated into azin. but dante's poems were not translated and he offered me to translate the elements with him. well, not only poems, but also a kind of translation of both poems with me did the translation. here he is, and uh, i translated, it means poetry and uh, so, it means i already learn from him then as an editor, it means that one of the books was sergei vasilievich shirvinsky wonderful akhmatova's friend is a translator from many languages. i remember what it means when i translated something for the first time. this means that he already began to invite me when he was the title editor, which means that he also invited me to translate some book, and i remember the first time i came to him with translations, and he, therefore, made a number of remarks to me there. actually, he taught me to read

the text. that's because i'm already sergey vasilievich chervinsky and when i already came to him, after i took these comments into account. he told me evgeny mikhailovich he told me then he still called evgeny mikhailovich, then i became zhenya for him. he says, and i thought you would not come back to me, because the remarks were so serious. that is, this, apparently, is your property, yes, to treat everything calmly with light humor, but, to be honest, i did not see your fate in such details. yes, because sergei vasilyevich has something else to do, then i mean, he had his first time. there you go, she left him. he gave me a coat. i tried to snatch it from his hands. he says evgeny mikhailovich to me valery yakovlevich is closer than bryusov, when he was a student , he applied for a student. yes, i heard, even the endless anecdote that supposedly the salogub told tarkovsky that in the struggle of a man with

a coat. i always in the country of man - this is such a story, understandable to students, too , men gave coats not only to girls. this red man was ripped out of his hands and i say valeria is like bryusov for me. uh, golenishchev kutuzov is the author of such a volume of romance literature, which i still have, but sergey vasilyevich shervinsky, of course, is an absolutely legendary person, but hmm, it is very important that you said that even dante, apart from the legendary translation of mikhail lazinsky, which remains unsurpassed, although there is a translation of ilyushin now in labica. yes, there is a whole discussion, a whole discussion about how this great work is translated, of course, the translation of latin will not happen until now, but it is important that even dante is the absolute value of shakespeare dante eh yes. goethe is probably the most important sergeintys of the world. yes

, then you petrarch is also my author, but most importantly, that even dante was not translated. here in my hands, uh, a book from the early nineties, if i'm not mistaken, italian poetry in russian translations and very important. all names to you dear viewers. knowing this is in vain, because you have to read. look, we see, uh, here uh, here i have a book yes, and italian poetry in translations by evgeny solonov is the twentieth year and a reprint, 22 years old, it was clear, clear. well, maybe we are in the classics and we will begin. i just wanted to name a hmm alexandra manzoni victoria alfirii, fruit growers, 100. that's it, these are world

classics like sanadzaru. in general, there are many, many desserts here, and it is very pleasant that, of course, evgeny solonovich is among the translators. maybe we 'll start with the classics, let's start with petrarch i'm almost two orderly jehovah let's read well, then, uh , it was customary for us at one time, then to share his book. yes, poems on the life of madonna laura and the death of madonna laura, but this title was not copyright. he just had the first part and the second part, that means from the first part. i will first read the sanner, and i am silent to your beauty in verse and feeling deep embarrassment. i want to correct this omission of their first meeting with my memory, but i see time is not up to me here , all my skill will not help and knows that

inspiration is powerless. and i was in vain hot , i was filled with courage more than once, but no sounds escaped from my chest, who am i to soar into such, more than once into a feather. i brought it to the paper, but both my hand and my mind gave up on the first word and again gave it up and from the first part and from the second part my days rushed by faster than lana and if happiness smiled, it instantly turned into smoke for them. oh sweet pain of memories. o beautiful world, if only i knew in advance that she is blind, who believes in blind aspirations, she lies under e, the vault of the grave, and between her and the past the line has been erased, but eternal beauty to heaven and this unearthly cross, as before, my life is full. and

the quivering smoke of a single, e-mine, what does it crown? where is she? what a performance tomorrow before me is beautiful in translation, and evgenia salavanovich absolutely classical texts and not only in italian, but also in russian as a more modern text, we will move on in our second part. and now our usual heading surprise. undermined from within, the monarchs ceased to exist on march 2 , 1917. the empire was a national project the ussr was conceived as a global project. not a single language, including the new lands.

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poetry and classical poetry, too, will continue in the second part of our program. and now our usual rubric, which, by contrast , today will be devoted not to italian literature, but to russian and not to poetry, but to prose this is a rubric. as you, of course, remember, this is a quote from the classics, and we, so that you think we will read a quote from the hunter's notes, but who does not remember the hunter's notes, who did not read them at school, who did not read them at the university, if he is a philologist, but however, we will try to this tiny quote. from the essay of yermolai and the miller's woman, to obey in order to understand what exactly are the features of the image of turgenev's man, why he occupies such a position in the world, that he manages to consider something completely special in a person. well we remember that uh, yermolai is a peasant hunter. actually

, barin appears to the hunters, and he goes hunting with yermolai with a dog, and one evening, uh, barin and yermolai stop for the night. at melnik's, melnik does not let them into the hut, but is afraid that they will burn them and leaves them to spend the night. uh, on the street under a light canopy. and now barin seemed to doze off and hear the conversation. e her m-m, the hunter yermolai and the miller arina, the miller, again sat down on the rink. and what about arina's timofernaya part are you still sick? what's so coughing at night torments the master, it seems he fell asleep about mine. yermolai, after a short silence. you don't go to the doctor. arina will be worse, and even then i don’t go, but come to visit me. arina lowered her head. i'll drive my wife away just in case, go on. yermolai is right sir. you

'd better wake barin up. well, i'll omit a little, uh, the text of the text and continue the quote after a brief comment. well, that is , the guy does not understand that there was a joke between them and nothing happened. or maybe a difficult romance. she is on melnik and has been visiting m-m more than once. yermolai, or maybe everything is easy for them to once again beckon her to her, that is, it is absolutely incomprehensible what is happening between these simple people and the main thing is that barin here occupies such a material point in space. he is not an author who knows everything the characters think. well, as if a representative of the outside world, but look what's next, uh , and you, too, from belyov, he asks narina, and the awakened master no, i was the master's master, whose animal master of what animal alexander the strong man? weren't you his maid's wife. and why do you know, amazing story, it turns out that our

master hunter knew the owner of arina in st. petersburg and knew that she was exiled to the miller in the village for love, serfs were not supposed to love without will. barina researches her marriage to the miller is unhappy. therefore, he sees more than ermolaev here. what's the matter. this is a strange combination of two tricks. on the one side. before us is a witness the same as a leaf of a tree, a dog or yermolai, and on the other hand , we have before us all the strong author ivan sergeevich turgenev literally, in a very short space of the text, to do with us something that cannot be forgotten later, it will later be in his novels and in the noble nest. and, of course, in fathers and children, but the most important thing is discovery. turgenev, of course, makes notes of a hunter in his essays, which

began to be published in 1847 and immediately won him a literary name and made him famous. and a few years before that, when turgenev was introduced to polina viardot and they said that they were good hunters, bad poet. eh, it happened precisely because the hunter's notes had not yet been conceived , written and published, too, were not in the journal of contemporaries. well, now we are from uh, central russia, we will return to the sultry shores founded. and italy, e, to the most beautiful italian poetry and, of course, let's continue the conversation with the most beautiful translator of her italian poetry, yevgeny mikhalych, let's not exaggerate well. i understand a little bit of italian, but he, uh

, he's opa and a capiska of italian, yes, but not too much. unfortunately, that's why i can treat originals with your translations. e with a dictionary and sometimes without a dictionary and be surprised at how much you still manage to convey. there is no unique melody in the italian language, because there are no sounds that are subject to special training for pronunciation like english yes, for example, like german u, yes or, as for italians, russian s yes russian, which they call those who learn russian , they call 61 perfectly. that is. well, here, our dear viewers. you did not know that the letter is called 61, because, of course, yes for italians. it's impossible to pronounce absolutely not pronounced instead, of course. and maybe now we will hear

something in both italian and russian, maybe even jumping a little further a little further, well, first in russian, so i will explain in a nutshell. in other people's words so, in april, thirty-eight, 1838 , gogol wrote from rome to maria balabina, you surely did not happen to read the sonnets of the current roman poet belli, which you need to hear how he himself reads further. so, he praises belli and goes on to continue, and

on june 23, 1830, the thirty-ninth year, immediately after return from italy french poet and critic. augustenff wrote that there is a poet's time, and i, unfortunately, did not meet him. moreover, a true poet, as knowledgeable people told me, and after some time. in the preface to gogol's short stories in french, in the preface, he reveals who these knowledgeable people are, mr. gogol told me this is a wonderful story. we will remind our viewers that gogol, according to his own formulation, needed unheated heat. he was from the south of russia, he

was a little russian, so he didn’t get warm. this is what he found, of course, not in moscow, much less in st. petersburg but in italy, yes, and he spent many years in italy, he is depicted in the most famous, probably, painting by alexander ivanov, the appearance of the messiah in the form of such a figure, half-turned to the mission . gogol, an italian man, and he opened up to all of europe for italian poetry. this e is a remarkably wonderful poet, but strange, because he read e not in the interior of the poems written in dialect. so, gogol, when discussing the question did he know italian or did not know, he knew it so well that she understood, even in the dialect, in fact, not the italian language again let's say to our viewers, because i lecture it in italy in each region its own dialect. sometimes italians don't understand each other understand each other. quite right, if they are light and the venetians cannot be treated.

and life from the fact that at home they hear only a dialect, not a literary language, italian , they told me that if you try to ask for some kind of fish not in venetian in the market in venice, then they will sell you something. the best. yeah, well, uh, this is an amazing phenomenon. yes, on the one hand, dante peter's arch of the orio fruit tree, 100 and other luminaries, and on the other hand, this is an oral hooligan, yes, this is such a poet, who is precisely a hooligan. here, i will now read to you a couple of his tips, but restrained hooliganism. if possible, then you know, yes, education, yeah. here. uh, by the way , uh, this third edition was already amended . so, uh, i am now preparing the fourth one too, which means i am choosing how to supplement it, uh, this

fourth edition. so the poem is a sonnet is called raising you son. it would not be bad to remember, the father's science is such that once you are hit by a knock, not two, it is not for nothing that a pood will start you in every fist. bore morality to read you spit on all the words. everyone has their own head, and then send him out of here a glass, earned. three friends do not give a drop. look, at the very pier it has dried up in the throat. and most importantly , remember all the time, son, that you, as your father is a christian, keep in your pocket a sharp knife and a clear one, but this reminds you, bad advice from gregory of the island. yes, don't put the jam, it will be difficult to understand this is such a parody. uh, conditional advice that is directed here's another yes, so monks, yes, you have teresa