or when, for example , mr. verkhein was touring very actively with his own method of training in youth football, that is, he captured, so to speak, the academician does not give a damn about his methodology. there are academies. anji at the bait. rome developed very actively, he traveled with lectures throughout the country, and in holland, for example, nobody knows who the tops are. well, that is, when every school develops in its own way there too, that is, the ajax school has its own philosophy of the phenoad, its own philosophy of vitas, its own philosophy. here, and us here they suggested that a legislator has arrived, the mod that develops in holland is also happening in any other type of activity, that is, slutsky does not train, since karpin karpin does not train, since semak semak is no cherchesov, and so on and so on, therefore, we can talk about educational programs about what, for example, what courses and what you need to take in order to get a tennis license about but

in no case do we have the right to speak of nationality as belonging to some system a piece of individual and to a greater extent a creative profession basic knowledge, everyone should have. well, after any kind of training it doesn't matter. you left the school. you must have basic knowledge. they left the institute. you must have basic knowledge. you also came out of some training courses there, you should have basic knowledge. yes, but when we are already talking about the sport of the highest achievements of coaches who work with elite-level athletes, it is clear that any of them has this basic knowledge and the question is not how he exploits basic knowledge. yes, and how it develops already, well, much beyond what these basic knowledge is. he received. if so the whole story is individual. you have an answer to the question. why have our trainers never been in demand abroad? well , the same can be said about the players. well, because football. you are more yes, that

is, for example, there, in a team of 25 players , they can take a russian player, twenty- sixth. yes, but they won't take the coach. uh-huh second third. if there is, as it were, then there is here percentage. well, maybe one in twenty. if we take this ratio, then she will be just the same and this is a historical thing. uh, because, for example, when after cska i got a job in england, i had a huge number of interviews with english premier league clubs. and why there were a lot of them, because at the interview you make a very pleasant impression. they look at your cv well, that is, they look that you had many, many achievements there, but it is always worth it, damn it, never russian does not work. damn, how can he document a block. yes, that is, as if and sort of, as i wanted and at the same time not, and i think that the fact that, again, many fans are accused of as bad experience, and in khaliya vityaz i consider it a fantastic experience, because well , i don't know any russians. with a specialist

who worked in england and who worked in holland is not the last country in football. and as if the very fact that you get a job there, you are there, you get a huge understanding experience. how are many processes, that is in itself. well, it's just a fantastic time. if we are talking about our football, it is to develop more widely. that is , i have not seen that sports football managers work somewhere. i didn't see a lot of players leaving. i haven't seen a lot of your colleagues who went to work for sky have pn or where the language culture is of fundamental importance, of course, but nonetheless. well, for the coaches, do you think that the language culture does not matter much, given that every day you communicate with people, there are no carriers and there is not even a chance to even think in this direction, therefore, well, that's it, it's complex, that's how we must admit that our sports football industries are in particular. well, not so popular.

uh, in some leading e football countries, and we have a lot to strive for - how to become hockey , i must say that there are not very many coaches, who you worked abroad with us, but in the nhl, in general, anyone is the head coach, ever sometimes he worked, they were assistants, the main thing - no, but here you are. although, what are we, probably fundamentally different positions than in football. and how much more difficult it has become for you to adapt to the locker room, because i understand conditionally the rhetoric of the coach 15 years ago. and now it is radically different from before. it was impossible to think about what is happening now. well mine hasn't changed. uh, despite that yes, i 'll tell you, for example, there are some things that affect. uh. i have very often before a theoretical lesson on such a huge screen. i'm writing some kind of humorous question, i'm doing some kind of survey. that is, there, for example, i don’t know there, who has the lowest iq in the team, i give an option and answers, or there, who puts on the worst. so i had information that one of

the players made a screen from this screen. and then, respectively, this player tried to understand, did not play. yes, he left the team there, and then he tried to show through certain telegram channels there that this is how the coach disrespectfully communicated with the players. look in general what he discussed, how terrible, but also really for an unprepared person talk about what, well, imagine. yes , there you come somewhere no one knows you, and you have lists for the lowest iq there and someone else votes for you and does not vote. what a horror, but this is actually a process. and when you're deeply involved, when you're in a great relationship? when everyone understands that this is a joke, that this is normal, that now there will be a heavy long theory, hourly, where we will talk about serious things. that is, you set such an easy initial one so that at least not everyone will come gloomy. and we are already tired of theory. here but this is really one photo can have a completely different context. and well, on the one hand, you are forced to think about it and talk about it on the other hand.

and on the other hand, you will no longer be you, and, for example, how many times they told me, because i love you very much, but i think that in general you can joke about everything, that there are no boundaries in humor at all, but what if your interlocutor or who are you kidding about accepts these things because there were football players that i saw that are very hard on this. i like them right away left them aside and did not touch them at all and, accordingly, used these humorous exorcisms of his on other people. here and for example, i joked a lot about racism, yes, with black players and it caused them, but unbelievable. surge of strength smile. ah, the feeling of self-importance. that is , you do it not for the purpose of insulting, yes, or belittling human dignity, but rather highlighting these people and showing their features in the best sense of the word. and they often tell me that it is not necessary for someone to fall asleep, where, then there will be a grand scandal. and you kind of think about it, but on the other

side. do you understand what it is? is also one of the tools that you use in your work and completely refuse it, but it just looks impossible, but you had moments when you lost in the locker room, when you yourself were lost in this locker room, football is such a difficult and different thing that you you can uh, being sure that the locker room belongs to you. can you lose her in a second? well, depending from the dialogue that takes place inside from that reaction of an individual player that is not predictable, which, as i remember, i spoke in zapashny and asked and said, tell me when you turn around behind your back to predators, how to control them. they can throw. they say, well, they must feel such that even with your back you continue to control the same thing in the locker room. that is, you should not sit concentration for a moment. you must feel that even when well, it's just that everyone is ready for you. die.

anyway, you can lose the locker room, so i track these moments very clearly, but the fact that anything can be and at any second everything that is, as again, the zapashnys would not control predators with their backs. all the same, the threat of attack remains essentially every second. well, of course it was, but i have such a wealth of experience. i already have such a huge number of matches at the highest level that it is probably difficult to describe what was not. but every time i say that everything has already happened, something always happens. something you haven't had yet. it's just that your already coaching experience allows you to respond to this more quickly. this is the stronger slutsky, the one who came to cska and immediately began to win everything in the world. or the one who is now in this chair, who has lived, of course, all his life, of course, now and is much stronger. the most important thing is that it is. i, for one, i feel that with every new year, every new team with every new person i met, that is, i kept getting stronger, stronger, stronger and stronger and therefore, well, for now.

let it be uncorrelated. for someone with some direct results. yes , for me it just correlates, and the example of a conditional hvichek in rotkhel is probably the most striking in this chain. i understand correctly that you have already come to terms with those kazan fans who will come to any comment everywhere and say, well, you drowned. yes, that's all, of course. once again i say, i have long reconciled. and i can say one thing, that you always have three stages. you read the comments first and only you read positive ones, the second one, when you are insanely upset by negative comments, you start such a non-verbal argument with the person who wrote nonsense about you, and the third one, when you read everything, that is. i am now. well, just, well, i have a lot of humor and the most irony in reacting to all these things. well, well, you can’t argue with everyone and you won’t prove anything to everyone. and? the same applies to absolutely all

levels, yes, and it is always easier to criticize someone than to do something yourself, so , when you know me, another thing that strikes me is two things from your colleagues the first is when they interview people who were great football players, did not take place in later life and people. they just destroy their image of a strong footballer. and it becomes a pity to look at them and somehow even, but even you directly complain about them in a bad feeling, but it often causes the same thing when your colleagues call older people, that is, this is an elderly former or a football player or commentator, and they say, even utter nonsense, and i understand that this is an elderly person, that, well, it’s generally impossible to somehow taken seriously, but i condemn journalists. why are you calling, but a respected person in the past there is a football player or commentators? you ask some of his opinion, and he’s just already in force, well, some age-related things can’t be objective , he can’t formulate correctly, he already

has this kind of categoricalness there. well, that is, i show more claims in your colleagues who form these opinions. and if someone likes to listen to the opinion of these people, but for god's sake , yes, what we don't see when the matches take place winning, when the series is on, when you win, well, i understand. you come home, you are in a good mood, you don't care what 's going on, when you come home like this, you come home, and why do you turn on the tv? turn on the music, as you try i learned to live with it in the beginning. i couldn't live with it and it seemed to you that you were half the night. standing in an open window with the last suicidal step. well, that is, as if thoughts of various kinds, uh, alekseevna said that he says i don’t know coaches who don’t have suicidal thoughts arose. this may be partly a joke, but more so. this is true. then you learn to live with it, but

i say to myself, for example, that you used to close yourself from this depression. there are not all castles there to let anyone in. all this tried all this, but then you realize that since she lives inside you, you cannot let her go, because she is already there. she just sleeps there periodically, then she wakes up and no matter how many locks you close, she still comes to you will come, so i just opened all the doors, flung open, put depression next to me on the sofa and tried to negotiate something with her for the chunk of time that was allowed, until there was already a new training session. a new day and a new job. we recently talked about how important it is for the club for the club owners to hire a coach who will be in line with the philosophy and be consistent, but actually in this line of coaches. and how important is the coach himself when he goes to the club? oh this is a very interesting question. because i have several acquaintances of familiar owners. in football clubs and very often the dialogue with them is not frequent, but it is

a very small cohort, because, for example, the club owner asked the coach. and what about the coach, what is the coach's request for the leader? this is a very rare story, because there is always only a request from a leader to a subordinate. well, it's not just football. this is in any kind of activity, and i am not very interested in non-subordinates. by the way, you know that there is a vertical control system or something else a table where everyone matters a lot. here in football, as a rule, this is a vertical story. but i have, uh, familiar club owners who always asked me if the coach wants to lead here, or but what wishes, how would it be very smart people who exactly wanted this bunch of friction to be a coach, yes, and the employer . it was the most efficient and therefore your main requirement is that you do not change your requirements. that's why and when we talk about the need to choose a coach, according to the philosophy there. there are some intellectual moments that

are in the club, but the biggest problem is that clubs often change this philosophy and the leaders themselves change the requirements of the approaches. today he wants it this way, but tomorrow it’s different, and tomorrow on the fifth, that is, wait, i don’t have time. you want to learn how to skate to play hockey to participate in hockey themselves, and i think that's why it's easy to answer the question. why is football not hockey so called our refusal. but i think that football is not hockey for one simple reason, it's the level of engagement. and in consideration of one sport or another. and with all due respect. hockey. this is about local history. if we are talking about global processes, yes, then football is a global story. and therefore, for example, and what can be allowed or can work in hockey, it will never work in football. and here, for example, i think that even hockey fans will not be able to identify visual hockey players, because they are somewhere in a helmet

, someone in a mask, especially goalkeepers there. yes , some distance from you. but there is no approximations. straight even. if the frame is large, it's still very blurry. that is, i ’m dripping here, therefore, for example, in my life, no matter how much i went to hockey players somewhere, i didn’t meet. no, that is, they are practically unrecognizable . that is, they are still being popular. really accomplished people of their profession. they still do not have that level of public interest, with all the resulting minuses rather than pluses. rather than football players. well, now i’m definitely talking about the top level, and it seems to me that more. well, that is, it is in the direction of football. if we are talking plus, if we are talking in the direction of hockey plus, then in my opinion with hockey, everything is somehow more simple sincerely and the human side is more correctly arranged than in building various

kinds of football relationships. thank you very much for your time with the kids. thank you institutsky was under the cast in football. not hockey at first. see you soon. bye. this is a podcast, paws podcast psyche. my name is natalya loseva and today, together with my co-leading clinical psychologist, i am a candidate psychological sciences. michael khors. i will help our guest konstantin irokhin to understand what is happening in his family, what is happening with the children and why relationships are not being built. that's right. you are a father of many children. yes, how many children are you? well, as i say, in the overall standings i have five children, what is and what are the two children that i am now raising,

that we live with are children, my second wife from a previous relationship. well, yes, boys. yes, there are two boys. and they are of such a preferred age. well, we think that they enter actively already in this adolescence, of course this one. here is a red light, somewhere already lit. and what does this red light bulb have ? that there are some moments when the child already begins to act differently from the way you see him or not the way you have a model of behavior there for an ideal child. wait, here's the main problem. what is the problem only in these two children. because you still have children in common, so you understand that this wife also has a child from her first marriage. yes , we have two children together. and i have more the child from the first marriage is a daughter, but the problem is precisely connected with these children, who are biologically non-native to you, there are problems not so much even with children as in understanding how to raise them correctly. how to relate there biological father, for example,

and how to relate them to children with my child from the first relationship, that is. well, plus here inside, so to speak to the family. they also turn out to be water. but this is a question of a general plan or is there something that keeps you awake, you are nervous. because of this you will be out myself. are you worried about this, what is the problem? what do you know now? the problem here is not even in children. but in the understanding that you are enough every day. it's hard, that is, you invest in children. there you have four children and you bring them up, that is, from morning to evening, in principle, there is no free time. yes, i get up, there at 7:00 in the morning i’m already walking and leading them to the garden. yes, we go to bed. we are there at 11 laying there, then you feed some other bottles there, that is, i have my own youngest child 9 months old, therefore, in general, the whole situation is difficult to get, and at some point there comes a feeling, what do you think? why is this, right? i do what i need to do to educate these kids. this is not the first time you have the word right, what is right for you? here, do i educate them correctly? how

to behave with them correctly, what is it right to understand, what is it some kind of subconscious? yes , the concept is correct, that is, it is something that is. well, how to say that from a position, that they be successful, that they be very it is important that they are happy so that i don’t inflict some kind of injury on them, maybe with my behavior there, yes, somehow, so that this one is initially such a position that they seem to be like my children and not mine. yes, they are like me. they call them dads, that is, we decided so, and they want dads from their father so that this doesn’t, how to say, doesn’t harm their psyche. well, so that later, too, here with us as parents, so that it doesn’t work out, you know , it is now customary in society, as if, well, let’s say, not to welcome when a man is raising other people’s children there. well at least here are many men, they think that this is some kind of stigma, yes, that is, let's just start with your first request to do no harm. yes, yes, but everything is impossible, reconcile yourself with the fact that some of your actions to your children, whether to foster relatives, or will hurt

you. the world is so arranged that the upbringing of children. yes, it has two parts. with some of our actions, we inflict and inflict some injuries on men in their lives, and with some of our actions we give them tenderness , love for supporting the support of opportunities. if you're trying to raise children, that's the only way. and you deny. well, it's your human right to make mistakes somewhere. somewhere means to injure your children. you are essentially yourself personally yes, and your spouse, most likely, neuroticize. now you know right from the first words, apparently, now we are moving to the real problem. why am i holding back, i endure there or do something, and then this just happens to me. well, let's say a mini breakdown, right?