secondly, you understand, i’ll say such a moment right away, so that something is clear. it’s clear, but i work in expertise, not in consulting. this is for a psychologist to a consultant of a person and to share their experiences, sensations, and so on , they come to us with one and the deepest setting to say that everything is fine with him. he is perfectly adapted, wonderfully socialized, no nervous mental instability. even answering questions in the leading main questionnaire, for example, let's say the job is given to me at the cost of considerable stress. the majority answers in the negative, that is, there is no tension. kaif pleasure. super. here is my most favorite, such a component of life, and so on and so forth. but when you start talking. naturally , they understand what is at stake. that is, as tension, as mobilization, of course. flight landing. well, it would be strange not to understand it. it would already be, for example, the immaturity of the psyche. if a person was not given in this report. we had a case when a pilates girl was the second pilot. exactly after retraining to view

aviation technology refused at the level of psychological selection and the psychiatrist is not mine. that's exactly what you were talking about, that is, realizing that this is not a light aircraft. and that's all she's risking her own life with. well, the cost of the aircraft. yes, very cynical. that's realizing that it's hmm a huge board and a large number of passengers for the life of which she is responsible even to be a co-pilot. she said that's what she came up with. she feels not mine. she left with this met, and units. here are just units met more with cases when a person tries to deny. this is the fear. there was a case of a second year flight school. i won't name specifics. here he knows himself. so, when he literally had a panic attack on board, here with all the classic vegetative manifestations, blanching dizziness, nausea, fear of losing consciousness, teaching. breathing heavy to sit on

the instructors piloted further. naturally, he landed the plane and, literally in the arms of this boy, pulled him out of the cockpit and leaned him against a tree, and after all this, despite the fact that the instructor was a complete witness to the whole situation. i have this young man denied saying that the instructor imagined it all. there is a difference in the psychology of men and women. i ask this from the point of view that they don’t know anything about it at all, what my pilots say, or rather instructor pilots. and that the girls even, probably, are somehow more mature , more consciously, more qualitatively, more scrupulously and responsibly, they approach the theoretical training more carefully. well, it’s clear that this is traditionally maybe closer to a male profession. well, i just want to say that girls also go into this profession with such, you know, a steel rod, that is, this component is closer to the male type of response in almost all of them. and how wide. the phobia of fear of flying has been assessed, i mean

from the point of view of the profession, let's say flying, and from the point of view of passengers , this phobia of fear of flying is very common. well, we all, from the point of view of teaching, the acceleration of the rhythm and so on , the loads of this sleep disturbance and wakefulness is unhealthy, therefore, and any phobia is the same disorder based on the nervous system, therefore people are prone to an anxious type of reaction to depressive reactions. well, even a little bit listed. yes, no well, the anxiety is just to drown out the fish, as you can’t drown it out in any way. this is working with a psychotherapist from working as a specialist. you can drown it out with medication, that is, dull its manifestation. well, as if in everyday life, namely to get rid of anxiety. she is not subject. this is what you know, for no reason it just worries me. i'm just afraid

this feeling of irrational fear, fear of some events, the possibility of some kind of offensive that might happen. something bad, something terrible, this anxiety in its purest form. well, fear is always subjective. so i'm afraid of spiders. no, i mean, i'm not afraid of them. this is what i mean in general. here is the fear of public speaking. yes, that is, fear has an object. i know what i'm afraid of, and anxiety is not anxiety. she is more than that. i'm afraid it's understandable. e question. why am i afraid of this? and this is what needs to be worked on. it's about subjective anxiety coming out for specific fears. that is, for example, there is the same phobia of flight. yes, we're going out on m-m. here, again, i work with a psychotherapist with a psychologist. and when you need to subject your fears to understand why? you are specifically afraid, then get your memories of associations. well, dig into your , let's say, conscious and unconscious, by the way, by the way, also to find the reason

where this fear was born from and then you understand exactly to survive to live? i think that, that is, it is known. it was i who came up with the idea that a person is afraid of what he does not know, or is it one of one of, probably one of the parties in that sense, for example, let's say again. uh, phobia is irrational, out of control. this is a larger global feeling of specific fear when a person knows what he is afraid of. yes, this is where the lack of information works, when we get to know our fear, we figure it out. what are the risks? how much what are the possible consequences? let's say that in fear of the first flight it can be formulated like this, but this is not a phobia, this is fear. that is, it is normal a reasonable internal barometer. here is an understanding that some outcomes follow my actions. and i have to understand what i have to do in what situation to avoid these risks of fear and phobia. you say they are different things. what is the difference phobia is a disorder. this is a mental disorder.

this disease is a disease that already belongs to psychiatry, not to psychology. phobia is without object and rationality. that is, there is a general understanding of what i am afraid of; there is a fear of an enclosed space, that is, a person does not is in a confined space, but he knows that he is afraid to be there. and perhaps, let's just uh, understandable, uh, the criterion of phobia is avoiding behavior. that is, if a person is afraid of something at the level of a phobia, he will avoid facing this situation. well, for example, claustrophobia. yes, i'm afraid to ride in an elevator. here i will walk to the tenth floor. even when there is no time at all, but i will not be in the elevator at all, that is, by any means. i understand this, i had several acquaintances who, before such degrees were afraid to fly, that they refused any even very profitable offers. er, they agreed. only if he let him, even if much longer, he will travel by train, sail on ships and so on, if only not

to fly in any case, but to get sick on the day of departure. it makes me feel so sick that suddenly it’s really bad, suddenly i got poisoned, a great reason. but if we started talking about it, you suppose you need to fly for work, well, the accessories for life are simple, well, you need to fly and the more he flies probably this fear should be extinguished. but it is not extinguished, if the phobia is here, if we speak directly, it is very terminological, then there will be such a manifestation of the escaping behavior that it is unlikely that he will rise even if necessary. and one more thing is clear that it is possible to work with psychotherapists, by the way, hypnosis, they say, works very well. they call there. uh, let's just say, well, they're programming for amnesia. it is this feeling of fear just before the flight that fixes and motivates you for the benefit that you get from this flight. well quickness moving the solution of their issues to be there on vacation, in the place where this

accident was going to well, they say it works, but psychotherapists, let's say, work in gestalt. well, there it is quite different there, namely, a collision with one's fear of experiencing his understanding. here is his irrationality collision with him. well, as here is a face to face experience and again he retreats. these are the performances, that is, i was convinced there for many years that this was right, but suppose we drink 100 g before the flight and pay it off for ourselves, you know, well, point of view, as a specialist, of course, i can not advise this, because the altitude is hypoxia stress. that is, you are already tense here, even the amount of alcohol you are used to, and well, as if understanding how you experience drinking this kind of alcohol there in such a volume there at a height can give out a slightly different unexpected reaction. not the fact that it will be relaxation and enjoyment of the flight. tell me from the point of view of a psychologist, is it easy to determine among the huge

number of passengers among there 100-150-200 a person to determine who is afraid to fly, who is not, because you will agree that the worst thing that can be is a panic on board, this can happen during turbulence. during some evolutions of the aircraft, unpredictable for the body. he can suddenly give an explosive reaction and provoke others to it, you can determine who is afraid to fly, then not. it's easy in general. well, here, probably, only those external signs, such as tension holding on to the armrests, compressed postures such a look, she is directly glazed at one point. show often approach flight attendants. and for the time when i had some opportunity to orient myself, well, because that's what can rub? i also do this, some requests. they are straight-forwarders talking about exactly this, they come up and say you know. i'm afraid, i'm afraid i'm going to have a panic attack. i have never had this. here i am, right here and here, i didn’t sleep well and i’m very worried , i worry this happens and well, it’s just that the flight attendant has this mind from the point of view

of a psychiatrist or from the point of view of a person in people even with hypnosis, or in any case, a person who has been trained can be predicted at least from his point of view. how to extinguish this reaction, or maybe not give it away. or maybe , let's break down the concepts, there is the concept of panic, and there is the concept of a panic attack, a panic attack is experienced subjectively and individually, so i felt that i was sweating paler. i'm dizzy. i 'm afraid i'll vomit there. my breath was choking or breathing there, in general it’s hard to fear this sudden death, and so on and so forth, this does not infect a person. here's to it a person needs to approach the flight attendant. in general, as i understand it in different companies. this is done in different volumes, but as part of the training for the human factor, they are given such training, that is, from a warm cup of tea to a blanket, to, well, warm up, this is some kind of feeling of security to directly working specifically with panic attack. i can’t

tell you to what extent they master these things, but techniques, of course, exist for earthing, that is, to start talking with a person. feel your hands. feel your legs won't. now it's all in detail. yes, there to even out breathing. it doesn’t even matter how many directly clear breathing techniques make sense there, not even in this. the main thing is that he hears. what is he doing? as he breathes and began to breathe, then deep, yes , contact to speak here to pronounce it all to return him so that he began to feel his body. well, basically the physicality techniques of the flight attendants are preparing for this. that is , airlines do this at the level of flight attendant training. they have theoretical practical training on the human factor. them. medicine is given there, it is given there. this is anti-terrorist training, because there are a lot of problems right now, well, you can also see. uh, try to say the risks are possible. well, i did not go deep into this topic. i know that sorry for god's sake interrupt, we will touch this topic with people. those who have

a professional skill, uh, this is the security service, but i remembered from the word that a person is afraid of what he does not know solely for the reason that in many airlines of the world in front, the standing chair has a monitor, a fpv camera works, and during takeoff, during landing, during some kind of evolution, the brain. that's how a person is made. i see what's happening. i'm all set up for it and i'm less so. well , to put it mildly, in quotation marks, my body was frightened to a lesser extent. suddenly suddenly finds himself in a strange unusual situation, because i already psychologically i suddenly saw what was about to happen. if it were clear on this fpv camera that now evolution will take place. there, let's say 30° to the right or 15° to the left, if it would be

a second suddenly to me. they would have shown it already in the picture, just the nose sank into the plane. and now i'm already ready for this, and already even people who are afraid to fly. i think they will worry about this to a lesser extent , i'm wrong. well, here for me as a diagnostic, of course there is. this is the moment that people with a predominance of different types of reactions perceive this kind of information differently. here is this question about the volume, here is this information and how much it calms them down or vice versa raises a series of questions that follow some information about which they do not understand, so here hmm definitely, probably hard to say, here but for most, even psychotherapists advise to find out as much as possible before the flight, and the company some reviews for passengers. secondly, take a lot on yourself. i mean , let's say some. well, they didn’t give something, now they are trying to give out some opportunities for watching a movie on board. here our

brain rarely concentrates. maybe parallel to two tasks, so interested in the plot receded fear of doing something. for me, for example, flights. eh, i love to fly. here. well, there is probably just sit and think hard. possible outcomes, probably, and i would probably be able to get scared, my laptop friend. i always take some work with me. here in that volume, and there is a chic word for work and a table and an armchair, comfortable. from this it follows that the amount of other information that distracts unconditionally. yes yes even when panic attacks are deduced, the main moment there is to enter in contact with the person that heard you began to react to your words and began to give some kind of response. now this is already returning to uh distract yes distract from what frightens him, including getting him out of the state; the main thing is to get him out of the state. by the way, we raised the issue of diluting a panic attack and panic. that's about a panic attack. we talked about such

a sudden, effective state of anxiety. that's what a person usually fears in a panic attack. well, this is the fear of sudden death, and panic is already hmm term from social psychology. it's like the reaction of the crowd this is one something. in space there, let's say, well, he had some doubts, something seemed to him there, that someone else picked it up by plane. well, there, in the middle of the plane, they didn’t really figure it out, but they also got excited and began to say something. children from these conversations, flight attendants began to cry. we ran around the cabin more actively, so that those who are most excited there would be approached somehow to calm them down. and now it's all picked up , picked up by this reaction of the crowd. this panic, not panic, but panic. well, honestly, i can say how much i haven’t flown, i really haven’t seen this. it's some sort of social mechanism. tell me at all. uh, a lot of people are outraged, and rightly so, by the way, or many are still worried about the children on board. especially small behavior of children on board well, here you can say it again

, take responsibility for yourself, as psychotherapists say, that is, try to set yourself up for the flight and occupy yourself with some kind of business, to, as it were, well, as much as possible abstract from possible, so to speak, unpleasant moments, but from the point of view of the em profession, it means that you probably need to somehow distract the children, you also need to provide some toys, some entertainment elements on board, so that somehow the children. uh, busy with something. maybe, of course, there is responsibility , by the way, the first pilot bears the responsibility for the child on board, for example, let's say the parents are not with him, but there are parents of the pilot account responsibility, well, in general, there is such a thing. yes, if, for example, one child is sent on a flight, well, like this the need for parents cannot fly with him, then up to, in my opinion, the age of majority or up to 16 years old here. unfortunately , i can't say for sure right now. here he is, under the responsibility of the first pilot, flying the first pilot of his duties. if through flight attendants, of course, as if not in personal contact. no, i would be the responsibility

of the ship's commander always absolutely and 100% on board until the toughest decisions are made, but probably a kid who is alone without parents. it's still a matter of age. this, of course, i think parental responsibility. naturally, as if, well, parents should somehow be able to make contact with their own child. um, wait, i'm going to ask you a question that has nothing to do with you personally, of course it doesn't. but here we are passengers with you. yes, we both love to fly. we are food passengers on board. this is also distracting, of course, so, uh, this food should be, well, the quality is understandable, but it should be so varied and in some ways different from earthly food, so that my interest in this was, so the very thing that distracts from my phobia from my fears of flying. well, somehow i switch, otherwise look, what's interesting, you looked on

board, what an interesting thing. well, including, but in general it is considered physiological organisms begin to do this work, that is, processing. now that's a distraction. uh, at least reducing the concentration on his fear. after all, what i'm talking about is gaining a mass it would seem trifles. which will distract from what we are talking about, the packaging of even food, the mold itself of this food, newspapers, magazines in front, a standing camera, uh, which broadcasts, let's say, evolution or, let's say, in general. what are the flight parameters all together and will lead to, or should lead to , god forbid, it will not cause this panic on board, it will bring down the voltage initially and lead to the very setting that everyone should set initially. i'm not flying. i came

to enjoy. after all, this is something that is deprived on earth and i just need to look out the window. i see things that i will never see in alignment. so, on the one hand. yes, on the other sides. here's from my experience. here someone loves to fly, right now he loves to fly, and someone flies, well, by necessity without panic, without panic attacks, without any kind of diet. behavior on board or inappropriate but not enjoying here is an example of my three children. if there is time, the elder son, the first flight at the age of 9, gave such a panicky reaction the day before, his mother will definitely go. we will break, i'm afraid to fly. let's not go, i say, let's say, okay? take it away, you understand? let's make a deal then. we board the plane. we sit down in a chair. if you really feel like you can't. you and i are returning to the airport building. that's it, dad will fly to egypt as we planned to leave. well, i think, here and now he rises a set, of course, the whole ball, shrunk 9 years old he was we go into the salon. somehow it is located. that's all there is tension. well

, i waited until there is very little time left to say. well, what are we going to go out? or else they say the engines will already start. we need to make a decision. here. well, i see, somehow he is the same. well, i don't think so nothing. here the proposal to leave was not followed by a flight back, already in pleasure, it was already born in the cabin. everything is there. that's what you could see everything, walked, tried the middle daughter under 18 years old. i put it, she’s such a coward that we flew until the age of 18 only because it was very necessary right here , tears came into the plane right in her eyes. out of fear, then she commented on what she says, i just calm down, suddenly he announced, what speed what height is the first pilot i have again this return to reality, well there was no panic attack. just here is a normal reasonable voltage. first experience situation. indeed, no matter how standard, in general, uh, a feeling of anxiety and fear is a normal, protective reaction of a person. this must be understood as normal fear in a normal way, as if the volume of the formed feeling of anxiety is a normal reaction. this is a protective reaction of the body. so

i'm not protected. i'm at a height, it's normal to be afraid of another step and you'll break it. something natural. here and here, any quality of it can be, as it were, well, as we psychologists are we do, yes, decompose, well, at least on a three-point scale, the deficient amount of this quality is the norm and is already hypertrophied expressed. well, as always, good in the golden mean. that is, any quality must be laid down, formed and developed so that a person can use it, as if in the process of his adaptation of socialization, etc. underdeveloped. here's a reasonable risk. this is where i live for the adrenaline. i'm here for vivid impressions. eh, fearless. this person is not for me. this is about not quite awareness about immaturity is possible about some infantilism, mentally and so on. here is a fearless man. eh, in general, this is the concept itself, but i don’t really like a brave person, that is, understanding the possible risks of taking responsibility, understanding what could be, what could be the outcome of certain consequences, this is one thing. well

, it is clear that the level of anxiety is hypertrophied. it is, that is, down to free, floating anxiety. that is, again, there is nothing irrational, not justified. just afraid of the possibility that something bad could happen, that is, scary from something concrete in general scary of course, such people. this is the biggest risk i have ever taken. perhaps you will agree with me, that is, it is obvious. i banned it at the legislative level. we need to stop writing from the terrible. the number of publications about where what happened in the air, where did someone crash with whom else, the rest is unimaginable , nothing like this has ever happened. if you start writing today. how many car accidents disasters occur on the roads of the country, then people will simply stop driving steering wheel, because it will just be scary. here i recently held for students of the faculty of extreme psychology. there was a master class and we gave statistics. just think about 2000 years 10 years, and such

figures lead to eight thousand dead 300,300 episodes. air accidents. here is a plane crash such an everyday concept of such, as if there is no level. here are the accidents. naturally, the growth of eight thousand deaths means dead, and if we take the 20th first year, just imagine 21 years with statistics under an accident of 133,000 accidents and 15,000 deaths, can you imagine, there 10 years and 8,000, and here 1 year, but the author's movement is somehow more, well, you see, it is associated with the surface of the earth. why are the spanish attacks withdrawn? feel your feet first. feel your back. feel your hands grounding. this normal state of a person goes on earth. he is not a bird, he does not fly, he walks, therefore, someone needs this separation. this is the desire to tear off something traditional, some kind of superiority technique there, aerodynamics

dermatism there, in the end, but for someone this not needed at all. here and here they are, well , either they fall down all the fabic experiences, or they just do it with maximum tension within the framework, as it were, of the norm yes, there without manifestations of any such extreme e manifestations. here, but it is not obtained from this pleasure. naturally. i say again, this injection leads to agree one of the factors, in general, phobias arise, this is either a personally negative experience, or in the media, getting to know some kind. that's because when a person is a disaster describe, this, of course, here, well, it’s prohibitively somehow everything is tragic to go deep, therefore, yes , it’s unnecessary information here, of course. let's say it contributes to the development , thank you very much, the conversation is wonderful, i'm just warning you and our viewers that we, of course, will continue this conversation. we will delve into the psychology of the work of pilots. that

is, those who sit in the cockpit. uh, flight attendant psychology and psychology. especially the passengers. uh, because as you correctly noted, the panic on board is worse. no, nothing. it is necessary to do everything possible to avoid it you huge. thank you. thank you , see you, and i hope our conversation didn't bother you in any way. it was interesting for me to talk with you as guests. eh yulia was a slavin psychologist. all the best, see you soon. my name is sergey and i am a psychologist. tatyana

krasnovskaya family psychologist polina, tell me, what is your request? my name is polina and i have a request like this. i am a mother of three children. i am now expecting my fourth child. but when i got pregnant, i had a wild fear, and it appeared, both physically and psychologically, and it consists of two directions. first. i am physically very scared to give birth, everything is terrible. i'm afraid, as if i'll hit on a rush, this is the first fear, and the second psychological one is very scary to me. give birth again to such an extent that the first right even a few weeks i wandered even

in doubt. uh, should i have a baby at all or should i not even have a baby if you thought that the pregnancy could be terminated. well, when these thoughts appeared, you were already you can't be half pregnant. which moment? well, what can you say? only for the simple reason that it was, probably, i didn’t quite notice it initially in myself, as a mother , after all, because, well, for me it’s a thought. well, i wanted a baby and how can there be a thought. i didn’t want it very simply, because it’s an ambivalence that is characteristic of each of us, there’s nothing that you’re afraid of, and you don’t doubt it when you came to this, that is , to yourself, as a woman, it’s hard for you to admit even when you being a mother as well if you confess that you become some kind of bad woman. no, well, i confessed. uh-huh. it was difficult, i meant that i was just, most likely, myself, this, probably, i

don’t remember. that moment right exactly when did it happen? i just discussed it with your may. yes well, we talked, why is it so your first common child with him. this will be the first child ever. this is the fourth pregnancy with three of your children from another marriage or other marriages. our task is to listen to you by asking some clarifying questions, and after that to some extent exacerbate the very situation that you will have to go through here in the process of our work. how important it is for you to have a child in common with this man , there has always been an understanding that i want many children. that is, for me it is in general. i was ready for this from the beginning, but a plus. well , of course, the creation of a new family. for me it meant a joint child, but he and the man have no children, of course, of course, any men who are women.

i want a joint child with her you wanted five kids, right? so did you ever have any idea that you should have five parents? we also planned five or children , it's always somehow. well, like five times, well , give or take, huh? uh huh, but anyway? why such an idea of ​​a large family? and the question came into your mind in general. i never thought about it. do not you worry. you answer, as you would answer. if you weren't here, like a big family, i have a small family. well, i myself have one parent 17. i have one older brother. and that's it. that is, we do not have many children in the family, but for some reason, here i am and my brother including, by the way, for some reason, we, and how many children does your brother have? if i assume it's not a competition, i'm just guessing. no, we have a very good relationship , competition may not necessarily be

between enemies. what is the difference between you and your brother age with your brother. as you grew up, he helped defended, on the contrary, fought until a certain age. well tell a story together with your brother was gone. he lived with his dad. i lived with my mother, and my brother lived with my father, that is, they made the decision to divorce. well, at that time they accepted, yes, the best of themselves, when problems with my mother began, of course. i wanted to live with dad, because, firstly, dad lived much better financially than they lived. mommy and me. well, as if one in any case was difficult. i realized that my mother had problems with alcohol. yes, they were here, how serious it was. seriously, dad was with money at that time, they rested, thanks, of course, i also wanted

to live like that. and it is unlikely that the child would have avoided the question. why was he treated so unfairly? of course, they could hardly somehow convince that it was necessary there, it was easier, it was better, for sure. they didn’t discuss it. i understand this, that's why i say when you were left alone with yourself. and it’s as if behind the glass is watching how your father and your brother live, and you were in circumstances that you didn’t really want to be then. what do you think. you know, i, probably, so much, uh, it was bad for me in childhood that i generally have half blocked half of them are just here, as if from memory this is not there. that is, it feels like i just didn’t live some periods of my life. yes, in general, you know, i was

set up as positively as possible and i was always waiting for my dad and i really wanted him to come to me. i had one single thought, that there you just kind of meet with dad. i wish from waiting, yes waiting, i don't think, yes, i didn't have it. no, probably from waiting to waiting, because basically i only had the expectation of a meeting, there were very rare and accordingly, i did not analyze. who is with whom? where does he live, where does he live. i just wanted people to come to me. it's a matter of emotion. if you now try to move yourself into consciousness, that is, the very girl who wants to be with her dad there, brother, but she has to wait and come somehow hoping to count on the fact that this meeting will take place. that's how the girl could feel. well, i felt that there was nothing concrete from brother at all. i felt only constantly. well desire to see daddy u at that moment , i didn’t feel any pain at all, because i stood behind a wall , roughly speaking, for my dad, a bone hero, and he

was right about everything with me, and even that he didn’t come. i also knew he was doing the right thing. that is, you somehow explained it to yourself, of course, your reunion with dad took place. oh, my husband and i had problems, we went to family psychotherapy, and that is, the psychologist highlighted the question of what, well, that is, with dad, that was not actually worked out, and advised me to come and sit straight with dad right and straight. say i'm missing something. and what i would like to see from my dad directly. here you are, i want to sit on my knee, take it, sit well, that is, she explained to me how to behave , i took it and would come and say what i want, boobs on your knee. you didn't hold me there and i want to kiss you. i want you to tell me that you love me. i walked in the mood, and i directly told him everything and he was touched and explained to me that he is a man and

it’s hard for him hmm that he loves, but he can’t say about it, and he also has his own some internal problems, and we talked. hmm, we cried and hugged. i sat on my knees and from that moment we became very close with dad. it was a very brave act on sasha's part. yes, he changed a lot in my life after that. tell us about your children. what age? i will have a son on january 11, well, almost 10 daughters, five and a boy 3 years younger and you are now in your third marriage. and now the fourth marriage. well, my first marriage can not be considered, there is this mistake of youth for 3 months. could you tell us a little more about your marriages. the first time i got married. just a bit of an argument, it happened. uh-huh were on a bachelorette party. well, yes, you do not get married, get married. come on, yes, how old were you 20. well, i would like to dress just stupidity from the word did not even have

any relationship with the family understanding. just met fun, fell in love met. let's get married. come on here, just such a spontaneous decision, a spontaneous decision, what does he have, what do i have? i think we were both so clueless that we didn't even realize. how much money do parents invest? and in general, what we are doing and we also parted ways. at what time was the second marriage, and i will call almost immediately, well, not practically, there, maybe two or three months and i met a guy, and we started dating and accepted him. well, there, of course, everything was serious here, where we weighed the decision to live as a child. and now we have a child. after what time did you divorce? so about five years we lived, listen, i never counted in my life. well, for example, yes, the child was 5 years old when they parted, well, six months, we divorced dad communicates with the child. yes, next marriage. how

long was the next marriage, you know, was it practical? well, that is, the relationship would be almost immediately, and i fell in love very quickly. that's the first time in my life that's just so shelonitelno and marriage was. well, the marriage wasn't fast after 7 months of dating. pray in about eight. i really wanted a daughter for a long time, and in the last marriage we were not ready to give birth to a child, and we did not have housing for a child. we were ready to give birth so far for financial reasons. wanted first, that is, to buy an apartment, and then have children. here we have calculated. i really dreamed of a daughter, i really wanted this daughter. and just here the man also wanted to settle down. they decided what to do as a child, they gave birth to a child, and in the same broker or a third child, and then we were born, we immediately developed a relationship. he accepted your first

child, as if there were no conflicts. well, how did you take it? well, probably, well, you don't have to take children at all. how to say your senior, after all, he was old enough. well, yes, when you gave birth, a daughter, how he reacted to the name he chose her, that is, he was good when she was born, he was very happy happy. well, yes, he is here, thank god it turned out that they, like my brother and i , have a very good warm relationship, excellent, then a boy was born, his brother. he, too, was accepted. the three of them are so good friends with her. they are even a daughter with a younger one, who are friends with each other for a maximum of two children. that is, she was, by the way, for me

it has always been a mystery. so it was possible. that is, i left. you're not for a reason, for which, in general, i lived badly left. i saw a couple of people speaking. well, that is, i came to the event, where a couple performed business events where a husband and wife run a joint business. they were asked how it is to conduct a joint business. usually they say husband and wife, if together , then there are discord and scandals against this background, and the wife said the girl alina well, you know, with whom should he do business, if not with me, but who can he trust in this life, so how can you trust me? i just got hit on these words hit my head. i got down and got into the car. i sat and just realized that i don't want to be married anymore. why a man?

i do not trust this person from the word anywhere in any way. and let's look objectively at an adult and i still have one life for me. eh, really no idea. how many marriages should there be. i don’t have any of these principles at all, i never had any shame there, because there, you know, as many say, well, there are many, many marriages, it ’s somehow for me i don’t have complexes in this and i think i have only one life. i'd rather live it happy. i'd rather be married 10 times, i'll be good now, and the next marriage. how long did it take for me to have this most difficult period in my life for everything or in my life, and we just met. with my current husband alina may i ask you? as you are a mother with three children. and you wire these children, you need to support them. you are the only responsible adult, how did you cope with this, what other options do i want to say, i'm doing business consulting, business strategies,

creative. uh-huh well, that is, you provide yourself with income depends on, roughly speaking, how much you work. today your family looks like. how do you all five of us live together with children, he has some kind of relationship with the children, they have developed a relationship with him. and then they got pregnant 4 months ago, it turns out, yes, three three is good. now tell me, then, what is the difference between this pregnancy and all the previous ones. ok, what else is there a difference other than the fear of pregnancy all previous pregnancies passed easily for you, well, the first pregnancy, yes, it was quite easy and also comfortable. two subsequent pregnancies