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i don't have a single case. when bazinov, as it were, connected to the main stream of propaganda ideological, there is not a single case. anyone who raises him to the banner, he, as it were, acts against the earthly
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zinoviev loved hemingway very much. in his novels and in life, hemingway demonstrated an incredible ability to resist. a man can be destroyed, but he cannot be defeated, said hemingway now fashioned a figure, an eternally resisting person , just like heroes.
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bakhtino disappeared from the face of the russian land , scatter my ashes over the buttermilk bequeathed thinker. two tombstones two graves posthumous paradox of alexander alexandrovich zinoviev
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try to understand what is happening yourself without any propaganda. move your brains with your eyes try to maintain personal dignity and fight for life. don't ask, don't beg. hello, my name is alexei varlamov, i am a writer and rector of a literary institute. today we will talk about the biography of two wonderful writers, two brothers arkady
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and boris strugatsky and my guest today is the author of the biography of the strugatsky brothers, a science fiction writer anton viktorovich molchanov hello anton viktorovich hello well, let's do it anton viktorovich i'm just a reader, i'm definitely a fan of the strugatsky brothers, but i'm not a professional. i'm not an expert, you're an expert, so let me ask questions. there may be some statements that will seem fair or not to you, e naive or less naive, and you will answer. so, here are, as it were, a few theses from my point of view. well, firstly, that the strugatsky brothers were originally such absolutely soviet writers at its best. after this word, the soviet people, their father natan zalmanovich strugatsky was a bolshevik, was a fairly prominent figure, that is, of the era, and at the same time the commissar was a culturally educated person, and at the same
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time, he had a dramatic fate, like many bolsheviks in the twenties - thirties stalin period. then, of course, the childhood and youth of our heroes , the strugatsky brothers, coincided with the great patriotic war, coincided with the blockade with a difficult post-war period. all this was reflected in their fate, but their youth. this is a thaw this is the twentieth party congress - this is faith in the communist project. and here are two e romantic young men different in character, but nevertheless somewhat coinciding in their worldview. here they are, creating a sense of literary talent. he starts his own path. so, how are these writers? utopian, yes, they offer their artistic version. uh, communism of the communist future, moreover, like me. uh, somewhere i read one of them arkady or borisov, specify, but he said, so they told us about communism, they didn’t say there
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will be operating. there will not be that there will not be everything we were not told what will be there? yes and now we have seen our task. show what will happen under communism. this is true. yes, it certainly is. even now i can't be sure. who exactly said those words, because, well, it 's inaccurate. the quote is a paraphrase and any of them could say it, because that's the task. they set before themselves, when the brothers began to write, they entered into literature. they had a very low opinion of the then soviet fiction to be sure. they singled out his anatolyevich efremov someone else was cute, but on the whole they saw how boring the time was. uh, s fantastic literature. as far as it is, more and more technology is devoted to some kind of scientific achievement to some abstract ideas, and there were no living people in it. this is the atmosphere of the world of the future, uh, which they wanted to create and they set themselves enough in front of them, and they
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are brilliant, because it was the strugatskys who managed to create that world of the future, that uh , delightful image that captivates people, although the strugatskys themselves, in their presence in this world of the future, in this communism according to the strugatskys, they were disappointed quite early, arkady anatolyevich had a more difficult fate. yes, because he participated in the war. yes, he was older and therefore he was born 25 years old. yes and uh. he should have been sent to the kursk bulge. in a sense, he was lucky that he wrote well, passed the test exam in russian and was invited to the institute of military translators. and actually it made him fate studied japanese, but he knew life well. he dangled around the garrison , traveled around the country, he had one. ah, hard luck. uh, apparently boris natasha's fate was outwardly more favorable. yes, he finished. eh, school, at least periodically
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lived blockade by children, and this is health, then he said. this is also such an important factor in the biography. but one way or another, here are the fiftieth years of the twentieth party congress. those fifty-seventh year, the satellite of the sixty- first year of gagarin, all this coincides with youth and that's it. this, of course, but strengthens their faith and the faith of millions of soviet people that communism is just around the corner and nikita sergeevich promised that in 1980 we would live under communism. actually, because as far as i remember, the actions of one of the first stories. uh, the strugatsky brothers in the countries of crimson clouds takes place in the 90s of the nineties of the xx century, and there is already communism and already yes the union of soviet communist republics, that is, they quite sincerely believe in it, but it seems to me that in them more interesting. at the same time, they were not such blinkered people, while they were open and western culture and western literature , and hemingway had a great influence on them, and
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the style of the strugatsky brothers itself was largely formed, and therefore they turned out people not as machines, not as abstractions, but their ability to assimilate different literary traditions. of course, she played her role here at that time, of course, it turned out to be the strongest influence on all soviet literature on everything, this generation, uh , the thaw, but these sixties, and this is considered by aksyonov and very many other writers and the early stories of the strugatskys in fact, this influence was also written in this heminguelian style, but if we talk about their knowledge of foreign literature, then it was very serious with arkady anatolyevich, because in this institute of his he perfectly learned not only the japanese language, yes, which was with him, as it were, the main one, but english was also a second language , english and english he knew from his youth, he fluently spoke and read it, and therefore, uh, when it already became in e. now it is possible to get, uh, easier, some books that
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brought abroad. arkady read a lot of literature. what is called forbidden at that time, not translated into russian. that's why he knew well and first of all the american language. many such things that we still have not translated. that's why they very early ceased to be in the full sense of the soviet writers who believe in communism. in fact, this milestone is clearly marked, it is, in general, a creative milestone. we will say so. yes, this is the sixty-second year, because their story , uh, an attempt to escape - it was already a story, which was written absolutely not according to the canons of soviet fiction, there was no such thing in it at all. here's a brilliant happy ending. she didn't have it. just some cloudless world of the future has already been drawn in it. all horror. here, uh, some kind of world tragedy and a little dash. these terrible concentration camps described in an attempt to escape arkady tanovitch wrote. eh, from nature. he saw it, not auschwitz, he was not there. he
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saw it in tatarstan, he saw our soviet concentration camps. and this is all written from nature, and that is why it hits so hard on the sensations, of course, they learned about it only during perestroika. here it is that the fascist camps were the prototype of course, here, of course, the year sixty-second year is still important, when it was one day and at that moment they begin to write the authorities saw that strugatsky was not at all such soviet writers. how would you like to see them? yes, and they have already begun. they have such problems with the authorities. yet latent, and when the e story came out predatory things of the century, a letter just went from the central committee signed by the notorious alexander nikolayevich yakovlev, who later became the foreman of perestroika. it was then that he wrote this letter. he worked in the department of culture of the central committee that the strugatskys are very suspicious writers. it would be necessary to take a closer look, in general, they write something wrong.
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and here i have another question. speaking of which, you were very familiar with the arcadians. no, i was well acquainted with boris. unfortunately, sarcotics, than i saw twice capped and simple. not in time than you were well acquainted with what was well known. and even here we are hard to even remember how many years. well, yes, for 20 years, we probably knew each other. no one to you in your book, in your wonderful biography. the strugatsky brothers liked it very much. how are you eh? distinguish between them, for example, one is loved, we will already have one dog , the other loved cats, and one was such an example for a family man. boris natalevich. arkadyevich had such a more complicated excellent life. here is such a more disciplined other, what alcohol was nothing, and these two different temperaments, these two different characters, of course, this is also here. well, actually, i can’t understand how you can write together it’s a complete mystery, because after all, in my opinion, literature is such a very personal, intimate thing, they really wrote together. that's how it was, but it was possible, what was the algorithm, the mechanism of work, i remember
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someone told me that they met at the bologoe station alone. zhel- in st. petersburg the other back there on the ballag, it means that something is true or not. this is absolutely not true. this they themselves came up with. and all this, so to speak, went to the people. here it was a joke met. they naturally wrote in moscow and leningrad. they are always at home in an apartment in no special places. no, well, creativity was very fruitful there, when they worked in gagra, jews were very fruitful in and in different places. yes, well, more here, either near leningrad, or i’m famous for their boldinskaya spring in gagra when they wrote his snail, she’s on the slope there, and they came up with ugly swans. that is, it really is. that was a very interesting moment in march sixty-fifth year. here, uh, but as they wrote, it's like they say. this mystery, the great is. although, i wrote a huge book about them and re-read all of them not just books. yes, once again, and i re-read all their diaries of a letter, and they
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had such and such a working diary that they did not keep together, where were these sketches, where were there some drawings, some such schemes. that is, it's all scary, that is, it would seem. here is the creative process. here it is in detail, but to understand to the end how it happened and why these two were able to to become really one writer named brothers, the strugatskys is a unique phenomenon. and in fact, such a second in history. no , of course, there were co-authors of a lot of different authors. here were the brothers. there, even in our literature, the same weiner brothers. here, that is, of course, er, there are analogues. but it is interesting that again genre literature. fantasy here, detectives there, maybe here, yes, maybe, but it's still a coincidence, especially since i'm always , uh, categorically against the name of the genre or literature in relation to fantasy, fantasy is a kind of literature that comes from yes and it comes from myths. he goes so
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to speak, they are there from e, yes, from ordinary fairy tales. yes, that is, from anything, but this is not a genre. it is much wider, and in fact , there is fantasy, well, in any work of art, to that extent, yes, and here, probably , what is important, because, like the strugatskys, you correctly remembered one of my chapters, where i describe, all the differences are there, yes, when i even quote pushkin, water and stone ice and flame specifically to different among themselves, because indeed everything was different for them, that is, in all manifestations of life they were different, and this is wonderful, because they complemented each other. this is the sign of complementarity. well, and most importantly, for fantasy fiction it is very important that , on the one hand, a person speaks, er, the russian language and knows, so to speak, literature, that is, he is, as it were, a humanitarian philologist, and on the other hand. he must still be a scientist. he must know science. he must know physics. he must know astronomy and this is where they put it together. when they were young arkady said to boris well
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they read they read him, of course, but they didn’t name him in the front row, because i why did plato speak, right? platonov has something in common. in his youth, there was also such a super-communist, a super-large kind, but absolutely fascinated by this red idea, absolutely utopian, which is very important, the science fiction writer was previously simply anton's - this is fantastic prose. his stories lead him into an ethereal tract, but then certain things also happen to him. yes, for the future - this is already later there is a crisis there is a breakdown. and it is this utopian who writes cherenkur writes. the foundation pit, writes the juvenile sea and other things that have a completely different assessment of what is happening in the country , but the strugatskys actually have a similar story. yes , it breaks at some point. so you say, this is an attempt to escape - it's hard to be god - these are the predatory things of the age. although practical things. century , too, after all, it is very curious that and this is a story of actions that take place, well, after all, in the capitalist world, let's say. yes it
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the action takes place the consumer society, which at that time was hardly present in the soviet union so much. although, yes, the class of philistinism. it is clear that this is such an anti-mesan orientation of them in literature. she felt it, but still. i read somewhere that boris natanovich and already after the death of arkadyevna, there already once we already said all the nineties zero that of all the models this is the least bad, as far as the predatory things of the century are concerned. you understand the world that is depicted there is such a little unfinished nikonizm. this is it, because they they show the islet of the last of this , uh, capitalism. yes, but all over the world it is already communism; all over the world, everything is already fine. and in principle, it’s already not bad there either, that is, they pity these people, these miserable people who don’t understand anything but flat pleasures. they don’t think about anything except there, like vodka and drugs, they are treated with some pity. well, in general, they are no longer going to be destroyed, and therefore the world is in general the predatory
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things of the century. he is kind enough and the most amazing wrote horizontally in this, in my opinion, even in the comments passed . in any case, in his online interviews, he spoke about this more than once, that this is the only book in which he managed to guess a lot. that is, it was no longer a technical implementation, for example, they guessed the internet a long time ago, when they came up with a large worldwide informatorium. it was described very, so to speak, in detail. that is, it is pure internet come up with things. this is in the late fifties. these are the very first stories, which then entered the noon of the 22nd century, and that's where the big world informator. that is, when there is a person anywhere in the world, well, through some kind of big screen. he enters such a worldwide network and, so to speak, finds out everything is clearly and completely described on the internet, but these are their technical predictions, of which there are many scattered in different ways to their works somewhere exactly and somewhere inaccurate, just the internet is one of the clearest such examples. but social diagnostics are accurate and only in predatory things. i am surprised that
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no aggressors have made this film so far. although there have been several attempts and even your obedient servant did scenario development quite recently. it’s a pity that we couldn’t launch this project, because it’s an insanely relevant thing for today. oh, well, we’ll definitely talk about cinema with you. until then , let's get back. here's to this crisis that happened in the sixties. here is leonid eleonov, whom, by the way, they, as i understand it, also read, respected the ocean, and such a wonderful aphorism, an obsolete dream becomes poison. and so, as it seems to me, really, when a person has such a breakdown there is a disappointment in the idea that he devoted his life to his book. gave so much strength. by the way, this is what platonov had, and the strugatskys, as it were, had their own story. and here, of course, there is also an important era. yes , here is the conflict between khrushchev and the intelligentsia. yes , when he shouted at these poor artists and called names with obscene words, yes, and then, well, in the sixty-eighth year, yes, tanks in prague
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. then, in general, the end of the thaw, these brezhnev times, stagnation of censorship. uh, the screws are coming in and they're resisting it. yes they give artistic the answer to all these phenomena and in a sense, and the deterioration of the social situation in the country had a beneficial effect on their work, because it made them think , made them react, and hence, as it seems to me, it turns out. here is this philosophical snail on the slope, and then they appear, and the ugly swans a and the tale of the troika at about the same time. yes, this is the middle of the second half, and in the sixties, a certain conflict really begins with the strugatskys. e systems their things, without them knowing they fall back, but look they were not the only writers. whose things got back, and they themselves, in my opinion, wrote somewhere or someone wrote about them, that the algorithm
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of actions was like this if a soviet writer was published without his knowledge. he should write a letter to protest there somewhere. it's very funny how arkady natanych called. and ilyin and the kgb general who looked after the soviet writers and asked him. do you know what nts is ? mts power is some kind of machine tractor station yes no the emigrant organization, the anti-soviet magazine sowing, where the ugly swans were published and demanded to write a letter and they wrote this letter, of course, were writers who did not write such songs. yes, there were writers who went openly in the conflict of the system, well, solzhenitsyn, the most striking example were writers who migrated, because well, they could not create here, because there is not enough freedom, and so on arkady natanych and boris nanovich are jews, who in this sense, as if god himself commanded. well at least
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least the opportunity to leave for them was easier and easier than someone had no other. here they have firmly made a choice for themselves that they remain here. and as i understand it in their relations with the authorities, they have identified such a specific feature. why, what is possible, what is impossible, and they seemed to balance on this line, so as not to slide into outright dissidence, but at the same time remain themselves to preserve their writer's dignity. this is how i understand it correctly. quite right. yes, because the fugatskys and anyone who spoke about it reads their biography and understands that they were never dissidents, uh, open, yes, that is, they never signed any letters, and they never went. uh, well, how there were a lot of dissidents among their friends. that is, of course, they could support something there and in the end . they could speak somewhere and from the stage and just say something to publish in the west and some appeals to western journalists. they gave in those days. they abstained from it. they
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behaved carefully. they really appreciated, uh, your reader. here they appreciated. well, they just really loved this country, and they wanted to live here, and i didn't want to write. here they wanted to communicate with people. here they never had the thought of leaving the country ever well. well, here it is again. i want to repeat this my thoughts that truly talented people are different, that they can do anything that is turned against them. turn in your favor, yes, what the strugatsky brothers did more and more. it was such a philosophical, serious, social prose, which raised very important issues. and let's say one of the problems, as i see it, that's how much i remember how i read them, but it was like this . that means, at a certain period, the heroes of the strugatskys, here communism will come. yes, uh, it is important for them to show that communism is not just a time when there is such a supermarket, in which there is only no cashier where do you pay? and take whatever you want. no communism this time is a society in which it
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is good to live, because there you can do your own thing, be creative. there will be struggle. there will be new challenges and one of those challenges is the idea of ​​progression. yes, that means along with our planet, which already this noon of the 202nd century, will reach a certain perfection. there are other worlds that are at lower stages of development and, accordingly, earthlings send their agents here, send these progressors into these. with the aim of helping those humanoid creatures to people who live there, and here multi-ethical problems arise. is it necessary to help, is it necessary to interfere, is it not necessary, how to help and in fact, it is difficult to be god , as i understand it, yes, there, and even running away, it's all about it, but further, as their certain disappointment grows in what works, or rather, does not work. here the earth itself, our society itself, turns into a potential object of influence of some more
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developed civilizations, which in the same way can come to earth and try to solve our problems. actually about this, as i understand it, the ant is the wind, and the waves. you see, and ugly swans about it, of course, in a sense, these are the children, which means choose this other, well, in greece - you know that in ugly swans. it's even more so unconscious. that's right there with the idea. it's worth the progress. i agree that it is connected logically, but there it is not explicit , but in the anthill beetle it is true, when maxim homer, by the way, becomes narrower, like guinea pigs, so to speak, already in the hands of completely different forces. well, before that, he was, why would i return to the story of the ugly swans , and it is really very interesting, and there, of course, a very interesting image of this the protagonist of the writer of the bath vector. and yes, in which some even guess the features of vladimir vysotsky, for example, as i understand
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it, there, in fact, the strugatsky arkady was friends there at that moment, than he even took some there, and his lines were poetic. it’s just that the song asked me to say so, it’s there, but still it raises a very important topic for the strugatsky themes, the theme of education and a moment that is in earlier songs. if you can't save everyone, if you can't help everyone. then you need to help the most talented. that is, the bet is on elite. and as i understand it, some of the claims that strugatsky expressed were precisely in this, on such a social preference. yes, such social segregation is going on, that we are working with a talented one, but the rest is, as it were. well, here, here it is a gray mass, you can’t do anything with it. she drinks, eats, copulates, and god is with her. but there is talented talented, it is necessary to help the talented, it is necessary to educate
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the talented, it is necessary to promote. this is, as it were , one of, uh, such ideas that the strugatskys have and sometimes this idea is turned against them, because it is seen. here is some such. well, social discrimination, to put it mildly, sometimes harsher definitions are used , do you agree with that or not? well, i agree that the early strugatskys, uh , had a lot of naivety in terms of this social segregation. they are in their uh cycle in this, uh, noon of the 22nd century. yes, these are the stories that were combined into the roman and which later, so to speak, a number of other works were created in the same world. they are there, uh, formulated for themselves such a high theory of upbringing uh-huh. and then we already talked with boris natalievich. i often tried to figure out talking. what is high theory? you somehow painted it, at least in the theses, right? no, it generally says this theory. we just came up with such a beautiful name, but in fact they didn’t have any high theory in
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reality. they they did not own any no art of education. they were quite, so to speak, ordinary pedagogy. let's face it, they never really taught anything. yes, even with their children. in general, they had big problems. that is, this is not the case when they could not educate someone, here. here it is here some naivety. yes, such bolshevik naivety. but let's take all the children away from their parents and they will be brought up by some abstract brilliant teachers who will beat them with the best qualities. and parents will not teach anything good, because parents say, do as i do, but they themselves did badly. this past will be replicated into the future. that was the idea which was characteristic of it was expressed by a very young strugatsky then for some reason he liked it terribly, and then, of course, over the years they understood they had not abandoned this high theory of education, no matter how defiantly it remained with them in this world of the future. firstly, they bring their own world together, the future essentially extinguishes the waves from the last story, the wind, in general, was buried and
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, of course, they themselves disappointed in this theory, that is, over the years they already wisely assessed it all, so to speak, and they said . well of course it is wrong, of course, children should be raised by parents. of course there are eternal values. and this is all wrong. now, and they no longer adhered to this theory. and if we talk about what he personally told me, boris anatolyevich, he says, well , of course, well, every person is talented in something. you just need to be able to open this product another thing i would really like to talk about, of course, is about cinema. yes , that's about how their works were reflected in the cinema. here, of course, the most important thing, stalker, we will talk about this, but i would also i wanted to say that i have always been fascinated by their story, which they themselves did not place very highly on. this is the hotel of the deceased climber. well, i just admire this thing with such a, well, from the point of view of handicraft, they may be, for them it is not the most important idea there on well , how is it done there, the image of this one child, yes, which for a long time is not clear whether it is a boy or a girl. this is a child, because it's just super.
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but the film adaptation of this thing did not seem very successful to me, because it is so very serious, such an estonian film is very such seriously filmed. and they have it cheerful , modest, light cool. that's exactly the same as the baby, which, in my opinion, they also, in my opinion, did not really, but loved, but a so, let 's move on to this topic. in my opinion. perhaps the most interesting one is stalker's roadside picnic, because here is a clash, as it seems to me, of very talented writers. and as boris nanovich himself said with a titan, because the unconditional genius andrei tarkovsky pays attention to their story and makes me know how it turned out. i looked looked film stalker, again being a very young man. it was the first film of tarkovsky that i saw, and there the audience left somewhere and the superfine was cool. i watched it five times. just baldell from this movie filmed. there
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, based on the story of the strugatskys, picnic on the roadside, which i have not read. i showed you they were hard to find, then i read roadside picnic and was disappointed because stalker is much more interesting stalker is much better. a picnic to us hurts that now i recently re-read picnic i no longer understood what i was wrong and books on the sidelines, a super thing, a great thing, of course, but still, but stalker is stalker and that's in my opinion. why is this happening, because the strugatskys and, it seems to me, that's what they are. well, what was lacking, it cannot be said that it was lacking, but still, the world of the strugatskys is a world without religion, this is a world in which there is no god. whatever their currency is, no absolutely convinced atheists are definitely materialists. although arkady tanovich seemed to believe. there, in flying saucers, there is still no such rationality, but it turns out that in them not in the literary world. here is this upper
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floor, which is always present in great russian literature. whom we would not take. and pushkin and platonic and anyone else and who is in this film, and actually, it seems to me, tarkovsky showed the strugatskys with this film what you guys are missing. here, look what i'm with yours. i made a real movie a work of art with a capital letter as an excellent material, because art is only art when there is faith, when there is god, when there is a desire for higher values, and the strugatskys they obviously hurt. and so. actually , it seems to me, their later such a certain theomachism. even some of the blasphemy that is present in the story is burdened with evil. here is such an evil parody of uh, john the theologian, that's what you think about it, well, i would not say that this is completely blasphemy. eh, just in those burdened with evil there is a kind of struggle between here with such a soviet such a fight against god and
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a fight, because there they already begin. well, in his declining years, what is called how all people begin. uh, some thoughts about the eternal, and they are already much more serious about god and specifically about christ, and yet there the image of christ is written out very respectfully. that is, there, well, there is absolutely no arrogance. and there are even some creative discoveries, that is, very interesting. he's served. i understand that there, of course, all this is in the context of, so to speak, already a very large literature of this kind, but this book. here she is different from everyone. eh, it was written before that, so even here the strugatskys changed. although uh, they certainly stayed on the same level i like to quote. e from the early stories of the interns, when ivan zhilin asks the boy. yura borodin, an intern, says, you can buy it, he says, no, you don’t believe in god
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, our man is frightened, that is , the strugatskys, these two questions are on an equal footing, that is, both of them are not good. that's it, that's not too much life, and they carried it yes, that is, to really believe in god. this is some kind of absurdity for them, this is not necessary. here, well, of course, changes over the years , changes when his attitude, so yes, they are so completely atheists, but still it happens. and now, returning to tarkovsky, i’ll say, well, about this film, i not only, uh, so to speak , thought a lot on purpose, yes, and devoted a whole chapter to it, because it’s not just a movie, it really is. here are the main films of their lives. here, secondly, i was lucky while working on this book to meet sergei zinc, who was for some time the second director for rates and who recently. that's literally last year. finally released his book the birth of stalkers stunning book. i recommend everyone to read it. that's where he said it. well,
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that's it, that's how the stalker was created. i know a lot about it in great detail, so, well, and tarkovsky, i always loved it very much. and so, when you said that you looked at the stalkers literally, so to speak, were shocked by the films, and then you were disappointed by roadside picnic, and so i had exactly the opposite situation. i was blown away by the roadside picnic it was. well, it was and still is one of my favorite things. so here are a few things that turned me around. yes, here it is it probably starts with hard to be god like everyone else out there roadside picnic and definitely ugly swans. there are such just favorite books that i, uh, even there i have a special relationship with the baby, but that's another story. here and there roadside picnic for me was a thing that i immediately rated incredibly highly. she is an amazing thing. this is not just some action movie about some bandit who went to hell, this is a philosophical thing. and this ending that explodes. it's just that, absolutely amazing. and of course, when i was waiting for this from the movie. i didn't see any of this. i saw
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a completely different movie, then already, when i watched it, the second, third, fifth, there was the sixth time of this stalkers of course already. that different impression, especially when i was revisiting stalker as a very mature person, when i was writing the book, and when i was revising it now, having reread the cymbal book, of course, this is a completely different impression. i would already know so much and understand so much, including in the cinema, but this is a mismatch of position, but this is also wonderful, because real films based on the works of the greats. they must be unique. they must be they must be created. the same early great directors and so on. it works out. here an amazing chance met, two geniuses and the strugatsky brothers yevgeny of tarkovsky, of course, something simple and easy could not come out of this, of course, the universe resisted there and well, everyone knows this story. how screwed up, captivity. yes , in general, he was filmed there three times. this is just a stage.

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