well, as if it's normal parents are a child there , i'm older, you're the youngest, then in the process of growing up , parents grow old, children grow up and this very inversion occurs. and this is a normal process. but in order for that to happen , you're right about one very important thing that you said, you have to go. just take responsibility for your part of life. uh-huh and as soon as you learn to take responsibility for your part of life, as soon as this one, respectively, becomes complete, you will have the strength to take responsibility for some part moms, well, there to take care of your mother, when you need it, if you need it , help is provided to support her and accept her and love her, and it really came that you heard something important for yourself, what will you be in what will you be? well, of course, with the fact that it’s just time for me to grow up and start taking responsibility for my life,

given that i still have my own family anyway, and i bear mine responsibly at work. and that's it. and it’s time for yourself, as it were, to bear this responsibility. well, for me it was very important what they said, that's what i'm playing. uh, this scenario in my family is exclusively my character. that is, this is something that i can get rid of and only through awareness, yes, and i am very grateful that you told me a way how to do it, because it really tormented me a lot. well, we are happy to help you. thank you very much. thank you thank you. it was with you that we were kostrigery sergei for ourselves tatyana krasnovskaya and anastasia

as you know, we understand everything in sports in medicine, and in politics everyone understands this, there is one more area, which everyone uses, but no one understands what is at stake. this is the very area in which i am in love and which has now become my second life, my second destiny for the rest of my life. this is aviation. our whole destiny is there and we all strive to make something better, something more beautiful and something higher. let's try. meet me in the cockpit today will be such an introductory introductory flight, i will show you the landing of the aircraft, in some amazingly strange weather conditions at different airports at night during the day in the fog, from

then we will start talking about what happens to us at that very delightful moment when we rise into the air forward behind me. sheremetyevo tower 65 135 permission to launch, tank, 52, 135, sheremetyevo tower good afternoon, permission to launch at 5, dear citizens of passengers. welcome aboard flight 1234 training flight we are pleasantly surprised that you have agreed to participate with us. on this training flight. have a nice trip. we are always ready to help you enjoy your flight with our aircraft sheremetyevo tower 62 135 performer 0.6 central cook. you need to take

off these two handles of the engine control handle, firstly, put the flaps in the first position so that it is more convenient and easier to take off there, then we carefully add engine speed. the car started off it should be noted that now we are flying in ideal conditions in professional language called forging visibility, a million per million. the weather is beautiful. there is no wind, turbulence, no. we quite calmly receive the pleasure of being with you in the air, like birds releasing hair clips, 5 °.

started working and it's time. daughters are releasing, 30 5 landing and here we are with you on the spot. now we will try to show landing. let's say if it's raining, thunderstorm and wind we'll set the conditions. but not to

be. the locking pilot must follow this cross and this square must be exactly in the cross, then everything will be fine, so that it doesn’t happen. it’s not easy, but nonetheless. well, a little more complicated, but nevertheless, and this is

possible, now let's try to land the plane. when visibility is poor, let's say fog , i practically won't see anything. difficult. need to study. the only thing my reference point is the device that is in front of me. i need to keep this little black square right in the center of christ, and if i do this, everything will be fine. flaps spoilers flaps 2 135 landing 0.6 m/s

draft one of the most difficult landing strips is located in the mountains in order to land at the bhutan airport that i am talking about now. you need to get a special license from people who have received such a license in the world only about 20 people all. let's try here we are flying, here is the slope and the saddle of the slope. we lower the wool covers, the spoilers. the rivers go straight a couple of rivers.

a few introductory refueling designers we continue our conversation about aviation. today we will touch on the topic of surprising little, to whom we know we will talk about psychology. our guest is julia valentina slavinskaya. and valentina hello hello how do i introduce you? who am i talking to today? medical psychologist central

medical summer expert commission candidate associate professor of psychology you are related to aviation, for example, people who are trying to enter aviation, people who have entered some aviation educational institution or people who , for example, are leaving military aviation and moving to civilian aviation, you touch this category of people. yes that's right. here are all three categories of aviation personnel that you have listed, who are undergoing an assessment of their health, including the mental airborne commission, which is being tested by a psychologist. uh. well, if it is very briefly concise, the first part is the minimum part consists of two blocks. this is the assessment of the personality of the response, the prevailing and so on.

and of course, mental stability and the second block are already the highest mental functions - cognitive functions, that is, roughly speaking, pvk is a professionally important quality of a specialist doctor. well, nevertheless, do you have some kind of phobia yourself? some feeling. what do you decide, after all, fate? well, as an honored pilot, he has nothing but the sky, nothing else at all. and now you have to pass judgment say or just write in person, hardly. well, all the same, write not fit for flight work. as a psychologist in itself is not an export, that is, let's clarify this point right away. i don't write in my conclusion. eligible unfit to perform flight work. i write about whether and has or does not have contraindications. in my opinion, from the side of the psychology of psychological characteristics, in order to fulfill their professional duties, the psychologist works together with

a neurologist and a psychiatrist, and the final expert decision is made by the neurologist. this it's always all over the country. there are certain criteria. this is a very long conversation; there is a whole guideline written down. well , for years, when a number of features may indicate that a person with his professional duties is even with a high flying record. you can cope with what this may be due to cerebral vessels age-related changes in blood flow , nutrition of the brain and the quality of work, it is clear that up to 40-45 the compensatory capabilities of the human brain are very high, as a rule, even some areas of the brain work. so let's say no very. e, effective qualitative compensation. all the same, over the years, this quality may decrease. excuse me, you work with pilots, after all, civil aviation is unambiguous. this is civil aviation. this is the controller pilots earlier flight attendants also passed us and testified. uh had either relationships with people who, say

, enrolled in, uh, some educational institutions of the aviation profile. first, the student. always passes professional psychological selection. it's always impossible without it, it doesn't happen that someone entered the flight school and did not pass a psychologist. that doesn't happen. this is the first next stage when he meets with a psychologist - of course. flight practice before the start of real flights, that is, when the simulator theoretical training ends, flight practice begins and then. naturally, after three employments in the company, he came to the airline as his co-pilot, so he sat on the right cup and at that moment behind him . 100 200 300 passengers this is the feeling, what does it mean in terms of psychological stress. what does it mean for a person, how obvious is it or is it different for everyone? first, everyone is very individual. secondly, you understand, i’ll say such a moment right away, so that something is clear, i understand, but i work in

the expertise, not consulting. it is up to the psychologist-consultant of a person to share his experiences, sensations, and so on to us. they have to say with one deepest installation that everything is fine with him. he is perfectly adapted wonderfully, socialized by no nervous mental instability. even answering questions. here is the leader in the main questionnaire, for example, let's say the work is given to me at the cost of significant stress. the majority answers in the negative, that is, there is no tension. kaif pleasure. super. here is my favorite, as if such a component of life and so on. but when you start talking. naturally, they understand what is at stake. that is, as tension as mobilization. of course, the flight landing, well, it would be strange not to understand this. it would already be, probably, about the immaturity of the psyche. if a person is not gave himself a report on this. we had a case when a pilates girl was the second pilot . exactly after retraining for a new type of aviation technology, she refused to pass the psychological selection from

a psychiatrist, not mine. that's exactly what you were talking about, that is, realizing that this is not a light aircraft. and that's all she's risking her own life with. well, the cost of the aircraft. yes, very cynical. that's realizing that this is hmm a huge board and a large number of passengers for the life she answers will even be the co-pilot. she said that's what she came up with. she feels it’s not mine that she met with this, but only a few. here are just a few, i met more cases when a person tries to deny. this is the fear. there was a case of the second course of flight education. i won't name specifics. this is where you get to know yourself. that's when he had a literally panic attack on board, that's with all the classic vegetative manifestations, blanching , dizziness, nausea, fear. loss of consciousness rapid breathing difficult to sit on piloted further already instructor. naturally. he landed the plane and literally

in the arms of this boy pulled out of the cockpit leaned against a tree and after all this, despite the fact that the instructor was completely a witness to this whole situation. i have this young man denied saying that the instructor all this seemed to the psychology of a man of a woman. i'm asking this from the point of view of people, of course, who don't know anything about it at all. well, that's what the pilots, or rather the instructor pilots, tell me. and that the girls are even, probably, somehow more mature more consciously more qualitatively more somehow designed and responsibly fit electric training pilots more caution well it's that traditionally it may be closer to the male profession, but i just want to say that girls also go into this profession with such a steel rod, you know, that is, this component is closer to the male type of response in almost all of them. and how widespread is the phobia of fear of flying. i

mean from the point of view of the profession, let's say flying and from the point of view of passengers, it is very this phobia is the fear of flying. we are all in terms of acceleration, rhythm and so on loads. but this disturbance of sleep and wakefulness is not healthier, therefore, and any phobia is the same disorder based on the nervous system, therefore people are prone to an anxious type of reaction to depressive reactions. well, here even a little bit to enumerate. no, well, the anxiety is just to drown it out, as you don’t think it in any way. this is working with a psychotherapist from working as a specialist. you can drown it out with medication, that is, dull its manifestation. well, as if in daily life, namely to get rid of anxiety. she is not subject. this is what you know besvoda just worries me. i 'm just afraid of this feeling and

rational fear of fear of some events. perhaps there are some offensives that can happen. something bad, something terrible. this is anxiety in its purest form. well, fear is always subjective. so i'm afraid of spiders. no, i mean, i'm not afraid of them. this is what i mean in general. here is the fear of public speaking. yes, that is, fear has an object. i know what i'm afraid of, but anxiety is not anxiety - it is more of such an age, which i fear is understandable. e question. why am i afraid of this? but with this you need to work on specific fears. that is, for example, there is the same phobia of flight. yes, we're going out on m-m. here, again, this psychotherapist. he works with a psychologist there. and when you need to subject your fears to understand why? you are specifically afraid, then get your memories of associations. here, uh, delve into your own, so to speak, consciously, but the unconscious, by the way, is also to find the reason where this fear was born and

further you just survive to live understand? i think that, that is, it is known. i came up with the idea that a person is afraid of what he does not know, or this is one of this, probably one of the parties. in that sense, for example, let's say, again. uh, phobia is irrational and uncontrollable. this is a larger global feeling of specific fear, when a person knows what he is afraid of. yes, this is where the lack of information works, when we get to know our fear, we figure it out. what are the risks? how much what are the possible consequences? how to avoid them? let's say the fear of the first flight can be formulated in this way, but this is not a phobia, it is fear. that is, this is a normal reasonable such an internal barometer. here is an understanding that some outcomes follow my actions. and i have to understand what i should do in what situation to avoid these risks. fear and phobia, you say that these are different things. what is the difference phobia is a disorder. this is a mental disorder. this disease is a disease that already belongs to psychiatry,

not to psychology. phobia is without object and rational. that is, there is a common understanding what i fear there is the fear of a closed space, that is, a person is not in a closed space, but he knows that he is afraid to be there. and perhaps, let's say the most er, understandable, er, the criterion of phobia is avoidant behavior. that is, if a person is afraid of something at the level of a phobia, he will avoid facing this situation. well, for example, claustrophobia. yes, i'm afraid to ride in an elevator. here i will walk to the tenth floor . even when there is no time at all, but i will not be in the elevator at all, that is, by any means. i understand that i had several acquaintances who were so afraid of flying that they refused any even very profitable offers. er, they agreed. only if he let , even if much longer, he will travel by train, sail on ships and so on, if only not to fly in any case, but the tickets get sick on

the day of departure. it makes me feel so sick that suddenly it’s really bad, suddenly i got poisoned, a great reason. but if we're talking about it, would you guess do i need to fly for work, well, the supplies are just, well, you need to fly, and the more he flies probably this fear should be extinguished. but it is not extinguished, if the phobia is here, if we speak bluntly, it is very terminological, then there will be so important avoiding behavior that it is unlikely that it will rise even if necessary. and one more thing is clear that it is possible to work with psychotherapists, by the way, hypnosis, they say, works very well. they call there, so to speak, well, they program for amnesia. it is this feeling of fear just before the flight that fixes and motivates benefit that you get from this flight. well, the speed of movement is the solution to your questions to be there on vacation, in the place where this accident was going to. but they say it works, but psychotherapists, let's say,

work in gestalt. well, it's completely different there. there is precisely a collision with one's fear of experiencing his understanding. here is his irrationality collision with him. well, as here is a face to face experience, again he retreats. these are the things of presentation. that is, for many years i was convinced there that this was right, but suppose we drink 100 g before you know, from the point of view, as a specialist, of course, i can’t advise this, because altitude is hypoxia stress. that is, you are already tense here. even the amount of alcohol you are used to, and well, as if understanding how you experience drinking this kind of alcohol there in such a volume there at a height can give out a slightly different unexpected reaction. not the fact that it will be relaxation pleasure. tell me from the point of view of a psychologist, is it easy to determine among the huge number of passengers among there 100-150-200 people to determine who is afraid

to fly, who is not, because you will agree that the worst thing that can be is a panic on board that can happen during turbulence. during some evolutions of the aircraft, unpredictable for the organism. he can suddenly give an explosive reaction and provoke the rest of the need. determine who is afraid to fly, then no. it's easy in general. well , here, probably, only those external signs, such as tension holding on to the armrests, compressed postures, such a look, she is straight glassy at one point. show often approach the flight attendants. i'm here for the time when i had some opportunity to orient, well, because that's what can rub? i also do this, some requests. they are straight-forwarders talking about exactly this, they come up and say you know. i'm afraid, i'm afraid i'm going to have a panic attack. i have never had this. but i didn’t sleep well right here and here and i’m very worried, i worry this happens and well, it’s just that the flight attendant has this in mind from the point of view of a psychiatrist or from the point of view of a person in people

even with hypnosis, or in any case, a person who has been trained can be predicted at least from his point of view. how to extinguish this reaction, or maybe not give it away. let 's, you know, let's break down the concepts - there is the concept of panic , and there is the concept of a panic attack, a panic attack is experienced subjectively and individually, so i felt that i was sweating paler. i'm dizzy. i 'm afraid i'll vomit there. my breath was choking or breathing there, in general it’s hard to fear this sudden death, and so on and so forth, this does not infect a person. here's to it a person needs to be approached by a flight attendant. in general, as i understand it in different companies. this is done to varying degrees, but as part of human factor training. he is given such preparation, that is, from a warm cup of tea to a blanket, to, well , warm up, this is some kind of feeling of security, to directly working specifically with a panic attack. i can’t tell you to what extent they master these

things, but techniques, of course, exist for earthing, that is, to start talking with a person. feel your hands. feel your legs won't. now it's all in detail. yes, there to even out breathing. it doesn't even matter how many directly clear breathing techniques make sense there, not even in this. the main thing is that he hears. what is he doing? as he breathes and began to breathe deeply, yes, the contact is to speak here to pronounce it all to return him so that he begins to feel his body. well, basically the physicality techniques of the flight attendants are preparing for this. yes, they do, that is, it is done by the airline at the level of flight attendant training. they have theoretical and practical training just for the human factor. them. medicine is given there, it is given there. this anti-terrorist training, because there is a lot of this now, as it were, a problem, well, also try to see, let's say, possible risks. well, i did not go deep into this topic. i know that i'm sorry to interrupt, we will touch this topic with people who have a professional skill. oh, yes

, yes, the security service, but i remembered from the promise that a person is afraid of what he does not know solely for the reason that in many airlines of the world they are ahead. if there monitor work fpv camera, and during takeoff during landing during some evolutions the brain is so human. i see what's happening. i'm all set for it and i'm less so. well, to put it mildly, in quotation marks, my body was frightened to a lesser extent. suddenly he suddenly finds himself in a strange unusual situation, because i already psychologically i suddenly saw what was going to happen now. if it were clear on this fpv camera that evolution would now take place. there, let's say 30° to the right or 15° to the left. if it would a second, suddenly they would show me already in the picture, just the nose sank into

the plane. and now i'm already ready for this, and already even people who are afraid to fly. i think they will worry about this to a lesser extent , i'm wrong. well, here for me as a diagnostic, of course there is. this is the moment that people with a predominance of different types of reactions perceive this kind of information differently. here is this question about the volume of this information and how much it calms them down or vice versa raises a number of questions that follow some information about which they don’t understand, so here it’s um definitely , it’s probably hard to say, here but for the majority, even psychotherapists advise to find out as much as possible before the flight, and the companies have some patient reviews. secondly, take a lot on yourself. i mean , let's say some. well, they didn’t give something, now they are trying to issue it on board. eh, our brain can rarely focus on two

tasks in parallel, so the fear of doing something receded into interest in the plot. for me, for example, flights. eh, i love to fly. here. well, if, perhaps, just sit and think hard. possible outcomes, probably, and i would probably be able to get scared, my laptop friend. i always take some work with me. here in that volume, and there is a chic word for work and a table and an armchair, comfortable. from this it follows that the amount of other information that distracts unconditionally. yes yes even when you get out of panic attacks, the main moment there is to make contact with the person who heard you, they began to react to your words and began give some kind of response. now this is already returning to uh distract yes distract from what frightens him, including getting him out of the state; the main thing is to get him out of the state. by the way, we raised questions about diluting a panic attack and panic. that's about a panic attack. we talked about such a sudden, effective state of anxiety. that's what

a person usually fears in a panic attack. well, this is the fear of sudden death, and panic is already hmm a term from social psychology. it's like the reaction of the crowd this is one something. shouted in space there, let's say, well, he had some doubts, something seemed to him there that someone else picked it up by plane. well, there, in the middle of the plane, they didn’t really figure it out, but they also got excited and began to say something. children from these conversations, flight attendants began to cry. we ran around the cabin more actively, so that those who are most excited there would be approached somehow to calm them down. and now it's all picked up , picked up by this reaction of the crowd. this is panic, not panic like that, but panic. well, honestly, i can say how much i have not flown, really didn't see that. it's some sort of social mechanism. tell me at all. uh, a lot of people are outraged, and rightly so, by the way, or many are still worried about the children on board. especially small, yes the behavior of children on board. well, what do you say? here, again, i take responsibility for myself

, as psychotherapists say, that is, try to set myself up for a flight and keep myself busy with some kind of business, in order to, as it were, as much as possible abstract from possible, so to speak , unpleasant moments, but from the point of view of um profession, so you probably need to somehow distract the children too. so it is necessary to introduce some toys, some entertainment elements on board, in order to somehow occupy the children with something, of course, and, by the way, the first pilot bears responsibility for the child on board. if, for example, let's say the parents are not with him, but there are parents responsible for the pilot account, well, in general there is such a thing. yes, if, for example, one child is sent on a flight, well, such a need, parents cannot fly with him, then until, in my opinion, an adult age or under 16 here. unfortunately, i can't say for sure right now. here he is, under the responsibility of the first pilot, flying the first pilot of his duties. well, of course, through the flight attendants and of course, as if not in personal contact. no , i would be the responsibility of the ship's commander always absolutely and 100% on board until

the toughest decisions are made, but probably a prayer that flies alone without parents. it's still a matter of age. this, of course, i think, but in general it is the responsibility of the parents. naturally, as would, well, parents should somehow be able to give in to contact with their own child. wait, i 'm going to ask you a question that has nothing to do with you personally. of course it doesn't. but here we are passengers with you. yes, we both love to fly. we are food passengers on board. it's also a distraction, the truth is definitely, so, uh, this food should be, well, the quality is understandable, but it should be probable. so varied and in some ways different from earthly nutrition that my interest in it was, thereby distracting from my phobia from my fears of flying, but somehow i switch, and then see what's interesting. oh look on board, what an interesting thing. well, including it is generally considered

physiologically as an organism, it begins to do this work, that is, reception, processing. now that's a distraction. uh, at least reducing the concentration on his fear. after all, what i’m talking about is gaining a mass it would seem that little things that will distract from what we are talking about packaging even food, the mold itself is food, newspapers , magazines. ahead, standing uh, camera. which broadcasts, let's say, evolution or, let's say, in general, some flight parameters all together and will lead to, or should lead to, god forbid, will not cause this panic on board, will bring down the tension initially and will lead to the very setting that everyone should set initially. i'm not flying . i came to enjoy. after all, this is

something that is deprived on earth and as soon as i look out the window i see something that i will never see in alignment. so, on the one hand. yes, on the other hand. here's my experience. here is someone who loves to fly, right here loves to fly, and someone flies, well, out of necessity without panic, without panic attacks, without some kind of rational behavior on board or inadequate, well, the pleasure does not work. here is an example of my three children. if at this time the eldest son, the first flight at the age of 9 , gave such a panicky reaction the day before, his mother will definitely go. we will break. i 'm afraid to fly. let's not go, i say, let's say, okay? take it away, you understand? let's make a deal there. we board the plane. we sit down in a chair. if you really feel like you can't. we are with you back to the airport building. everything, dad will fly to egypt as planned. we are leaving with you. well, i think, here and now he rises a set, of course, all in a ball, shrunk 9 years old he was we go into the salon. somehow it is located. that's all there is tension. well, i waited until there is very

little time left, i say, we will go out at night or else they say the engines will already start. we need to make a decision. here. well, i look somehow he is the same. well, i don't think it will. here's an offer to leave was not followed by a return flight already in pleasure was. he's already done the salon. everything is there. here's what you could look at everything , take a walk, try the middle daughter before the age of 18 put it off. she's such a coward. that's e until the age of 18 flew. just because it was very necessary, right here on the plane came straight into tears in my eyes. out of fear, then she commented on what she says, i just calm down, suddenly he announced, what speed what height is the first pilot me again, this return to reality, well, there was no panic attack. just here is a normal reasonable voltage. first experience situation. indeed, as if non-standard in general, uh, a feeling of anxiety and fear is normal, a guardian reaction of a person. this must be understood as normal fear in a normal way, as if the volume of the formed feeling of anxiety is a normal reaction. this is a protective reaction of the body. so i'm not protected. i'm on top, it's normal to be afraid of another step

that you will break, something is natural. so, any quality of it can be sort of, well, how psychologists do it, yes, decompose, well, at least on a three-point scale, deficient the quantity in this quality is the norm and is already hypertrophied expressed. well, as always , it’s good in the golden mean, that is, any quality must be laid down , formed, developed so that he can use it, how to ask one’s socialization adaptations, etc. underdeveloped. that's an unreasonable risk. this is where i live for the adrenaline. i'm here for vivid impressions. eh, fearless. this person is not for me. this is about not quite awareness about immaturity , it is possible about some kind of infantilism, mentally, and so on. here is the fearless man. eh me in general, this is the very concept, but i don’t really like a brave person, that is, understanding the possible risks, take responsibility to understand what could be, what could be the outcome of certain consequences, this is one thing, well , it’s clear that the hypertrophied level.