you, at least, solve a lot of your tasks, so there is no certainty here. this is because pragmatism will begin to affect, it seems to me, a little later, when the consequences of the pandemic and the current crisis in the economy are already here. and they will begin to predetermine the political elections in the next elections of the voters and here then they will be expressed to hear china really is such an existential enemy. uh, because they have one ruling party or not alexander lukin head of the institute scientific director china and asia of the russian academy of sciences. uh, trump has articulated the future of politicians. well , besides, he kind of came from the entertainment industry. he is samuel very dramatically that by his pressure on china at the same time on russia, he can bring things to a world war. this is a rhetorical exaggeration. or is there really such a danger. well,

when we use such a charged word , emotionally insane politics or they consume trump. what do we mean, really? it seems to be an irrational approach from the point of view of ordinary rationality, a country or a person, but in this case, the country is doing something that from a rational point of view will not bring him dividends, even from his own point of view. so, here, let's compare chinese policy to american. yes, the chinese approach is not crazy, it is rational in china, too, they consider the united states an ideological adversary. they understand that the us will not leave them alone until they change their build to do. they don't want it, though. they are trying to establish normal cooperation, because they understand that this cooperation of china is necessary. these are major development partners

and so on. and what is the united states doing for them, a rational approach would be like this, like a policy, such as that pursued by, say, president nixon, if you have two rivals, well, for example, the most rational is to temporarily conclude some kind of deal with the weakest of them against the strongest, but, in the extreme the case with the other against that, but how to move them towards each other, trying to fight on two fronts. this is immediately irrational. for some reason they do it. yes, i totally agree because you're ideological approach as well. as we say. the soviet union helped some of its clients for ideological reasons and strained its strength. the united states is doing the same thing. it’s just that they can’t stand it, china. well, they can’t rationally approach, as you know, when

in a quarrel you understand that it’s time to put up, otherwise they will give you a blow in the head, well, you ca n’t cannot and cannot stand russia, therefore they cannot afford and even within the american elite, even if there is such and such a person, for example, trump, he came to power as a realist and tried to establish the usa from these not because he was there some kind of russian agent, is it clear to everyone in america that this is nonsense? ah, because he was just trying to act in this rational realist paradigm. here russia seems to be less of a threat to us. well, give it to her, as he said, we will agree there, we will find a common language. and we have the main threat in the perspective of china well, this is understandable. well, they immediately threw at him, if the democrats. opposition they began to say that he attached the interests of democracy. freedom of the whole world.

they, too, could have had such problems, but then it was a different time, and he bypassed them, if you remember, of ​​course you remember that kissinger's first visits there were secret, just in case, so that it would not immediately make such an explosive impression, but after all, he bypassed it, and now it is impossible to bypass it, because now is the time of ideology. yes, in america, especially the time of the picture will show. oh, you're shaking hands there with some foreign leader that i don't acceptable. come on, that's it, that means they're going to win the next election, so it's hard to make you america, that 's why she's pursuing such an irrational policy. well, nikshin, of course, he made a choice. uh, how did you say more classic try? to improve relations with the weakest rivals then this weakest rival was china and not russia, but nevertheless washington tried

to emphasize that this was not directed against russia, and in general, somehow, well, they gave, uh, the opportunity for diplomacy to smooth out contradictions and not create a feeling what danger immediately loomed, including over russia. well, other times are different morals, at least in washington, and i want to talk a little about washington morals with a person who sees these morals and encounters them in his work literally every day. this is denis vladimirovich pushilin. yes neizgladimovich, hello. we are very glad to see you vladimirovich, of course, the head of the donetsk people's republic, but first, of course, i want to ask you what is the situation at the front, if there are any serious changes behind last couple of days? hello dmitry! yes

, i'm glad to participate in your program again. eh, shifts. in fact, there are shifts at the front. well, let's go through the strengthening of the front, let's start with the artyomovsky direction. uh, here, uh, we see, and the liberation of several settlements in such as yagodnaya, which allowed us to go to the next one, and the village which is already allowed upon liberation. well, let's just say it's tighter to compress, uh, the ring, and around artyomov's, which in turn allows you to already, and fulfill the assigned tasks of liberation. that is, uh, you guys in the mountains, that is, well, more favorable conditions. ah, but uh, favorable conditions. let's say it's very hmm but let's say it sounds great, in fact, each position of the enemy is given with a lot. and with difficulty the enemy continues to resist, e,

the transfer continues. uh, reserves for the remaining items. even despite the fact that almost all roads are already, at least there, under fire control. uh, and uh, this is also the result of very hard work, and the division, as for artyomovsky himself. inside, too, the fighting continues, e, including a and a in e of the northern part, where the enemy was in an uncomfortable position , taking into account. again, uh, very uh illogical action. from the position, probably, of relations there, by our own division of the armed forces of ukraine, we know that a dam was blown up and tactically some very serious harm was done to our divisions in terms of. uh, slow progress. she did not create, that is, well, there is literally 5 days of water, which is a stream

of water that headed towards the mortar area. e, well, let's say so, he is with himself there is one, that is, in a natural way, but the difficulties for those units that are located in the northern part. yes, this is a umm serious problem, that is, increased chances of getting already surrounded. and therefore , here we are saying that the liberation of artyomovskaya continues for the time being, no one will name the exact date, and the opponents are still, uh, not ready to completely surrender. uh, this locality , he say, let's say, withdraw the remaining units, while in this meat grinder hmm , the ukrainian regime continues to grind its own. uh, their own military, as for, a other areas. uh, it means that the avdiivka direction is important for us, taking into account the fact that yes, this will already allow us to minimize

the shelling of donetsk, if navata and makeevka, and here we also see certain successes in the occupation. ah, the important heights of improving the position of our unit, it’s still too early to talk about new settlements, but, nevertheless , here, uh, in terms of the subsequent liberation of the audians, where we see, that is, a certain improvement, and in a small one they go . i know you very little time. and i have to you there is one question that seems to me to be very important. here you wrote, uh, military successes, and your forces are russian forces, and you described the stubborn resistance of the enemy. uh, well, in general, what is called in war as in war, but that's what they look like to me, like a normal war, these are aggressive shelling of

civilian objects and i really wanted to hear your opinion, because you say in such cases, it seems to me, not only frankly, but also without artistic exaggerations. i wanted to hear your opinion. could you be sure, firstly, that the ukrainian armed forces deliberately, not accidentally, consciously hit civilian targets, including the natural residential buildings of the hospital, and so on, and secondly, your opinion, if there is objective evidence that this is done with the use of american weapons ? well, uh, here dmitry is no longer a secret that the soviet armament, the soviet ammunition ran out , the representatives themselves stated this, and those who oversee those, uh

countries, uh, mean in relation to ukraine, and just now we are the last of all the shelling, and which we fix. yes, these are all nato weapons, but even if we talk about high-precision weapons, then 239 himax missiles were fired over the territory of the republic alone in a year. ah, high-precision and expensive. again, which is one of the missiles that costs about a million dollars, as well as, and more than 15,000 were fired on the territory of the republic, and 155 mm nato shells. father, and here we also say we are sure that this is not all the weapons that now you can just count, that is, not all the ammunition that can be counted,

which in a daily format arrives across the territory of the republic, including civilian objects. and if someone had any doubts there that if it hits civilian targets, then this is by accident, then, alas, no. and we have only for the last period. there appeared there two. uh, at least two proofs, but absolutely clear that this is a targeted deliberate shelling of civilian objects, that is, the last we saw in the petrovsky district, where the enemy himself laid out a fire adjustment, that is, unmanned aerial vehicles. that is, we saw this video when the employees of the ministry of emergency situations were injured and the ambulance workers died, and we see that the rescuers just arrived to work, the doctors came to work and they are being applied. here are repeated strikes, of course, cynically, of course, vile and, of course, in

the power of terrorist organizations earlier. i mean, uh, similar shelling was carried out on market. the lighthouse is too. uh, one of the districts of donetsk, that is, and when a fire broke out there after shelling and employees of the ministry of emergency situations were working, and there, again, shells began to arrive there. and three times, and the employees of the ministry of emergency situations found themselves under fire during the extinguishing of the fire. unfortunately, e. we have a lot of other shelling of civilian objects, namely objects, but critical infrastructure. that is, essentially. the enemy continues, and here is such a tactic to create not the most unfavorable conditions. for civilians, well, not to mention the mass of destroyed a-a objects in residential buildings of social facilities, moreover, with the use of high-precision weapons. that's

just a-a anatov's sample. well, again, from the latter, what comes to mind is the lyceum, but in yanakevo, but which, let’s say , didn’t look like a military facility in any way, and really for hmm but the kids who studied there, well, a big loss. as well as for their parents also for teachers, that is absolutely. well, let's put it this way. uh, educational institution, which was destroyed, and also with high-precision weapons. e of the nato model, everything here is taking into account the fact that i understand what is for you. a very difficult emotional issue and i really do. eh, i really appreciate it. i admire your objective tone. when you talk about it well, i want

to tell you, it's just a human question. do you think that war crimes are being committed in this case, or is it still something outrageous, but it doesn’t necessarily reach the level of war crimes, or e you are not yet ready to answer and it is required further investigation. i'm ready to answer. this is absolutely accurate, and we recorded a number of war crimes. it's not just in the last year. well, the previous period , what is uh, absolutely clear, and the base that these war crimes fell , of course, this is exactly what our desire is connected with, that is, of course, sooner or later to bring all the perpetrators precisely for war crimes. and this is not only my desire. this is the desire of all, probably, the inhabitants. no, the people's republic is huge

thank you too. it was helpful. it was interesting, and i can only say that i have the hope that this will end as a result of the military actions of the russian armed forces, in some not too distant future, because, of course, this cannot be tolerated. thanks. we're moving on to advertising. and after that, we will talk with konstantin vremechkov about the direction in which russian foreign policy should move. as you can see, and what russia is doing now and you just wrote a very interesting article about this in independent newspaper. undermined from within , the monarchy ceased to exist on march 2, 1917. the empire was

a national project, while the ussr was conceived as a global project. a state on earth, we will plow this land and cultivate it, turning it into one flowering garden. where our children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren will live is exactly like in paradise. film the first vostok today on perviy connect the acceptance of payments by

qr-code in the tinkoff business application and accept payment via phone or terminal, but receive credits from tinkoff.ru instantly and without commission. from february 25, scarlett's powerful hair dryer for 1.199 rubles. played with new colors, when even from afar you can please loved ones and get support. choose gifts for your loved ones and give with all your heart. big love is coming download

magnet app. play the game and win the challenge of giving gifts from the bottom of your heart magnet. at tinkoff insurance, we simplify life by issuing policies, without queuing everything online, we accept an accident report online, too, and send the extinguishment for repair. why in tinkoff insurance and get a referral for repairs in just an hour tinkoff he is one of a kind watch for free whole

download the magnet app, play the game and win prizes and don't miss alpen gold chocolate from 49.99. the vtb team will offer a solution, my joy. if only the pension would also be happy, but these are difficulties. fill out

an application to profitably transfer your pension to a reliable bank. transfer your pension to a vtb card and get 2,000 rubles. you understand cash at atms of any banks without commission, and also vtb without commission payment for services. go to vtb and everything will work out super prices for manual a mixer an iron with a steam boost a powerful hair dryer and other equipment scarlett choose for vilbers. someone sees a 120 credit card for everything, but i see an opportunity. 120 days for everything is already in rosbank and you can get a smart column such as gifts without interest, buy it. translate shoot a column in play 120 rosbank credit card 120 for everything rosbank is a real opportunity. today, an independent

newspaper published a redacting article written by the editor-in-chief konstantin and konstantin is with us. today. here is one from my point of view a very illustrative quote from this article. over the past year, no one in the west has ever recognized eligibility. at least one of the concerns of putin, the head of russia, as if everything were idle and groundless inventions of the president of the russian federation , the expansion of nato is normal to reduce the flight time of american missiles. why do you want financial and informational support for putin’s enemies in russia, a legal right to oppress russians of the russian language and culture , or a legitimate fight against separatism, but uh,

it seems to me that this is very accurate konstantin definition of the west's approach to russia, and if i understand putin correctly, that's exactly what it is. definition on his part of the approach of the west, and contributed to the decision, but a special operation, but you ask a more fundamental question in your article. with this approach of the west with this approach of the field, if there are some opportunities to either influence the behavior of the collective west or find some kind of common language with it, well, either there is only one option left, and finding a solution on the battlefield is your opinion. well, actually, these are the things that you quoted, they really, from my point of view, characterize the absolute immutability

of the reasons why the special military operation began a year ago, because these are the reasons. uh, forced putin to make this decision. now everyone is talking about when the operation will end. is it possible to negotiate? i am absolutely sincere, especially if the interlocutor of competence ask a question. which of these threats to russia, from putin's point of view, has been lifted this year by nato expansion of weapons along the borders there financing opposition. uh, economic sanctions, suffocating, uh, which lead to a decrease in the level of socio-economic development. and this is a direct threat. e in the country yes , socio-economic risks are exactly the same risks as others. i tell myself no, nothing happened. then i talk a lot from diplomats to western politicians and journalists from leading publications. right now , i gave a lot of interviews on the anniversary, and

it amazes me that it is the chief and the bureaus of the leading american and british media that are asking me a question. why doesn't putin want to stop the whole thing, and as if there is no understanding of why he started it, it really feels like he woke up, he says on the wrong foot, let me go. i speak. and what is this decided? no, this is not resolved. that is, in fact, we are talking about what the yalta peace is about, which was formed as a result of the second world war, in which through the mechanism of the united nations and many others. uh, treaties between countries were recognized not to worsen. the security conditions of no country ceased to operate by their actions now it stopped acting directly. the question is if it makes sense to continue uh to live by those rules, waiting for you to just uh choke you no, and i think that what is happening now is an attempt. i still emphasize not as a result of the third world

war, but an attempt as a result of a special military operation to solve the security problems of russia and, as an example, to solve the security problem for other countries. that is, this is an attempt to reformat international relations, based on reality, the reality is that you are not protected in the world that was created following the results of the second world war, but to allow the third world war to create the rules of the game is stupid and irresponsible, so now yes it is very difficult. eh, the situation. i believe, but as a result of this situation they are a world war in the end it seems to me that everyone will go to negotiate security conditions for all countries in an equal world i looked at several of your recent interviews. and uh, you said there one thing, it seems to me, a very

important thing, which is more and more indisputable in russia and not so indisputable in in the west, namely, that one goal, one goal that the west set in its pressure on russia, has not yet been achieved, and i would even say, uh, this pressure had the opposite result, and i'm talking about the consolidation of russian society around the supreme commander around putin and you several times in your interviews. uh, western edition to western tv stations. you said that uh, in general, and if someone is counting on internal pressure as a factor to force putin to change his behavior, then these people live in a world of illusion. am i correct in understanding you in the first place? and secondly, why do you think so? if i understood you correctly, i was absolutely correctly understood, because it's hard

not to understand, but for me, here i go again, uh, on this topic. uh, because a lot of people are trying to reason, and what kind of russia will be acceptable after its uh after putin, a very simple question in russia is that these people will disappear somewhere, and who are these people? who is the majority that supports putin in his decisions? you have to deal with them if you if you hold free elections, then it is 70%, uh , of the people who will support and only 68 according to the latest data, the vciom and 80% that approves of putin they will also come to the polls. and you will lose, that is, not understand. with what kind of people, with what mood and with what ideas about the safety of these people you are dealing and outweigh everything in the way, as if you say it again, he himself will come up with something. and here is the support. this rating just says that the majority of russians. shares putin's concerns and that is why it is important for you to understand what

russia which borders, by the way, with 14 countries along the perimeter of its borders 14 countries. each one has its own interests. and these people believe that the security of russia is very important and they support it, so to have with these. uh, the russian people will have to deal with it for all the coming centuries, and this realistic view will not come up with that people think one thing, and putin thinks another, and the opposition thinks, the third and migration thinks, the fourth is a mistake. and uh, hegel was my favorite philosopher in my youth. he said to comprehend what is, that is the task of philosophy to comprehend the russia that exists now is the task in order to understand why, uh, it is the way it is. they are the way the poles like it. there pribal there american or other europeans. yes , they may not like us, but we are like that. and we must understand that there are attempts to understand why we are not like that, and therefore they are always wrong in

forecasts. that's when he looks at the situation. they understand, as konstantin nemchukov just said, that not just putin is like that, but that russia is like that and that it is serious and for a long time? does it in beijing thinking about how to build your relations with russia and america i think that yes in china there is even an expression in relation to russia, jandon. this is a nation of warriors. well, that's what ordinary people would call it. and by the way, this is not necessarily even positive. well, sometimes it's positive, when they want to tell their leaders that you are pursuing a policy that is too soft, but on the other hand. they understand that yes , this is how it is, and therefore, in principle, they believe

that the factor of deterring the offensive of the west of russia in one form or another is beneficial for china it's a match. you are their best interest. they have some questions about the forms in which this is happening lately, but uh, in principle, uh, russia is the most important partner for them in this sense, because they understand that if russia did not exist, if russia was defeated greatly weakened and that's all that's there, nuland, says, uh, if china would come true, it would be bad, lonely. yes, the americans would begin to attack and restrain him not only from asia, but also from europe, and therefore, naturally, they they would like, as

they recently said in their proposals, they would not just want peace . they would like a world in which the security concerns of all parties. uh, would, uh, be taken into account, first of all, russia, yes, that is, all these here, about which you just spoke, uh, requirements or factors that have not been resolved, so that they be resolved. yes, so that the west takes seriously the fact that russia does not believe that the arming of ukraine, that is, it believes that the arming of ukraine by the west is an undermining of its security, a threat to its security cholera, so that, let's say, some kind of, well, neutral status of ukraine is taken into account, and so on. that is, all these here, uh, ideas are understood in china, but we somehow understand what exactly , therefore the chinese position is unacceptable for the west, because for the west well, as

biden said, all sorts of chinese proposals, they are beneficial only to russia, and with us from washington , the brand bishops, as well as a renowned international consultant who often writes for the national interest magazine. mahal you heard the assessment of the international situation. eh, how does he see situations? who are they as the situation sees beijing but it’s interesting, the biden administration, it’s at least somehow thinking about this, how it perceives the situation in moscow , i’m talking about this konstantinovichi, how it perceives the situation in beijing, as alexander lukin spoke about it well, we all tried to understand somehow, how washington sees the situation but before you answer my question. i want to show a short video with how president biden flew away from poland and decided to

climb the plane. and here he goes in this falls. and here he is running again stumbling. why me that's what uh focused on, actually, anyone can fall while climbing on a trans plane? i definitely could. well, trump never falls, because mark. if you look at how trump walks, he holds on to the railing. he understands his limitations, and he does not impersonate, but he does not pretend to be, let's say, a young athlete. although it seems to me that he is physically stronger than a biden and the people who surround him all the time i feel that they want to prove something to themselves and the world

how powerful they are, how special they are and how not only do they have superior value, but even the president can climb faster than anyone, at least faster than all 80 years, this ladder climbs into an airplane. but if you like, some kind of lack of judgment, which in the case of a trap is innocent enough, but that's when it extends to serious things. you start to get a little frightened, are these people capable of making rational decisions? dmitry is certainly one of the contrasts that chat creates. and how do you know electoral politics. uh, that's rare. uh, uh, foreign policy is rarely a factor in electoral politics in the us, uh, as a rule, uh, elections are determined by what happens inside the country, not on the geopolitical scene,

but it's interesting, for me to note, uh, to say krump, because without it seems to build most of its the pre-election campaign is precisely on the issue of foreign policy, because as you remember, when biden won, uh, the favorite phrase of many of his supporters was the grown-ups came back. but i'm not sure if what we're seeing right now is with china with what's going on. now e in ukraine is a sign of veteran diplomats who understand well what they are doing and who can show at least some success, so you are mistaken for your original questions. yes, people in the administration, of course, think about it today, there were articles that say that the americans. uh, well, the baidan administration is, uh, putting pressure on ukraine to either show

serious results before spring, or enter into negotiations with russia. i don't know how true that is.