it is a club, it can behave in such a way that it is understandable that it is forced to behave in this way. well, is it normal or are you swords annoyed? tomsk region, far away, not a prosperous region there are six oil and gas producing enterprises, there, and so on, industries work seriously, but there is not enough money for football, as if there was a football team in soviet times. there, conditionally in chita , a serious level, then beyond the urals, football began to slowly die. it is clear that hockey is closer. yes? there is a hockey team not quite in tomsk, but it also has such principles there, the city of sputnik of tomsk is closed city. there are some there, but not in tomsk itself, so for me this one, well, an annoyance that, as it were, does not heal all over the world, and you have seen clubs that make money. and we have well, firstly, in particular, secondly, to add

that sport in general is a business is extremely difficult. it’s hard for me to say, as if i don’t have an answer to your question denis, because i kind of suffer from the fact that i was in russia in two clubs, tom and balticalingrad, and in tomy we suffered. the same picture in mine when i was there, the same thing happened in kaliningrad when i didn't receive a command for half a year. i had money. yes, the budget has no right to spend money on the development of professional football, but there are no other investors. no, other leverage. again, i don't have an answer. how is this issue resolved and why does the same thing happen and what remains for us to do? on a more serious level , this topic is clear that the rfu cannot but the premier league does not solve this issue. this is the right of investors

who have the ability to support teams, but obviously i may not be entirely right, but i will give an example of china so that either it is exempt from taxes or they are reduced to a level where it is profitable for investors to invest in football and there has been a sharp jump in financial investments, maybe go this way. hmm, it’s hard for me to judge the example of china, it says that there was such a possibility and it was decided you don’t have an answer, why and there’s no answer, what to do to change the situation, we recently talked with vadim evseev, who assure that no matter

what russia is a football country. you have feeling he's right? well, somehow on this topic. i think this is a question that does not have a clear answer. in the sense that in russia football loves there is no doubt, and the world cup, which was held on the side, as if once again demonstrated, yes, that we love football and like that with all our heart, but in order for us to have opportunity. playing football all over the country is an issue that we talk about all the time, but it stands still. why is it considered that there is less growth of good talented football players in our country? it seems to me in everything times in russia was rich in football talent in this sense. and uh.

suddenly, for some reason, this rodnichok begins to dry up. it seems to me that the number one problem is that prestige, or rather the coach, works with children and young men. this profession has not become prestigious. rather be prestigious. i assure you, in soviet times, as coaches working with young children, they were quite well provided for. their salaries were at the level, well, with the old players of the colossus or class b. i mean a coach who works. yes, there was a strict grid categories. everything was strict there, but the coach working 5-10 years with children, his salary stopped such that he was easy. well, as if supporting the family education is clear that it is necessary for any coach, because now looking at what is happening, and in the regions, again, hmm a professional footballer. the hockey player ends his career and immediately becomes a coach. after all, this is also somehow wrong. as far as i understand, again, returning, and in the days of the soviet union, you will not be allowed to the higher school of coaches and children without appropriate

knowledge. you know, in this sense, i also do not quite understand what is happening in the soviet era. this is the academic education he receives for 4 years he studied there in historical culture. or there, at the university of education of a specialization, a coach, he received a base and a serious serious education for 4 years when he came to work with children. he already knew, because in each course there were work with children, young men of different ages, and so on. uh, football management, well, the ussr sports committee has always been very clear about working with trainers working with children were constantly refresher courses, seminars and so on. it was very prestigious to work and such tournaments were held that were, well, the national championship, there is the cup of youth, the cup of hope, and so on and so forth, and in the past, players really came to this work who played later,

got an education, and plus they constantly growing with their team , the competition was the highest and in order to become a coach to work here in the millions. well, professional teams by itself. and this is like competition. she gave the issue of coaches who are already working on stationary teams there with team professionals. it seems to me that this level has somewhat decreased due to the fact that we are now academic education costs nothing for those who graduate from schools. they must obtain licenses from the rf football academy academic education. there, without a higher sports education, you can get this license. only passing well courses, which are several series per year 3.5-7 days and then internships. well, it seems to me, only a person

who will work for a long time or get an academic education and work with children. he can become a coach of the highest level there. we discussed artyom dzyuba just played in the team of champions, he was the main striker there. superstar petersburg and in six months everything ends. well, i hope that everything will continue for him, but questions. and what is all this already the end of a career? yes , he still had those moments. well, the oil of it there is a transition from spartacus to that, then from spartak went to tulun. yes, he will. yes, it’s like artyom separate stories, and he will find himself this time too, if he wants to play what he is a player player, and by nature a player is like a football player, he is not just a football player, he still knows how to play, and he has the quality of the other

story is that he at this age we can not lose players who are the national team player the captain of the national team. but if you remember, he did not come to the national team, no matter how it was not through the open gate in the gate on the side. he couldn't play the glass. he went out and became a hero. this this is in the style of artyom when you need to prove it, he will gather there, having closed his sleeves, and will do everything according to my standards. no matter how he was there, he brings together in the russian championship today even the russian championship. he is the player of the first eight smaller in the world. and just like his story, you can’t end a man, six months ago the champion was not the last person in the team. and all of a sudden he's nobody. yeah, there are such moments, in my opinion, not only in football art. wherever there, wherever we turn, especially among men such a warehouse, how can he be the first he should be? uh-huh let's talk to you about

what's going on with our football, again . in such a global context, when ira just heard that we have the opportunity to move to the asian league, but i was smitten. and well, i somehow unambiguously reacted negatively to this, because it’s a loss, but besides the fact that the loss of european competitions, and for clubs, this is a loss in my opinion and is focused on children, that is , it’s one thing when you come to moscow real liverpool there paris saint-germain and more the thing is, when a team from the asian group arrives, there is another side, because the team needs to play football, but everything is not easy there either. well, even imagine, if we go to asia, win fifa won't give us the right to play in the world cup, probably the easiest question, in my opinion, from what you have already answered 100%. the point is that i don't see a single reason that you said about moving to an asian confederation. with all due respect

to asian football. i'm talking about vela a lot happy years and i understand that football is good enough there, but i see no reason for us. e they say we need somewhere to play. and who said that we will definitely play, and i'm not entirely sure that the team of south korea or japan will suddenly agree to play with us, and there will be no problems or the australian team there. yes, we will play there with iran and iraq. yes, we are now, in my opinion, and in any case, we have the opportunity to play with these countries, so if we talk about playing, uh, i don’t have it, so i understand that we are definitely there we will play in comfortable conditions, the second moment. we say football is a business to play in the asian confederation for all teams - it will just be a waste of money. we won't make money there. nothing whatever in europe, my aim is to play in the players. we

have some earn. and if he successfully passes decently earns, right? and the asian confederation is one of the poorest. yes, we need to be patient. i think it's kind of weird. what is there, how will our history move forward in the political sense. yes, it is clear that we are because of this we suffer, but in the end in hockey we have a closed league, but we play hockey players grow up a lot too. they say that there are such situations when i remember that for many years. the serbian teams were also cut off, but the players grew up about the british, not to say that the english clubs were also in european competition. hasn't been long enough, has it? well, then we need to get together. and in this sense, here

i have just a question for the football manager. yes, to the officials who are involved in this, to come up with something so that the championship would be interesting for us. yes it means that for this it is necessary to create conditions when these matches in the category of what is called yes were as many as possible. and lastly, speaking of quantity, what did you say guidelines for children? yes , indeed, this is a strong component, when children see why? we are already committed. i think we have a chance. here in this situation, for young players, competition may be reduced, but there is a chance to prove themselves to break into the squad to prove when foreigners. we don't have such a high level now. uh-huh this is the first, the second for the trainers working here in these conditions. i mean, domestic specialists also have a chance when they are less uninhibited, less free, when this is the pressure to definitely play at the level of european competitions,

obviously. well, no, there is no such thing. yes, and therefore the coach has the right to make a mistake, when the coach does not have this pressure, he reveals himself differently from his own experience. i know when there is no pressure you feel much freer and from here it is transmitted to the players. this is the internal state coach, when you are not clamped, not clamped, i don’t know the subconscious level, but how you players feel very much the state of the coaches. let's talk about cameroon. let's the world cup is over, correctly, i understand that you watched the cameroon, especially, of course, in all of me that i should flirt at all times, of course, i stay close and close with the cameroon and moreover, i somehow got it like this, that this year the cameroonians suddenly remembered me in the sense that suddenly the football players led me with the weapons of sweetheart at 4:00 were late with my anniversary

on the morning of the seventh, the phone rings. and a young man there addresses me in russian and says that by will, kuzmich , i am, uh, guys with the cameramen. we decided to congratulate you on your eightieth birthday. uh-huh, how can they not read. i don't know there, what happened there. yes, i say, wait. what time do you know now in moscow, yes, 4 hours. yeah, i say, so this morning means at night, and i mixed up four evenings. in general, they congratulated me. happy birthday to guns, honey, and so on, yes, and then some english the company shot the film in the nineties nineties . eh, bones, ticks, in some french manners, who also shot a documentary about me there, somehow everything happened in one year, but it turned out, and this world cup, which now i was hoping that cameroon, as it were, again will shine. well, this is it. for us, it

was easy and natural to play. he says, there are argentina, which will then fight in the final, there are brazilians. so i looked, of course, with them. well, again, they are. yes ancient alien. yes, there is a coach, well, me i think it's indecent to say that, i guess. it seems to me that he simply did not cope with the team. yes, it seems to me that he didn’t cope, and that’s because, as there is such information , he managed a lot in this team with a plus sign , this is one thing, when he paid off all debts and so on, but his pressure was also not very good, therefore the fact that there are talented people for me has never been. that's what i always thought. i think the cameronian players are very talented. well, there are a lot of problems in the organization, and this time i also have this. at

me, about the same thing was to erase the highway. anton was when he gave a born interview before the championship, where he wrote that we were not ready. the federation did not prepare, did not give anything. and we had to come to a gentleman's agreement with him that he would remain in the team decently and in no case does not arise. and here he was with us throughout the championship. he didn’t play for a second, but behaved. just like a real man. he helped. he was already cute holding the locker room with his fist and so on. so uh so it was so if so will, probably, yes, here he left, and in general, she promised, to be honest, i always thought that it was. is it really that much i lived on there was a kunda. why did ronal live in the central defender? it turns out, well, there were no family ties. and what if we talk about the character of the africans, there is something similar to us when you worked with ours. mi football players worked, then brilliant on the spot. basically

cameroonians. uh, very vulnerable. hmm , there are different ones, if with an iron rod, but, well, cameroonians cannot be scolded. hey, you can't scream. crush. uh, i don't know, maybe i had such a situation. well, they don’t fit the word without complexes, but they know how to put themselves in any situation, yes, and i witnessed when they were preparing for the first match at the excitation of the army barracks, where they lived in 24 people. well, on mats, without sheets, without pillows and so on. yes, here are more world cup matches and suddenly we arrive in paris, we are accommodated in a hotel , i follow the next room, such a loud voice. it turns out that the player saw

a hair curl on the bed, and he chastises the maid. why didn't she fix it? why didn’t she lie, she takes her into account in such a tone, cameroonians, they can behave perfectly in a restaurant, they don’t know how to hold a fork like a leg. what glass, for what, unlike us there for water or for wine. they are in this, i don’t know where they got it from, but these are very difficult people, yes, well, as if they love football without noticeably. well, including myself in football, too , the fact that the moroccans have gone so high, it’s just not about the moroccan national team, but that the coach worked there for a week without a year, he worked there for a month and a half. this is what they generally talked about, yes , some kind of modern history, and it is piecemeal, that is, we should look at it as an exception , or there is something very much in this. you know when the coach comes to the team. and he does not break anything, but preserves what is, and

obviously he explains that the main thing is that the main characters are not me, but you, in this championship you must play simply at your level. there's not from the sky, the players fell. they they play. they they just played. how? well , maybe, uh, it's indecent to talk about it, but i am, in short, the pirates of the world with their camera said that friends, you did a great job. you are on this holiday. and now here you are enjoying football. yes, you can do it. this is this, and this is how you should get pleasure and obviously so it was built in about the same way, when they began to give 100% in every game and when they were there, well, nadya died there, but fought this suggests that the coach just inspired them. he created conditions for him so that they would get from it, as well as enjoy football. still capable now gives pleasure. what, i say, i am the national championship. i enjoy

the true sincere i watch everything, this is one match in the premier league all the matches in the tour everything in the tour i watch for work. which coach did you find interesting to watch now? i just love working with cards. well , i'll explain why a very difficult situation arose for him, he came to the team. and when they are there at the very beginning. yes, when all the foreigners were there, they started to scare everyone and that's it. then suddenly the foreigners leave and at some point the team sank, then i’m looking now that’s who the rostov team today consists of young guys who were rented by someone, suddenly got into it, why is it unclear? yes, rostov comes from lokomotiv and plays football there as it is, then there is a lot, as if there is a position where, as if i can’t say everything in a row, how the wind is for me. yes, there are issues there. and how karpin

closes them, how he moved from one structure to another, how he began to force goalkeepers to start from the gate. it would seem a completely different situation. he knows how to give that and the other third. and they are not afraid of anyone. i suspect that it will not be easy for them now. here, nevertheless, they will find it, because the team seems to me that he is in the collection a little bit, as if not the drop that was there in spartak and so on. therefore, i look at the work, i look with pleasure. i really like the wings. it's just that no matter who they stay with, whoever leaves them, the structure of the game remains, the players understand what is required of them. well, not only that, but they still lack the skill to do what is obvious what they are preparing. here, in these difficult

conditions, the team does not lose its own, as it were, my own self. it is also a pleasure to watch. we have another very bright coach. and we followed him, well, really such a very curious career, how it developed not only in russia but also in england in holland, i mean for the institute and his return to rubin, which is rapidly falling and for viktorovich remains without work. do you have an explanation for what happened. why so the man who won with cska champions, who was really the brightest coach in our country? yes, in general , slutsky’s relations are very competent, knowing who knows how, there are no questions about his professional qualities, there are no questions at all. do you remember, he came, in what conditions and the team played the first stage of the very first rubin if we speak?

then they lost, then the players began to leave, and most importantly, how the key players who occupied instead of them left , it was assumed that the players would replace them there, and suddenly this did not happen. yes, this transition. that's what karpin managed to cope with, just lenya did not succeed in any game that i watched, they did not lose in the game. but something was missing. not enough in front, not enough in the middle. there. well, creativity, or something, and these are mistakes, i myself found myself in such a situation when we flew out. i didn’t have a way to get out of this then, well, yes, we lost, there were 13 people at that moment. more on

the team leaving new ones came. and so we began to lose confidence. i told you from coach very much depends at some point. i started looking for what was wrong. why doesn't it work? why do we play one game, we don’t lose in the game, we don’t score, we miss some moments. here is the feeling. uh, the uncertainty is passed on to the players. quite possible. this is the psychological moment when lenya suddenly, uh, began to look for problems in refereeing problems. it’s hard for me to say it in some other places, but i, of course, worried about him and, frankly, suffered along with him, no matter how it was. we shared one piece of bread cska no matter where and suddenly i don't know such an obvious question of psychology . for which i am sure that it will be very soon. i don't know. i'm

sure i already got it. invitation our podcast is called football, not hockey , hockey in your very bright and rich biography , i was somehow brought up on that hockey, when we shone, we won the olympic games of the european world cup in a row without even closing our eyes. i saw it for the first time. what are the reds of the world championship in moscow in the seventy-third year, and uh for me. uh, i thought that all the time, so if i didn't play football, i would probably play hockey. although i almost never skate there. well , that's all, well, two different sports. i didn't think about it until we ended up in football embroidered two groups would say football and hockey then there was uh-huh 33 football coaches and 10 hockey coach. and we made friends there and with these andrey from there we were looking for zenith, st. petersburg, leningrad and with peter

sparrow. he gave us his skates to we played in the yard there you something yes, yes, yes, the generation that is older than me, they played football and hockey at the same time, yes, in winter and summer they had such a division, as it were, that football is a more intellectual game than hockey hockey very simple it's me saying, it's me saying, well, that's the hockey rink over there. 5 x 5 run and erotic cska with their eyes closed, knowing that if fetisov conditionally accepts registrars, well, on the left heel, then the first paz will definitely pass diagonally to the right somewhere and there already attacking the flank, it should already be like this, as if i were saying it. well, reasoning, and then, when i started, as it were, to look already, as i

really understand, there is a lot of such things that larionov is now instilling. i'm looking for the lower yes, well, i'm looking for what there is, too, i have a lot of time freedom. i see there what he played when he played in cska, he came to the nhl and became a professor there. or whatever, yes, because i counted how many times less than fourteen did, which means it's bad. well , i see that our players are shining there. yes, here i look with envy, and where are ours? you've already talked about this footballers. not at this level, and that's why hockey is very

close to me. this is my intellect. we are equal , it still depends a lot on who plays hockey and what hockey they play. how to put the role of the coach, the coach is also in hockey. it seems to me even more significant than in football, because there you need to manage operational thinking. there should be here's an instant this year is your anniversary. this cameroonians congratulated you already happened. we congratulations in advance. and tell you 80 you see, who still says, i'm ready to lead any club. give me an offer to be considered. are you ready for the stereotype that has been developed in the minds of employers, obviously depends on the fact that up to 70 years old the coach has the right, as it were, after seventy this is already the end. it's already dementia. i don't know why i don't agree with this at all. yes, there are some physiological changes know, right? well

, here is what concerns the analytical moment. somehow well, i don’t know, maybe it’s only subjective, i feel about myself . that’s how i feel about the importance of the coach’s work in the analytical contribution . if the analysis is like this well, logical, or something, it’s normal there . let it work after 60 after 73. but to conduct a workout. well, actually, in the work of a coach, the simplest thing is to conduct a training easier than anything. no, when i spoke , i answered the questions of the students of the higher school of coaches, which is important for successful work trainer. i have singled out four most important factors for myself there. there the first factor is to be able to convince

the employer in the direction where you are going. how do you want to solve, well, the tasks that you face. how to solve it is the second such important aspect to create a team of like-minded people. from the first his staff to his assistants. so it happened in history that i didn’t come anywhere. i came alone and from this one they gave me who to help me. i had to inspire them to explain to prove, and they must convey, as if i have no feedback from the players for a long time. and they already have, because they are in this team, they grew up there. well, it was like that abroad and it was like that in tomsk. and through my assistants , communication with the players gets more feedback, and when i convinced the assistants that we are working in this direction. i allow them, as it were, to contradict themselves there . the cost is sometimes statistical moments in the choice of composition; such moments are my task

to inspire to convince, after all. order, yes. the third factor in the relationship with the investigation of the mass media with the fans without this , well, it’s just impossible for the coach to achieve something, therefore, the answer is not ready in the sense that you need to be convincing not in front of you in front of those. who suddenly came up with me olga yuryevna smorotskaya once i was talking with my general director there with stepan islanshtein, there was somehow we were talking. they asked her for the players that i would like lokomotiv by the way , i had later, well, in a conversation. she says, well, how does he handle the ball. 20

back and made time for us. thank you very much it was today. thank you. we are with you very easily and simply yes, very nice. thank you very much, do not remember today in the football podcast. my name is denis kazansky, see you soon.