baranova your son is fighting for russia no matter how old he is 21, and then he adds zelensky will never get crimea back, because the head of the team is still on the way. in greece, riots after a passenger train disaster that occurred near the city of larisa in athens around 2,500 protesters came to the office of the carrier company to express their anger at the accident. the police responded with tear gas. then young people began to set fire to garbage cans on the streets . as a result of the railway the disaster killed less than 40 people injured more than a hundred, the head of the station was arrested transport minister, resigned the country declared a three-day injury. a new major fire in gagaya ignited a two-story building of a steel structure plant inside gas cylinders exploded on footage of the american media thick black smoke is visible the authorities attracted a specialist in hazardous substances to fight the fire more than fifty firefighters managed to bring

the fire under control, i remind you of the causes of the fire to be investigated last month. in the same state derailed and the train that was transporting dangerous chemicals caught fire as a result of the air getting into the foil poisonous gas, which during the first world war was used as a chemical weapon, the investigation into the madman has not been completed so far. 20 million inhabitants of argentina were left without electricity, given that the population of only 47 million is almost half of the country, the reason for the fire-nuclear power plant otucha, which feeds the most densely populated region, local media report that an emergency shutdown system worked at a number of substations and work. the nuclear power plant was suspended for safety purposes. no, not only at home, a blackout seemed to work at the height of the working day at the stations, they stopped servicing the subway car, people got up, they had to get out of the tunnels and move on on their own , the local authorities assure that the power supply will be restored in the near future. experts say that it will take about two days. everything,

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hello friends. you are listening to a non-format podcast today in our studio dmitry malikov miya boyko my knowledgeable karina cross. valya gypsy band carnival, and i'm anton lavrentiev i have a lot of questions hello dmitry. yes , they often say that you are on the same wavelength of youth. can you tell me how it manifests itself? i am wide open to the world. and so to speak, i don’t live blinkered, but i try to follow, listen to

your songs, somehow, so to speak, follow the trends. what is it to do? also try. well, at its level fashionable nothing so special. to be honest, we know each other a little, because we often participated in the same project of the first channel. fantasy, by the way, performed very well there and no one couldn't guess. what? uh, you seem to be on the same wavelength with the youth and you somehow underestimated their subjectivity, firstly, i'm not the only jury member, there were four members. eat. you always give me the lowest bolt, but we'll see. well, i think, damn it, we don't know each other, but why is it so? did i sing every song so badly? this show had to somehow still choose someone. everyone was good there, in fact, everyone sang a lot. here was a fantasy on channel one, friends, so if you don’t understand what the experience is about

a little was not enough. it’s just that i really didn’t have enough for an adult song like gagarin to participate in this panayotov show at all. i've never been able to sing in karaoke , it 's absolutely impossible for outstanding vocalists, it's just that dmitry in no way wanted to offend, like the devil's advocate. now i’m giving in, but it seems to me that it’s the other way around here, as if it were healthy criticism in order for you to become better. look , the fantasy show has passed. on the first you were given the first points, and you brought today we have such a wonderful adult song drama you understand, it turns out that a catharist happened for the first time in my life just 4 years russian radio on channel one sounds your song my dear - this by the way, tell me, please, an interesting moment. but you know that your previous songs , your hair color caused simply delight and squeals, in children somewhere around 9 years old, that your direct target audience was. well, the age of nine is even smaller than pikachu

. why so many views are all small. i actually saw the video parents showed the child cries turns on pikachu or the mother does not know. he immediately begins to dance and it’s a huge job to love children well, it’s really difficult and most valuable when he loves, but it’s such a responsibility in fact, because and this is like raising children, and i don’t have, no obscenities, no promotion of alcohol cigarettes is nothing like that. well, yes, but i myself, as it were, are not like that, that's why the children. i love them very much. we have a big family with kids. i am the eldest, that is, while my mother gave birth to others there. i didn't change with that. here you have such a specific vivid image. how did he come to you? here is the blue hair. i have a producer. sasha tequila is mine, and when he found me, we were sitting, he says you need to be memorable, in order to bring you to the market faster, so that people remember you, come up with a hair color for yourself. i came up with blue, i liked blue. so he began to be in this image all the time. i just

thought for a very long time that i can really do it. this is her blue hair, when i speak at a corporate party, i don’t put on anything but a wig. i don't come like this that's why i always have them with me. here they are. well, of course. i suggest we want it, come on, let's go kudryashkin musicians there, do you know how to do it? that's it. no, wait. well, it suits you very well, how cool.

and let me suggest such a heading , it’s called, that you give me to you mine, here we have many artists with very interesting pseudonyms. i will name a trio of, let's say different interesting, uh, names and your task is to guess a real person with such that he exists. in general, what is really

such a performer. here with such a strange or not strange pseudonym. the first trio of amora, dora slava flipp. i don't think so, unfortunately. by the way, maybe someone now uh, thanks for offering to pick up. so, it really is such an expensive performer. yes, the next three. but you don’t know lera the porshik yulia toksik and dasha doshik, do you? a helping hand, perhaps. this is indeed the correct answer. and i even know, and for what it turned out to her in childhood , her mother did, uh, such pigtails. eh, let's just say her hair looked like doshirak. yes, and actually everyone called her that. she took it as the pseudonym the next three. and alex sleep egor thorn sonya

mushroom. i tell her, so we know, so nastya curls kristina lisa fresh well, curls nastya, you are also a famous girl here. in fact. i want to say that dmitry you guessed quite a lot and no, really, seriously. by the way, i remember there was one period. hey, i really wanted to tell you about this. i saw how you even filmed and wars are videos on a social network. yes, and they were very very funny very interesting. and now you keep filming. no, why? well, i don't know, i'm tired, but still. here is an example of desire. eh, continue to interact with the youth, that is, to do something , the so-called feats, i still have. i have dima for you. now it's just a suggestion for such a small competition uh, take mia's songs and uh, imagine what this song could look like if you arranged them in a classical direction in a classical direction they are

such light songs they have such a very cheerful mood, like in classical for me only only mozart well, by the way, mozart also once played at dinners. well, yes, on the compass, so for the fact that she can be impressed. yes, simple. that's what kind of music you like, besides your own, by the way, i don't listen to it. do you know dmitry's song this song? you know, now i will tell you in my defense that i grew up on foreign music and for the first time in my life i

heard the songs of sergey zhukov at the age of 22, when i went as a counselor and my ears were wrapped in a tube. i thought how can you listen to this, a couple of years have passed, and i'm on concert zhukov just like that annealed. so we can sleep. hurry and kiss. it breaks me everywhere, and here, if we talk about seryozha zhukov yes, look at him. and here i am at ninety, you were still small. in the late nineties, he was mad. mm, the success of these songs is also a boom, yes, then it ended. he completely disappeared into oblivion. i don't know how much to ask him. i'm just afraid it didn't exist at all. and now, by the way, he is again at the peak of popularity, he is the most popular artist in russia the most. probably he collected the most, luzhniki 76.000. in short, you

know my songs, but your mother grew up on my songs for sure. for example, for example, you know this, you can just take any and dem, yes, yes, she is brave, like a free wind, i did whatever my heart desires. show cool, i like it. how many good girls did not fall in love with me caution of all protection and perhaps try to fix me.

there is no other such thing in the world. well, to be honest, how many times have i tried to sing, and in karaoke your songs are always very strange looks because you have so, well , the timbre is such an interesting unusual repeater, it's insanely complex, especially with female vocals, but my mother doesn't think so. my mom is just very very good. no, he sings badly, but he is not

shy from the heart, yes. and tell dmitry. i know him that you were already going to stadiums at the age of 20. please tell me where stunned 19. excuse me. sorry for a minute. the fact is that this year for me and whitewash marks 35 years of my creative activity, i began back in 1988. and here i wrote several songs, and i was invited to the festival of the moskovsky komsomolets such a path to gorky park, it was the twenty-fifth of june. at the same time, i entered the moscow conservatory on the pianoforte. here, uh. uh, then in the fall. eh, there was a shooting of the new year's program, it was impossible for young artists to get into it at all. but then, well, because there were artistic councils, the format is obtained there, and i wrote the song until tomorrow. so hmm, so to speak, then i still with great difficulty in this program took and it was enough one ether of one

ether to wake up famous on the first of january. yes, because yes, it was e so much. well, there was, so to speak, the need for some fresh blood. i was only 18 years old, uh, and hmm and a poet oh, that, girls that's your age, so young. everyone went to my concert and this popularity that hit me. uh, thank god it didn’t affect my personality, as it seems to me, that is, it didn’t arise, star sickness for only one reason, because uh, i was a full-time student, and i there were tasks parents brought up in such a way that it was necessary to finish it, since the sanatorium was 5.10, and it was like that. well, such a pleasantly pleasant bonus such from fate. and one more thing, i just ask him if there was a hatred at that time. and if he is now, maybe, on the fences, they wrote something. hee-hee, it wasn’t especially then no, well, how not, firstly, then only radio and television

appeared. there was no internet. here there were no mobile phones. yes, a telephone mobile is no hate at all. no that you were, but you didn't hear him, what the letters were bags of letters. mostly. they are all like that, yes, people in love are girls, but imagine, guys, imagine, we won’t feel this anymore, don’t interfere with letters written by hand. it seems to me that you are losing what to say to pass? you can share with us how you deal with the hype, and with all this history, honestly , there are a lot of me on the internet too, as they say. here we want to listen, because it seems to me that he always goes somewhere close to popularity. you don't think so. it's just that a lot of people don't understand it. and here i would like so talk more, so i used to take it very hard. because when millions of views went there, i ’ll do something wrong, or i’ll start changing in appearance. that is, i'm not used to the fact that when i perform on the show business track, people will

discuss my appearance, my age, what i didn't choose, how to look like i was born with this appearance, how would god give me such an appearance, i i live with her. that's what i discussed a lot. there you are old. valya is prettier than you. val, you have no idea. how many were comments. valya is prettier than you and i understand. why us with you that's somehow how it is, right? well, i did. it's a shame, i sat straight, and then, i realized, firstly, i am discussing everyone who is interesting and popular, and secondly, people who discuss it are sad to sit there and not well, maybe they have problems with family, maybe they are offended at school, and thereby they simply pour out. of course, i'm hard domestic. yes, i just pour everything on me they feel better, and i thought i reviewed it, if it makes them feel better, let them they say. and i remind my friends that you are listening to a non-format podcast. i'm antoine lavrentiev, my co-host is karina cross. valya carnival today our guest is dmitry malikov, not boyko jeepsy-bent. what

song do you have? when i drink i listen to russian folk songs seriously, no, i really like the steppe in shirokaya yes, i don’t sing it. you can just play it. yes, of course, of course, performed by the choir. listen with headphones to the choir of the sretensky monastery. and i what other russian folk songs? here's what you like, which is possible, here's a look at we know who we are. of you pay now all just who among us looks like that. yes, i know, but you can somehow play me god of fire is waiting.

where are you in the kitchen? what a vibe this song i remember, uh, her grandmother uh, her birthday is february 1st, and she constantly gathered girlfriends. and i always hung out with my grandmother. and here they are for a glass, and then such oh frost, frost was cool the same blue shred. la now we are watching granny. i will help you. in what city? yes, in rostov-on-don , in the small village of anton by the way, i prepared. e, i know that i can and have my favorite song lyube

what do you want it to be called? you are dusya’s aggregate you are dusya, you have a favorite song we are doing the challenge now, so your task will be , and each time increase the playback speed, i will help you take a line and at first i sing very slowly, then a little faster, then even faster and we need understand yeah. well, we can't just tell you. let's just sleep. let's do something interesting with you, you will sing. yes, we will try, but then you will cope she's the coolest, where's mine not? where is the pain?

where are my forests? clearly, we are accelerating. the guys in the woods accelerated, accelerated,

it was impossible to move them. we have uh. yes, we have a stylist here and actually a song, uh, under which we could change your image, why raspberry veil? we have a crimson sunset here. e, vladimirsky so you know the nineties. yes, your task is to work out corporatism. let's announce so the song sounds for the third table from samara and for you and for you for all for us molodilnitsky central wind, north and there heart. vladimir central wind north,

although i'm still life size yes, but not shko. usually ruins 11 ace. this is such a review card game stop. this is a card game. this is not what you thought 21 21, if such a song, you can sit down. i would just like dmitry to know that you can find out how at that time it was possible to charm the audience, in fact, in those years everything was easier, because there were fewer artists, there was much no internet and there was no such competition. you see what a lot of people say. i very often heard from artists who are already held. why, here's a one-day song here 's a one-day song, today they all songs

come true prophecies that said that in the 251st century everyone will have only 15 minutes of fame.

he is my voice of spring in an updated state . i just prepared another cool one for you. this challenge will show two portraits, and on one portrait there will be a composer, well, a person associated with music, and on the other portrait just artists, your task is to determine which of them is an artist. and who is the composer? look, i think he

writer. yes, i think it's very good. do you know? can you external my name is familiar grove, golden. you know exactly what kind of writer you are. please state his name. let's go forgiveness. and this composer no, edward knows this, in general, if they don’t refuse me, dmitry can join the game. so here we have the same. and this, of course, is the composer, this again i have such a memory of the bid, i remember his name in the language of spinning. he is the hatch. beethoven is pulsating

tell me please, you should know too. who is this? i think it's the writer. no. well done. excellent, he hung in everyone in the classrooms of literature. it looks like he looks just like that, this one red face knocked me out a little, but salvador dali understands this, and this is tchaikovsky oh well done. well done, moms. listen to me. well, it seems to me, you're right well done, you just did very well. thank you very much dmitry guessed the same. yes, of course, i don’t really remember grieg, how he looks , dmitry relaxed. i have now come up with a brilliant occupation, and there is no one better than i, who specialize in short vids on

the internet. here karina gave us an insider that you filmed in the video, yes, and now i propose to make a trend for your song. it will scatter everywhere, i suggest you hype a little on the movement to disgracefully simple, of course, we will learn it now. now we'll do everything. okay, my star. yes, we have gone to look forever. no, golden golden, huh? lёkaya than my high right? you are lonely to me and your best golden golden. today in our

studio dmitry malikov miya boyko is my expert, karina cross. varik konoval and anton lavrentiev also a jeep siband behind ours is beautiful. we have a tradition at the end of every podcast. we are creating a mini-track. we are the president. we always say that this is a hit diman the king of a lyrical ballad and is with us today, therefore, it seems to me that something should be in the mode, maybe such a soul, some romantic problems about love. naturally. let's love they are happy. they are happy need words. we need words. we need the right words, it means not to return not to return not to return you necessarily. ah. i don't want. without you stay, for example, so yes, what else do i want to forget you, but i want to stay with you. and i don’t know how to remember your hands, to float beautifully in the sky

with clouds. never part. well, only dim then we need we need we need star harmony. be kind. you've warmed up the slides enough. please

eyes, i want to forget you, but i want to tell you never to leave, never stay 100%. which song turned out cool. are you leaving the image of songs for children there or not? you see, i feel responsible for these children, and they have not yet grown ugly. ah, to get away from what they gave you, these children are given to me. they loved me. how can i leave them?

well, like, yes, but music for both children and adults capture an adult audience, but the children continue to order and love me, but they don’t understand. my adult music and this is such a conflict, you can have 35 years on the stage for a second, here you can ask dim for advice, here's what to do with a person who has a creative crisis with artists. is it possible, in your opinion, by retaining this audience to get another adult, but in the same time for this project to be successful for adults too , for it to be a hit, because here is the music that you compose and play, but how can you describe how this style is zero and new, how cool, then in any case, but unfortunately for a long time anyway. can you keep this audience childlike? yes, what to do? well, they are growing. yes, they will grow. yes, and new ones that are born. they live they

well done, you can have more children, but listen , give birth. well, life will show that for them there will be other artists for them, but from the category appeared. maybe heard like forever, my friend for a friend lp ppp. yes, yes, and now she had a concert and now they are called to the corporate girl of gogunsky. this naturally process is nothing to it. it’s just that i, too, when to be honest, when it’s been here for 3 years 891, when these girls were breaking, i thought, i thought that it would always be like this trying to escape the audience, it's impossible. here i want to ask the mind. do you have any association songs. here, which are associated with some kind of i don’t know, here are emotions or with some kind of event. maybe we'll go from there. then you like it, i can’t go when the artist has a hit. eh, how many examples should he continue to beat at this point to work

as a hostage of this image. if you go back to advice, then i think that you should definitely try to make new material that will be great. from what you do to adults. yes, yes, you need to understand that this is a take-chance. that is, it can get can come in. you yourself are already an experienced person, you may not come in, but this does not mean that it should not be done. maria and i think it will be even cooler if you sing for us now. why am i so important in your eyes? more than once, not

twice, now my soul breathes about you, as always , i don’t give a damn, and i scream surprised. something rude that you said that i was just a friend, even though he fired on my lips all night and i secretly in the morning for some reason i believed in your eyes the heart was torn on the papa field

, the soul has not yet passed about you, as always sing. and i'm screaming. you said i needed. i'm larisa guzeeva this is a podcast of letters. today

we are talking about the great maria callas visiting me. maria vardenko, playwright and screenwriter sergei bulanov is a music critic, and today we will talk about maria callas about what letters she wrote to whom and whether she actually wrote them, because one of the most famous letters turns out to be yours yes, tell me why and how suddenly you introduced, uh, all delusions. come on, let's start with maria callas in the process of studying various materials about her life. i was shocked that her idolized, as a singer idolized, as an actress, but no one loved her, as a daughter and as a woman she was, uh, an unloved child who was born instead of a dead boy. she had an older sister for 6 years. if that's why she fell in love with an adult, i'll tell you, she fell in love with dad first of her husband, who was hers. over 30 years too old and i'm not

at all unsure. whether she loved him, she , uh, found dad in him. in any case, she found in him a man who was absorbed in her work. he loved her as an investment object, that is, it was completely obvious that he fell in love with me. he, of course, did a lot for her, and there is a lot of evidence of how she walked around with her finger like that, she was obsessed with jewelry after her very difficult childhood, very poor and such, when she worked for the whole family, and she , of course, was, by the way, never went on stage in jewelry. i was in monaco yes, in the casino, where the exhibition. here her costumes were jewels, and all the glass. yes, yes, and now she meets with a pineapple, which the boy tells her sing. but in general it is, to whom it is 100 years old who gave up enjoyed with the great yachts of money, how much do we have? we will travel and live our own pleasure, the person who

told her, relax, be free, only love is needed from you and nothing more. i think that of course, uh, she's a hostage of her gift, when you're thirteen years old from the age of 14 get up on the galleys. first you earn for your family. just for food. you feel responsible for your sister and mother you feel responsible for what it means, uh, she's such a poor talent show kid, i mean her own mother from the age of 13 began to exploit. i can't even fingertips right now. transfer. which of the great actors, and musicians, singers from prosperous and well-fed families, can be remembered offhand. for example, i can’t do that, everyone goes into this profession in order to free themselves, to become rich and famous and independent, therefore there is nothing like that in the fate of maria callas. by the way , she is also not from here, so to speak, not seven billion to him it didn't fall from the sky. that's why, just, i would not exacerbate

just so linger on the fact that aha, how unfortunate she was. childhood. it would be happy. i have nothing to sing about, so she is a hostage of her gift. she put it first on her, her lord. uh, he just kissed her on the very throat and gave her the opportunity not to turn bricks, but to go out to her son, where millions of applauded. she very quickly became famous, she fell in love with the whole world very much because of the short time, not only that she considered herself, but she did not leave a slave, as of course, she was her servant to golgotha. firstly. it gave her the opportunity to communicate with the greatest and most famous people of the whole world with the same anassis. she would never have met in her life. if by that time she had not already been a greek diva, but also the first voice of the world, in fact, she had a fan, as if marlene dietrich and all the stars for that time differed, which is not easy. uh, i wrote, i don’t know, in

such a superlative degree and appreciated her so much, what are you talking about, and here hostage hostage - i meant hostage as a person who is everything, being, which is laid behind this voice. you see, thank god that the lord gave her further, the choice was already hers. but now i want to dispel some rumors and legends, because you are doing this in more detail. and you know, she didn't have children. and yet mary was not a ballerina. yes, where they value this short segment so much, when she can shine on stage and at more than 30 is already retiring, and so on. it does not affect you in any way, on the contrary, a hormonal explosion. and it only strengthens the voice. you sing better why didn't i have children? is it true that she pineapple did abortions on a and him so to speak? under his pressure. yes she had two pregnancies from one session. and for the first time

, she now needed an abortion. he said that he had not yet had two children, no jaco, and even that famous letter that you wrote. yes, if possible, i want to read, maybe not everything. yes, there are a lot of explanations somewhere. you didn't believe that i could die of love. know that i am dead. i can't sing anymore. no, you will read this. i'll make you. you will hear my lost voice everywhere. he will pursue you, even in a dream he will deprive himself of reason and you will give up, because he knows how to take any fortress. he will get you out of the pink hugs of the jacqueline doll , he will avenge me for him, he surrendered in thousands of tens of thousands, he stepped in front of your bear ear, but he will take it. revenge. no, you won't turn away. you will drink to the bottom of the confession of my voice, numb with grief, who refused to publicly choke insults,

who considered it impossible to be in all hearing and abandoned he was in session, arias, and that's why aryan. he could not stand the baseness of your slap, he retreated very much, but i know he will not give you rest. he sits there for me for my public shame for my current loneliness and without a child. whom god gave so late, and whom you ari you forced me to kill. this is your letter. it was you who wrote this letter that misled him. e a huge number of people, because many people think that this is really a letter to mary pineapple. yes, my own. papa sent me letters from maria callas with words. look what mary was talented, it turns out that she not only sang wonderful. she also wrote wonderfully, since it was written in the year 2004, when i was still working as a journalist and writing essays in all sorts of ways. i also began to read this letter and i think, my god, she really

writes very well somehow. and the main thing is somehow close to me, so i just completely forgot, because i went to work in the cinema. and i already forgot everything, although i even published a book by that time, and the story was that i made essays for me. maria callas decided. uh, because such a great figure do not write anything, eh? uh, with such a detached author's look, write this already. it seems to me, described, i decided every moment of her life. i am consecrated in the films and yes, and in the book after all. it was 2004. still not out yet. here is this wonderful, and the volume, uh, edited by nikolaevich about uh, kolos is wonderful to make just a witness. what a tom wolf - this is her fan from america. by the way, mine is growing completely. i am also very, by the way, excellent, speaks, does not communicate in russian with everyone who wants that so kolos learn? yes,

he is an amazing person. i decided to simply make such a deletion, consisting of various testimonies that were then not so known to her housekeeper, her chauffeur, her man, whom i introduced to the pineapple. i have not met anywhere. they met at the reception. in monaco, but she was with her husband. she was now with a lady, and she now after some time sent her an invitation to her together with her husband. they went there and there she had all sorts of stop-cock blown off in front of her husband's eyes. yes, it completely blew the roof off. as they say now, i don’t understand, listen, in monaco, the roof didn’t blow off at the reception, but she’s famous. i'm christina, in my opinion, yes. but suddenly it broke, maybe when she saw all this splendor and imagined herself in these scenery. no no, this is the pure love of a woman. the ocean is the sea. yes, pure hormones.

i had such a complete feeling, because to explain, like this, this is the crisis, yes, firstly, he robbed her. so it's a relationship issue. she probably earned much more than he earned anything at all. he, of course, sacrificed for life. there was a very rich man, and for the sake of living on her, he refused twenty-seven, or something, enterprises and told his family, who could not accept the fact that he was marrying some very young unknown singer. yes, i know what he wants to say. it's hardest to believe in love. to the oligarch to the billionaire here, maybe somehow it's hard for me to imagine a nudiva, a beauty who made herself. she was absolutely fat truth. yes, here are the photos of youth. she lost 60 kilograms. no, she dropped a kilo, probably 130 or 40 like

this, well, that's already. well, it's a lot of yes, and uh, turned herself into just a dream of millions and how it did not affect the voice. this is generally how colossal it should be and suddenly she falls in love. uh, in ugly not young being married. well, the pineapple player, too , aristotle, too, was not free by that time, but he was. come on, he was in a state of divorce and big ones. uh, how to say big upheavals not first love for a second. yes , he had a lot of any. here's a little for me here always here at this place, well , a pragmatic jacqueline, which we also time less there. not zero, there is such an american, very material here she is there she is like that after the president, of course, only onassis, but do you believe in such, but i believe. i know that she was absolutely, not calculating, made them one.

they were two greeks, two of the most, so i'm not even talking about the fact that they are famous greeks, but listen, well, they will always understand their own, especially in a foreign land, especially when it was a time of troubles what a terrible, it's post-war right. here, yes, the first years, when, uh, well, it was difficult for a loner, but here they are absolutely understandable common childhood. yes, one cuisine relatives one language, after all. i think language also matters. well , let's get back to the yacht, here on the yacht this is a mystery, this is a mystery, and they soon divorced and no longer hide it. yes. already officially, she went out with anasiom, and i completely lost my head. people who knew her wrote that if she were a little more cunning, then she would, well, at least this slowed down would not tell anyone, she cheated on her husband with an anassis, what happens with

opera money, she did not slowly write her husband a confession in a letter, which allowed him years later. e already, when she was gone to litigate for serving. she had an inheritance and everything else, there was a small piece of paper where she wrote to him that i was leaving everything mine, which means a fortune to strike. it was just the same momentary impulse that, out of love for him, she and he used this scrap in the first place. this is the first muscles. yes, i know, i have a letter. dear gerber, what is happening to my mother, i can’t get away from it, she’s in the hands of ordinary corrupt intermediaries who make money and on the usual fact that she just has to me, everyone considers my husband’s matter a billionaire, while he has not a single centime. he appropriated everything that i had, not only a house and jewelry for happiness. he had to give up the idea

of ​​getting 50% of the sales of my cds, someday i'll tell you everything i can tell just eight whole years. i went out of my way to make this marriage real, when i discovered that he transferred everything to his own name. this turned out to be the last straw. yes, of course, you will agree that before i didn’t have a very happy expression on my face, wasn’t it even mentioned in the press, and the journalists started arguing, why and what goes wrong for me? that's it. i don't think larisa is. she was not happy with him. she was not happy with him, as a woman in general, it seems to me, well, even if today, well, looking around, where money is there is a big problem, especially in relationships i say again, it is very hard to love to keep believing. uh, i don't know when they earn next to me. there is a huge fortune. she was constantly on tour,

but he went everywhere with her. if his husband had not been allowed to go somewhere, by the way, she would have entered literature. we have letters confessing that yes, well, after all, she was not a belashvili who depended on her master, you know, for a bowl of soup to her there was no need to pretend to be in love. she immediately became, uh, a very wealthy woman, as soon as she sang on the big stage right away. she had contracts, but she didn’t have the same fate, you know, transfer singers in a cabaret, then there was no one to replace her with. here is this operetta story. you see, when suddenly, by chance, someone heard and so on, everyone heard her immediately fell in love and began to invite everywhere, so the story of her. i return to the story with anasim. and now, out of naivety, in her purity, she was absolutely sure that if she divorced cambric, and she has now developed with her mary in my opinion,

mary is also a wife. yes, he had, and they must, in theory , get married, then listen, but in greece , after all, there are not such free morals as in the same america . them, and that's how they are pressed by love. yes, it’s scary, then she immediately became pregnant. you know, there, like a child getting married. well, such a big greek family is planned ahead, and a man who has such freedom and so much around just scared like a man. i had a feeling that in general and many wrote about this when i read materials about anassis, that he collected it like a stone in a collection. you see, he has a lot of stones in his collection, then he saw. here is the largest diamond - you said, by the way, you were indifferent to ananassis, but don’t prove it, they say he didn’t even really like it, that is, he was on a yacht. there,

probably, the girls were entertaining some kind of pop music, and he didn’t really need it. here is high art. i'm dropping everything they said around ahmaria, ah kalos, why? why not uh, so that he has it. you know, in the cities of europe it is very rare in good areas that you can see how some two young guys are riding in a convertible in some paris and that means they have opera turned on and when i saw it for the first time , i'm like e, a man who grew up in a museum with his mother making music, i thought, god, what a high culture, even people like this, they all listen. they don’t have opera there two pieces, sausages are heard, and then i realized that this form of that one is the same two pieces of sausage, that is, connoisseurs. yes, of course, now it’s like any, uh,

loser of a music school knows the moonlight sonata on the internet and knows how to play it, you know? yes, and he knows nothing more. and we are talking about maria gallas sergey, and here is your involvement, and why are you suddenly a young guy to the great virgin mary, i make music and none of the musicians can pass by this, because she influenced the entire history of music, in general, the person is amazing. i think she's the only one who played this a fateful role for great music now , after all, everything is happening. they even do a hologram concert. you can imagine a bunch of people gathering in the whole hall, all huge and applauding it there, as it appears alive. not just like that. i didn't know it's stunningly amazing and still is. here it affects. tell me how it happens. i just don't know when she lost her voice. yes, then she

still restored, i'll read the letter. darling maria last night marlene zitrich is one of your famous admirers just about and told you. she said that in american hospitals they constantly play your records, because they found that your voice is good for the sick, gives them vera calmness helps to recover. this is not surprising. we also understood this a long time ago. it is, of course, like this. i think it's still a little. uh, flattering of such strength, this is when the lie is 99%. and here everything is correct. that 's true, but i wouldn't say it's the voice you're recovering from, how can you not say that jason has the voice you're recovering from, the trumpet of jericho resurrect from the voice, and mary has a calla. you, as it were, open up everything in you, it opens up your soul, after all. let's listen to music criticism. yes, but why do you think you believe? what could be the pressure? well, the voice,

first of all, she has a lot of things. here we are now talking about what, specifically, about which yelling about which opera, this is a huge amount. yes, there are such women that it’s just, as we said, it’s scary, yes, when her letters are like that, really with such pressure oh woman. what is the norm, who is the priestess of the temple druids, yes, who are ready to kill children for the sake of men. yes, because of not for the sake of, but because of revenge or longing, which stabs with a knife. scorpio, for whose sake you think here, dasha medea , of course, yes. so i understood, and not from the plot of the timbre from the possibility of voice, because anyway it is such a gift from god if she sings in schubert, yes, it means this contributes, therefore, of course, it has a beneficial effect. it seems to me that in general her voice can be applied to all

life situations. yes, i think everyone. it seems to me that suffering is a great difference from in general, everything that i hear and see, look. well, in a feminine way, yes, here is your look and your sergey, and how could one exchange such a personality such a talent for not the first freshness, not the first youth jackie is absolutely selfish, by the way, there is nothing beautiful in her so for nothing with these wide- eyed, smoking three packs of cigarettes a day there. well, like this. well, such a cracker is already in our style, it was strong, yes. applying mary i don't think he changed mary at all. i think he read it. how magazine, as a magazine leafed through. oh, something is too much energy, and many men are afraid of sergei. here is such a love, everyone is afraid of not matching. yes, it's hard when you love like that.

here, yes fainting. here's to such a sacrifice. and also, as it were, a woman who has no children and who cannot spend her love on relatives on her mother. uh yes, uh, she has nothing on her son and man, whom she fell in love with 99% of the great opera singers, that is, a man. i was scared and men are afraid of them, and their personal lives do not add up, but we let's not name names now. well , in short, happy exceptions to the rule , the voice did not yet know that she was dating jackie uh-huh, i love you, body and soul, and now i want to decide. for you to feel, it was god who gave me a calling and to achieve completely in my difficult career, but the main thing he gave me you for which i never cease to thank heaven for you, who also went through hell and conquered the peaks. we were supposed to meet and get together forever. keep oh

i conjure you. keep forever our connection. i can't live without your love. i guess i'm too proud to admit it, and yet i know that you alone are destined, my breath, reason, ladies of dignity, and all my tenderness. no, this is not childishness, not childishness. this is a letter from a woman from a wounded and suffering lot who has gone through a lot and gives you a feeling as fresh and young as they are she has never experienced, not forgetting about it and always trying to be gentle with me the same as in these days when you created to change the queen of the world , my love, oh, how i need your love and tenderness, and i am yours and create me whatever you want. your soul mary well, of course, when you receive such a letter, you're scared, you have to match or like a man. you have to give more, and he could throw her at her feet. uh, gold diamonds, but he was not so generous, not so rich. yes , with this very soul, that it is impossible

to exist all the time at such a christening on such a high sound on a high note. it seems to me that the letter is very actorly composed, i think it took 7 minutes to express some feelings, there can’t be a surgeon, uh, 9 hours at work for surgeons, and to come home and not notice some kind of strangeness much you understand, and the look is already sharpened in a different way and the actress, but it can not be. uh, 8 hours rehearsal of the scene, and then go home and go to hear how the neighbor sings and does not wince from the rasp of her voice, so everything is always. it's all very well put together, everything is connected. probably, by the way, we are talking about their breakup, that he left kennedy , but there was also a prolongation of their history. by the way, many say that he was dying in her arms, allegedly. this is true, because i traveled with this money to redeem the outfits.

and in general, she is old, infirm, and now she has already been 300 years old is not needed. well, to say that he was very weak, but he was punished by life in an absolutely incredible way to lose his son to lose. it is the horror of losing a son and losing a daughter . we say what happened during his lifetime and that it was mary who consoled him? yes, when he stood under her windows and called her and begged her to let him into the tower apartment, of course, but she did not let him in, because she had already lost everything, she walked in a dressing gown without a voice without prospects get out for real. he deprived her of all her children. no, the man lost her voice, no, because she collected days, taught a new program and was going to the stage. yes, yes, it wasn’t such that she lost, it’s cruel to say that, but they will both pay. they will still pay for this. you'll see. the worst part is that he didn't tell me anything about his marriage. i think after i was with him for 9 years, he

should have told me that although i didn't know about everything from the newspapers for sure, he was just mad for this reason. i just expelled it from my soul, i have to work as soon as i can. i was terrified, as after the wedding. imagine he didn’t marry her, destroying her whole life, but he also destroyed it. what do you mean she did it of her own free will, she is a jackie. yes, with this she learned about his wedding from the newspaper that her assistant brought her in the morning, and there is evidence that she tore this newspaper to shreds and went to the sly one and trampled it all in a different way. yes, and at the same time, uh, so, uh, she just sent her some kind of mink stole to comfort utrisa. there's another letter from a friend, dear. elvira, i am now trying to finally understand what is happening. but it's like i've

been struck by a monstrous force. and i still can't even breathe. i am still destroyed. after so many years of work and sacrifice for a man, they don’t even know what world i’m in right now, that i’ll think too much about what to do, but in any case, write to me here, at least here at home i feel good now. well, yes, she became a recluse. she sat on endless antidepressant medications, yes, and drank all sorts of you know, she was losing everything at once voice of children career. well, it’s impossible what she was left with with the housekeepers, not a single sister of any relatives, but she hadn’t communicated with her mother since she was 30 at all, that is, she sent her some amount of ointment, because the endless demanded interest. the first husband also demanded interest income. everything was required of him. this is some kind of nightmare, and my mother still went to all sorts of programs for us and released a book. my daughter sailed marlene dietrich and published books

without a mother. my mother marlene diesel while alive they well, just as now we will not call the surname. yes whose children and parents go the stream went. absolutely terrible. just so that my sister i tried my best, and only received an insult as a reward. so to hell with all this , it's time for her to work not because of money, but in order to wake up and understand, real life is not only novels, tears and various pleasant moments. everyone would like to live without bothering. you probably too, but life is such that it is my mother. i did everything i could for her this year. in the end. she also has husband. if she didn't spend all her money on travel, maybe there would be more left to live on, remember like 4 years ago. she ordered me to give her 750 dollars, i didn't have a penny then, and i had to borrow it from you. you remember all this. so, i beg you, you don’t really listen, complaints and stories about how she suffers. she's uh,

sent me a horrible letter cursing me for her usual way of getting things done. uh by pants and blackmail she thinks she sired me to keep me her words are stuck in my throat. of course, i will try to do everything i can for her, but i will not let them go that far. i need to secure my future. i want my child. she really wanted a child and the second child was born. well, the easy ones did not open there. he died 3 days later. she took it very hard, very hard. that is, for the second time. she was already sure that she would leave the child in any way imagine the millions of spectators who splashed lightly and who bowed. yes, a saw in her a deity, but the truth is kissed, and as soon as the curtain closed, what was it like on the other side of life? what suffering and experiences? was she here, to summarize everything, well, at least e, well, i don’t know, a year

in my life is happy. this is such a harsh childhood, yes. then, and infinitely she must, and even aristotle, who came to her towards the end of her life, she forgave him. because he cried, but again, a common past. yes, one language, she understood it. she was sincere, she was very sincere, and she was like a child a little bit. it seems to me that there was an immediacy of feelings in her, which he generally believed, and he believed her, from this she succeeded on stage, because she had no gap between her and her heroines. it was such a phenomenon in general, even about it, but because ferrelli wrote and wrote a statement called. it 's just that not many people have it, so uh, maybe it turns out here she died like this wound 53 years old, yes,

53 years old. what kind of age is this, yes, she died in her sleep. well, in general, they go. and this is the loss of voice, you understand? this is not just a mechanical discussion. from what, what was it with her voice ? he was her instrument. this is her skeleton, that's what the voice of the voice donated. here she is as the little mermaid. it was definitely a terrible situation with the voice. in fact. this is the price of one evening in rimsky in 1957, when she was supposed to sing, and she came to the rehearsal with a cold and went into the cold dressing room in a draft. and that's it. there's a wheezing, i woke up. it's new year's eve period new year's day january 2 was play. someone was famous, says the tickets bought incandescence with everyone wants to hear you. i didn't give any land, not even insurance, and she decides such a courageous act on the one hand, on

the other hand, reckless, because she goes on stage she is injected into bundles adrenaline it's terrible. you can just lose it, and by the way, this was the key moment after which everything went already. not in a clear straight line, that is, it was not directly related to aristotle, because it is believed that she generally had some kind of muscle disease. and what about loose muscles, what is cute dystrophy, is this version often and that her voice has already disappeared once? yes, yes, which were restored and somehow you believe in this legend that it was such a blow, such a betrayal, yes, from the army, that she had betrayal from the audience that evening of the rome opera. that's where the rub was. tell me, i think it was tell, than even some kind of relationship with men, because it’s very no, it was much more tragic there, firstly. it means that she sang the first act and

decided that, well, yes, the performance should probably be canceled, because she says more or less, i sang, and then the middle of the whole center disappeared further. i will not pull a performance from me, but in the hall and the leadership of the country and some world celebrities. that is, everyone is waiting everyone was waiting for the audience. i just came to some i don't know, yes, well, even here, somewhere else, some word is needed for them, yes. they shouted and cursed. i don’t know, chairs broke, if anything, they just didn’t do it and had to leave through the back door, so that it’s just, well, roughly speaking, uh, there’s even in her she herself tells what she says. people stood in line to spit at her for canceling the performance, you know the letter after this letter to tell everything, i do not hold a grudge against journalists. they know me better. what cruelty sometimes requires their work , i do not hold a grudge against all these companies of young men and girls for several days, standing at the entrance to

the mariinsky hotel, but whistling an artist who sang badly, and a sick woman who tried to shout over insults, demanding loudly that she be allowed to walk her path to healing. i’m only angry with myself, because i didn’t know until now that the majority prefer art to craft, and sincerity is deceit and becoming hypocrisy in the morning, i opened my mouth from it , not a sound or a word came out, my voice disappeared, and the norm was announced the next evening, and that’s all tickets were sold to people before they ate, that they would come to listen to the most gall. replace me theater management refused had to sing me did. stimulant injection by introducing one of those drugs about which they say that he is able to resurrect the dead. i stepped onto the stage with the courage of despair heard itself and thought. oh my god. i sang casta diva and in the end i got angry at those who applauded me, because it was not my casta business, and i did not want applause. poor poor poor. what

cruel hotels the fact that she was afraid to go out and the public was on guard for the family, could be putting cruelty. well, what was it necessary to throw them these pitiful things from the balcony, and the money so that they dispersed for hostage hostage here but this still, the viewer is cruel. that's how he is imported, right? and now than time has changed. yes, they can just lift you to the skies about this, which yes is also all a success and, of course, this is called the effect of the second roller. the first time sounded then further, which plays further about obviously. worse. this is how it happens. thank you so much for coming , you can talk endlessly, but such persons from such personalities, well, as she herself said , it’s better to listen to me and i’ll be in all this yes she said that everything i wanted about myself. e, she sang her roles. i did a lot of recording. now it's not very good.

here it is restored. this is true, fortunately, thank you. it turns out that two heads of football and hockey refereeing, pavel kamantsev and alexionisov, are visiting. good night. good night, the former president of the khl is now the head of zenit, alexander ivanovich medvedev, how did you say that successful refereeing experience in the khl is not in demand in football? pavel can you say something about this? do you agree that unclaimed can not say first, we when we just started judging, we turned to our colleagues, so we have the experience, the one that we can use, for example, the awards

where we got it was our idea, but we understand that it exists. it’s just that my colleagues have , uh, playoffs, and it is possible to stimulate narrowing due to playoff matches. we just did this in a mini-full. we have higher stakes in the final stage in the russian cup, the stakes are higher and of course. when we talked with the referees, we said that your ability to earn money is, what if you take out the first part of this season you get there in the top of the rankings. here spring is your earnings there you will earn. i can not say that the refereeing management. it is some kind of unique self, which is very different. that's how we discussed the fact that different schedules uh-huh are different. uh. well, the rules are different after all in hockey. i am not an expert. well, it seems to me. in hockey, in basketball it's like two in terms of martial arts two different poles a-a. aleksey well, really about such an interpenetration. do you have what take football, if if paul says that they studied with you? ah, of course

there is, because in football, well, in my understanding. u know how they have them better. to be honest, the material base. yeah, it's understandable and we must always admit that football is the number one sport in the world. yes, let's say they had a good program, which we also saw with us, in my opinion, mentors are called yes, talents are mentors. we have this story. we also borrowed from colleagues who we are now also working on. this is a very simple thing but we have expanded a little on the specifics for ourselves, and we have an operating orbit, we make logistics for them in such a way that they come to cities in other and acting arbitrators themselves. the khl tells local guys to young, novice referees how to act in certain situations, both in a lecture and in practical classes. a very strong help for local colleagues and this and this are all current arbitrators, all top arbitrators. what methods were used before and what different things are now generally different science has now stepped forward, of course, undoubtedly. we already have analytics, as

such, which uses instant. well then there is mileage is another thing with this plus. we have. uh, we use the watch chest rhythms. we are in our third year now. we track the daily routine of how people perform physical training. well, it’s more about tracking professional growth, that is, everyone can learn the rules, but as you can see, we are now publishing negotiations , and this, it seems to me, was just revealed by refereeing, how what it consists of, what it is not making five or four key decisions in a match. this is constantly monitoring the game of negotiations so that it does not flare up, so that the players calm down, so that there is trust in your decisions, that's all. well, you are discussing something, explaining, if you are doing it, correctly convincingly, your game becomes easier, why do experienced referees of the game, as a rule, do not flare up, because they are good psychologists due to experience and help to solve it. that's it. our task is to teach them

to reveal this human potential. yeah, and already invest resources there, and not like that agulno just to give everyone a chance and try to grow everyone in the khl there is a fee of 300,000 rubles. for talking together. i knew you started these about it, yes. and why why is it impossible for a hockey player coach to talk about the work of the court? let's, let's go to the root. and what is the difference, let's say we are from football, because when seven seven eight sixty-seventh season , i, as a leader, when we came to one of the first meetings, it was still with us in the khl and then all sorts of russian colleagues were sent to the board of the federation, very important moment. understand, for our sport, not for the judges or for the sport, there was a story when i say that's all on the ship, and the judges are nearby in the boat and. well, no matter how close they are, they are not on the ship nearby, so the main task was the idea, and i believe that we have achieved that we are now sailing in the same ship

; no need, you can figure something out, fix something, do something, we understand that someone may not be able to restrain himself, so all the emotions after playing with you have to immediately and sometimes and the coaching staffs with them, when talking to the handles time passes by the expiration of time there in the morning. they understand that the person that he was talking about. he was wrong. yes, he understands this, but i explained, because, uh, the work of a commentator is evaluated by the work of a football player, and the work of a coach is evaluated by dismissal and dismissal. feeling there. it does not matter about the work of a referee in the khl, it is generally impossible to evaluate the work of a court by the refereeing department. if you talk to professional judges don't think everything is fine fine. they are so untouchable. liu-people withdraw money money, and very much. good to him there. what penalties are there? and refereeing penalties come from a one-year contract, if a player influenced, and oh, if the referee influenced the result of the match, he had earlier warnings from this year. we

warned, that is, we first warned that from this year there were no warnings, money would immediately flow from one and a half, there up to five to ten percent of the annual contract. even if hypothetically there, well, let's say, let's call the figure 2 million rubles. imagine that he has an annual contract of 2 million. you give him a fine of 3-5% per game. yes , respectively, well, even 5%, when 100,000 people do not receive this money. but i think it hurts a lot in my understanding. well, that is, there for one or two mistakes that led the head. and how much does it carry? well, now, it seems to have increased this year. yes , we now have the most difficult first year, when, well, the judges judge something in the region of 603-64 matches, they judge fines for talking about refereeing pavel in football. this is what will work or whatever was given. we have already chosen the other way, so i agree that there is an absolute logic in the khl, but i think that there is a peculiarity, and it lies in the fact that each club in the khl has its own voice and representative of its internal

corporate work. still, uh rfu is separated from the clubs. although, there are people on the executive committee in committees and so on, but still , refereeing is separate from lik and we have no influence, so the clubs will linger. a lot of people can't, but you can see that we have the biggest clubs. last time referees started talking less and we are no longer penalizing. and we went the other way, we decided to analyze the topic of refereeing. well , that is, everyone said that you were closed there. what are you black nothing is clear. what are you doing? we said, well, we 'll tell you, in general, everything that does not affect. e on the judging process. that is, if the release negotiations and mine there i don’t know, after three weeks they no longer affect the judge. he got a rating. he survived it, he judged the next match , the fans, everyone also calmed down. and it comes out like some kind of educational material about how it happened ok, you want to see how this referee is preparing

for the super bowl match, it's not a question from the moment of the station to the end of the match we will show it, accordingly, for my part, i see that now people have already begun to trust more. and well, if someone wants to express, he can express a fine, we have, well, a fine for negative statements not in terms of the quality of work, anyone can say that i didn’t like the quality, we will contact the troops, there we will consider the moment. we have unfounded criticism there, and, as it were, underestimating there a part of dignity and other things. we have fines, and the ftc works very well for us. we have a suspension of football subjects for more than six months, that is, it cannot be said that we do not protect referees, it is simply impossible to discuss it in the khl at all. yes, we can not criticize, going beyond some moral. if people feel, then that they have a certain support, they begin to work calmly, as soon as people start to twitch, like zero, well, as in any job, any manager, when he starts to worry, he will still do something not

so in sports, all the more so, look at how everything is very simple there is a rule adopted in the summer. well, we can have a long story there. we have a working group, then we send clubs to clubs to vote for this or that rule in the khl, and then we insert these rules only then and make them new and send them through the federation to the ministry of sports. that is, we ask the opinion of the clubs, how they want to see certain rules, that is, we offer them a menu, we do not. something recently last year from myself. that's how they will say yes, that's voted. this is how it will be. that's how they took everything under the visor, let's go eat football, as far as i understand, this is not so impossible at all. we have a single fact legislator, they develop rules and directively lower them. i can say that there is some truth in this, because football. the rules of the game are so complicated because of the interpretation of both the hand and the martial arts. uh, what if we start, uh, each federation contributes something? all

the same, there is european competition, in which i hope the referees and the clubs will return. uh probation sergey karasev because he makes a decision in seconds or in from beardless. it is unlikely that he will be able to live by the same rules in russia and in some critical situation not make a mistake in europe, or vice versa . i think more than any practically international competition is valued for hockey players both in terms of earnings and prestige and everything and so on and so forth, the russian championship has a position in the world's personnel markets and so on. another, therefore, we have, well, a system of subordination. just another european cup. the champions league is, well, the top competition. where everyone strives, therefore, naturally, those who form this competition, they form the rules of the game for us , they are brought to them in a different way. i think it simply cannot be alexey anisimov, who has been a leader for seven years. seventh seventh run ahead. i will be grateful. in the continental hockey league football

heads while officiating this time i don't even i'm even afraid to imagine how much i don't remember i don't remember everyone. why is this happening? well , here, what can be said with the khl, it began to be built earlier according to new corporate principles and came to a certain system that already works there, well, more stable. this happened to us, too, and the leaders are changing, but the compose of the department somehow doesn’t change anyone, and we’ll say it already. so, if we assume that i am conditionally leaving. i come to another person, what we believe that we have achieved the most important thing, we already have , in principle, the algorithms that have been developed, which are included in the regulations for digitalization. more somewhere the root elephant will not happen, that is , a person will not come who will say, and now we will do it there, everything is completely different. it's just that people don't quite understand and they think that uh in judging how uh? coaches

conditionally hired slutsky in goncharenko and he comes and the team. suddenly shoots up hmm in refereeing. well, our practice says that this does not change. and the feeling of all the fans that if the referee in football, i am wrong, he is always wrong in favor of someone, that is , the talk is only about what it is not an error among, but this is an error in favor of some team, that is, it is determined and says why this happens? what do you think? and this is a long road that has not yet begun today. it started from there from the back and so far. eh, that mentality won't change. it will continue, and in order to change it, you need to take certain steps, including, well , again, you can’t say that to pavel rfu and many leaders, as i see it, what is needed. this needs to be changed for people, it needs to be shown that this is not the case. he was wrong because because he wanted to help, supposedly. if

you take it, because he did not take a step to the left according to the method, a step to the right did not speak swara at the right moment, his side assistant did not tell him to look for it. here are the errors. and as soon as everyone starts looking for mistakes in this , everything will probably be different, but, so that they don’t think about him, he must have a good salary. and he must understand where he is going , you understand, he must understand that if he judges without errors, then the department will be part of him and the fans will discuss nice goals. now, what is the main story ? you just have to move away from the discussion refereeing, again. i say, how we try to do it, we try to do as much as possible so that it is just people. well , you can say, to some extent tired. well, that is, they didn’t think about what was not necessary. here you want, we have explained everything to you, we are not a black room. here's how it's received. here's how we work. here's what these referee looks like. this is how they discuss during the match. i think we have according to our metrics

now kuyan, due to these negotiations, r, which are published e, i think that he has one of the best in the rpl, because we do not have many players who are perceived positively as well as he and our task is just that create a positive name for the same, so that when it arises, here is some kind of situation of distrust of all trust resources. i have such a cool boyfriend. we believe him. he is his, we understand him, we know him, he made a mistake, he made a mistake, but we do not use it, we know him. let's talk about hockey. may i ask, please tell. please, how many years have you been commenting since the sixth year 16 years in 16 years, have you ever heard that some team won today after the skala game, because the judges helped us. for once i can say that the coach from and the players can smile sarcastically and say that yes , today about any sport, i say, not only, and now we are not our sports at all. no one will ever say that, that is, when people say, now they are there in this

or that sport, they helped us. here they lower others will come and say listen, we won today not because we played well, but because he helped us in the striped any commentator. you will be told that if he sees three removals in a row from one team. that fourth with a 95% probability the team will have a different, not the second moment , which you also perfectly understand that if there is an ending to the match and if it is even more so the playoffs, then well, you don’t need a judge there. well , as we say, you need to have your head torn off, so that there is a removal, nothing whistles at all. that's where the line is, look. i i'll tell you such a good thing, well, you fell. it is the same as the concept of gay management at hand, but we didn’t have it, probably for three or four years. now it is slowly returning, because the leaders asked us for such a story that, according to the principle, how many and if only let's and we actually sailed the overseas league in no way. we do not hide whiskey in one place, as they

say, there, when the head comes off. uh-huh . so we have a single line. this is a single line. then it goes badly and the teams all know it. and it's still more your subjective the score, of course, is a convenient expression for commentators and for the audience, when they gave three , well, now they will always give it like that, but if you look at the fine, maybe we don’t have two by 10 two by 12. you just need to take statistics, because the game is such a sport, if two equal teams play, approximately always in terms of skill and there will be four by four six by four eight by 10 yes, there are rarely moments when two equal teams, but one is outrageous today and they will have 2 x 10 and there are such cases, of course, but at the same time you yourself say that there is a concept of the feeling that it looks like three, then already, well, in simple terms. what is game management, we all understand that the cost of an error in the last 5 minutes with a score of 2-3 or 0.1 is different. and, of course, it's philosophy. it is grafted, of course, when the game starts and some kind of removal comes there. you gave it, no one will remember it, and you, even if you get into this

game, you understand, that is, you got in and gave it 50 to 50, as she jokes the network. okay you, yes, well everyone understands the beginning of the game. but if you give a removal that nets fifty in the last 5 minutes, then you lay down. on the ticket table let's call it a party card. do you have an explanation why in football they took var for so long and already when they accepted it, it just doesn't help the game. because, because football is a more conservative sport, because ah, unlike hockey. if we need to move forward, as paul said, we make a decision much faster. that is, we sit down, we have a philosophy. we say everything rules are written in favor of the attack, next year. we will also have a new rule in favor of

some of these, some even faster and more dynamic. and if pavel needs a task, he needs to do something in favor of the attack, there is something pavel cannot do, they have certain limits, maybe, and i heard that our leaders, maybe they wanted to lead you, but they could not lead there, for these, for these, for these reasons, the same thing as i told you before the broadcast that it’s a matter of time when their football orbiters will explain their microphone solution. yes, they will do it without options, it will already be here. yes, of course, yes, because there are no options, because people need to know everything here and now. that is, why am i going to the stage then? why are we coming to this if i have to? well, if i can sit by the tv and they will explain everything to me hmm but anyway, any gravitational sport should be watched live, no matter what it is, and the video assistant referee is really such a rather curious topic from the point of view that it seemed to everyone absolutely panacea that is, here, well, yes, the judge may make a mistake, but his colleague will sit,

who will have 18 monitors. he will see. this mistake will be corrected, but in fact it's not only in russia, it's just that at the world championships they saw so many completely inexplicable decisions of the judges who are sitting in front of the monitors. you can explain to us why. we all studied, just different times, please, from that moment. i think the impression of exams, the most vivid impression in life that a person has is when you prepared. we take exactly those situations when you are conditionally prepared and not ideal, but you taught to come to the exam, and you are experiencing this important situation for you. and this is the feeling of the brain of humanity, which drives you into a trap. you say yes, that's two and two, that's four. or maybe five. if this is adrenaline and so on for you, well, this is a property of the brain that starts to look for you arguments for this or that what happens when a judge comes, uh, to the monitor, firstly, there are human relationship. you want to support yourself.

eh, well, it seems that there is a normal situation like 50. i probably see the criteria in favor of this one moment, that is, a black and white situation. well , it seems to me that, well, we don’t have so many just not yet super-prepared inexperienced people. they make these mistakes. this is one of the natures of very experienced referees. who the fat is? it seems to me that they don’t have so many mistakes like that, they happen. but this is usually connected, well, with your understanding. that's the moment i understood everything, being also in a nervous situation much more interesting happens with us from the moment to improve, when already the chief arbiter comes to the monitor. uh-huh, and it would seem in the obvious for all situations leaves his decision in force. here it already looks for everyone. not really. they are understandable, and we are just delving into it, and i have an assumption that this is due precisely to the fact that the judges, since intellectual people begin to calculate in their heads, that the moment

i change my mind 50 to 50 is minus 0.5. anyway i leave the old ones, maybe they will continue to be supported, but there is a premium, there is a rating and so on, that is, they do not think about the game. they think how their work is evaluated unconditionally. we, when we speak in this pressure that is created around, no. it no longer only means when the club shows this pressure, that it will be in him to enjoy. maybe i'm just being nervous . that's just to fall into this trap and make the wrong decision, which is difficult to explain, when he will evaluate the same moment with a colleague. looking just there getting ready for the match on tv in the room on the bed. he will speak easily. only you are on this stress, you just have to, well, not many people have work associated with stress. they are experiencing this moment. they had it once in the eleventh grade, or at the university, and since then their lives have been going to some kind of knurled sequence, and they think that any decisions are made. well , it’s relatively easy for those who are engaged in some kind of project work, for whom constant d2 calls and so on, these people do not have

question. how can you make the wrong decisions quite recently there was a precedent in the league we will not discuss. i'll just go for it. ah, and the miner, maybe you haven’t heard the head coach of yaroslavsky, he didn’t put lokomotiv. yes, you know the game, yes, that is the story. yes, i did not put the game of the goalkeeper's son and mogu papa the scene could be against each other. play it would be history. he said it's not show business. hockey. this is a completely different story, and in the refereeing of the khl there is the concept of a war room. here is for me this military the rhetoric has always been incomprehensible. why why is it clear that you call it a club. that this is show business, some kind of win. well, why in hockey? that's exactly what uh, well, how would such a military vector be, this is a game. yes, you can’t imagine denisov everything ingenious is simple in general from the very beginning. she. e, when they looked, when they created it a long time ago, well, var-lum was called, yes, then it somehow happened, or we were called military slang a couple of times and since then it has been military. and

when she is already in the military, like at one time, there was even a meeting with the leader saying, well, there you will somehow rename it there, well, not the military there, situational and some other, that is, nowhere in the official documents . it is a video viewing room. well , imagine every time the room says video views. well, imagine how he says, here, and now the judge will go through the christmas tree to the military, if they say so, specially trained people, moreover , no one knows them if it's wet. yes of course the room, we always announcers introduce the arbitrators in the field and then introduce the arbiter in varsi- who help the military. well, indeed, the rules are right, the generals are sitting there who control the process. what is why? this is a fundamental difference between us in hockey and, firstly, we have not published for a long time the head of hockey clubs, he does not know who judges them. they have not been excited about this for a long time already. that is, they find out when people go out an hour before the game, this and that, not always, because, well, when they already go out or already a tv dice pops up who or already, well, you can see who judges these people,

independent they obey. and we have, according to the regulations, directly the chief arbitrator. no one should know them, because some pressure should be exerted on them. let people have to sit and calmly make decisions. this, of course, is the difference between hockey and football. and these are the people who work every match. there are five of them every day . well, shifts don't work. yes, and therefore they have no problem. and unlike football. uh, let's say when they make a decision on the request, the coach. and if earlier it wasn’t long, there they discussed with the judge, now that they will speed it all up, we will tell the guys. you don't need to talk to him. he just came. you have a solution. you said, he quickly left everyone announced there will be decisions to orbit the path of the barbarian . yeah, well, i just, uh, this activity seems to be reasonable to some extent why because it brings clarity clarity, but there are several nuances at the stadiums in russia there are no repetitions, because

as far as people will understand it, and to be honest, i don't quite understand and am sure. even for myself personally, i don’t fully understand the position of the ministry of internal affairs in this case. why ? because everyone now has gadgets, in principle, anyway. everyone watches replays, of course, why can’t they be shown on the monitor. well , probably, i think that some time will pass , they will analyze and also lead some. well introduction, because when will the judge pronounce his decisions. some of the people we already understand that they did not see at all what happened, how it will all look. well, quite strange. if the person has already looked to the phone, then, as a rule, they already described in the telegram channels what this solution and others are, that is, it will be interesting to see how the strapping will do it if they show it with a repeat, because the ban on repetitions is just a requirement, including regulatory bodies and uefab, because it affects safety there, an ambiguous moment is some kind of controversial how it looks. it is very interesting. it seems to me that this will be correct. if , again, we are talking about the fact that this is a safety issue, then replays are introduced in hockey. yes

and now on hockey can be seen. what happened, as i understand it, yes, but not all cities fall into this, but we ourselves came up with the initiative of this continental hockey league departments. that is, who wants to participate in the experiment, so that we show all the deletions and everything that the judges look at moscow military room. and length. we thought that the club of clubs would be less, but 12 clubs out of twenty-two says, we want to show it cool. it's great. let's watch the security guards paul says it's a public i’m not happy with security, because the cost of fines is high if foreign objects fly, beshi and pieces from rockets , i once flew in when a piece of a rocket, well, a piece of a small rocket, when i judged a tough one and there’s a bike nearby, well, about 200 km . this was such a good city. yes, if you digress, there is a small one. well, there was a piece of the rocket. it costs some money. according to

the regulations, we always have quite large ones. but look , paul has already said that the man who sits in the stadium. he must not be harmed. what's the difference, he enters the gadget and looks at the same thing. and now a simple picture moves quickly, a repetition of a complex solution is watched there for 5 minutes. and here they are, poor fellows, sitting there, then there is no internet, then something else, and here they sit and suffer, they don’t know how to entertain the director in ptsk, he doesn’t know which grandmother to show, how she sits, knocks with a ratchet there, but here all are on the scoreboard. and you can sit quietly discussing and understanding how this or that decision is made, and i will say more i have. i'm an optimist there plan, when will they show certain deletions, which are basically, well, of course, the court is mistaken. they don't have the right questions themselves, and the game fans will have fewer questions. they will speculate and understand, because we are already in hockey. uh, the tv picture is on the bench where the coaches stand and all the replays are repeated and they turn their heads at the hockey players. they see. why

should a fan be separated? he came to see , he came to find a business to see. yes, you need to fulfill the essence of energy. he needs to scream. that's a good story right, but if he sees that there was a deletion, but it was we understand and we understand that we will get problems when i am in this deletion. no, we understand this, but we will now look at the experiment for a month for pilaf and then we will again come to the clubs and ask the guys, after all, what do you want, but in our rules it is clearly stated that, if one of the players starts, that is, if in football this will show on the scoreboard or run, listen, here is the monitor, here we have clearly spelled out 2 minutes at once. that is, it is not one way road. two way road, players. must understand that yes, judging by the same. well, the same people. they are wrong. you need to mind your own business, the head coach of the cariesarder, says that when i go second, i know perfectly well how it will be judged there. and what is there to expect? correctly

, i understand that the football players and hockey players of judge yes come under the same pressure in st. petersburg. in st. petersburg, yes, and in moscow, any big club. uh is under pressure. but it's like a given, which i think is absolutely stupid to deny. this is connected with the media and which accompanies the club, which can exert pressure if zenit, spartak, cska , lokomotiv dynamo well, krasnodar rostov have competent services that work. well, you are in any city. i do not think that to come to rostov and after georgievich. we can leave somehow. so uh without nervous shocks hmm i don't think it has something to do with zenith zenith actually refers to refereeing rather rarely. well, isn't it strange? no i can't say that it's not weird. well, their objectivity is stronger than many clubs, they have a lead. i think if there was a situation such that they would not be there plus two points or minus two

points, the situation would change, no matter how significantly. i can’t say that they helped the zenith in some match there or something else , they took all their points there, if we can watch the last matches with spartak they have there, though there were some questions about refereeing, but they are connected with key decisions, so this is a conditionally defined myth that zenith has some exclusive relationship. i have to him or the judges have. uh, everyone in their subcortex can’t get away from this because of the unwillingness to make an inexplicable decision against a big club , this is exactly what we do, so that the decisions are still made the right ones, because a priori you yourself understand that making a decision is a wrong mistake to make in for a small club. well, how unpleasant it will be. the deuce is all negative consequences, bonuses and so on are understandable, but against a big club. it's also a plus

a week to the head river and everything else after roman borisovich went down with socks, it became easier to referee in st. petersburg plays does not play in the majority, but not easier. and you know, both easier and not easier, firstly, he gains experience. i'm talking about staff now. yes, you can see how when he was just starting, how he behaved on the bench, how now and then completely two different people, what was in the beginning now. well, it's plain to see. well, it's like an experience. and then, uh, line of conduct. she is his. he doesn’t run around the shop there and doesn’t shout, he doesn’t get indignant. there, in rare cases, he simply asks to explain this or that decision, but after talking with the guys. they say that the limit is correct. and even sometimes, maybe even joke with them. there , a fan ran out from them in kazan, when

you remember, peter played in kazan, they lost, we will run away a fan. in my opinion, roman borisovich is also the main one. he says it's six. he says must be removed. well, that is, such a good know good working relationship no with this and we have, unlike football. they have 4-5 clubs there, and everyone understands that this pool will play. uh, first place we have a sufficient number of clubs, which if we take it now, if you take the table this year, yes, that is, we have it in the east. so it's just incomprehensible that any of the six clubs has never had such a thing, siberia has never been in the first place. well, i don’t know. if you don’t want to compare it with football, i don’t know how to offend siberia. well something good average average is here on the table rostov confidently comes in first place and, moreover, they are clapped in turn by all the leaders who come to him. well, yes, probably, so rostov yes, the game is not with those, well, everything is extras with the players, but here, uh, you have u every year the number of applicants, it increases. and now it's

there 10-12. we have already said that well, for me, again, such militaristic rhetoric about the war room is strange. there is another phrase that brings football to the brink of the game. this is a lie detector. correctly i understand that all this is atavism. and this is what we will never return to. well, never say never , you understand how it is that for some reason we fixate a little bit on the wrong, we have a problem. eh, it exists in football. uh, the case of the seagull that has been brought to court is negotiating. there are guilty and so on, so to say that we will never have this problem. well i think it would be a hypocritical match. yes, match-fixing will come and refereeing and so on. young because of problems with rates. well, no matter how we stick it out, because this is the negative side of our life. well, to say that i absolutely believe that we

will not have these problems, but now she is caught. well, it's not mine, it's deportation due to the game this year we had another one. or rather, last year. here in the fall one meter was excluded splash. there were even two or three. we are constantly doing this disciplinary code. uh, i don't know, i was coined and ethical for the studio accepted. we are doing this work and in this case, as if the polygraph is like the main problem there, that we are doing something else for fun, it will not be his. the phenomenon remains to be checked anyway . there will be no polygraph. well, for now, at least i'm so. why didn't you want to be tough? see? we have a different approach, how similar it is, i will tell you, as a leader, how i see it. i, if you give a contract to a person, then you trust him. don’t give him a contract then, i reason like that, because the built system in hockey is made in such a way that it

goes on, his total control is checked by the military room, which cuts moments on him, then we look at all this, if an inspector is present at the match, the inspector checks him after these moments , the director of the refereeing department will write him something and more plus. if it's something like that, let's say, god forbid, it's resonant and i'll check it out. that is, he has such total control and such a number of cameras. we have our own google video system, unlike football and take it and do it cut and understand the battle, where he made a decision not so let's just say elementary but it will be necessary now such a suicidal judge to take, well, just even think about it and we have no problems with this we do not say hilts of clubs. uh, we were killed, they had one question. why was he wrong? it's, well, it seems to me that in people it undermines the trust somewhere. definitely, i understand this, pavel, why does he say this? it's not his desire to come, polygraph as a leader? you did not come, he said everything from

tomorrow. everything on the polygraph is not. and him probably more likely. well, they have a system. we have something different, we even have judges banned social networks. they don't even have instagram, and everyone was grateful to me when we banned instagram so we could have more free time. they don’t have instagram we are in pilaf when we collect pilaf, and we say, don’t read, uh , soviet newspapers, there aren’t any before lunch, don’t read any appetite, so here our podcast is called football or hockey and hockey football. today. we have united in a t-shirt. why in a t-shirt hockey? hmm and football is not hockey just out of the number of people involved football is a cheap sport that everyone does. it seems to me that this is the most important difference between him. therefore, this popularity is here, well, the most lying on the surface. alexey why hockey football? i agree with pavel about the fact that they have a simpler sport, but, in a word, the mentality is beautiful pavel

kamantsev bosses officiated hockey in our country. thank you very much for your time.