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good decent citizens. fine. vadim thank you for the conversation. thank you very much. this was a must- read podcast. i am aglaya na batnikova, director , writer, host of a podcast. today we discussed tiffany's breakfast. this is the famous romance of the romanian bonnet with vadim the elemental. letters, today i am visiting the wife of georgy ivanovich burkov tatiana and the daughter of georgy ivanovich maria , who with such trepidation with such tenderness with such reverence with such respect does not allow anyone to forget the beautiful dad of a worthy person. i don't know better of the best actor, you can't even
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imagine how glad i am to see you. we saw you there, dear 40 years ago, yes, horror on the set of cruel romance. i remember such a beautiful young woman who came up to me with tears in her eyes and said, i'm afraid there are such actors and such a beauty around. don't be afraid, you're not afraid of anything, thank you. and you know what was amazing, and georgy ivanovich was an extraordinary storyteller , extraordinary. well, they all had such an experience behind them, both nikita mikhalkov and andrei myagkov, the deceased, and they all the time gathered and georgy ivanovich or one of them told stories. they all laughed so much and didn’t want to go into this cell so much, and i really wanted to warm these ears and that’s not how they drove all the time, because i should be in character. i have to be demanding all the time. and i was so interested in what georgy ivanovich was telling, and i was right there under the run, that’s all, i’ll hear enough of us to go. yes, like everything, yes, they chased me all the time and
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didn’t want to make an impression too to georgy ivanovich at all. and then our neighbor came from the army, did not come, escaped and hanged himself in the kingdom of heaven. i came up and said. and our neighbor hanged himself for some reason. you can imagine such a fool, that's what i wanted. so maybe they were looking for impressions so that they would not tell me about some good one. come to us. you, too, will listen and participate. there were good times , there were good times. remember the filming is very, very good artists around the time is good and absolutely amazing guzeeva of course. oh well, okay, now it's not about me. doesn't matter girls. tell me please. so, when vasya’s rateli, both little tanya, who you had 17 years old, will give georgievich the difference, no, 13, how old were you when you left,
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when i was gone, 44, that is, by today’s standards, this is a young woman who she was ready to get married for the first time and the parents of the child didn’t even imagine how it was possible for her husband to disappear, something like that, in general, the man couldn’t imagine anything else. but then let's digress into the past look when you met. you were 18 years old. yes? i lied that i was 21. that's how i added everyone subtracts. they i said that one year at 15, well, 40 kg, and the height is a meter yes, 56, somewhere a meter kilogram of this girls eyes on a stick. so who saw who first? yes, but i kind of saw it, yes, in the theater at the blackboard , the schedule, but roughly speaking, i didn’t
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see it right away, but they showed all the young actors were sitting and then yours came. well, they laughed. he was so funny it was impossible. it's just that these little glasses are like this red sweater, but there is no such thing, he had a purple plaid jacket, mom, and looked at this schedule. such is the whole. well, that is, no. don't don't don't don't don't don't care that i don't care for you trying anyway we feel that this is my man. well, yes, you are dying. yes, when it happened to you, when it happened between me , i can’t say, right away, it wasn’t there right away no , it wasn’t right away right away, it wasn’t right away. well, it was different. for some reason i'm all laughing. and for some reason, i left with him. this is some kind of feeling i can’t, what happened? maybe i'll explain now, i can't be you , that's all. there was a man, by the way, he was straight man-man until the last days. someone even came up with this legend about his ugly. i don’t
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know for me, he is absolutely naked sex with these lips with these olive eyes, tall and slender. and now for me you are just two sexy people who could not be together, but now, if you watch today yes, it means that he saw you first and said, come with me tan, well, he didn’t tell him so with his eyes . what happened? and we went together. well we 've been walking for two months despite the fact that we were there, and he was there for money from my mother. he begged for some money. he took me to prague. that's where i said on my birthday, when i said that i was 21. and then, we went to the wto. there, too, there were some wine and everything, and still they walked by the hand. and then one unexpected day it happened that's what we're talking about now. he turned out to be so simple in general, and belmondo you already knew then that there is such an actor, how
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everything was pasted over with me, and he told you, let's go to me, i'll show you how i live no, but that by chance they came and was with us another actor was terrified of him, where he rented a room somewhere on the bauman wreck next to the room, when drunk it's very clear who he is i was banned as a girl from a good family. yes, it's pure clean work. i have been in the theater since i was 15 years old. well, i don’t know that a vicious 19-year-old girl has come, yes, how do you want to say? well, as a matter of fact, she came, but not one with me was the secretarial organization of the theater, and she does me, of course, which fled from this room, when we entered his room, it was clean, there was even kefir books, a very funny room. and this is what we entered, but we were already a little. he drank the wto there, he celebrated, there he received some kind of extras for his ruble 50, and we went in there and our secretary immediately faded away and he didn’t like
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the neighborhood, he was afraid that there would be some kind of scandal there would be something and a drunk person came out. here, who rented a room to him there, and he means to me, he says, let's get out of here quickly now some kind of scandal, and i would like something left. and why until the morning, right? and it happened so instantly here about here, well, it 's anyone listen to goosebumps, well, there were no signs at all. tell me, please, and you, too, are a girl, tanya, who has not spent a single night. i'm not in my girl's room was not not coming home, poor parents come in the morning. he said, marry me. i said yes, and then he said he loved it. uh, some milk. with cocoa, or something, they used to sell some straight before, and i went and bought milk. and then i called my grandmother and she said that her grandmother was with you. she did not resist the holy line, lying. yes
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, but what to do? as i explain, i'm getting married day. yes, but the parents were not. after all, no one is yours or his. tell us about your first meeting with his mother. well, why wasn't she? yes, yes, it was very it was very terribly nightmarish and funny. it's so funny to me now. no , it’s funny now, then i don’t think that for a nineteen-year-old child it’s, well, in the throat. i was so in love that somehow my mother seemed not so terrible to me, but i seemed absolutely terrible. not that is. you are dating. you meet at the pen. they are my pigtails. well, such knotted ones were magpies, yes, and it’s funny to say, but my mother sent her son to moscow , the artist of the great, who went through the whole province there and said that his mother loved him , adored him, in general it’s deadly. yes, yes, and she, at least he's there, uh, getting married. well on someone, well i don't know. well, yes, well, i don’t know,
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well, yes, vertinskaya, yes, yes, the beauty, of course, is so portly, as she herself was so all and suddenly she sees it. here she, probably, saw, in general, horror. i guess i wasn't that horrified, but she saw the nightmare. and we can walk like that, she hugged him and said something to him, and i went ahead. i understood, i didn’t even just say hello, and then, when we had already arrived home, and she said that either i or she, that is, and i have a letter. can i apply? well, it was, but it was written much later, but this is his yes, oh, love and connection with his mother. by the way, he didn’t deny it, he just called it so strongly that i was a mother’s son, right? my dear, mommy, you know that my mother’s boundless love for you, who gave birth, raised me and just to a person worthy of respect and admiration , decency, kindness and a lot of other wonderful qualities. know that love has always lived for you and will live in me until the end of my days i am proud and i will always be proud of you.
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i want to be worthy of you in my life and love you and miss you. i constantly think about you and you know , i would never have become an actor, if it weren’t for you, they praise me just for what you put into my soul your wrinkles your gray hair your planted heart. here is my school. here are my universities, everything from word to word. i could repeat it to dad, because you are one for me, you are my home, you are in my land, you are my homeland, you are my soul. lord, what a gentle, what a loving what a wonderful son, then he became the same wonderful father to a crazy wonderful husband. and when this happened , the truce with your mother-in-law was not soon, but she arrived, well, she looked at her granddaughter. she immediately left, and i scribbled these diapers myself night diapers. oh well, i must say that all
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the difficult relationships with her were, but man, she was complicated, but very good, and for good reason he loved so much, and he found. here are some points. he loved her loved me and we never had sharp corners with her. i don’t understand such love for my son, when did georgy ivanovich say that you are one whole body and he loves you endlessly. she had to accept. she didn't realize she was causing him so much pain. it's wilder that he's all over them. yes, he said eat right away, mom. i love you. i don't like it. i do not want to lose, neither you nor her, she will remain. these were the words when she left, now to perm, but then she seems to me, she is still inside. she was just such a person, she can not show that she resigned herself to something there. but if you jump over all this like this and say that she was dying in my arms after seven years,
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she was gone. uh, georgy ivanovich and she was there all the time. but this, perhaps , will say something, she was dying, right with such kindness in her eyes with kindness, she left. masha how old were you when you were left without a father, 24, well, tell me how lucky you were with daddy, with such a wonderful lucky. i think that just a sock was lucky that i even had to be kicked out of my house. some of the years were difficult. i am a home child absolutely home not spoiled child. that's what i even understand, now that's how they didn't have time at all. it's like i didn't have it, well, every evening after the performance , he always found it. here i am small, and he played, tickled me. we in some came up with some fairy tales drew me then yes, i am insanely tired, as it were, i will definitely read it now. do you have this
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letter with a picture? therefore, you will show okay , masha, now mom and dad disperse at the subway in different directions every morning, even the sun is surprised and surprised. his eyes widen. dad goes to the sovremennik theater and mom goes to the stanislavsky theater, but when they get together in the evening she misses you, but that was the time when he was born, the case worked in the modern yes, in life, nothing more is needed. he loved such happiness. and how much you? yes i am there little, this is the same letter that i read, only it was written by georgy ivanovichal's hand. i am in perm, after this letter, you made him an offer of the hand of the heart. i somehow already, when i started to think something, and you can see it in love. i immediately became very fond of him, and for me somehow it was something more than dad. it's something
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big and my favorite. and so, when already e a little older. i mean, i said that in the elevator, and he was so shy, really everything is insane, and here i am said that well, if it's eight years, there 's seven, how many i'll marry you said, and now i remember how he reacted. so well, mashenka decided to ask, well, that's it, she dumped time on her mother. no, well, of course, what to say, but for the car. i think the first love of a daughter is always with girls. this is her father, of course, with the departure of her father, she generally has a life. as if, i’m even very worried, she completely lost the platform, she lost some kind of walking from under her feet say, uh, zhorik was born, but under georgy ivanovich or unfortunately not yes, as dad dreamed that
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i would have a child. well, and so that, uh, my mother asked me to start me with my husband. that's how he likes it all. maybe you knew him, of course. and what do you not like? is it just such a father's jealousy or were there objective reasons? well, he was always right. he has a reason , he already sees, at once a person saw everything at once and, but who listens to us parents. no, of course you understand, stupidity, what kind of parents? here and uh, zhorik was born, dad did not become in the nineties, and zhorik 1992 in the same hospital where place hmm what place was born with her husband? tanya, you're not married, are you? no, it didn't come out that way. officially, there is no such bar. i have a single husband. it seems to me that he is still
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nearby. this is a display of a letter. my name is larisa guzeeva. my guest is georgy ivanovich burkov's wife tatyana and georgy ivanovich's daughter maria a letter to you. tanyurochka, my little one, i kiss you in the black gypsy eyes. now i know that we found each other something from the miracle we have with you difficult love, then real. but what happiness to live with this, you understand that until the last breath. you have something to live for, because you have such memories, you understand, for the sake of this it made sense to be born. i just remember that there was a very difficult period, when you tell me, it’s not just that he says so. yes, hard love is difficult, and i received such letters, when
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masha was born when we lived in a hostel, that is, i was left alone with her, and zhora left the line without me first. well, it was hard to argue. no one helped me parents in the corners no one one on one with a small child nothing at all. i just had hungry days. and these are the letters that he wrote to me from the tour. i even understood everything. i started to get angry that he didn’t send any money there, that i want to eat here. just elementary. and there were such yes and i take this letter. and now i even remember how i read, i read, i read. and it seems like my girl wants to eat already. i'm waiting for him, when he arrives, it's funny, were you jealous of him
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? well, like all young people in the eyes beholder. everyone has seen ugly ones. this one saw that he was perfect, that he was endless, beautiful. yes, i'm everything. it seemed to me that all the women around here. right now, the crowd will follow him. they went that i was mikhail's pig later, when he became famous, it's like i was told some kind of cunning how you were generally cunning. yes, nikola didn’t have a ruble in the yard, so there was nothing. there was jealousy. yes, i remember, he even has a scratch on my cheek. one well, as i say, the owner is young. here he is, he's mine my husband, therefore, i must know everything, every minute he came somewhere. he told me this went on for a long time, because he gave. i very quickly understand that it’s impossible to do this, and i quickly realized it. and now the scratch that entered was already high, he was filming there and was so proud of it that this is the only thing now, you probably
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turn away. yes, when i look, but i look with pleasure. now jealous. yes, that's so serious, he never showed views. but when he died, i was able to read these diaries, and when i compiled the book, i found everything there. here this one terrible record. i sobbed so. i cried so much and thought, what a bastard i am, how could i behave like that, and he writes the details, like him, that he was going through some moment when he came to the performance there. something there, how many years after his death were you able to read? well, i have read this. well, right away, probably right away. i immediately wondered what that was all and that's why i'm already somewhere in the ninety-first second. i already have it all. i began to collect all these notes. these were tiny records separately, and then this book. just in case, saved. yes, not even half is never so
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difficult to work with. i just remember how one actress is quite famous. she just approached me. she gave someone a creative evening, hugged me and said, tanka food, you can’t even imagine how much i envy you that for so many years he was your husband. he is like this. i was so proud too, although i don’t know what is pleasant, but georgy ivanovich never during or after and there is no bad fame, he was a worthy person, and you are a chaste shy and the fact that you don’t have these spots that you do not come illegitimate actions that they come do not call. women don’t tell you that he had a family somewhere in parallel, you understand? no, here is the most worthy in everything. and how he left such a memory of himself says, bright memory. here is a blessed memory. yes, what
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should you look for? well, on the other hand , there was a kiss, of course, there would have been a husband, it seems, and you would have been attached by now. well, yes , i know that i will die, as everyone will not live forever, not literally, not figuratively, and the most the sad thing is that in old age you will understand how you really need to live, but there is no longer an opportunity to replay life again. no need to set up. we live among people, we are born like everyone else, but why are we artists? why should we be responsible for everyone? i am an artist. i burned myself by vocation for the sake of people feeling covered with strong moss, you can’t break through it. maybe one artist, he is alive, but he is a suicide bomber. have pity on him. understand it. he goes to his death. for you. for everyone. everyone has learned to speak, holy words are not easily
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protected by an artist. he believes that he is believed, he loves there are a lot of them pretending to be, but the artist is alive for now, take care. his life will go with him and you. everything is correct, everything is absolutely make sure of course. well, he came across when but such things were. here, when he didn’t drink about what he drank, he yes drank, but when he comes to you. uh, your theater partner is threatening you with his finger. this is how you look. jora we're going on tour. you are zhora, who was not such a kind of light alcoholic at all, because he was coming up, he couldn’t stand this, yes, yes, he did it, then he turned to me and said buy a bottle. well, it hurts, and who
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were these artists who weren’t worried, who were they themselves, yes, who could . could they threaten this with a finger? i know this is tanya , you understand, zhorik what kind of zhorik is he to you, will you forgive? first, how much zhorik read here. you first get smart at once the development of your soul, because here is zhorik whose finger is this here. they banned it , and then you know how something like this will become attached to an actor. you won’t wash off later, you won’t get rid of it, yes, you don’t need to shoot, because as about me, one artist’s girlfriend, when she was asked questions, is it true that, well, they drink more guze there. well, listen, we are friends, what i will tell you about her. well, see for yourself, well , it's not scary to take it off. well, i love her any, you know? that's what i'm at least one filming someone will say, at least one day the shooting failed. i’ve been late for a minute
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, sometime, but once i’ve already become attached. that's something you'll never wash off, you know? well, he is, of course, offended by him, who could not, you understand? here is it, for example, despite how much he drank. i think that nikita sergeevich mikhalkov drank no more and no smaller, but he would have the appearance and become and the origin of some kind of sergeyevich yes, who would you ever dare, and then it’s obvious that you understand everything, what a liposhlev would be such a simple one of his kind, they didn’t accept him for that, but about the resentment of an actor can't people really understand my acting theme, not even the theme, but rather the method, both, if my love of the performance, anna drinks all the time and that's it. time is active. this does not mean that i decided to make the viewer laugh and that's it. no a thousand times. no, i'm talking about the struggle for humanity dignity, a talent of a person. no matter how deformed, no matter how corrupted he
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may be, if i overtook myself with psychological complexity or ambiguity? i would be read, but i don't want to be thin to read. i don’t want to designate a living person with primitive theatrical badges, we live and only live , in no case should we squeeze a living person into the image he played brilliantly. this first work in the theater was a river, while he did not have a higher acting education. and he acted in films played in the theater nugget about it he says he didn’t have an acting school when they taught him, it was those encyclopedic , as it were, education. it's just that he wrote to me there, what is there to say? uh, all sorts of essays, while i studied at another school. now don't be afraid to talk. he, uh, in general , the person was very educated, and not around. they are an educated person. they would not gather in a circle. i say it again, nikita sergeevich, petrenko, they all
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adored him, but they didn’t adore him because she was good at telling jokes. well, you're funny, you know, about it it would be about the clown, by the way, i i remembered a story when you were young and very poor, but there was already a rumor in moscow, that you are so funny talented, and it was a pity there was nothing. tell me how you were invited to the company of parsley, it's funny for food. yes, yes, yes we once in some company of artists. e, we were sitting there, the artists were just familiar and in the process he began to tell something, well, about the dog and everyone calmed down and it was so interesting. here, i tell it, everyone began to laugh, simply. well, and then already tipsy. they made me too tell something. and i only had a swearing tower. how to tell a fable at school is generally indecent. well, since i had a very decent view and not everyone laughed like that. well, it’s just that they began to transfer us, as if from the hands of some of their
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acquaintances they were already asking for calls. pasha said that they were visiting them. pasha said. you will come, we are going to be good there, yes, there will be a company there, let’s go , we don’t have money, we’ll devour him, so, yes, it happened several times, but then we became friends with everyone it was so funny. they fed us . there was a difficult period. masha and whose character do you have more than mom's or dad's? here, tell this story, how you, standing up for dad, attacked a nurse. oh, this is my pastal story, but i tell it among my own, of course. he will tell you sharply, of course, but he ended up lying in the myasnikovsky institute of cardiology. they sent him there and immediately put him in uh , he ended up in the intensive care unit, in short, and we just went crazy, because my father is in intensive care, what is it, and we could only come to we were allowed to see him by the doctors. well , somewhere it was already closing, all the same, there and downstairs at
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the checkpoint i was sitting. this is some one in a red wig like this, well, as usual, here are the women. not young and said that you came moved late. but if you don’t manage it in 5 minutes, then i won’t let you go again. well, we somehow yes, yes, yes, yes, we did not expect that she, here we are, yes, yes, yes, that she will do it, and he came out to us. i just bit my cheeks so bloody. it's simple, because he came out so green all over with these wires. and that's where the ear was heard. what in general it was no one. he was so we were just medicine for him, and suddenly it flies. eh, aunt some kind of aunt. why are doctors silent? how is it yelling? you and yells precisely father? i saw right. here she is from him to you you will no longer see your relatives. i'm just quoting verbatim. dad almost cried. he says, wait a what a why its become already. mom,
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come on, i'll take everything. come on, we really are there, that's all, but i saw, he just walked right here, i think, does he give all this one is on strings, so it’s bright with me right here, as if some kind of curtain was some kind of anger of some kind of terrible anger. absolutely. i think now it will take a lot. i already somehow and there are huge these spans. this staircase is huge. well, the building is. so my mother collected it, which means that ours will do. and we just got here. here's the flight of stairs. i don't remember myself. i grabbed her dressing gown pressed against the wall, well , there's some kind of scum, because if he was just pyotr sergeevich what you know from the fifteenth motor depot. why would she need was it to figure it out? and she, probably, all her life tells her wife came. and what is an artist? i said five minutes and that's it and you never
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see us again, i said. well, how can you rise against the backdrop of the great, show your disgusting power, you know, i hate it more than just two girls. i asked, i say, yes, she simply couldn’t take me away, because my aunt still ran upstairs, there the doctors are crazy, i need her for her, so there mom me. well, it was. well, is that all at the car, well, everything shakes with me, i cry and then only they, like a show, and they just need a daughter. if these were obloids, yes, burkov's daughter made a scandal. oh, girls, and there is no one to intercede, right? they also made me apologize, the dumplings did not apologize. here, well, in the doctor's office she said, i broke down. yes, well, there was a reason, that's on dad. the main thing is that it did not affect. it doesn't. they are still vengeful, and i asked
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her to talk there, i say, call immediately. well, how can he die now, well, not protected, how to tell everyone what she wrote. therefore, when he left, he knew that he was leaving, who needed him. i was at his hospital the night before. he escorted me out so that i could go home after the operation for a day, and he, well, so that i could go home for a shower there, well, something like a rest. i didn’t go, and suddenly he started talking to me in a strange way , began to say things that, in general, he could not say for anything. i suddenly realized that something is wrong, something is not necessary, and i say already, calm down. what is great health? yes, stop forgetting, all forgiveness asked for forgiveness. yes, well, there for some very important things, even. well, it means
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that they were important for him, so he lived with this pain. and here he is, and as if i had already come home, i think something is wrong. well, something is wrong, and i rushed straight early in the morning and that's it. understood, it means to look at me. all these in the elevator are strange, well, the actress larisa, you know how it happens? we all feel at once something is wrong looks not like these, how strange it is, greeted. all i went to the room. everything is already there. well, it wasn't over yet. he ended up in the intensive care unit of cardiology and in dentistry in cardiology. well, there by the evening tanya was gone. what do you regret most of all. well, in general, we parted a little, and i went to the shooting all the time, yes, he is with me, and now i regret that we still parted, where was it once why he went to sovremennik for a season it was difficult in
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this one or why are we doing this for some reason? why do you need this? now, of course, do not return. i'm so sorry about you, but it's true that some lost days of months are true, and you offended him. yes, a terrible character, all these some kind of complexes, but it's all at home in general. well, i didn't take part in the school. call to say my daughter is enrolling in her first year. she acted herself , no one called, no one said anything. but you ask for forgiveness from dad for something.
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for not obeying, but in the main thing, in the main thing, she believed, well, look at something here, well, you see , she believed, it’s good to obey, it’s bad, because if a girl always obeys her mother, father, grandmother girl, then she will obey the boss's husband with a neighbor and so on, so ah smart parents, they note at home that yes, nerves are shaking, but the fact that you don’t listen to the etsakh is good. you heard him. look, she saved the letters of the note. you understood this love , you accepted it and gave it yourself . well, he's right here, i don't know where. he is truly a mother. i can't really cry. when i see him, he even fits. like this. quiet, it will do, now, just then
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the extra will start to move - you can really imagine. which happiness, this is for you zhora his georgy ivanovich , he sent him, girls. you can say that you are absolutely happy women. no, i can say that i am happy, because the lord is here for me. i don’t know how it somehow happened that this feeling of love. yes, i received it. here, perhaps, this is met by zhora, this feeling has just appeared, but it is still this all-encompassing feeling of love. but today you feel that he is with you. now that he is protecting you. yes, you didn't stop. i mean, we were, of course, for a while. just here in this life. that's generally no. that is, it's not even some kind of stress. and it’s as if we were all just cut into pieces , cut into pieces. there is so much more i want to remember and read and talk about. i think that you will still come, girls, yes, and we will talk, it's true

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