the final chapter of broken love

this is a podcast of football not hockey. my name is denis kazansky today our guest is valery the best help. you see, this is what happens. you once said, and this phrase very strongly hooked the football team. in

moscow, this someone's vanity is good, flavored with money, and the club in the region is a social project. and now something has changed, well, lead a team from moscow and lead a team. there, with the periphery of not only siberia, there and so on. these are two big differences in terms of what you when you are in moscow work from all sides supports work somewhere on the periphery. there, almost everyone is against you, except for the one who is in this club, and it seems to me that those who work. on the periphery in the province and so on. they deserve more respect, as specialists, by the way, i'm amazed that in hockey it completely changed in soviet times, too, moscow teams were taxiing about the periphery, as if the situation has changed dramatically now. yes, for some reason it happened, you

are talking about the fact that in the province everything is against you, which means everyone who is everyone, if this is really a social project, and this is an attempt. well, to attract people to the stadium, so that they are distracted from their everyday life and enjoy the game. i, when i say that this is a social project. i just meant that i understand it this way, because really e football is a business, football. this is the politics of football - this is also social phenomena, but we are just taking an example of a social phenomenon, tomsk is an absolutely football city of a team, in the second league it collected 12 to 13-15.000 at its stadium spectators, when they came to them there dynamo kiev time came, there is no torpedo moskovsky. besides football, there is not a single professional team in tomsk, and people have been brought up for several generations that football in tomsk is more than football. this will start up such

an expression that is attributed to our first person. really not so sick families there dynastic disease. mom, or rather, dad ’s son, there’s a grandson, and so on and so on , the generation that’s in europe somehow in the same turkey i know there if the child is a grandfather rooted with a voice-over no one in the family can root against and so on. that's how they live in tomsk, yes, football, so when there are teams, the city somehow lives, as soon as the team, well, difficulties arise. this problem is very difficult to solve, and i understand that it is not there. what although the siberian mountains, there were always two springboards, where the national teams of the union in ski jumping trained, held training camps there were times. now the situation has changed. but the t-shirt, by the way, chronic problems perish in tomsk and when you worked both before and after constantly need. and so, how do you yourself think that well, let's,

maybe even do it on a wider scale. this concerns not only tomsk. although it was there that letters were sent to the president with a request to keep the team a professional team or a club. he can behave in such a way that it is understandable that he is forced to behave this way. well, are you okay with swords annoying? tomsk region, far away, not a comfortable region there are six oil and gas enterprises producing industries and so on seriously works, but there is no money for football enough, as if in soviet times there was a football team. there, conditionally in chita , a serious level, then beyond the urals, football began to slowly die. it is clear that hockey is closer. yes? there are hockey teams not quite in tomsk, but there are also such beginnings there. the mountains of satellites of tomsk are a closed city. there is a hockey club there. but basically in tomsk there is none, so for me this one, well

, annoyances that, as it were, do not heal all over the world and you have seen clubs that make money. and we have, well, so, firstly, frequency secondly, it is extremely difficult to imagine that sport in general is a business. it's hard for me to say, since i don't have an answer to your question denis, because i kind of suffer from the fact that i was in russia in two clubs, tom and balticalingrad, and we suffered in tomy. the same picture in mine when i was there, the same thing happened in kaliningrad when i didn’t receive a command for half a year. i had money. yes , the budget has no right to spend money on the development of professional football, but there are no other investors. no, other leverage. again i repeat, i have no answer. how is this issue resolved and why does the same thing happen, and what remains for us to do?

well, probably to discuss this topic on a more serious level, it is clear that the rfu cannot, the premier league does not solve this issue. this is the right of investors who have the opportunity to support teams, but obviously i may not be entirely right, but i will give an example of china in order to either be exempt from taxes or they are reduced to a far level when it is profitable for investors to invest in football and there there was a sharp jump from financial investments, maybe go this way.

hmm, it’s hard for me to judge the example of china, it says that there was such a possibility and it was decided you don’t have an answer, why and there’s no answer, what to do to change the situation, we recently talked with vadim evseev, who assure that no matter what russia is a football country. do you have a feeling that he is right? well, somehow on this topic. i think this is a question that does not have a clear answer. in the sense that in russia loves football, there are no doubts, and the world cup, which was held on the side, as if once again demonstrated, yes, that we love football and that's it with all our hearts, but so that we have the opportunity. playing football all over the country is an issue that we talk about all the time, but it stands still. why is it considered that there is

less growth of good talented football players in our country? it seems to me that at all times russia has been rich in football talent in this sense. and uh. suddenly, for some reason, this rodnichok begins dry up. it seems to me that the number one problem is that prestige, or rather the coach, works with children and young men. this profession has not become prestigious. rather, to be prestigious in soviet times. this is the academic education he received training, he studied historical culture there for 4 years. or there, at the university of legal education with a specialization in coach , he received a basic serious serious education for 4 years when he came to work with children. he already knew, because in each course there were work with young children different ages and so on football management. well the sports committee. the ussr has always been very clear in its approach to working with a trainer

who works with children, continuing education courses, qualifications, seminars, and so on. it was very prestigious to work and such tournaments were held, which were, well, the national championship. there is the cup of youth, the cup of hope, and so on and so forth, and in the past, players really came to this job who played later, got an education, and plus they constantly grew with their team. the competition was the highest and in order to become a coach to work here machines, well, professional teams, of course, and this competition, as it were. she gave outstanding coaches who are already working on the station teams there with the professional team. it seems to me that this level has somewhat decreased due to the fact that we are now. academic education costs nothing. those who finish school. they must obtain licenses from the football academy of the rfu a. there is no academic

education. there, without a higher sports education, you can get this license. only passing well courses that do not last several series per year 3 5-7 days and then internships. it seems to me that only a person who works for a long time or gets an academic education and works with children can become a coach of the highest level. i premiered on football with denis kazansky

tomorrow at the first i myself played for a long time. well, a long time ago. and i don't play. i am training that the maracanese have gone so high. it's just not about the moroccan national team, but because the coach worked there for a week without a year. he worked there for a month and a half. what is it all about says, this is really some kind of story, and it is piecemeal, that is, we should look at it as an exception or or there is something in it. it's a lot to know when the coach comes to the team. and he does not break anything, but preserves what is, and obviously he explains that the main thing is that the main characters are not me, but you, in this championship you must play simply at your level. there's not from the sky, the players fell. they they play. they they just played like? well , it might be rude to talk about it, but i, in short, the world cup with his camera said

that friends you have done a great job. you are on this holiday. and now here you are enjoying football. yes, it needs to be done. this is this, this is this, and so you should have fun and obviously so it was built in about the same way, when they began to give 100% in every game, and when they were there, well, nadya died there, but fought this speaks of that the coach just inspired them. he created conditions for him so that they would get from it, as well as pleasure in football. now it can still be fun. what am i? i'm telling you, i'm the national championship. i enjoy true sincere i watch every single premier league match every match on the tour everyone on the tour watch for work. which coach of ours are you interested in watching now? i am simply delighted with the work. i will explain why a very difficult situation arose for him. he joined the team. and when they are there at the very beginning. yes

, when all the foreigners were there, they started to scare everyone and that's it. then suddenly the foreigners leave and at some point about the team sank, then i look now , who is the rostov team today made up of young guys who are rented by someone, suddenly got in, why is it unclear? yes , rostov comes from lokomotiv and plays football there as it is, then there is a lot, as if there is a position where, as if i can’t say everything in a row, how the wind is for me. yes, there are issues there. and how karpin closes them, how he moved from one structure to another, how he began to force goalkeepers to start from the gate. it would seem a completely different situation. there he knows how to give, one and the other third. and they are not afraid of anyone. i suspect that it will not be easy for him now. here

, nevertheless, they will find it, because the team it seems to me that he is in the collection a little bit, as if not the drop that was, so i look at the work, i look with pleasure. i really like the wings. it's just that no matter who they stay with, whoever leaves them, the structure of the game remains, the players understand what is required of them. well, not only that, but they still lack the skill to do what it is obvious what they are preparing for. here in these difficult conditions, the team does not lose its own, as it were, my self. here, too, it is a pleasure to watch. we have another very bright coach. and we followed him, well, really such a very curious career, how it developed

not only in russia but also in england in holland, i mean for slutsky and his return to rubin, which is rapidly falling and for viktorovich remains without work. do you have an explanation for what happened. why is the man who won the championship with cska, who was really the brightest as a coach of our country, in general, relations with slutsky are very competent signs, he knows how to work, there are no questions about his professional qualities, there are no questions at all. do you remember when he came under what conditions and the team played? here is the first stage of the very first ruby if we are talking about then they lost, then the players began to leave, and most importantly, how the key players who occupied them instead of them left , it was assumed that the players would replace them there and suddenly

this did not happen. yes, this transition. that's about what, what we managed to cope with karpin, just lenya did not succeed in any game that i watched, they did not lose in a game. but something was missing. ahead was not enough, in the middle was not enough there. well, creativity, or something, these are mistakes , i myself found myself in such a situation when we flew out. i didn’t have a way to get out of this then, well, yes, we lost, there were 13 people at that moment. more on the team leaving new ones came. and so we began to lose confidence. i told you that a lot depends on the coach at some point. i started looking for what was wrong. why doesn't it work? why do we play one game, we don’t lose in the game, we don’t score, we

miss some moments. this feeling, e uncertainty is transmitted to the players. quite, perhaps, this is a psychological moment when lenya suddenly, uh, began to look for problems in refereeing problems. it’s hard for me to say it in any other way, but i, of course, worried about him and, frankly, suffered with him, no matter how there would be one piece of bread in cska so that there wouldn’t be and suddenly this is not i know about psychology obvious hmm for him wondering, yes, how by the way will it end and which club is heading for anti-cheat? i'm sure it will be very soon. i don't know. i'm sure i've already received an invitation. the podcast is called football not hockey hockey in your very bright and rich biography somehow i was brought up on that hockey when we shone we won the olympic games of the world championship and europe in a row without even closing our eyes. i

saw it for the first time. what are the reds of the world championship in moscow in the seventy-third year, and uh for me. uh, i thought that all the time, so if i didn't play football, i would probably play hockey. although i almost never skate there. well, that's all, well, two different sports. i didn't think about it until we ended up in football embroidered two groups would say football and hockey then there was uh-huh 33 football coaches and 10 hockey coach. and we made friends there and with these andrey from there, zenith was looking for st. petersburg, and plays with peter sparrow. we he gave us his skates so that we could play in the yard there you are something yes, yes, yes the generation that is older than me, they played football and hockey at the same time. yes, in winter and summer they had such a division, as it were, that

football is a more intellectual game than hockey is very simple. it's me talking, they say me, well, there's a hockey rink over there. 5 x 5 and erotic cska are running with their eyes closed, knowing that if they accept conditionally fetisov or registrars, well, on the left heel, then the first paz will definitely pass diagonally there to the right somewhere and there is already an attacking flank, it should already be like , i say this conditionally. well, reasoning, and then, when i started, how to watch hockey, i really understand, there are a lot of things that larionov is now instilling. i look for the lower yes, well, i look for some, too, i have a lot of free time. i see there what he played when he played in cska, he came to the nhl

and became a professor there. or whatever , yes, because i counted how many times they did it, which means it's bad. well, i see that our players are shining there. yes, i look with envy, and where are ours? you have already talked about this footballers, at this level, no, and therefore hockey is very close to me. this is my intellect. we are equal, it still depends a lot on who plays hockey, what kind of hockey he plays. how to put the role of the coach, the coach is also in hockey. it seems to me even more significant than in football, because there you need to manage operational thinking. there

should be here's an instant, and this year is your anniversary. this cameroonians congratulated you already happened. we do not congratulate you in advance. and tell you 80 you see, who still says, i'm ready to head to any club. give me an offer to consider. are you ready for the stereotype that has been developed in the minds of employers, obviously depends on the fact that up to 70 years the coach has the right, as it were, and after 70 it is already the end. it's already dementia. there no longer knows that i absolutely disagree with this. yes, there are some physiological changes. i don't know, yes, well, that's what concerns the analytical moment. somehow well, i don’t know, maybe it ’s only subjective. i feel about myself . that’s how i feel about the importance of the coach’s work in the analytical warehouse.

it is good to analyze the situation of the game and the position in the team there is a climate or atmosphere. if the analysis is like this well, logical, or something, it’s normal there. let it work after 60 after 73. but to conduct a workout. well, actually, in a working coach, the easiest thing to do is to train easier than anything. no, when i said, i answered the questions of the students of the higher school of coaches, which is important for the successful work of a coach. there are four most important factors for me there. yes there the first factor is to be able to convince the employer he is referring. where are you and how way you want to solve, well, the tasks that are in front of you. how to solve it is the second such important aspect to create a team of like-minded people. from the first his staff to his

assistants. this is how it happened in history that i didn’t come somewhere. i came alone and from this one they gave me who to help me. i had to inspire them to explain to prove it, and they must convey, as if i had no feedback from the players for a long time. and they already have, because they are in this team, they grew up there. well so it was abroad and so it was in tomsk, and through my assistants, communication with the players, feedback quickly comes to me, and when i convinced the assistants that we are working in this direction. i allow them, as it were, to contradict themselves there . we argue sometimes in static moments when choosing a composition, such moments are my task to inspire to convince, in the end they ordered, yes. the third factor in the relationship with the investigation of the mass media with the fans without this, well, there’s simply no way for the coach to achieve something. therefore, here’s the answer. i’m not ready for that

sense that you need to be convincing not in front of you in front of those. who suddenly came up with me olga yuryevna smorotskaya once i was talking with my general director there with stepan, there was somehow we were talking. they asked her for players that i would like lokomotiv by the way, i had later, well, in a conversation she says. so how does he handle the ball? 20 ago it was less. i was locomotive working. strange. it's great that you take all the stereotypes that you came to us and gave us time. thank you very much. thank you. it's very easy for me to be with you and just really nice. thank you