those, let's say, forms of relaxation that were before, they may no longer be relevant. well, it must be said that other people who were born will also be affected. in the twenties, for example, in may, in the twenties in november , there is a little bit, a different situation. there, too, everything will not be easy, but everyone has the same story, the same plot, the pressure that will be exerted on you. it appears to be of benefit to you. if you resist, if you think it's unfair and you should fight somehow. saturn will make such a hard gesture that, uh, won't let you turn around so easily. if you love your job, if you know that the person next to you is dear to you, if the business you started is important, just calmly do

it, don’t sue. saturn does not like fuss. and, of course, we will see a lot in the changes in the world in nature of course, what i said at the very beginning, but i think that when a person has knowledge, when he is informed, everything happens very peacefully, because you begin to be friendly this change, and they thank you for your understanding. and now let's talk about the next very interesting story, i would call it very positive. this is a rare conjunction of planets that will take place on april 12, but will operate some time before 12 and much later until 12 is a conjunction of planets that allows people. suddenly start looking for a form of agreement. we all now have many conflicts, many misunderstandings, both in the world and in private

life. so, when march comes mid- march, we can see how suddenly people will look for opportunities to reach an agreement at any level in any situation. there may even be changes in legal issues , such forms will be sought. uh, well, jurisprudence, let's say in any format. this is again in the particular and in the global, which, as a matter of fact, it will make the situation more loyal , more contract capable. and, of course, those who were born around april 4 will feel it the most. but i want to say that this is a phenomenal phenomenal time. if you need to resolve any issues. a you do not know how to do it, there is always a person who will help you. the main thing is that you do not refuse it, because the situations that will arise, and are not resolved, through someone. they are solved by creating

alliances, partnerships, mutual understanding of some kind of mutually beneficial understanding. again , there will be such amazing things. like, for example, you wanted to organize a business, but you have two directions. they seemed incompatible to you. and now they will be compatible ; moreover, they will be in demand. this is very important point. this is a new moment that allows you to distribute the rules of the game between people in a different way. and i believe that this time is the middle of march. this will not only happen in mid-march. this will give integers. the whole tendency to find an opportunity to find a common language, moreover, i want to say that at this time one of the planets that participates in this is associated with vehicles. i do not rule out that this is a change in matters of vehicles. maybe something new something new knowledge. uh, it's coming something new in the form, submission of knowledge. yes, it's

not quite yet. the topic of education is not really, but the search for a new language to convey information. he will still be therefore, to everyone who watches us. i would like to recommend waiting for this time not to try. solve your issues peacefully and try to find such possible options so that your partner is comfortable and you , moreover, all the relationships that were before. well, let's say so easy. they will outgrow, literally. here in the unions the signing is formalized, the papers at this time are signing some really alliances when you operate in this planet alliance. i will be very seriously approved. and i think that this time is acceptable for women for many, especially for those who were born somewhere around april 4th and october 4th. it will be. that's just very connected. well, the formation of some kind of legal responsibility. for maybe a business relationship. and maybe

personal, so this is the time when the partnership becomes the most important and most able to benefit you and from now on . it will be possible to solve many questions, so just a flag in hand might be for some, such as those born around 4th july to 4th january. this may be a less comfortable situation. there will need to be compromises. because it will be difficult not to take into account the opinion of someone here. you probably just have to think about another person and somewhere you can step over yourself otherwise go to the trick, and this planet sometimes creates a tricky situation. she likes to camouflage one under the other. she knows how to mimic, but only for you to try to find you played someone to understand what is happening, so here are all forms of trying

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continue to get acquainted with the interesting knowledge that i am trying to convey to you. and today we are talking about astrological march and will continue to develop. it's pluto's entry in aquarius, what is it for those who have not heard such words at all and feel that they look like abusive in fact. i think it will be interesting to know that pluto , the planet that controls the entire financial context in the world of semitones, controls the possibility of nuclear reactions. don't confuse it with something scary. this is what gives rise to powerful

energy, powerful opportunities, when a huge number of people suddenly, uh, understand the world differently , and this is the transition. he, of course, in itself may not be very comfortable. but about what is talking. we are moving into the new era, we are not going to try, because pluto will return later, but people will be offered other energies, other financial models, other relationships, other technical possibilities that will simply go beyond our understanding of other relationships. in space , this will be a very interesting time, but for those who feel a little unbalanced . it may seem quite complicated and yes of course in times like these. maybe the situation is changing very seriously, in general on earth in natural sense in the technical sense, caution in all formats related to technology.

here, the extreme is necessary moreover, here, and at this time hmm, there are a lot of questions related to flying on airplanes, in general with altitude with some strange circumstances in matters of space and time, all this will be very relevant and, probably, i would recommend. here somewhere, since the twentieth numbers of march. and, probably, almost until the end of april, risky things should be postponed, especially those related to flights. with some known to you. and disturbing things, suddenly you are skydiving, you know that everything in the air will be different now, therefore, of course, you should be more careful and moreover, since the most important planet associated with finance changes its location in general, then, of course, we will see many metamorphoses in this regard, and all those movements that will

be made in the financial sense, when people are in a hurry to do something in time, because suddenly the markets began to boil, and so on. be careful, because this planet is included in the zone associated with the most unpredictable events and those forms of financial patterns that existed in your relationship with money money itself . yes, maybe even the people who dealt with the main global financial issues will also undergo changes with them, therefore, at the moment when the restructuring. peace, as i say, is my favorite phrase when furniture is changed on the stage. no need to try to sing, there is an aria because the questions will not let you be touched by the sofa. it's funny but really. please let the planet come in and turn around. you can't stop her, but you will be able to adapt, and therefore all questions related to the topic how friendly you are, if you have friends, how

valuable it is, by the way, will become a very important factor, so appreciate your friends. and you know that if something difficult happens to them, it's not because they're bad. it's just that sometimes life is hard for them, and that's about those who will experience the most serious changes. i would like to say. this will most of all affect those who were born. well , somewhere around the nineteenth twenty- first of january. by the way, those who were born on 18-19 january, even here on the seventeenth, they have already felt for themselves, the whole spectrum of changes is such a reset, such an upgrade, which, of course, requires courage, but also understanding. first of all, of course, it will have to do with your body. again, sometimes internal processes are restarted. it's not a question, just a disease. this is a question of when your

body function wants to change the mode of operation, and this needs to be understood. therefore , be careful with this, be more careful with this. pluto has prepared everything in order to organize a new life, but he has no time to deal with your psychological state. and you are on your own, so please understand that your personal transformation of your views in your relationship with fear with anxiety. this should be for you. and you must understand that things are happening that really want you to rebuild your relationship to life, to yourself, to others, to work, and very many of those whom i have just listed. i will repeat once again. this is the area of ​​the eighteenth twenty-first of january. a lot of people can be dissatisfied with their work, a lot of people can just suddenly leave their job for some strange reason. but when

a place is vacated, it is never empty, of course, this is so that you can do something even more interesting and very often many people. i talk to many people , i see how it happens. that's it, this is an internal state, inconvenience, discomfort and not a vision of the future. this is very common at this time. but those who show confidence at this time? in that your skills are your opportunities in your life. it's your choice , they'll be fine, but still often observed such things. and when a person takes risks, he knows that it is dangerous, but he starts doing something. this applies in particular to financial matters of business matters. this is very important, so please don't take risks, please don't do anything you're not sure about. we

will talk very soon in the next programs about what will happen next, and then there is a solar eclipse. and this is quite interesting, so there comes a period of preparation, but for a situation that is hidden for you. you don't see it, but because you don't see it. you start to worry that something is out there in the dark its not knowing anything. so, at this time, it is dangerous to take any fundamental and obvious actions , especially in relation to any investments, any dangerous steps in business, because you do not know how the financial components will be reorganized, and this will happen more than once and the very first one is some kind of economic reforms or something like that. they may not be relevant, so please wait, don't make mistakes and yes. and if those who are born, here are those the very numbers listed in january, they experience, as it were, an internal transmutation. i would say, but those who were born in the twentieth

. july, but again since the eighteenth twenty-first there the situation is somewhat different. it's not like when you choose, what do you do? this is not when you realize that you are changing, but this is when the world around you changes, the world of your loved ones , the world that is connected with issues important to you with things, but it changes with such a somewhat aggressive flavor. again , my personal experience. i watched this the planet becomes more frightening to create some scenes so that you start mondrazing. and then she says, yes, yes, you are mine, i will master you now, yes, but you don’t need to do this. you just understand that some kind of pressure may be exerted on you, and the pressure is exerted in order to dislodge you a little from your life cell, because it has become irrelevant; moreover, here is some kind of aggressive environment on the part of people,

even your partners both personally and business partners. she can be very uncomfortable, so these things that going on is changing the geometry of your relationship. especially in business, so please be careful and understand, now it's not a question of construction, now it's a question of destruction and the entry of new rules into life , master them. take your time to get to know them. and most importantly. take care of yourself. this is very important, of course, uh, the story will touch those who were born, well, about there on the nineteenth twenty-first of april. and the nineteenth twenty-first of october. these are the people who will experience the most. this transition is now very many about it say, but transition. it is also a physical quantity. just changing matter time space your relationship with it. and if you

are optimistic, then this is just a magical time when you can draw something out of this hmm for yourself to create in your head ? yes, because it will be the way you imagined it, but if you can’t tear yourself away from anxiety, then, of course, the world around you will be disturbing and now it is very important to switch to some format related to the fact that you are not anxious, while we're talking about hands, or rather about the fingers, and more precisely, and the tips of the fingers, by which you can recognize a person, look very accurately. we will take the most three simple options. the first option is the so-called conical nail joint. it’s like such a rounded conical you see it now, i can have a long nail in the picture here. but you see how it narrows, this fingertip here. and most, for example,

the fingers on the hand look that way. what does it mean? it means that you are dealing with a person who instantly he perceives everything, he almost has sensory qualities, especially if these fingers are very thin. if you see such conical fingers in front of you, and they are also thin, then this is a very subtle mental organization. be careful with these people. they almost magically read the space and psychologically it is very difficult for them. these are really people who are subject to very serious such fluctuations in fortune, because they are not familiar with their talents, and they are really talented, but what is happening? why are these people perceive it so easily everything is because energy, we perceive it with a finger, and you often see it, when we allow it, and at a distance a person feels something yes , with his fingertips, because we are a sensor that communicates with the world in such a

way. and these people, of course, feel. this subtle world is easier for energy to come here. well, literally. now i’ll draw it here so that you can understand that energy comes here very quickly, as if it doesn’t pass the border, as if it doesn’t pass some kind of test. i don’t know, but we instantly such people make decisions very quickly. they are very impressionable emotionally. they are good in the creative process. they are good in the intuitive process, but let’s say, if they need to think and evaluate something, calculate how to behave in a practical way, i can’t say that this is their strong feature on the contrary. you are a little careless in practical matters, as a rule. these people are sometimes not very good at counting money. they can instantly spend something, we are not talking now about who is good, who is bad, we are talking about qualities, which are visible on the hands, but further after all, we

will consider more subtle things. and we will see, the characteristics are completely different. but , when we consider these characteristics, we will understand how this person acts. and these people, of course, are people of quick decision of quick actions of intuitive actions, and they are good psychologists. you cannot fool them. they will feel you instantly, no matter what you say, but in fact, what you yourself are also quite fast and they can charm you with themselves, because such a degree sincerity such interestingness such openness. well, it is, of course, always very nice when you communicate with such a person. but if, nevertheless, we consider the following group of people, and these are people who seem to have spade-shaped ones, not even spade-shaped square ones, let's say square ones like the end of the fingers, these are people who are more practical so that they need to touch the situation. they love

tactility, they love to calculate, they love to understand, what is the use, and profitability is people more prone to business issues to questions of rational life. if you try to tell them some wonderful things there and try, and throw information to them that they should feel, they will say no, wait. let's first look at your resumes, that is, these people need to present arguments for some other of your emotional outbursts, they may not react, but they also feel everything perfectly and understand, maybe they are not so thin. as you would like or maybe vice versa. you yourself are the carriers of just such a fingertip. then you realizing that you have the same person who is able to speak the same language. you can understand how you are constructive, you can implement something, there may be some kind of mutual action. or maybe you are in the role of a personnel officer and select a person who should be more

, say, systemic, and more so consistent, then, of course, these are just these fingers where? practicality is the main thing, quality and the third format of people are also somewhat of such extreme-minded people. here i would call them people with spatulate tips fingers, that is, they seem to expand at the very end. in communication these people are complex, imagine that energy comes and goes here. well, such a terminal, where she asks, so take your time for a second. come on, let's count everything. i don't really trust you, and it's true. these people should test your strength for responsibility on the fact that they can rely on you. you already know everything about this person. he tires you, that's his slowness decision making. well let him do his conclusions. and what is happening here, that is,

when a person draws conclusions, your energy came to him, he checked it, let it be slowly. let meticulously. let him do it right. he is pedantic. he pushes you a little, maybe he's not very generous, but that's the way he's made. he is not greedy. it's just the way it exists. this is how he interacts with the world. he is so easy and he understands the world in that way. but when did you let yourself in? he really does not want to release this energy back somewhere. if here here we are with a conical finger it is very easy to go here and there we go. yes, we easily meet people easily, we part. well, at least, well, they were emotional about it. well, they forgot that, in this case with a spade-shaped fingertip , this will not work, because this person remembers, he remembered everything, what you were like, he remembered how you did something together. it is difficult for him to abandon the

stereotype that he has already immersed in himself, therefore, of course, with these people, but you should be more careful in the sense that if you have tamed them, if you have won this trust, then you respect him. and if you're trying to gain trust in such a of a person, then be patient, because if you decide to take such an accountant, he will not count everything to the point until one. he won't leave the situation so easily. well, of course, you need to understand that we have many other indicators that will also somewhat refract all this, but still you know that people with such an extended fingertip are people who find it difficult to get your simple information that you need to sort everything out, with which you need to tinker, with which you need to be not fast, but also patient, then you find a common language.

dear friends, and i am sharing my experience and knowledge with you so that you can more easily maneuver on the waves of turbulence, if it exists, of course, and live in safety, and i, of course, will not be indifferent to your response and, in fact, to you can leave your questions on the channel one website. well, maybe some comments and the most interesting questions. i'm on them. of course i will answer and frequently asked of course well, now we are temporarily parting with you. it was a witty podcast and i'm svetlana dear. hello with you, the schrödinger code podcast, i'm its presenter grigory tarasevich, editor-in-chief of a popular scientific magazine with the same name schrödinger's cat is generally the same

to people. this is such a thought experiment associated with complex quantum physics, in short - this is an accessible metaphor. simple metal is a very complex science and our podcast is just about how he sees the complex in the simple and the simple in the complex, and today we will talk about tv shows. and together with me svetlana karlash is a psychologist and someone else, but who i will say later and we will talk about complex things through a fairly simple understandable serial container. you watched this series, yes, and you can manova, the container series is declared as an acute social drama, eh, but in fact , uh, there are a lot of such uh borderline psychological issues, but in social ones too, uh, and i i think that it is quite provocative, not only from the point of view of the topic

of surrogate motherhood, but from the point of view of broader issues of worldview, a couple of words and the plot of the series, someone has not watched, although everyone recommend. yes, no spoilers, no spoilers girl. sasha, 28 years old, a surrogate mother bears a child and then gives birth to him by order of some. rich people are very rich. well , further twisting rich people in difficult relationships the rich also cry. ah, the totalitarian mother. this is the heroine's young man, the heroine's daughter. well, and so on this movement as much as 2 seasons. maybe even the third one will be back, after all the series. it’s generally today that it’s here , does it seem to you that such a form of journalism is quite possible, and it seems to me that this is hmm in addition, there are some other mirrors of those issues that arise in society and in this mirror they are presented in such a more grotex version, yes, that is, all uh,

storylines, all the characters are exaggerated and pointed, and some things, of course, cut my ear and eyes because they are excessively protruding. yes, it seems that , apart from this phenomenon , there are no other movements in the human psyche of this or that hero, but still, yes, our topic concerns surrogate motherhood. and maybe we will push a little from the series let's move on to it. yes, in general, what is this problem with hostile material. this is probably a problem and with inequality someone bears, for whom it is and it seems to me a lot about freedom and not freedom about control about order and vice versa, about rebellion. well, about the generational conflict, because not every relationship between fathers and children is problematic everywhere. you are talking now, first of all, about social phenomena. yes, but they are born from scientific and technological progress, which

goes far beyond what we are used to seeing. and more recently, test-tube babies, in in principle, caused such a wave of hype. yes , now this is not a problem, and many people do this by compulsory medical insurance, but surrogate motherhood, by the way, is prohibited in many countries. here, in some it is allowed, we are allowed. and yet, if you imagine it as a mass phenomenon, it can change quite a lot, and the social picture, yes, and the psychological one , too, hint at some plot of the maid's stories. yes, yes, this topic was brought up and the maid's story. this is just a dystopia, which is straightforward. on this topic, ah, and it's so creepy, actually, actually deed, in principle, hmm science. m-m opens new horizons, but a man is not a very healthy mental being, a master of his a and e, in this sense we are able, of course, to give monstrous forms. if uh someone yes, there

will have access, but to the power of uh in deciding, because or otherwise. and we can we as humanity. and we can make a completely monstrous scenario out of uh, any idea uh, so they are not without fears about this. e meaning. yes, just like uh, these fears do not mean putting an end to science on progress and on some new technologies that radically change our perception. well, in general, the phenomenon of surrogate motherhood. it's not just someone reproduced the child, he discovers. a lot of different topics, well, for example, the relationship of genes and the environment, what is more important genes or with editors a person is brought up? and there is no single answer grandchildren. yes, there is a lot of data. this is wonderful. you know there on psychogenetics. well, there is, there, increased

aggressiveness in humans. he will leave her, where to kill people or become an athlete. as far as the fact that the mother was some kind of good, bad, will be passed on to her child. you understand that the truth is in the middle. yes, you are voicing, two polar radical points of view, of course, neither one nor the other. neither the environment nor genetics in its purest form. and we are talking about some a set of environmental genetic factors that can lie like bones in the lord god in any order, and in this sense , of course, this is an interesting question, but it concerns not only surrogates, mothers, and even e is not so much only adopted children. after all, when you and i start a child, we give birth to chigi, he will inherit the genes. eh, what's going to get from grandma? great-grandmothers from which branch from which line? we don't really know either. although of course, here they believe. higher and calculate it is probably more faith that an adopted child with such genes, the environment,

will still have a decisive influence and there will be a person in a good family. yes, maybe he will not become a world champion in running. uh, but if a family with some important ethical standards, then these standards will reproduce and yes no, uh with the same set of e genetic inclinations. yes. eh, maybe a person. uh, different fate uh, with different social. well , for example, if we return to the series and look at how yes played or did not play the genetics of the heroes of the series. now, if you remember one of the heroes, for example, right? well, for example, sasha is the main character, the daughter of a very authoritarian mother of a teacher. yes, she herself is satisfied with the tough sasha ugu uh, and her authoritarianism uh, no, she is not devoid of authoritarianism, this means that she was genetically transmitted to her or her mother socially brought up like that, nobody knows, in fact, in science there is no clear answer to this until the end. well, it's very difficult

to explore in a good way, you have to take one egg of your gemini from birth to separate them. at the same time, they should be brought up in families with different social cultures, and then after 20-30 years they were there, but it was always not completely clear. well, for example, in the middle of the 20th century. uh, wonderful and but not completely wonderful american psychologists. studied gemini and when they started to study it, firstly, a part of it was falsified there, and secondly, they took the twins from the orphanage and separated them, but they turned out to be with a similar social status, is their similarity the same or that the family is american? uh, you are already talking about the socio-cultural aspect, which also affects the formation of personality. he is also included in this series, yes genetics, well, biology is what was given initially. uh, mental psychology is what a person gets in the family and socio-cultural is what he gets

in a broader context, but look if we let's get back to the topic of surrogacy surrogate motherhood, which, uh, is the host . one of the main ones, which assumes a container in the series. and how does this question of genetics or environment play in the topic of human reproduction with the help of mothers, but here i see, yes, genetic material. it will still be the parent. the customer will still be the mother and father of those who want to bear this child with the help of the mother’s service, but genetically he and them, uh, i am here, as a psychologist, interested in a slightly different question. this is the question whose affections is formed during pregnancy, and the woman formally has nothing to do with it. the film shows such a moment where in the clinic the main character, sasha da, is trying to prevent the child from being quickly discharged, uh, so as not to form a maternal instinct, as

if the child were taken away immediately after birth. yes, she immediately signs the application of the child does not see the maternal instinct does not wake up. well, partially, of course, if you pick him up and feed him and so on. the machine will be launched there, oxytocin and other psychological ones, too, yes more, uh, but in general a-a the formation of a woman's identity, as a mother, begins during pregnancy from the first trimester. at each stage of pregnancy, a woman moves closer and closer to experiencing herself as a mother and, by the time of childbirth, at least somehow come to terms with this and this is identification. uh, already uh, to be able to integrate yourself, however, uh, in the film yes, it is shown that these things can be cut off with the help of a medical protocol, yes. there in the clinic is you escape. i don't think so. and that the emotional connection of the mother of the child during pregnancy. it exists is e, and e will influence in

the future. here we turn to the section of perinatal psychology, dear listeners. i promised to reveal one more quality of our guest svetlana and this quality is my wife. and can i ask you a question already in any way to a psychologist. and as a woman, how do you like the series? that's how you feel when you watch, it seems to me that the series is very uh? a topical, and on the one hand, and beautiful actors, a deep game, this all cannot fail to impress. eh, a little. it seemed to me too radicalized good and evil. and you you do not love some kind of good clearly here evil is clearly here. well, i'm still for the complexity of mental processes. and when the main character, uh, works, 10 series in a row in one is not the main one, one of yes, but we will not be in the field in the same psychological mental status, and he does not change from the series, in principle this.