children of the lord is not so painstaking uh the reaction you're getting is laughter. this is my main weapon. yes, we are now looking into music. but urievsky is like that, after all , what you heard. that's where i'm the main one, uh, i often hear a song in english , for example, a language, i really like it, a very cool song, but if you listen to the text, it is most often banal and, as it were, you think, well, you even need such a banal text, and the song you're still cool, but if you sing in russian, then all this is a dead song. it's her, it's so not works. and therefore, that is, we hear this language, we speak it, we understand it, and therefore, if you write a song in this language, then it will be kind to write , then this is what i heard in the author's song. now come on, then together with the audience. we will say. wow when listened to the next song.

sadness hysteria will not. what are you waiting for? i will kiss you little. will you think it's raining? backdrop of life here abandoned, passing its unimaginable stage i'll be good. are you going to think

what is playing? you will think that a strong wind cut off the earth, leave it to dry in the sun, go away to admire it. creation i'll be next to you

will think a good mood. what flowers? by itself, suddenly the eternal throne. i will pray for you. darling, will you think?

well, now, of course, i must tell you something else. i personally saw my observation, not gossip, that as soon as ilyevsky gives a concert somewhere, you will definitely find incredible beauty in the back of the hall short, but very beautiful girl. she stands straight and straight. not the point. this is his wife. i don't remember what her name is? i only remember this look, and even, well, we won’t write anything. this is too ideal, because okudzhava recommends it to us, which means that the load always coexists with love, that you are a family tree here, it was also not always

already begun to write for sure. only when i quote you already another poet wound on the wheels of people many years ago in saratov for sure, and i must say this is the song, then i wrote in saratov uh, there is no other, even to this is an anthropology podcast on channel one, its presenter dmitry bro, our guest is neo-bard vasily urievsky. well, now the theater please tell me, like the bard's author's song, the theater soon leaves along with that very stellar generation, even for several generations, for whom it was both air and water. well, the russian people lived inside the theatrical sphere, and today what can be seen from uh, from the stage of taganka, there are a lot of us. there is much more in the hall than it was during the pandemic. now, when there was this chess sediment, but

people go around, but you played with yulia petrovich no but i didn’t find you playing, but not on a permanent basis, but we have a baptism of fire, as they say, everyone must go through the master and margarita i also passed, i replaced uh, yuri nikolayevich, in my opinion, smirnova this is a cat. no, he plays the director of a vorite, something comes to him in the morning, and he wakes up with a hangover. here, yes, get up or we would say shoot for everything. here he is played by yuri nikolayevich and just the same, in my opinion, after the pandemic, he was sick and said, come on, i’ve been around for a month played a young actor under the vaults of taganka no, you don’t have the feeling that my great countryman dr. chekhov described, it resembles

widowhood in bebel’s new film, which reproaches all the following husbands with virtues . the young generation does not get you. alive. and here we are with our nipples. but the seamstress yeah, the older generation a month how i played no, there’s no such thing, in fact, i don’t know , god forbid that it be like this everywhere, but we have some kind of team that’s just magical, i think i’m very lucky. i remember i came. e, me all this i have for about a year or two. i went to the theater, you won't believe that i work there. and that everything about this is like me, and i came from saratov like that. and this is taganka and but i always do, let's go through, you'll probably pour some tea and tell and tell all sorts of stories, there are some kind of things like that, and you petrovich told me about one, of course, vysotsky and see through. that's what some jealousy is about when he was leaving. let's make concerts clear

that it contained it, but that's not loved beloved here is this part of vysotsky's life. this is not what he read openly, but it was clear how he relates to this through. under yourself, well, of course, here is an art thing. do you have a song there do you have such a feeling today after all? you are gaining momentum of fame every day just like a bard, i will say bars although still for urievsky. probably we have to find you a more accurate definition of the prefix, neo is neobab. eh, it's in conflict. it's a calling with the one in me not. e originally i am often asked a question. so is it a theater or a museum? i'm in well, naturally. i also asked it to myself, but i told myself that i do not want to find the answer to this question. and i don't want to choose.

well, at least as long as i think that if this happens, i somehow felt that something from this leaves itself, as it were, but no, the playwright falls off to write, such a play would be needed specially for you, so that the guitar would be in this song, and in one performance i still sing. e your news, but the playwright. eh, vampilov wrote not for me, not for me, but uh, there the eldest son is even there silva uh in the film boyarsky yes, he is with a guitar, well, about the exact one, we changed the story and we have busygin with the guitar a and it's me, yes, that's it. we intertwined five, i don’t remember six songs there were some old ones that i had and they took a couple of songs, i wrote, it seems to me, as organically as possible. yes, well, it goes, thank you. god with success is always on the small stage, there are only 100 people and the hall is always full and everyone

leaves in tears. eh, well, with a smile. come on , don't stray far from this musical calling to the next song the next song. i have prepared, which characterizes me. musical uh, eccentric eccentric clown, yes, and i have a little thing, i won't show it to anyone. you have flies , cockroaches, spiders at home, but you never will. here is the same thing, and i have such a thing, just such a la-la, i won’t show it to anyone. every month you hide a paycheck under your pillow, but you never save up for the same little thing. and i have a little thing like that, just lie down, i won’t show it to anyone. you want to look smart, put on

glasses, but still you write like a fool. i i'll come and tell you. it’s hot all the time something else they don’t know that everyone is very nervous, and i don’t care about anything, i ’m like that, in short, and i’m a miracle i’m nothing, i just have a knock, such a direct such la-la-la i’ll show. and you clap, don't clap on your own experience to you. discover the secret thing, either there or it isn't, an interesting

work with the rhythm of a russian phrase. vasya is very interesting. we complain all the time that the russian language is ill-suited for the rhythmic forms of music-making for the bruise for rock and roll. still, we have long words. we are still hissing. a you don't feel. it's great you, uh, you play very much, i love him very much, therefore. and of course, in english, they somehow get lucky every time. i am amazed that each word is almost one word, but in russian but but uh, when i heard uh, the friday group, which is like how they spun it all and me. i just need a

new planet to open up and i realized that's it. that's how i want it, and for me it was too and on the one hand there was an author's song, and then, here's friday with this. that's it too, that's all one guitar and ugh, damn it, that's all. so it's swinging. i realized that here i want it to be , as it were, an author's song, so that it can rock it. just in the next song i want to sing, which i almost always finish my concerts. she is also so lyrical and it seems to me that everything in her is the most ideal. i even once sang at the grushevsky festival already. well, that is, i am there, you are still there too. of course, we will break away from the roots. yes, i will tell you about grushinsky now this song. i sang on stage. it's clear, mm, after and some evening in some camp,

someone will go to our table. there is nowhere. there it was uh, they have. well, the table wasn’t exactly like the table that gave me a table by the fire of the earth and they brought me there, and there is a person sitting there, 15 whom i don’t know at all, here, and then i was already slowly gaining some kind of popularity for the festival and all those poured from that very vaunted registry. well, yes. well, who’s okay, but there are already all such uncles, but big ones lovers. in the author's song versed here to me. well, come on, then i sang a song called the whole world in the palm of your hand. i sang it, and there, in general, rap. and here he is alone, which is the most like this, he looked, then he says, here it seems to be strange, it seems like some kind of rap, and the song is good, let's have a drink with her somehow, so that it turns out it's time

to sing it. yes, it's saturday, even though tuesday i like to sit on the balcony with my elbows. all this is trifle. i remember for now. they won't drive me away the whole world in the palm of your hand the whole world in your palm, parking lot, construction site, garages, an old pond, there are a lot of some kind of dachas, they burn puddles all the time, which do not dry, for a whole year and around there is a layer of mud, bushes, bushes, trees. i got out everything. there behind this i know there is a field exactly. i saw him through binoculars. it is huge. and why do you need to go there behind this field or drive it on a bike? the main thing is that parents do not recognize, and there, behind this field, lies simply the world, after all, i plan to see everything and i will definitely break out. you just need

to be good. i will do my homework. i 'll take out the trash. i will wash the dishes, and then, where the mountains of the river are waiting, they ate them to them, be sure i'll come with sandwiches in my briefcase. during the day i will look at the clouds, and at night i will not get lost at the cosmos. i have my dad's computer. smog you look into his eyes. if he could be seen brought, the river, where are you, so that he would say. it would be possible , of course, to invite an older brother as well, but i don’t think that he will go, it is unlikely that

he sticks out all the time. there, in this institute of his own, he says it's boring, but there is nowhere to go from this horror. but i'm not going to do what i don't want to. i will always do just what you want, i won't complain to my hard fate. and if something goes wrong, i'll come up with something in adulthood , they say a lot of difficulties. well, even if i am very patient, i have achieved my goal and i will definitely see the ocean of the colosseum pyramid, i will have a house, and the house will be full of friends, mom, dad, brother, everyone will live with me. i know nothing like this will happen to us, but just in case, i will learn karate to protect them and even the worst hooligans will beg, but for mercy, if you met that boy. could look into his eyes if he saw

brought, the river, where you are, so that he says, and around the house there will be trees, flowers, but like a garden, but you don’t need to plant anything, the flowers will be the best field b. every day i will collect and give in dashi and from the fifth b. she will be so beautiful, her hair is a beaded dress. there, she doesn't know about it yet. it's too early for her to pass it, but i've already decided everything. she will become my wife. why is she ? ask because there are others, but i see clearly in comparison with dasha all the other girls, the spaces are painted by me. taken i see only give her and she is smart, kind, and she lets me write off my homework, grandma says everything

will come down like water off a goose, no, grandma. i am getting married and do not divorce me from others. you don't have to have five or 90 of them. i love dasha. it's easy, if we meet this guy, look into his eyes. if god saw it, the river brought you, so that he would say. oh, and saturday, even though tuesday i like to sit on the balcony with my elbows, but the window sill and the whole world in the palm of your hand are everything to a trifle. i remember until they drive me away the whole world in the palm of my hand the whole world in the palm of my hand, parking lot,

construction garages, an old pond, peacefully, palm, the whole world in the palm of your hand, you just need to behave well the whole world in the palm of your hand the whole world in your palm the whole world is young. here you are, the audience drove us into a nostalgic mood. everyone had something like that and everyone was such a boy or girl, it's autobiographical, it's maximum. yes, and who is your dad, he has nothing to do with the creative profession, dad worked at some thermal power plant , mom, mom worked at a factory for 30 years. those glass. in saratov there is such a plant with

technical glass, which was made by everything probably what can be made from glass dishes chandeliers for car glass. eh, and so on. i have an older brother. this is exactly what he is. he is a journalist. in general, so far. yes, dear friends, we must tell everyone who deliberately dwells on one child and thinks that by doing so he is doing good, as this only child will get all the best. you will have to share to drag a terrible mistake when a person has an older brother. he is the happiest, because from his older brother he receives bass guitar discs cliched jeans. and, of course, the older approach to the girls was like that. well, he didn’t teach me to get acquainted with girls, but we opened music with him. e together, as if we were discovering the world of rock music. no, no more battles. first there was nirvana of course ah. that was

right, it was heavy, said nirvana, then metallica, then there was sepultura, and then we decided a little, we bought a book where the anthology is. well, in general, all groups of history, there and so on, and we are by description. uh, they understood that, probably, this is what you want to hear, and then we went here to a certain saratov humpback. and do you have this and there we are exactly which album is recommended there we bought black sabbat. uh de purple and everything, then, yes, what made you give birth so quietly? it's quieter to do so you can not listen to this coffin for some reason. i don't know how they endured anything either. although i have. well, just now nirvana came to me from exactly when, even when she should come, apparently i was 13, in my opinion, or 14 years old. in the summer i opened the window of the tape recorder to the fullest and put some the most terrible song, where it’s just even where he just yells and there’s nothing there, i kind of

know that he lives here. here is a person who listens. this is the kind of music, and not what you had there in the nineties. was everyone there listening to other music the time you told your parents you were going to be an actor? and they told you, so put the warmth of the law faculty here, because lawyers always live best of all. here you put the actors in the law school , wherever you want, even though there was no clown like that, there was no such thing either, of course, they understood that vasya will go. they certainly saw in me. from the desire to do something like this, but they didn’t take it seriously. and when i finished school, and i ended up pretty bad. i would have some. well, he certainly wasn't perfect. at best, i had almost all fours, but sometimes one other three slipped. they spoke, with such assessments. you won’t get into a normal university and they will take you to the army and you won’t survive there at all, so you need to be told

to go to the culinary school oh my god because you you will get a chef diploma and you will go to the army already as a cook, and you will already be in the kitchen. and this is a different attitude towards you. there already you will cut. that's all and i think so, well, mom, as you say, i went. uh, i entered culinary, and it was not difficult there, because with my level of knowledge. i was a genius there. i entered easy but unlearned for 2.5 months and we came to the assembly to see what was happening there from other parents. and then she asked me a question. and you generally like it there, and i told her no, and they sent me back to school. it was after ninth grade. brought back to school. i finished the tenth or eleventh. i didn’t - when my parents told me that you know, then we tried to participate in our destiny somehow to direct you there, but now he does whatever he wants. and i

saw. i entered the university. i took english courses. i wanted to go into journalism. actually, too, and saratov state and i began to take exams there. i passed one, and the second, uh, i didn’t come to the second, because in parallel i filed documents for the theater took me there for some reason, although i remember myself. i wouldn't take myself. well, you're crazy, probably, the future also determines your present, like the past is this is the old samurai. here, okay. and now we are here. we would still like to listen to something else at the next and thank you for your attention to the anthropology podcast on the first see you again. problems from worries jump jump from hood to hood, run hippo cubes

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hmm this is a podcast triggers, and with you again today we are sergey on ourselves and tatyana krasnovskaya psychology. hello and today in our studio marina tell us how you came to us , i had such a request, literally. i recently realized that i am not aware of my femininity. what is it about well, about the fact that i am a manager and i have such a more masculine character, and how my position, as it were,

obliges me. all the same, to keep myself, and the last time i try to see in myself a woman, only a woman who i will like, what i should be. and that's what literally recently, i hmm realized that i'm chasing, for some kind of some kind of pattern of this femininity, a generally accepted pattern. it must be some kind of vanilla femininity there, yes, there is a vanilla woman, there mimimi there, i don't know hate. i realized that this is not about me, but i'm chasing this, but it's not about me at all, and well, that's just one person. he was literally there a few days ago, a girl told me, she says, i like your femininity so much. she is special for you, she is different for you, and i realized that i mean her, i don’t see her. well, that is, i don’t understand what kind of mine it is and i’m chasing some kind of template. here's a request that i want to consider it.

and apparently i don’t accept it, as far as i understand, again, if i’m chasing for some reason others for this vanilla, according to you, you are in control as a result of the fact that you have a masculine temperament or, nevertheless, you have a masculine temperament, because you are in control. good question. i think one follows from the other. i have been on my own since childhood. since childhood, i have not been involved, almost my parents. that is, i have always been left to my own devices, even somewhere right from childhood, they delegate some duties to me that, in principle, do not suit a child. well yeah, well, that is at that point here uh, so i think it's, most likely, everything, i have always been responsible. i had to be responsible. i have always been the eldest, as it were, well, accordingly, in the course of i manage. then how would the logic line up a little differently, because you started with the fact that i am a manager, and therefore i have a masculine character, now i

turn around a little and, as a result , it is revised, because well, we need, of course, to detect some determinism , but the elements of the psyche, and the determinism of the events of your last year so that we can say so understand where it all could have started and started, and you have younger brothers, sisters , younger brother eight years younger. yes, i am now 42 years old, in fact, my parents grew up from us. yes, this period, what you remember about it, i practically don’t remember, but this period. some kind of small flashes there, some kind of new year there, i don’t know, some people went there to visit. well, here's something like that, i really remember myself, just the same, when i started to remember better, when my brother appeared. i abruptly became an older older adult. that's it, i'm already 8

years. i was already an adult. yes, i don't remember, no, not like that. come on, let's go visit. i'm mom dad, even how old are you at this moment, whom did you go to visit, what is happening right in the present tense. describe friends of my parents, very good friends. there was a certain company there, there were just three or four families, i don’t remember exactly, and we constantly, if we were going to some holidays, events, especially the new year. for some reason, i remember the new year, it was just these families. we are children, i was well, a girl and another boy, who is older than me, everything that i remember myself is sitting at the table at the table. they somehow communicate on their own topics there, who are in the same room, who is in the kitchen here smokes something else there. i feel somehow in my own empire. why, well, i want to say some kind of my mirok that is, i do not belong to them. i myself play

relaxed. but in principle, somehow here, but how would they describe you. here is marina with us, she is what an independent. here's a marina will always put there take. yes hmm well i mean, marina isn't going anywhere. it looked like some form of indifference towards you. yes, i still have a feeling , that is, that, well, no matter how fond, probably, yes, they didn’t give scans there or somehow i don’t know, like a girl. yes, i always have the feeling that i was. and even as a child i always played with toys, but i don’t know there, a machine gun, a ball, there was something like that, that is. well, here's the boy, it seems that it was your choice, or is it still how you were brought up. it's more likely that you would not be mine, it seems to me. why do you think you could have chosen being a boy the first phrase that

comes to mind? did the pope want a boy? dad wanted a son yes, it was, well, somehow, in some conversations. i heard it. that's not right. he told me that, well, no, i first wanted a boy, i don't remember this. yes, but in some ways, dad really wanted a boy. now imagine such a picture, imagine a separate department. lies a woman in labor, and this is your mother and here she gives birth and are born. here you see a little girl. what feelings do these events evoke in you? this picture is a picture, but i see, mom, here's a picture, as if i'm in my mother's arms, looking at her and what do you feel? so you were born with a girl? perhaps they did not know who would be born then not yet set. this is a surprise for them

. and dad dad is not around. well, when he sees you, what are the feelings of his fantasies of the time that i see when dad came, when dad is around? dad is also happy, but just at some point you decided for some reason marina that you have to be a boy, that in order for dad to be around you have to be a boy. just because the child is in general, in principle, a-a o sexy, he does not realize his gender for a very long time he does not understand. what is the difference between boys and girls, that is, it is only in relation to adults. yes, there girls are dressed in pink, boys are dressed in blue, but the child does not.