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Understanding 9/11tv Vremya pokazhet 1TV March 6, 2023 3:15pm-4:01pm MSK
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up right, and we don't. well, wait a minute i want to comment. this is when a french journalist writes something that does not coincide with the government's point of view. we don't mix it up mr. president, i'm not talking about journalists. i'm talking about the statement of the french foreign minister ledrianok. african tour sergey lavrova what is called feel the difference everywhere the course towards beneficial cooperation and policy statements about the development of partnerships despite attempts. west to prevent them. well, as for the macron at home, big ones are waiting for him problems. tomorrow kicks off aside, the national zubov trade union says it could become indefinite. main requirement. to cancel the announced pension reform, 2 million people, workers in key industries and energy and transport, should join the action. including it is expected that the country will be paralyzed, an indefinite strike of employees of nuclear power plants has already started
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; let me remind you that in france they want to raise the retirement age by two years to 64 years . this minister. they want to take away people, and also almost all retirement years. probably, while everything we are following the development of events and the information channel on the first will continue the program time will tell. the information channel on the first continues its work on the air, the program time will show with you anatoly kuzichev. e. you just saw this housewarming party. let's say this again. this is important. it seems to me important to say this so, to the russian entrepreneur, the head of the tsargrad group of companies konstantin malafeeva tried to commit an assassination attempt about it reported to the fsb here is just in front of you about a fragment of operational shooting at the time of laying a bomb under a car. uh. you see, man. first he walks around the car, then they carry out some manipulations. something there under the bottom thrusts
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and leave. well, luckily it didn't work out. how do you understand? well, there is something to talk about here , which means, according to the information of the russian special services , attempts on the malofey were prepared according to the same scheme that was used in the murder of daria dugina under his car. how are you they were seen trying to plant a bomb, which is especially important, and according to the federal security service of the russian federation, the attempt was organized by the ukrainian special services. a name is mentioned there in connection with this. eh, denis kapustin is such a former russian who is involved in the recent. uh, there is a short-range murder of the bryansk region and so on. i don't think this is the same. the main thing here is the whole story. it does not require long long hmm such deep reasoning reflections and commentary comments. in fact, he is one fits generally into one in one word the word is terrorism or the word is the body. and now
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it follows from this word, it seems to me that all the necessary and inevitable consequences and the words and the main thing are short advertisements , let's go back to the studio. good boy. well, how many fish are there? what does the doctor say? i am a doctor myself. what the hell does that mean, i didn't understand what was going on. for a new life , watch new series after the program time up to
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we continue to work live. let 's show you some posts. what are they different. although it would seem from one source from the states well, the first scholz unexpectedly almost secretly went, which means washington is negotiating with biden, it’s very funny there. uh, let's not even discuss this separately, although the accompaniment of these media is german for this trip. it would be worthy, of course, of a separate large programs. well, like there, the journalist needs to understand that you will have to say so. well, it's just a joke there. okay, in short, let's go. and there, of course, they asked him the same question. and he, of course, answered him, listen and answer questions. when you spoke to president biden. you had to admit that the conflict in ukraine has reached a dead end, if it drags on for years, then
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ukraine as a country will be destroyed, where it all will lead, it is very difficult to judge what will happen next in ukraine, but something is absolute. clearly, we will continue to support ukraine with financial humanitarian aid, as well as weapons. it seems to me that this is a classic example, when you have nothing to say, he has only one, especially after meeting with biden. here you have one method. you ask her a question, well, she will reason, she will reflect. well, give yourself the opportunity, so to speak, turn around intellectually no. so there is an approved mantra and i have to repeat it, which i repeated on it, so it seemed to me that this was some kind of illustration. i i want to quote a couple more from the building , so as not to be unfounded . well, you know what they say in serious publications. not a single serious, so to speak, idea, not one serious fact appears today. it's just that it 's always for some reason, well, for some reason
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an article appeared in e. edition titled national headline. u.s. let the partition of ukraine be allowed but moral duty is not a strategy ukraine let's read in general. western enthusiasm for the ukrainian issue will continue to decline until then. until the zelensky government confronts a fait accompli at that moment, ukraine will be literally divided, and with the approval of its so-called supporters of the apu, too weak to resist russian troops and reach the border of ukraine in the ninety-first year, in addition, a counter-offensive and capture operation donbass and crimea will be bypassed by american and european allies. too expensive because would require huge quantities of equipment ammunition, as well as air support and access to foreign intelligence. in such a situation, the most realistic scenario is the fragmentation of ukraine as a result of diplomatic negotiations. it found a review. oh, and one more quote. this edition is, uh, yes.
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hill writes that in the white house, let's say , not everyone supports, well, which they themselves call crazy ideas. biden administration leaves escape routes for itself officials have repeatedly dodged questions when it comes to returning crimea to ukraine about the crimean peninsula for the us strategy of ambiguity on the topic of crimea this way to hedge their bets on a disputed piece of land that could help bring russia to the negotiating table to end the war. please, yes, we have a citation marathon, and the washington times wrote a very correct literate thought, which , in general, invested in what it was doing, was closed, and the problem is that the west has left the biden , the whole west they have no vision ukraine's victories that is, everyone says that ukraine should return and the territory of ukraine must win. well, no one has, and no one can
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articulate. how can ukraine do this without a global nuclear war in this, their key problem is this problem. and the reason. why does everyone understand perfectly well that they will not win from the other side , which means that the second option goes to what we have in the press, called the thirty-eighth parallel, yes, the korean option or the korean variant, that is, the rude division of ukraine, which is being written about more and more and more media, but there are two key questions here just the first who will share? that is, conditionally such okay east it is clear russia and the west who is the independent state of poland hungary-romania, who is not yet clear and the second point, how to divide where will the thirty-eighth parallel pass? and this is the key moment? here, in theory, in a good way, to be honest, i can be, if someone does not agree with me, the thirty, eighth parallel, the ideal option, that is, for us , including, we take what we need. the rest let the poles take, but , but the question is not enough where it will pass this line, we have our own vision where it must pass. the west now
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believes that the thirty-eighth parallel should pass strictly along the donbass, that everything else should be given to ukraine the current status quo. yes, now it is the thirty-eighth level, so that in our where to click there are different interpretations of the honest coast, odessa nikolaev all-russian territory. that is, it does not include krivoy rog, but that is, as i understand it. i understood, well, so that all these visions came to some common denominator russian, that it was said to someone that you saw the phone, and kiev is the left bank, kyiv is like berlin in half. and there, well, so that people do not come, under a certain common denominator , more months are needed. or maybe years of hostilities, until the parties realize that it will not move further. and in order to understand this, it takes some months, which will be the korean version in korea , it took 2 years for them to understand that everything, and on
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our part, this, in principle, may not be. we have a clear understanding, it seems to me, i am not holding a candle here in the kremlin well, it seems to me that we have a clear understanding that we need this will naturally not work. it's clear, yes. well, now let's give our ocean mate one. yes, and when i start i wrote about the fragmentation. hmm , maybe they meant into two parts. maybe this is what we are talking about. yes, and some part of the ukrainian territory will eventually be given to russia . we are often we are on time like, and we are the korean karelian karelian isthmus and i thought you came up with a play on words between the korean, so to speak, e option and the korean finnish war, there are a lot of similarities, but 12% in their territory to the soviet union
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when they actually lost, when the finns lost this war, but it seems to me that, contrary to maximalism, but zelensky all the same , ukraine will have to give up the territory 12% 10%, 20% - look at how the territory and the american publications and your own have changed. by under the pressure of what circumstances? why? did you suddenly start talking? because today he said, now he said, well, everything goes to this, because that we understand that a protracted conflict is completely unprofitable for the united states and in order to achieve those goals that zelensky wants to achieve. it's unrealistic. i think that the military and politicians, then this means complete, but hmm ukraine it is clear very well and quotes with e in the russian sphere, but allegedly biden. in when he was in the piston when we performed. he even scolded the leaders of the balta countries and
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that it is necessary to get rid of these maximalist, uh, goals, what, but the liberation of these four regions. this is unrealistic and stop talking about it. us it is necessary to speak pragmatic realistically, that is , we must do it. i got it, yes. there are plans that there should be some kind of compromise, another matter, and i spoke about this, all this may well not suit. uh, russia is not 12% or 15, not even 20%, because russia has, how right we are returning ours dear experts, russia has it, but this declared goal and task has been declared, if it is not so to say, it won’t achieve , then it will be forgive, as it were, what parallels you did not draw there. it will be a defeat. yes, because there is another eleventh way, how can these basic goals be achieved if kiev
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remains ukrainian in fact, in fact, the unity of identification, as you understand, it’s not that the ends are a means. yes, this is a means to achieve the security of the russian federation, this is a means there is no such goal that people become better goals only russia should feel safe. well, yes, ukraine, which were nazified, was trized, this is a danger. demet, and ukraine will remain ukrainian, it will be so militarized that it will not seem enough to you after the copper deal. that's why there are big questions when it comes to this very korean one. e korean script. where yes, yes, or nothing from well, no, there is an option, of course, please, there is an option. you know , of course, we love to play pranks on western leaders there, and, probably, not without reason, we often play tricks on them and slander them somewhere. well, at the same time, i think that we all perfectly understand that people are
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still quite smart and, most importantly, the system. uh-huh and i think they're fine are aware that it is impossible to defeat russia. well, it’s impossible a priori due to the fact that russia is a nuclear power in terms of parity comparable to the united states, he didn’t even talk about the rest at all , and therefore, it seems to me, the main task, and the western comrades see it in preventing russia from defeating, yeah. here in this confrontation. that's the main task to explain to me then look, that is, on the one hand. russia can not lose the task of not understanding russia and unequivocally win. that's here in this the collective west has a lot of leverage. uh, ukraine, the ukrainian ukrainian leadership today is militant, and people do not consider the human resource as long as they are available. therefore, e. we are pumping up weapons
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more and more powerful with conventional weapons and let us achieve, uh, reach russia those, uh , obvious successes on the battlefield, which , well, will completely question the ukrainian state. it seems to me that this is what the efforts of the collective west are directed at today. in what i am ready to agree with michael that this infinite the situation cannot continue, because it is true with a very long-term prolongation of the conflict. it becomes too unprofitable for the collective west of the united states. first of all. russia has withstood e to date in its economic position. yes , and it is difficult, but nevertheless, more and more new connections are being formed more and more actively. china is beginning to talk about its active position in this conflict, and the arrival of china with an active position will greatly change the whole general situation and therefore, sooner or later
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some, but the process will be initiated by western countries, at what point and under what conditions? yes, i think that today they will persistently wait until, uh, the ukrainian armed forces try to make another counter- offensive. call it whatever you like, if it works out - this is more favorable negotiating opposition for the west, if it doesn't work out. well, what did the ukrainian army fail to do and, uh, it seems to me that it is after this, to a greater extent, and the collective west will begin to lean towards the idea, that yes, it's time to agree on something, about what well , here is the broadest police with a belt, but it's more interesting here, about what you understand, uh, some. what the west will put forward michael says not everyone will agree with this, of course, as i understand myself, if i understand correctly, if i interpret
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the negotiation process, this is when both? you have to sacrifice something of your own, so to speak, ideas of something, and then a contract is obtained. actually. well, how else, otherwise it’s not negotiations on an ultimatum and surrender, there is such an option at all for me, he's perfect. that is, i had to say this, and there is no one side that sacrifices the other for something, i say, there is a variant of incomparable ones. uh, your move is called complete military defeat. it's just, on the other hand, a complete military victory, respectively, the surrender of an opposing country. well, i don’t know how much we say so. we can reason in these terms, although it would be nice. one more little quote. well, i wonder if douglas mcgregor is such a person. this is a former adviser to the head of the pentagon. he is a colonel. he he talks a lot of interesting things clearly understanding what he is talking about here, see. eh, what he says about his own and about michael rodin, let's just listen to the usa. we will again do what we have already done after vietnam, we dropped the remaining
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equipment, which, in our opinion, was worth nothing in the south china sea, it sailed away easier, and no one else remembered it. we killed 2 million vietnamese lost, there are 58,000 of our soldiers. what happened to those two million vietnamese. we didn't acknowledge it until many, many decades have passed. actually. we said something like, well, we killed. maybe a couple hundred thousand. we just got away from the topic, the americans confirmed that they have a very short memory, you change the news story and tell the media to stop talking about it. if the media doesn't talk about it, then you just go home to your living room, open a beer and watch cable tv. i understand that this is a long, so to speak, dramatic speech, like what the americans, that is, today it is an existential threat russia, so to speak, remade the world, as they say, yes, threats to democracy and so on, but this can be corrected like this, which means
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you are changing the news story. you say that you and him have already stopped putting pressure on it, showing that everything and the americans are calm, which means you open the jar and look, damn it. everything on this on this existential threat for americans to what, that is, to what i am talking about, it will be easy to jump off. well, if i understand correctly, mcgregor americans get off pretty easy listen, well if they, after two million people killed, destroyed in vietnam, as quite calmly, so to speak, continued to live and enjoy her life, but what problems yes , they can come off not quite calmly come off. anyone can, if you change, uh, let's say the news and, well, basically, first of all, the agenda. that's what, in principle, i think that from three months to six months you can change the mood of any society in general
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. here is what the whole society will come to open in a can of beer. maybe it will mutter something to itself that it does not agree with what is shown on tv, but to conduct a certain dialogue with the tv, it may not even be pleasant for the tv, but, nevertheless, all this is very easy to do, and everyone understands this very well. and here is what, from my point of view , is saving today the expert community on both sides of the border, as you like, let's say. so the expert community, in fact, says, like politics, he himself general things. well, like peace is better than war, but uh, so to speak, they killed 2 million vietnamese. well and god. here they are dead. it's important here it's important. well, now alexander nikolaevich is important here, the context. i guess it's easy, if you analyze, well, just
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look at a huge number of publications. that's it on this topic, a certain arrangement of the post-military post-conflict and so on. and this is right there in the piggy bank. not not whitewashing the expert community into a piggy bank, so to speak, e, how to say e into a piggy bank. uh, tricks for a more or less neat dismount with this topic. we pay attention to what you are affected by, or journalists. well , what they call a profession is supposed to be, or retired politicians who have never become military men are also mostly retired. but they do not make any decisions and, in general, do not have any influence on the course of affairs. that is, well, if i were sitting somewhere in america i would write, i would write something and i would be like that , but, no matter what, i don’t understand it, that when in some serious newspaper, well, such a serious newspaper some idea appears, listen, what are we all. what if you do you understand what it is, if it didn’t get into the head in the newspaper? no, i understand that, but
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still. we do not have enough to solve the main equation. uh, well, let's say, at least two components of the first for us, no one here, and not only there, the position of the russian leadership is not known here, because certain goals have not been proclaimed. and here, but in details this position is not known to anyone. so i'll take the liberty. e. to doubt that this rigid and definite position exists at all, that is, most likely, it still mobile, that's the second what we lack to resolve some issues. see what they write. why did i start talking about the expert community? here they write. they say that it is clear that everyone is tired. it is clear that michael is right when they say that america is fed up with this and so on, but nevertheless, as i understand it, the trains with weapons
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are coming. here is schultz, as it were, he didn’t look there, but comical from our point of view. he forms these echelons and sends them for conversations. oh, i understand in the no section, i understand everything, but we can talk about the section, at least. after the tricolor russian tricolor will be armed on the bank. and not before this moment did you understand? i'm not talking about the lions, but at least the banks, as i once told them that in order to demand what they demand, they need to block the flag over the kremlin, otherwise yes, i agree, fine. no, i'm not with it. i do not agree, of course, and this will not happen. hope for my life. at least, here, which means that with regard to the russian leadership, which has a position that we do not know in detail. this, of course, we do not know in detail, and thank god, can you imagine if we knew in detail the position of the russian
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leadership, as regards, as regards the fact that it is mobile? no, i think that the tactics of achieving one's own goals are flexible. i guess, otherwise this very russian leadership would not have been russian leadership, and i repeat and the demilitarization of denocification. this is not an end in itself. this is a means putin, in my opinion, quite clearly and unambiguously said that we all have a goal one is the security of our country with you, when they live next to us. uh, nazis armed with teeth, this is not very conducive to security when they are. for such a reason , there, let's say their physical absence, apiary reason, bondage, what contracts, for the third reason, i still don’t know if they don’t exist, it’s safe for our country. which means it's acceptable. i think this is it. most importantly, let's go. you say. well, i would like to clarify the position. the fact is that, of course, there are all sorts of retired advisers and so on abroad, but there are active analysts and experts who came to
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the following conclusions prolonging the conflict or under the further supply of large quantities of weapons to the united states leads this direct point the third direct path to a third world war with the use of nuclear weapons. at the same time, these two main issues should be resolved by the baydan administration in order to prevent this and , at the same time, the sacrifice of the territorial integrity of ukraine is not the main one, that is, america should not be interested in how much ukraine will become , it needs to get out of this conflict so as not to allow a third nuclear war, while all military spending, as i advise, there are analysts experts. they should shift to europe what we are seeing now and america is gradually withdrawing from the participation of this conflict. all military expenses are covered by germany, well, wait, while the americans themselves are the most generous contribution. while they will reduce their amount of military assistance and all the main time will fall on europe , europe, of course, will not be able to produce. this is military equipment. she will have it from warehouses
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deliver to ukraine, freeing up, thereby the area under american weapons, so the scholtsy meet in the biden. and after that it was. it is known that most of the military power plants technologists figs. everyone is ahead in the territory of the united states of america yes, there will be the main fees. uh, and at the same time, in order for this pill not to be so bitter, it means that germany got rid of, uh, russian gas, it will receive lng at some special prices. all right, here's the thing. here are the questions about the section. they are still going unilateral. they themselves argue there, and they want to make this division of this territory without asking us. yes, they offer us all the time what is beneficial to them, and not what is beneficial. russia and russia has indicated its position that we will move the security zone, which means there will be a movement back. yes , until they stop. these attacks, terrorist attacks and
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the like, that is, the operation will continue to move up to the border that we outlined back in december 21, when these proposals were published on international european security, and there was named the number ninety-seventh year, and the borders of 97 years. that is, these are hundreds of countries, we will drive up to those citizens. we are trying to ensure that there is a certain security buffer between us and the nato countries. it's so strategic. good luck, but everyone understands that nato is no longer able to provide that amount of weapons. what it is, and their war economy experts say, the following is what some people say. let's put it on a war footing, but they have there was already a 4 month delay last year. they stated. so now for 6 months. it is clear that the trend is increasing and nothing. they can't do anything about it, but human resources. yes, in ukraine they can still throw mercenaries there, but the weapons technology of this issue is always open. the easiest way is to take it
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from warehouses. that's when big shoes start in warehouses. i think then already this help will stop your assessment, so to speak, there are parameters. if they continue at this rate, they will try to support the tattooing for the supply of war equipment, which was before the start of it in time, then everything that was left there in europe would be enough, just over the whole of this year, and maybe even by september of this year. that's all their capabilities and like how like ammunition. understood, understood the equivalent, did you understand in the supply of weapons to military equipment? well, as for the money of american financing, somewhere in the fall, it will be reduced there for a number of internal reasons that have nothing to do with us, and then the budget will end, the election campaign allocated to it will begin during which allocates tens of billions of dollars to ukraine , these cuts. there is some other real allocation of money, there will be a reduction. you understand, it was decided there that next time it will be 7% less. i mean,
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it has some kind of, uh, so to speak, well, the sensation will be physical will be physical. well, several times, at least shrink, yes, but for us. understand everyone there is a million dollars that is allocated to ukraine, then a million dollars to support the ukrainian economy. it's a million dollars continuation of the war any love reduction. well, in general, yes, what about our methods that float, yes, which you say, the goals of us are really one thing it has not changed - ensuring the security of russia, that's how the goal is here. sticch i also have another question, of course, perfect. i don't think anyone will argue with me here. this is the destruction of ukrainian statehood, as such, because in its current vita, it cannot be neutral and somehow more or less sane safe. we tried honestly for 8 years. we they honestly tried to cure her , they sent us to fix it through the menin agreements. eh, they didn't listen to us. now it’s just like everything is already a pathologist.
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you need to take your time now, but the question is tom can we do it completely when we reach the polish border, maybe yes, maybe no, everything will depend on how things go, there are certain minimum minimum acceptable options, oh, which i said yes, that is, the left bank is the maximum run-off of the border from moscow once deprivation of access to the sea ensuring territorial access to transnistria, that is, odessa, nikolaev is the minimum thing that will help ensure our security. yes, even in this case , western ukraine will remain, which will be ours . hostilely, this is not very not the best option, but which option will be adopted as a result , the minimum victory, the optimal victory, the maximum victory , no one will tell you all this now, because no one knows it depends strictly on how it will go, that the current ukraine is not able to . just say so be neutral and so on friends. i am not i know, of course, because in fact, but remember, uh, 1945 and pay attention. how many anti-fascists suddenly emerged in germany just some. well, just
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an unprecedented huge incredible you know? well, therefore, it can be short in every way. the problem is that any copper agreement, even theoretically, and to achieve this slowly , an agreement ukraine will require two things, at least two things, if we are talking about a compromise option in which ukraine will have to give up some territory part of the territory first is a hmm ironclad beto. us guarantees and the guarantee of ukraine's security after, because some kind of private ukraine is now ukraine, the second part is the guaranteed supply of weapons after the e peace agreement is in e. legislatively framed, that is, every year the united states and allies must, but they must supply ukraine with some yes, but only reinforced concrete guarantees will not save the father of russian democracy , ukrainian democracy is not satisfied. i beg
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your pardon. i i i what what? and as i said , it was done in order to strengthen the security of russia, yes, but it turns out on the contrary, because after the copper agreement , let's say, if kharkov remains with ukrainian kharkov, so to speak, you read chickens on the sixth of march. well, wait, if not, if the word was finished, and that's it, we would now sort it out there, well, what's the point of talking about it now, when i'm talking to him in the discharge, let's say kharkov will remain ukrainian. no, they won't. let's not let that happen. for what? and why will the under-ice time remain? that's your favorite phrase underwater time, so i i say that, according to the goals and objectives of a special military operation, this is not the case. this is the green stripe and something wider. actually, only gevork said exactly this, but how, please, in
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russia, he is barely correcting himself with the donetsk region. and now you are in kharkov. yes, we have time to regulate russia. to start the attack on kharkov early. don't be in a hurry. in general, summing up a short summary, by and large we have a rare unanimity in the studio today. the only thing. that's what we're all talking about what conditions yes in the end? yes, george quite clearly formulated these conditions, but here's what i want to say. michael says the united states should give ukraine the reinforced concrete guarantees that remained not the ukraine that did not remain there, the united states will give these guarantees to them that the first time they violate the guarantee, or something, congress can put michael wait, interfere, but there is a beautiful expression that i have no doubt. you know that the sheriff's indians don't care . completely hostage to the united states. well,
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you can give any guarantees. today by this action. yes, listening a little. well, let's talk vulgarity, but gorbachev's guarantees were given that nato would not expand. or do you also say that this is vulgarity? okay, no. let's make it up understood the archives, it turned out that it was baker who was talking about it. ah, and the archives were raised, it turns out that they talked about it since i read, probably, the memoirs of the dry tree translators, who said that these are the two americans themselves said, yes, what are we here? well, michael michael dabychev said, i didn’t understand, so if they considered the united states to be vulgar to give guarantees to gorbachev , who then headed the soviet union for a minute, then wait for guarantees ukraine
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lived without concrete months, an agreement with signatures and so on, therefore, in fact , really want to repeat the law. how such a cancellation was accepted is not a big problem, so ukraine has really become a hostage today and the west will ultimately determine. under what conditions should you try to start negotiations? with russian federation, but what are the conditions under which we all today yes, by and large , you unanimously see this. yes look how i noticed. at the very beginning of the program. how michael's rhetoric has changed how the rhetoric of a large number has changed, there are publications of american politicians and american american analysts. well, it seems to me that when everything goes like clockwork and how are you, how does schultz report about it? negotiations, true advertising. secret
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