all the conflict with the church, well, it's not new, but of course, not explored, not thought out. i would say that nothing new seems to be written about tolstoy. and yet, every time you open something new. well, i you said that everything is written, er, i dare to argue. of course, there are classic books. there boris himbab, for example, is the author of a cycle of a whole book, but i would say that tolstoy is not awarded such attention as dostoevsky, for example, for dostoevsky's anniversary, 40 books were published, for example, 40 of one clip. shall we not have anyone offend to name no names. but speaking in general, it seems to me that there are not enough of such fundamental serious books, all the more understandable to the general public. it is clear from the old tolstoy people old, so to speak, people left the school. bulgakov zhdanov

is new, not that they did not come to eat, for example, the wonderful book by andrei zorin yes, tolstoy's life in my opinion. eh, viewed as text? yes, here is the biography of andrei fedorin. yes, it is a very powerful book. that's why it appears, there are yasnaya polyana collections. dnt works state museum tolstoy, which, well, probably, yes, probably, that's some kind of strong, understandable tolstoy school. today, as before. it was perhaps not, but i speak a little differently. i say, here are those, uh, books that, well, would help, uh, a new look at tolstoy for a very large wide circle of people, and your book was exactly like that, because i tell my student that read pavel basinsky. a person loves the late tolstoy but

it's very difficult to love the late tolstoy, really. i think there is another one here moment. so i once thought, what is the secret of the success of tikhon shevkunov's book, e, not saints, well, well, i wrote. yes, now vladykin was written by a monk. so what, and he removed the fear of monastic life from the average reader, because, well, the average person stops the monastery. there is something incomprehensible, something mystical there. see they are ordinary people. they are not saints. although maybe saints and uh, that was the reason. well , except that she's good, really. that, in my opinion, was the success. i i think that partly. the same thing happened with my book tolstoy because, well, people from school.

here is an idea about this very angry gray-bearded, that means an old man who hangs while he is perceived as late in everything tolstoy perception, in general , of the whole world is hmm a gray-haired old man with a beard with a bushy mustache and with a very sitting look. and this kind of, so to speak, fear of this figure. and i wrote to him as a person. it turns out he rushed about, it turns out he sinned, it turns out he had a difficult relationship with his wife. how difficult family history, like many of us. it seems to me that this is what bribed this book, unhappy families. they are all happy in their own way, as we know, well indeed, but i think there was another fear or another prejudice, but these years, well, these years. let's clarify. it is approximately. uh, after anna karenina, probably, yes, the end of the seventies. gifts anna karenina published in 75-77. but the ninth eightieth years of writing

a confession is such a turning point. uh, i think another important bias is the fact that these years are perceived as a crisis and only uh-huh well, this is some kind of decline in the crisis of old age, or the case of the young tolstoy who writes cossacks there war and peace and other masterpieces. and this is something so mezheumochnoe not quite. uh, ripe or overripe it's not. well, i think that in the minds of most people, both war and peace already wrote gray defenses. although young, of course, still young. yes, e is full of energy in general and e is the eighth e, fifty-eight. this is 30 years old, 63 35. well, you and i yes, twice as many, but, but in the minds of most people, this is how it is so here. well, i didn't write. well, this is tolstoy tolstoy, that's why. and, of course, tolstoy

after the spiritual crisis, tolstoy was a philosopher , tolstoy was a religious preacher, and so on. eh, there is. here are overweight people, there is a certain kind of fear and they are also afraid, but it’s just that there is some kind of barrier in his perception. now, he's not really human. i would say so, but he is a man. well, as if not a god. yes, like uh, yes, someone wrote that the inhabitants or such a teacher with a capital letter is sure to. here, although caricature, yes, yes, that's not i can be silent. that's my faith, that's my faith yes, what is art from the late tolstoy as we remember, this is what i remind our dear viewers. he refuses. here are the publications of works of art completely completely and publishes and writes, and they also just do not publish art. why publishes sa? this has been published. uh, here

are some other things on sunday, finally, the third romanov yes, no, at the beginning yes, at the beginning he simply refuses to write, he writes. uh, only such short stories. that's what people alive and so on. uh, but then he writes more than that, uh, this mistake is a common mistake, that tolstoy after the spiritual upheaval, he began to write worse. here are the tolstoy periods of the war of the world anna karenina - this is a delusion on sunday from an artistic point of view. sorry in terms of style. this is a much more refined thing, and than anna karenina, especially war. i'm not talking about their zhimurat and father sergiy and the death of ivan ilyich sunday, how would it be another sin , they perceive this as really such a detailed moralizing, which but yes

really sunday. this is a novel where the author stands behind the back of each character and breathes on the back of his head, it is felt, but in this there is also, uh, no, the avant-garde of this thing is definitely avant-garde, yes, because when you feel all the time, this is the author’s breath . here you have a slightly different impression. let's say in the root bath you rarely feel tolstoy's breath when he condemns someone or someone often for a long time vanilla again often. oh, well , sunday in this regard is interesting for the avant-garde forever. she acts differently the impact can be compared, but let it forgive me. spectators, but with the impact of the black square compared to raphael's madonnas, we find it difficult to love him, like mmm something attractive beautiful graceful. yes, probably so.

well, probably, yes, although it seems to me that katyusha maslova can, but you can love , i don’t know, yes, yes, well, we know that leaving is not only leaving yasnaya polyana, uh, in the fall of 910-1910, but leaving - this is what is the main thing for almost all the main characters of tolstoy, this and olenin in the story cossacks and andrei bolkonsky of course and uh hmm prosecutor golovin in the story of the death of ivan ilyich and their luda. of course they leave their usual life. this is such scopism. yes, flight, i would say, not even leaving. but it is precisely escape that is not the same as escape from problems. rather, run away from yourself, from yourself. what happens to father sergius, what happens to the senin cossacks. and what happens to pierre bezukhov with balcony? yes, with anyone, with anyone from his main

uh, all the main characters and the second is hmm tolstoy was. it's me, i found out in the process, as it were, of studying his biography, that it is very important that tolstoy would have dreamed of changing his disguise in general. here, it’s not just to get away from yourself, but to live under a different name, so that no one knows who he is there as a result, bulletins appear in the newspapers. and yes, he is running he thinks that he disappeared in the third grade, he goes mixed with the people, and in the newspaper journalists write that leo tolstoy is such and such a station at such a station, yes , maybe that's why father sergius yes, that's why he died unfinished. notes of elders fedor kuzmich this is a legend that alexander i did not die in taganrog, which means, and he changed his body , he began to live on the side of siberia, tolstoy knew, of course, that this is a legend, but she was interested in him once he became her, how would this

fake be, in general, artistically implementation is important. that's what he was interested in fedya protasov yes, who now certified the corpse, yes , effective suicide, how would you live, but everyone thinks that you are gone. you live somewhere under some other name, and anna karenina, of course, warmed him. this is an idea. that warmed this idea, perhaps it was due to a lot with it. is this possible? the most important thing hmm is the semantic distance between leaving and running. flight is. well, so to speak, anywhere, if israel and then probably to hell. perhaps this flight is not meaningful. probably this escape was not successful , so many people interpret the last escape 100 yes , he is still not proven where yes is completely somewhere to the south, having visited optina pustyn yes, and quite accidentally catches a cold and falls ill. well, that is, this escape, as it were,

failed, unsuccessful, maybe even meaningless, as many say, not me. uh, after all, the flight of israel is usually the flight of nonsense darkness, external or not. thank you. the fact is that hmm here still needs to be distinguished. eh, specific action. tolstoy it was really an escape from that one. in general, from the horror that happened to yasnaya polyana mainly. not for him, of course, of course, yes, through his fault. it had to do with the testament in it. well, i am writing there, it is quite detailed, but, and the second moment was really warmed by the topic of leaving. he tried to leave the house several times during own life. it wasn't the first one. ah, and he really believed that he would rent a hut somewhere and live to take his daughter to him. sasha because you still need it. yes, maybe makovitsky will still be a doctor of the soul, yes, uh, and no one will know that this

is the great tolstoy, and he will be such a diogene , he was tormented to live there, glory tormented him, this is infinity, the shooter tkaner. uh, uh, hmm yasnaya polyane uh, and he really wanted unity, but he couldn't find it. of course you, when interested, that when he realized it, but he understood. this is on the train when sasha brought newspapers from the station. and he saw what he said, all the newspapers are full of my departures and literally in an hour the temperature rises there. and that means that in the vestibule it was smoky in the car. yes, but all this specifically happened after he saw, so something will not run away anywhere. well , i think it's still important to see it. maybe i'm wrong, and not only uh, such fatigue from glory and so on, but deep,

like the twentieth century. they would say an existential act is important. and generally speaking for russia, a very important act is an attempt, realizing the complexity of the way to avoid it is known. e, here is this famous moment of arsaman horror, and in the late sixties, when in such a dirty house of an arzamas hotel, he went there, completely for some business needs. yes, he suddenly realizes that well, i have my own point of view. yes, they don’t share it, they don’t share it. almost nobody. i don't attach much importance to zamaz horror. uh huh what happened tolstoy just finished work on the double world the work was monstrous tense with headaches. it had to be handed over. everything is already on time russian is. no, publications. yes, yes, and so he finished there, so to speak, the trajectory is already working there, and he is going. uh, means to buy the estate looked at

the newspaper. here is some kind of nizhny novgorod province. so, there are quite cheap lines. and, most likely, just drive through and really treat. prior to that, he sat in blue yasnaya polyana and wrote, he war and peace. then he leaves, it turns out that it is night in the hotel and he is attacked by an inexplicable fear, but in fact in fact, well, now it's called a panic attack, really inexplicable and that's why it's scary, because he can't explain to himself what's wrong. what was he afraid of? well, they just lost their nerves, they just lost their nerves in unfamiliar surroundings. but you never know, which is also curious that the next day he writes about this in his arzamas horror. andreev yes , we corresponded every day when he was leaving somewhere. there, two letters a day , they wrote nothing, and he writes. he says nothing about the fear of death. there's not a word. he just says, some kind of longing attacked me i can’t explain, then he says, the

next day. she returned to me again, but i was already ready for her. and so it was not so scary. but 10 years later, when he writes notes of a madman, he remembers this and explains it with the fear of death. and there is the red square. it's clear? yes, something such a wonderful definition was given to him by talstom, as an artist to use real cases of real people, he mercilessly used real people for his characters, because in the late seventies. yes indeed to the fear of death comes to him, just after which, after writing anna to korea, but still it seems to me, i think that our opinions do not contradict each other, because but this fear is angst, which is what yegor wrote to the bright mountains or kirk as they say anything in different ways. hmm , this is the ultimate fear. unreasonable fear. it is not fear, to lose a loved one or homeland or some thing. yes,

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, we usually have such an interruption. this peculiar, and the genre of conversation, uh, with the interlocutor and with the audience at the same time and we do one of the three, either we read a poem or demonstrate and stroke some old book that i love, and maybe the audience loves it too, or we read a familiar quote from the classics. and today, e, we are reading a poem, this poem by arseny aleksandrovich tarkovsky, my favorite poet, and a very famous e. and the poem - it needs to be reviled. well, first of all, am. tarkovsky, known as a supporter of exactly rhymes of classical verse. he had articles about this, but in the very first stanza. there is an absolutely unconventional strange rhyme here, the poem begins so the soul that flared up on the fly was not seen in the room

by the whites, where in the fingers of the merciful sorceresses the child's body gently warmed, but look, what a rhyme here, but the soul flared up on the fly, no. merciful sorceresses is a rhyme that is composed of the end of a line on the fly and the beginning of the next stanza. this is such an absolute enumeration, which, uh, is very typical for tarkovsky, but this, and it is important that we see here, is the implementation of the key theme of tarkovsky very often in russian literature in world literature. we see a description of death, a description of the moment when the soul leaves the body, when the body parted with the eternal soul, they are indestructible, the soul returns to the lord for a believer or closes the circle of reincarnations for people of other faiths, and the theme of tarkovsky is different. and what happens to

the soul before it enters this body. uh, this poem is obstetric what is it called yes, it's not entirely clear, but it a poem about my own birth. and as a matter of fact. and if you understand this, then the future becomes very clear, intelligible and prophetic, the soul that flared up on the fly , the whites did not see in the room, where in the miles of merciful sorceresses the gentle warm-ripening body of rain, the garden passed the day before and the earth did not have time to dry out there were so many lilacs in june that the radiance of the sky turned blue and in july and august there was so much light from the three windows and so much light into the sky from the fountains. beat that my soul and beyond the grave in the day of creation, how the soil is warmed up in this poem. eh, as if the poet absorbs

the moment of his birth, which we do not know about and tolstoy talks about it, we do not know birth and death. the fat one has fine enzymes, known when and good hands. some lokhana is washing him there, right? uh, this well-known fact includes here, as it were, the moment of birth and the moment of death, because tarkovsky was born on june 25 at such a peak of summer. uh, ivan kupala is close and so on. and now, my soul from behind the grave in the day of creation, how the soil is warmed up, we see this directly now. that is, here there is such a shift in time and e. in this poem, analyzing the moment the soul enters the body, the poet speaks to us through death, we see this overcoming time in the poem. eh, arseny of tarkovsky, which we have just read. well , now let's go back, uh, to elf tolstoy and,

most importantly, to pavel bakhinsky. let's go back to the past in our podcast, it is customary to talk about such an anthropological dimension of fate. well, how did it happen that pavel basinsky, who was born in volgograd, a southern man, became, uh, a student of literary institute, but at first it seems like a student of the faculty of foreign languages, how did all this happen and how did you get into literary criticism? where did they serve? how it all started so many years ago. tell us, please, well never of course in childhood there adolescence. i did not think that i would become a literary critic, i even began to write. there i had many different dreams. yes, such children from an aquanaut to an international journalist, and in order to travel, i didn’t want to travel abroad to see measures, of course, and so on. it seemed to me that

the most beautiful trees in the world. this is a palm tree uh-huh, and then i realized, after all, birches, they are palm trees. well, okay, the figures of our time with you, but foreign ones were surveyed. well, yes, the club program 6. they want they want to travel. that's what the critics will definitely not think saratov university. i entered simply because, firstly, i wanted to study at the university, and secondly, well, to be honest, i wanted some kind of independence and, again, there. i entered to learn english well and then be a procession, yes birches, then beautiful logic. so i didn’t even know about the existence of a literary institute. i just didn’t know, but i accidentally fell into the hands of literary russia, now i remember where there was an announcement about a creative competition, which is held at a literary institute. just what a fateful day, as they say now, yes, pavel basinsky in

saratov ends up in literary russia and i sent him there. well, i, uh, quickly wrote some two articles, even to say rather eternal literature, i sent such i was sure that i'm not going anywhere, of course. well, somewhere institute. well, everything, the lord just sent me and left for the old detachment. and then there's this clutch. yes, fate further came to me there, yes, yes, he came on a motorcycle, my friend just ride to me. uh, i say, well, let's get up, let's go to the city, they arrived there. this is me going to the hostel. i am looking at a letter from this institution. you passed the competition , and before admission, but admission there is something not a day and a half, she is there for 2 weeks, for example, that is, in 2 weeks you have to be in moscow with documents. what have you already dropped out of exams? yes? and that means, well, passing the exam. maybe yes it was. so, in general, i did all this quickly, quickly, which means i did it, i arrived, but did not

enter. the first one was very funny because i passed. uh, there are four exams, plus swampy, medium swampy. well, it's like school food now anyway yes, average ba. i had five four eczema. we were given five five , four, that is, well, just one point for the full package, i don’t act, but they took only two critics, we were touched in general for criticism, but they took only two that year. in that year, they decided to manage the country. yes, there were two critics, the wonderful sasha lufsov. and uh, larisa shulman whom i was friends with and they are friends, uh, they got all the pyaterochkas in the exams, and therefore they didn’t take me, because the poets there about bunnies handed over to triples, they acted at the same time well, more than, but they were taken more just take more. that's

why i was terribly offended by moscow, even wrote about it, then the story prisoner of moscow. yes, we remember. yes, i'm just in moscow i somehow perceived such an enemy that i must defeat, in the end it’s just like that. david and goliath just and i came for the second year again passed the competitions and did so got on got on the criticism and criticism. actually did it. it was the course. it was the course of sel to alekseevich surganov, to whom he was terribly grateful, who was not only my teacher, in general, his father was with him at home, it was often why i loved me very much, he blessed me very much, and i am terribly grateful to him. well, literature, by the way, gorky as a result, because he was the head of the department, soviet literature. and i graduated from the institute and wanted to graduate school. so i thought that i would write about feta , there was a thesis, well,

alexey said to me, you know, we need you, or you are in the country again, well, that’s why it all started too. here alex me in general. he forced me to study, but i am terribly grateful to him, because then gorky simply became part of the big ones with you. we remember, tell me, but the literary institute of that time is my perception from the outside. i did not study there, but i was friends with many. as you know, this is after all such an island of freedom. much more was said at the lecture. what could be seen in print or at moscow state university, of course. well, the teachers spoke quite freely, she was god gumilev. here, yes, satirized. yes? gumilyov well, maybe, uh, actually brodsky. actually they said calmly, well, of course they went. uh, myself from the danish things there in the hostel and no one because of it. in general, especially. i don't think they were following

reminds me of a literary podcast. let them talk, let them read. i dmitry bak conversation with a literary critic in the journalist pavel basinsky. in a word, there will be a literary institute, and then criticism, but we already know that in the final book about tolstoy, this is not criticism, absolutely yes, how does this exist? you now have a whole book, it is not one. here i am showing it from uh, no need for a violinist. this is a novel with criticism, as it says here, this is a collection of various materials about criticism, there are other books. and yet how is it uh, there is still a critic in your self-consciousness. eh, in my opinion, the understanding of this man who does not think in books. he still thinks in terms of some point reviews, responses , portraits, he reacts to what is happening right now, of course, yes, well, with criticism. i had two stages. here is a novel.

yes, an affair with criticism, because at first i was lucky that i immediately entered this institute when i studied and published in a literary newspaper for a student. it was impossible, but i will not hide it. and just drove the literature worked. uh, very big friend my parents, a restart of andrian's bitterness, which is not something to say, uh, they printed me, because he said, there is no printing there, u just because, uh, i took on what other critics did not want to take, what abusive criticism? oh, by the way, that's because the basinsky of that time is a synonym for such a zail. yes, yes, i became a zail, so i printed such filiton ones, but it’s also very funny, because this is the soviet era, it’s still eight to the beginning of the eighties and the authors could not be called by name. because if they you will call by name, despite the fact that

a literary newspaper is not a newspaper, truth but criticism nonetheless. we considered it directive, well, of course, you name the author. and now he just stopped throwing it out of stock before this critic. it was just a firing squad. yes, yes, here is a literary newspaper, so i scolded. well, he didn't say. it was very funny. i even want to re-read now somehow everything was, but you had a magazine in the novel by one author, he says there is such nonsense, they still called it. yes it was hmm and uh but the thing is that i still stumbled for a minute, because i wrote, and the prose of a woman and then me if a person of the light is strenuous, it's great to write a writer, right? and she says that something in general made us thrown out of all plans, all all

female authors, all comers, were thrown out, because in a literary newspaper there is criticism of women's prose. i stopped doing criticism just for a long time until the early nineties. it's really simple when she stopped being a director, yes, yes, and in the ninety-first year i was invited to just a literary newspaper andrianov continued there still work, but igor petrovich zolotovsky became the editor of the department. he read one of my whole cycle was so reviews he liked it. he invited me to work and gave me as complete as blanche uh-huh to write whatever he wanted from this huge, whatever. this is the basin moment. yes, i even remember a little today with shame, this is because there was a certain hunter in it. azat did not like this, scolds of the left and the rights, but literary liberal, damn it, newspapers have always had this article. with a gun there famous about knowledgeable people still remember

a terrible man and a man swore about the khan to get him on the fence. or rather, the pen was, of course, wrong, but it seems to me, for a young critic. it's not bad. well, uh, after all, i don’t like it when young critics are so toothless, you have to be toothy after all, you have to be a little afraid to show you. and tell paul and the current criticism. doesn't she pretend to become directive again, that these are wrong, and read these correct ones, but you don't read these, all the same. it probably exists, of course, but it was it was even soviet years, what about today? i think it's a different problem. she hmm she reformatted with criticism. it seems to me that today she still leaves the blog, although they still somehow don’t want to recognize this critical blagosfera, strictly speaking, as criticism. to say because there are no criteria. yes, what i want to write here, it

really is the other way around. uh, a blogger is terribly dependent on his subscribers. they must like him in order to be able to create some kind of informational post, it is necessary artificial, if he has lured a certain number of subscribers. he he can't say things that they won't like. understandable, understandable, therefore, he , too, may be even more dependent than when i, for example, worked in a literary newspaper. it’s clear, but uh, i would sum up our conversation with a formula, the formula that uh , it’s not so important an evil critic or a kind one, it’s important that he’s good or sensitive or this is the property of many and many works of pavel basinsky, like criticism, we said, uh, at the end of our conversations about this, but in general , we have created such a very multifaceted and a unique portrait of a man who at the same time continues to engage in literary criticism. and he writes extensive books , first of all, alena nikolaevich tolstoy, although

not only the name of this person is pavel basinsky, we thank you for participating in our podcast. let them count. thank you see you again. thank you. thank you. i am pleased, and i tell our viewers my usual magic phrase , read it with pleasure. hello, today we gathered our thoughts about what a university is, why it is needed? he was well acquainted, just in case. i will say that today, in alphabetical order, alexey pavlovich kozyrev yegor borisovich prokharchuk, dean of the medica

faculty of biology of the remarkable second, as they say in the homeland of the medical institute , corresponding member of the russian academy of sciences, i am especially pleased to thank you very much. again, alas, vladimir is a lieutenant. well, what to do as time goes by, we do not change. and you know what i want to start this year in an educational lecture. uh, i started my students with a story that happened to me and i would really like it for you tell and listen to your comments say, suddenly called me says, listen, my daughter is studying. uh, at the university in one. well, somehow, i studied the first course, but something doesn’t go well. you could meet and talk to her. she might be for you. uh, girls will come to mgimo, well, 45, we said beautifully smart, bright and that's it. why do i say you want to leave your university? well, it didn't work out for me. no friends, no company, no nothing. and everything is around, yes, and i say, to us why, but i think he will say learn a language is

such a set of standard answers that we are used to hearing. but my friend is studying with you and with her and her friends are chic and everything is cool, and they spend time there wonderfully and so on, in short, word formation in 45 minutes of our conversation. knowledge to learn has not sounded even once the university has turned into a stage of socialization. motivation is destroyed today. really. here i am, that on the first of september i gave an introductory lecture as a dean. why is philosophy needed? today is a good topic, yes, but a question for me asked. and where will we go to work after the faculty of philosophy. i wanted to answer the world bank in the united nations but where you go to work depends on what you learn. what task did you set and then will. a philosopher has such a concept for a frying pan, just in case a frying pan has such a concept

of affinity, happy is the person who has found a related business in life, then you will learn , then this business will become your hobby and your passion and your sphere. e improvement. here are the questions. they ask the least and uh it seems to me that e is somewhat guided by the desire of the parents. how to form this motivation to gain knowledge, the school has worked very hard. in a negative sense, that is, this use system is where the senior classes are. uh, children don't study, they write samples. i used to think that the sampler is the kind of spirits that you have knowledge of. and today i came to school. i gave a lecture to scientists at the school, yes, if such a program, yes the government of moscow uh, children described a sampler tomorrow they will write, a sampler every week. they write to us probes. they are preparing for i do not

teach for two years. they don't study, they don't comprehend an astronomer, who is not at school at all. yes, now it is, but it is not separate. maybe we'll talk today. i’m looking at yegor boris so suhariz, probably, he doesn’t agree. here with such we catch romantic. well, to be honest, i don’t really understand what students want, because i have two children, two students. if you look more globally, then for me as a scientist and as a citizen. and i perceive the university. this as a kind of, in fact, a very complex bridge between the maintenance of tradition and progress, as if for me it is important. you see, this is how, on the one hand, you need to preserve the tradition. on the other hand, definitely move forward. i thought about it a lot, well, since dk is necessary somehow, well, to develop on the one hand, and on the other hand, the university, uh, in which, although not