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hello i'm larisa guzeeva this is a podcast of letters. my guest today is great galina konshina, a wonderful actress olga khokhlova, uh, we will talk about the fine ranevskaya about the greatest fairy ranevskaya, both actresses play in the faina raevsky theater we play my performance in different performances. i've been playing him for 10 years. just uh, it's a coincidence. and what about your gift paradydin? you could do it, one to one right on us like this. i don't make rapids. yes, i'm playing, playing she doesn't like this word, ranevskaya is my my nevskaya is a very touching eighty-six-year-old lonely woman who can no longer live in this world with her longing. i uh, remind the audience in some bits of uh action. replicas
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from her performances so that she was somehow recognizable, for example there. well, what a handsome man he is. well, how? well, i mean, uh, the audience will recognize me, but that's also her role. it's not her, it's her she is different. here she is, like in an interview with natalia krymova, the last one, very touching, i consciously leave this breed. well, uh, i have it only because you are not playing the artist, but the ranevskaya grati of a person. yes, and what is surprising is that the audience comes up, then they say, well, this is some kind of witchcraft, this is some kind of magic - especially one phrase that was expected from you, remind me of which you will do exactly one to one like ranevskaya said, this is beauty, yes, terrible
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power. and how are you? uh, well, basically, uh. yes i i'm doing it, but it goes there after such an irony that the theater is now . i'll go to the seaside and immediately hide in the dressing room. the artists will start running. and i myself will throw myself to someone. yeah, uh, give me a couple of pre-heart attacks, because beauty is a terrible force. how do i love you? oh, do you play? what e? i want to supplement what galya said in a performance based on the same play and i will hit the sura of the same person. lion's execution of the noisy great you both play the same mode. yes i'm playing. well, maybe
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she did. i passed her added, so to speak, jokes and so on. and we even have different names for faina's performances. and we have a lonely mocker, and well, as it were, why not? why, there are three sisters playing a lot of trumpets. right? of course, call me came up with. i, because the original name was i , stanislavsky's miscarriage, i did not want to and they say miscarriage, because it tastes good. thank you. in general, the first performer, and faina georgievna on stage. if you don't count korkoshka, svetlana ivanovna, who also plays the other one. thank you for defending the title, and i think, faina georgievna well, it seems to everyone that since she cursed, she was such an ulcer, but there was nothing about the past at all. eh, not one second. she had good taste. and she, uh, hmm, it was such a masterly presentation of everything. the first would say yes. yes, of course, well, i want to say
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about how to play one-on-one or not one-on-one, the viewer is waiting for ranevskaya, namely ranevskaya, that faina georgievna will be released now and, of course, we are obliged to convey that here we are playing ranev's one-on-one and always annoyed by applause for yours. when he finds out, yes, then the director staged this performance for me. it’s as if i’m going out for her, so that everyone knows and loves her, as if you know, as if you were like something ? remember again. and when she walks there between us between the audience, i just feel like her presence. it is sometimes present and such energy. it turns out that the viewer does not even need them anymore, they just listen and everything, you know, laugh and cry with us and therefore. the more ranevskaya e, the more performer nevskaya, the better, and
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i’m watching this one in the film, i want to tell you that i’m just waiting for every episode, because it doesn’t matter even i don’t find fault and don’t ask questions. i'm just glad and happy that i see the image of faina georgievna. i think that polina ranevskaya is already a myth. legend about her. so many overgrown with various. uh. they are as much written as we are. eh, we can hardly add anything. although i have there is one more story overgrown. how much is attributed to her. yes, there is such a phrase in the text. e in a dialogue with a friend. she says faina well, you just need to write down after you and i say ninochka. you know that they are already writing down the worst thing that they attribute. i don't know what i said anymore. i even arrest that. aristotle said yes, you see how we agreed in different ways. it's perfect. well
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, that sounds like a real talent. this is self-doubt and painful and dissatisfied with yourself and your shortcomings. what i never met with mediocrity. i don't recognize the word play you can play cards at horse races in checkers on stage. i need to live, i receive a letter. help me become an actor god will help. once she wrote it was ahmadulno, the more the name is famous, the more unrevealed it is, and here it is, one can say, at least nevsky , so that they don’t write after all, e, i’m defining it for myself. what is it here is this mystery is a mystery and what is the secret of such a long popularity in different countries and among a variety of people. bent over and got to know that charlie tea talent
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roosevelt, yes, yes, the president of the united states had the opportunity to watch the film dream is here, but therefore, for me, here, it seems to me, is the secret of this popularity in that extraordinary depth, which maybe not everyone even understands initially when they see her image of a human personality, so it goes through the screen through the frame, because the personality of the actor is everything to me even today, that's what i want to talk about. here's how she's beaten since childhood. she was an absolutely happy child, but with an exalted mother, of course this exaltation was passed on to her, with which she later flowed out. here, in her, in such some kind of depth, uh, in her curiosity for life, but it all comes from childhood, how she was not disappointed in humanity, how she did not disappointing. she after all by and large good, saw nothing, was disappointed. larisa she wrote, but still it didn't
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turn into hatred. she didn't. this is another disappointment. yes, not always carved into hatred. this is watery longing for those, uh, gone to akhmatova. in pushkin about about pushkin about this love and jealousy for natalya to his ex-wife. i hate his wife. he was looking for a duel, he says, she says, she simply hated natalya, as if she were alive, and they lived at the same time, and they lived in the neighborhood, and they had the only lover they fought for him. vk, she was interesting, after all, they lived in the wing , yes, which natalya goncharova lived from pushkin why didn’t she write about herself, yes , memories, memoirs are just memoirs , i don’t know, every cook writes about herself. just said it would be a book, complaints. yes, if will present requests to write about himself refusal. i don't want to write badly about myself , it's indecent. so we must be silent. i know the most
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important thing, i know what to give, not to take. so i live with this bestowal memories are the wealth of old age. if i gave in to requests, i began to write about myself. it would be a mournful book, for 3 years i wrote a book of memoirs, fasting 2,000 rubles on you. in order to purchase a warm coat. i guess i broke everything and the advance in vain. now we have to return. god bless them with the money i will collect, i will give an advance. well, this is how diaries are obtained, but she also wrote. uh, letters, maybe from childhood, that dad was a rich man, and she was, as it were, unloved in the family, because she was ugly, maybe it's girls. that's not how it happens. we are all mothers. why, when she writes that she is the daughter of a poor oilman. well, we understand the irony. anyway, for example, i don’t really believe that her parents directly told her in the eyes faina you are such an ugly
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girl bella was just very beautiful, yes, she accidentally heard her, random conversation between mother and father. this is a cottage. this is it, she already conveys it this way. well, how would we know because of her, which in fact. children are such dreamers, in fact, jewish, family, orthodox. eh, parents don't happen to be rich for the beauty of children they don't like, on the contrary, maybe the father is in himself with grief that he said to his mother poor well, how will she live? uh, how will she find you a husband? she also stutters to everything else. let's tell the audience, because of what she began to stutter, the actress herself felt she died at the age of five, little brother. i pitied him for a day, crying , and yet i drew aside the curtain on the mirror to see how unhappy she had become in tears. at the age of 6, the governess took me to a visiting menagerie. in a small room, a thin fox with human eyes was sitting next to me
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. there was a trough on the table, two tiny dolphins swam in it. drunken noisy ragamuffins entered , you became a dolphin's eye, from which blood spattered. now. i am 76 years old. all 70 years. i suffer from these. well, well, horror, but horror no, but this one characterizes her impressionability of such humanity. she began to stutter the same, yes since then. yes, she really was ready to give everything in relation to people. yes, being harassed at the elevator theatre. well, that's all too. we, to me, to someone, or vice versa, developed some kind of character in her. maybe through this pity some kind of pity. e to people, as to others. this is such a dramatic pity that this is what was expressed. here in some mm, perhaps,
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human love? yes, yes, yes, yes, it's so peculiar, love is a pity, love of course, here it is. uh, when she got paid. she sent money to her friends envelopes of an envelope in her salary. that's how it is, maybe a lot of people turned to her for help. she helped anyone. take take, i don’t need anything, he had a lot in the refrigerator, but from time to time some people came and took sausage from her there, i can’t. take the french perfume sent from paris, i don't need to take it, she said, but i'll die. uh, no one will ever know what good taste i had. eh, remember, yes, because well dressed. eh, hmm worse than mediocre all the time was in girlfriends lyubov orlova about whom she said in that wardrobe. e, in which they say would not have learned to fly. yes, there would be no more
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place and despite this character. this is love for people. she still experienced so much in her life in connection with this surname feldman and in connection with this. and that every time i filled out, but this e questionnaire, where it was necessary to fill out the fifth article. that's what a useful character that the soviets told him, that when she joked everyone laughed, but nearby young artists were sitting, and their backs were running from horror and admiration from this woman with an iron will. but who did she love, what do you think, well, except for her dogs, which she was simply betrayed, she bowed before kachalov. well, she pumped it, yes, and he heard and answered this love. well, not the love, probably, yes, that she expected from a man, but he knows she didn’t even expect it, to be honest, because
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she was such a pension there, because she already writes in the very first letter. she's in a swoon. she saw him and fell into fainting. in general, she remembers what she says, yes, it was very much about her darkness then . yes, i am very natural. i was born at the end of the last century, when there were fainting spells. i didn't like to faint. in addition, i never hurt myself, i tried to fall gracefully over the years, this hobby passed, but one of the fainting spells brought me great and long happiness . whom she was madly in love with. i collected it photos. wrote his letters. i never send them, hearing his voice, i fainted unsuccessfully and hurt me badly, they dragged me to a nearby confectionery and put me on
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a sofa. several years have passed, she took courage and wrote him a letter writing to you so, which is a countertop lane. once i heard your voice, i fainted. i am already an aspiring actress who came to moscow with the sole purpose of getting into the theater, when you will play another goal in life, i now do not have and will not have a letter. i remember writing it by heart a few days, otherwise the answer came very soon, dear. faina, please contact the administrator, who will have two tickets of your kachalov from this evening in your name. until the end of the life of this amazing artist, our friendship lasted, which i am very proud of and about the falls, and my mother and father feldman lived quietly in taganrog and with you the field mart the devil took moscow to become an artist, and she knocks money out of dad. my god, there were some fights, how then i perfectly knew how to faint. i then
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she was quite adept at fainting. that means that you fainted and gave money. and how many gave no? i had to crash down again and, for greater fidelity, knock the vase head down on the floor. i then did not breathe for about 10 minutes, he took out his wallet and published. well, her acting nature is a human tragedy. i can't imagine, for example, uh, one man's wife. i consider mother. yes, and i can't even imagine it. i'm not because she was insanely busy. there in the theater or in the cinema. she had a lot of free time. not that's how it was. sorry, because the grandson of shcheglov who are irina uh, they are wulf uh, that is, pavel leontiev. you are a teacher, the second mother, who was a daughter. and so, when she gave birth to alyosha
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shcheglov, she considered him her grandson, and moreover , she was a crazy grandmother, if he left somewhere she wrote a letter, how did you arrange it? e, alyosha this is a grandmother. eh, there ranevskaya writes. he says i was amazed. and i have, for example, there uh, in such a text. yes, i had to give birth to my grandson. hmm, there were no temporary children . the grandson gave birth to songs. you sang to him in the forest there was a christmas tree reading pushkin's fairy tales. so it could be. the fact is that the tragedy with marshal tolbukhin, who is not a legend. no , this is not a legend anyway, right? well, very deep, of course, no one held. well , why two adults with such respect, relating to each other, could have helped further, er, and there it already took shape. no, he was not married. he was the widower of his
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death. e brought her, in general, to a complete state. uh, the despair of loneliness and longing and all the kinship that went on like this until the end life. it could have been, but it didn't work out. she regrets it. she says, lord, yes, why is it like this all my life without a family, without children, without roles, like a cow in the wrong direction. for some reason. it would seem to me that this very consciously does not know what. yuri was drawing without showing a picture, you are seriously passionate about carlson, this is a cartoon for children from 3 to 7 years old. i'm trying to somehow justify my heroine. love for this fan makes an early woman out of an elderly sadist. head on the spot talked. i can't watch tv from morning to night. here
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with denis in the big game big bookmaker venline general partner of the russian premier league this is a letter podcast, we are talking about faina ranevskaya and i have two beautiful actresses galina finished and olga khokhlova gave roy i want to say that we are all dissatisfied with our acting fate, according to the laureate of three stalin awards, a number of states. yes, i am grateful to you that you say this faina georgievna was brezhnev loved listen, which, uh, yes, i pray, well, of course, who alone quoted. uh, molly, don't make me nervous. she said, well, leonidovich , well, tell me, i only know dryly that the boys call me that on the street,
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hooligans are not ashamed of you. yes yes, who would you be hooligans or yes. yes, there was respect, she herself with her own character. uh, well, a little bit about myself. spoiled. you could say, of course, of course. actors that it is not always possible to say everything, what did you think of the truth? yes, of course, and many had a hard time with her straightforwardly. what did she say to zavadsky? yes? yes, yes, once yuri zavadsky shouted in the hall to the actress faina georgievna, you gobbled up all my directorial idea with your acting, here i have a feeling that i ate shit, parried ranev with the ecstasy of the billab muzzle to all hacks, and i endure i endure ignorance i endure lies, i endure a miserable existence. uh, half-assed i endure and i will endure until the end of my days i endure even the royal saying from the factory, generated by her friction on professional grounds. with yuri zavasky. you know what
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zavodskoy dreams about. he dreams that he is already buried in the kremlin wall. well, craving for glory that is, she allowed herself something that none of us can afford, really, imagine that her beloved, she thought so, that's her daughter. e, wulf pavel leontievna. she was married to zavadsky, and he left her. she took it as a mother and married a sailor, or something like that. in general, on this one, which has crooked legs and it’s just, well, like a horse on a race, that is , you understand, and she, as a mother, could afford a rather sharp expression, who would like it young actors. uh, scared scared at everything said my boy. this is her eh. e hmm strong human. she immediately identifies bad people, and he starts barking at them. the horror was in the theater when this dog entered and approached everyone, everyone expected that
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now she was barking and everyone would understand that it was dangerous for a young actress or a young actor in disfavor in my st. george, whom she could tell everything about his talent. it's in such complexes. you can drive. a person is either from the roof or from the profession, you understand forever the test, what test you will pass or not pass, this is stupid, because talented people are great geniuses, they always notice talented people anyway, and yet. first, they will try to what extent he will endure their mockery, and then with her lover, how were they afraid of her? once , on the set of her permanent make-up artist, either he fell ill, or simply did not come one way or another. in place. he was gone after a solid scandal. ranevskaya agreed to replace a timid, modest young girl just after graduation. yes, and so i was in a swoon from the consciousness of who i would have to work with, and this scandal, even before the channel , is final, obviously. i wish to cheer up
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the newcomer, ranevskaya decided to talk to her about married life, she asked if she was not timidly risking, the girl approved the risk well. faina georgievna, i remember when in odessa they deprived me of my innocence and screamed. so the cities fled, you in general, she has such a phrase whip. this is just an excerpt, and about love, about that, when they were deprived of their virginity, everything that happens in bed has nothing to do with love. that is love. here, for example, with the marshal. um, it doesn't necessarily have to be that they had some, maybe they had a platonic love. and this is quite possible. she is olya, even i am already at that age when you understand that e bed love is generally different incarnations one to the other. in general , it has nothing to do with it. yes it it’s even harmonious that you don’t have your age in such an enemy, he tells me. i adore you, and you will be desired at any age.
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thank you very much, yes, i asked, but i really understand that all my life i have been married to those with whom i was torn apart, from whom i wanted to give birth. that's who in bed with. i ran to marry them, and i thought it was love. well the truth is, this love has nothing to do. oh well, okay, let's, we're still talking about love. uh, about that pinpoint whom, uh, i used to love to say love to orlov lyudmila but also her love. she was a little offended when alexandrov invited her to the role of mother there. he said how we are with any of the same age. it's just that she attributed 10 years of her own there. and i'm a fool, it's only been two years, everyone who loved me didn't like me. and whom i loved did not love me, who would know my loneliness. damn this same talent that made me unhappy my appearance spoiled my personality lonely
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mortal anguish. i am 81 years old. i'm sitting in moscow summer i can't leave the dog, they rented me a house for the city out of the toilet in may years. maybe one lover's homemade closet old age this is just a testament. i believe that this is the heaven of god when he allows you to live to old age, lord already everyone is gone. and i still live. it seems to me that a lot here again i say it was exaltation, a lot was invented. i want to tell you now it's scary, but look, but today psychologists are working. yes, there you never know what happened to you, there is such an opportunity and the psychologist explains everything to you about himself. and you kinda think the truth is i'm bipolar disorder, i am mentally unbalanced person. well, well, really, i just don't know. no, i just don’t know about myself . they prescribe you some pills. you become, you stop cutting yourself more evenly , you stop tearing yourself, your nails stop eating yourself, because they gave you the plates , they explained to you that this is not.
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you don’t need anything terrible there with a blanket, but at night under the pillow i think that it’s somehow not like that. just a little correction for you. i think that e fine georgievna also had some problems. well, that's such a psychological property and tenant today, of course it would be. eh, they would correct it. she would tell you i want to tell you the first half of the letter, which marilyn monroe could have written in the same way i am lonely and my appearance is to blame for everything, because height is also literally a terrible force. here is a terrible force, and it is tearing there, and there, that is, uh, this letter. i thought this was a letter. i don't know, here's the artist to well, not as outstanding appearance, well, they are also lonely, but it happens. they have some random men even somehow manage to get from one of them the parents of the child and live and understand.
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well, like my mommy, she talked all the time, according to her clothes, stretching her legs. well, yes, well , so that's nature to me, too. here today gave here well to go mad. i still want from you what was? eh, what's the matter? why was faina georgievna so lonely and why did she consider herself such an unfortunate choice. it is mine. ah, such a belief. this is her choice. uh, people are getting more and more annoying. and the less i communicate with them, the better i feel, because that, in fact, the people she loved are no longer there, they are all there, and here she says, it’s hard for me to be a genius among the boogers, that is , she felt herself aware that she, of course, and now, when i get used to her, uh , i have another longing here, which i also have. hmm,
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for those whom i loved madly. now i can't love madly. i can tolerate someone. here you go. and i want it to be like that, because when it was impossible to live without it, and she, as an actress, she didn’t get it galina and some questions, some questions answered themselves. well, uh, well, as if, trying on a role, i’m immersing myself, and in the history of the name of george, something in your particular life has changed, for example, it’s easier or vice versa, or in general, something went on for some then the tenth plan. in general, of course, as a system of values, somehow, uh, something has changed. no, i'm just amazed at how similar we are, i apologize for such a comparison, because for those who, uh , don't know me well, because i, too, uh, there are madly in love with the theater and nothing in life. when i hear that some actress says i was walking by with my girlfriend. and here we are. i
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feel bad at heart, because i didn’t want to see anything else in my life. i really love theater. and if i don't go on stage, i'm dead, i would be golden. my god, that's why you play ranevskaya, because the nature of the psychophysicist has fallen. yes , you can’t run into the theater with a kandachka, you can’t play it, and then you can’t bring it to a restaurant with a girlfriend. yes, and so i say that yes, they offend me. u directors who tell me there, you are a comedian. you do not you can play some there, well, i think it's so stupid. uh, i say i'm uncomfortable too, because i'm constantly bringing my lyrics to the director. i say, it seems to me that right here, right there, inviting me there , right there, lord, there was a movie recently. e for the role of concierge. i say ok. i 'm ready because uh, anything but shamelessness, it just isn't there. no, i say, come on, everything will play characteristically. come on, it will be an oriental woman
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obeys. he is now so much everywhere like this role turned out due to the character galina you understand that the actress who plays the main role of the beauty who passes by the concierge should be remembered, and you are not the only one in this film, but the director didn’t tell you, wait, the film is not about you, therefore, the answer to georgievna’s sermon is the same she played zinka this speculator, yes, there is coral in the kremlin chimes . yes, she said, i will find you and kill you, if this is in a dream in the film, and she played in the theater. yes, she , uh, people came to watch. the first action, go or leave at all, and he removed. the performance answered questions. why do they say so? so? thank god, because i, too, literally, even in a big difference, have such a regime as which has now become
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something galina well, you hide behind your back, because they only look at you. go to the background. please leave such a glory here, god is the role. thank you for writing it. she became so bright that the advertisement of this film was only with me. but today the directors will watch our podcast. well, just by chance, you know, everything is in life, accidentally saw and said, lord a. i'm a fool, it's been five more years. let's look like that, and you are muscovites and i'm not. we all came to college with three kopecks. and you lived in hostels and i lived lived without money. yes, we didn’t know what would happen after the institute , there were periods when there were no roles, men abandoned us. come on, really , that is, there is nothing in the biography of faina georgievna that would directly strike me, and i would say, my god, how did she survive it, i would not have survived.
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