terribly exciting. after all, you just can’t stop reading and, most importantly, in the end you sympathize, even with these murderers, of course, they are still bastard bastards, there and so on and so on , but you just understand how they became such scum. do you understand logic ? yes and at this moment you embrace real horror, because in a different logic and in other patterns. these are the same guys. could be, i don't know , polar explorers, space explorers, uh, pilots and testers. yes, well, one. thank you for talking. thank you. oge. this the podcast was a must-read. i'm purulent. batnikova director writer, host of podcasts today we discussed putin's tomorrow this is the famous romance of the novel bonnets with vadim the elemental.

my guest today is the wife of georgy ivanovich burkov tatyana and the daughter of georgy ivanovich maria, who with such trepidation with such tenderness with such reverence with such respect for the father of a worthy person. i don’t know the best of the best actor , you can’t even imagine how glad i am to see you, i saw you , dear 40 years ago, yes, horror on filming cruel romance. i remember such a beautiful young woman who, with tears in her eyes, came up to me and said, i'm afraid there are such actors and such a beauty around. don't be afraid, you're not afraid of anything. and you know what was amazing, and georgy ivanovich was an extraordinary storyteller, extraordinary. well, they all had such an experience behind them , and nikita mikhalkov and andrei

myagkov, the deceased, and they all the time gathered and georgy ivanovich or one of them told the bike. i did not laugh so much and not i so wanted to be in this cell and i so wanted to warm these ears and not like that, and they chased me all the time, because i should be in character. i have to be demanding all the time. and i was so interested in what georgy ivanovich was telling, and i was right there. i’ll run up, that’s all, i’ll hear enough of us to go. yes, they chased me all the time and didn’t want to impress georgy ivanovich at all either. and our neighbor then came from the army , did not come and ran away and hanged himself in the kingdom of heaven, but came up and said. and we have a neighbor hung up for some reason. imagine such a fool, i wanted to. so you can change the impression so that they don’t tell me about some good one. come to us. you, too, will listen and participate. there

were good times, there were good times. remember the filming is very, very good artists around the time is good and absolutely amazing guzeeva of course. oh well, okay, now it’s not about me, but do it anyway. tell me please. so, when vasya ratel both little tanya, who had 17 years old, georgievich, the difference, no, 13, how many you were years old when you left, when i was gone, 44, that is, by today's standards, this is a young woman who is ready to get married for the first time and the parents of a child. that's what i promised today. i didn’t even imagine myself as a disappearing husband to leave something like that in general i didn’t imagine any other men. but then let's digress into the past look when you met. you were 18 years old. yes? i lied that i was 21. that's how i added

everything they reduced. i said that he was 15 years old, well, 40 kg, and his height was 56 kg. this one here is a girl with eyes on a stick. uh, who saw whom first? yes, but i kind of saw it, yes, in the theater at the blackboard, the schedule, but roughly speaking, i didn’t immediately see it, but they showed it. hmm, all the young actors were sitting and then yours came. well, they laughed. he was so funny it was impossible. it’s just that these little glasses are like this red sweater, but there’s no such thing, he had a purple jacket in a mother’s check and looked. so this whole schedule is like that. well, that is, no. no no no no no no it's that i don't care for you feel that this is my man. here, right? oh

yes, you are dying. yes, when it happened to you, when it happened between me, i can’t say, right away, it wasn’t there right away no, it wasn’t right away right away, it wasn’t right away. well, it was different. for some reason i'm all laughing. and for some reason, i took off. this is some kind of feeling i can’t, what happened? maybe i 'll explain now, i can't be you, that's it , he was a man, by the way, he was straight. a man is a man, until the last days, someone even came up with this legend about his ugly. not i know for me, he is absolutely naked sex with these lips with these olive eyes, tall and slender, and here for me you are just two e sexy people who could not be together, but now, if you watch today yes, well, look, then he was the first to see you and said, come with me tan, well, he didn’t tell him so with his eyes. what happened, and we went together, but we walked for a long time for two months. i must tell him . despite the fact that we were there, and he threw away some money on my mother’s, he led me

to prague, this is where i said on my birthday, when i said that i have 21, and i need to turn less in a year, then and then we went to this. there, too, there were some and another, and still we walked hand in hand. and then one unexpected day it happened, that's what we are talking about now, it turned out to be. it’s easy for them, but belmondo you already knew that there was something like that, everything was pasted over, and he told you, let’s go to me, i’ll show you how i live in such a horror where he rented a room somewhere on the baumansky wreck next to the room some kind of drunkard is very unclear who and he banned me from a good family. yes, pure immaculate activity. i have been in the theater since i was 15 years old. well, i do not know what came here vicious 19-year-old girl want, yes, what do

you want? speak well, as a matter of fact, she came, but not one of the secretaries of the komsomol organization was with me, and i, of course, who fled. yes, yes, from this room, when we entered his room, it was clean, there was even yogurt with a book , a very funny room. and this is the one we entered, but we already had a little drink there wto. he celebrated some kind of extras there, he received his ruble 50, and we went in there and our secretary immediately faded away and he didn’t like the neighborhood , he was afraid that there would be some kind of scandal there would be something and left from there drunk person. here, who asked him a room there, and he means to me, he says, let's get out of here quickly. now there is some kind of scandal, and i read it remained. and why until the morning, right? and it happened so instantly here about this is for any absolutely goosebumps. listen on the skin, well here didn't predict anything at all. tell me, please, and you, the girl tanya, who

didn’t spend a single night in her girl’s room, didn’t come home, poor parents come in the morning. he said marry me. i said yes, and then he said he loved it. uh, some milk. with cocoa, or something like that, they used to sell an iron grandmother, and i went and bought milk, my good one. and then she called her grandmother and said, grandma, i was with you. she did not resist the lies, the lies began. yes, but what to do? as i explain, i'm coming wedding day to give tribute. yes, but the parents were not. after all, no one is yours or his. tell us about your first meeting with his mother. well, why wasn't she? yes, yes, it was very it was very terribly nightmarish and funny. it's so funny to me now. no , it’s funny now, then i don’t think that for a nineteen-year-old child it’s, well, in the throat. i was so in love that somehow my mother seemed not so terrible to me, but i

seemed terrible to her and you don’t meet anyone at all. you meet at the pen. they are at i have such pigtails. well, such knotted ones were magpies, yes, and it’s funny to say , but my mother sent her son to moscow. the artist of the great, who went through the whole province there , played and to say that his mother loved him adored, in general it is deadly. yes, yes, and she is his, at least he will marry there. well on someone, well i don't know. well, yes, well, i don’t know, well , yes, vertinskaya, yes, yes, a beauty, of course, so portly, as she herself was so all over and suddenly she sees it. here she, probably, saw, in general, horror. i guess i'm not so terrible was, but she saw the nightmare and we can and went, she hugged him. and what did you say to him? and i went ahead. i understood, i didn’t even just say hello, and then, when we had already arrived home. i would have said that either i or she is, and i have a letter. can i apply? well, it was written much later, but it's his yes, oh, love and connection with

his mother. by the way, he didn’t deny it, he just called it so strongly that i was a sissy , right? my dear, mommy, you know that my mother's boundless love for you, who gave birth, raised me and just to a person worthy of respect and admiration for decency, kindness and a lot of other wonderful qualities. know that love has always lived for you and will live in me until the end of my days i am proud and i will always be proud of you. i want to be worthy of you in my life and love you and miss you. i constantly think about you and you know, i would never have become an actor, if not, you praise me precisely for what you put into my soul , your wrinkles, your gray hair, your planted heart. here is my school. here are mine universities are all word for word. i could repeat it to dad, because you are one for me, you are my home, you are in my land, you are my

homeland, you are my soul. lord, what a gentle, what a loving what a wonderful son, then he became the same wonderful father to a crazy wonderful husband. and when this happened , the truce with your mother-in-law was not soon, but she arrived, well, she looked at her granddaughter. she left immediately. i made these diapers myself. diaper night, well, i must say that all the difficult relationships with her were, but man, she it was difficult, but very good, and it’s not without reason that he loved so kindly, and he found some moments here. he loved her loved me and we never had sharp corners with her. i don’t understand such love for my son, when georgy ivanovich said that you are one organism, a whole, and he loves you endlessly. she had to accept. she didn't

realize she was causing him so much pain. the wildest thing he said to her, i'm on them. yes, he told her right away, mom. i love you. i don't like it. i do not want to lose, neither you nor her, she will remain. those were the words when she i left, now for perm, but then it seems to me, it is still inside. she was just such a person, she can not show that she resigned herself to something there. but if you jump over all this like this and say that she was dying in my arms after seven years, she was gone. uh, georgy ivanovich and she was there all the time. but this, perhaps , will say something, she was dying, right with such kindness in her eyes with kindness, she left. masha how old were you when you were left without a father, 24, well, tell me how lucky you were with lucky to be daddy. i think that just a sock was lucky that i even had to be kicked out of my house. some of the years were difficult. i am a home child. absolutely

domestic not izmolennyy child. that's what i even understand, now that's how they didn't have time at all. it's like i didn't have it, well, every evening after the performance, he always found it. here i am small, and he played, tickled me. we came up with some fairy tales and drew them for me, that is, i’m insanely tired, as it were, i ’ll definitely read it now. and you have it a letter with a picture? therefore, you will show okay , masha, now mom and dad disperse at the subway in different directions every morning, even the sun is surprised and surprised. his eyes widen. dad goes to the sovremennik theater and mom goes to the stanislavsky theater, but when they get together in the evening, she misses you, but it was for some time when he once worked for sovremennik yes, nothing more is needed in life. he loved such happiness. and how much

i will give you, this is the same letter that i read, only it is written by hand, georgy ivanovich in perm, after this letter , we will make him an offer of the hand of the heart. i somehow already, when i started to think something, and you can see from thinking, it became immediately in love. i loved him very much and for me somehow it was something more than dad. this is something so big and mine and beloved. and so, when i was already a little older, i began to say that in the elevator, moreover, he was such a shy, insanely shy person. so and i said this, what to say, well, if some kind of snot is eight years old there are seven, how much am i i’ll marry you,” he said, and now i remember how he reacted. he so mashenka cheated mom to ask, so he dumped it on

his mother all the time. no, well, of course, what to say, but for the car. i think the first love of a daughter is always with girls. this is her father, of course, with the departure of her father, she generally has a life. as if, i’m even very worried, she completely lost the platform , lost some kind of walk from under her feet i have. well, so that uh, mom, he asked me to get me with her husband. this is how he doesn't like it. well, of course. and what did i like? just such a father's jealousy, or there were objective reasons, there were reasons, well, he was always right. he has a reason , he already sees at once everything a person saw at once and well, who listens to us parents? no, of course, the essence of stupidity is some kind of parents. so, uh, zhorik was born. dad did not

become in the ninety, and zhurik for the ninety- second and in the same hospital, where in what place hmm where did zhorik give birth in june with her husband? tanya, you're not married, are you? no way didn't come out. officially, there is no such bar. i have a single husband. it seems to me that he still sees nearby, well, the first will be the stations. i am very pleased the only person who did not call me mumiy. but this is because i always like you more

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and these are the letters that i wrote touring. i even understood everything. i was starting to get angry that he didn’t send any money there, that i want to eat here. just elementary. and there were such yes and i take here this letter. and now i even remember how i read, i read, i read. and it seems like

my girl wants to eat already. i'm waiting for him, when he arrives , it's funny, were you jealous of him? well, like all young people, composition is in the eye of the beholder. here everyone saw the ugly one saw that he was perfect, that he was infinite beauty. yes, i'm everything. it seemed to me that all the women around here. right now, the crowd will follow him. they walked. here i am mikhail's pig later, when he became famous. it's like i was told by some sly how you do it in general, she was cunning, yes, nikolaine, the yard ruble 50 there was nothing jealousy there was jealousy. yes, i remember, he even has a scratch on my cheek. one well, as i say, the owner is young. here he is. he is my husband, which means that i should know everything, every minute he came somewhere. well, it took me a long time because he gave. i very quickly understand that it’s impossible to do this, and i quickly realized it. and now the scratch, which has already gone down in

history, he starred there and was so proud of it that this is the only thing now, you probably turn away. yes, when you look at me i watch with pleasure. now jealous. yes, that's so serious, he never showed views. but when he died, i was able to read these diaries, and when i compiled the book, i found everything there. this is a creepy post. i sobbed so. i cried so much and thought, what a bastard i am, how could i behave like that, and he writes in detail, how he, what he experienced at some point when he came to the performance there. something there , how many years after his death were you able to read? well, i have read this. well, right away , probably right away. i immediately wondered that this is all and therefore i'm already somewhere in the ninety- first. i already have it all. i began to collect all these

notes. these were tiny records separately, then this book was preserved, yes, it’s not even half as difficult to work with it. i just remember how one actress is quite famous. she just approached me. she gave someone a creative evening, hugged me and said, tanka food, you can’t even imagine how much i envy you that for so many years he was your husband. he is such a. here, i'm so proud too, although i don't know what's nice, and georgy ivanovich never during or after no bad fame, he was a worthy person, and you are chaste and shy, and the fact that you don’t have these spots on you that doesn’t come to you is illegal. born children that they come do not call. women don’t tell you that he had a family somewhere in parallel, you understand? no, here is the most worthy in everything. and how he

left such a memory of himself, he says, bright memory. here is a blessed memory. yes, what should you look for? well, on the other hand , a kiss, of course, would be, maybe, it seems, and you would have been built by now. well, yes, i know that i will die, as everyone will not live forever, not literally, nor figuratively, and the saddest thing is that in old age you will understand how you really need to live, but there is no longer an opportunity to replay again in life. no need to set up. we live among people, we are born like everyone else, but why are we artists? why should we be responsible for everyone? i am an artist. i burned myself by vocation for the sake of people feeling covered with strong moss, you can’t break through it. maybe one artist, he is alive, but he is a suicide bomber. have pity on him. understand it. he's coming

to death. for you. for everyone. everyone has learned to speak, holy words are not easily protected by an artist. he believes that he is believed, he loves and eats, pretending to be a lot of them, but the artist is alive until you take care of him , life and you will go with him. take care of everything, of course, but he came across when but such things were things here, when he didn’t drink about what he drank, he yes drank, but when he comes up to you, uh, a partner in the theater threatens you with a finger. look, zhora. we're going on tour, you're zhora, who was not such a light alcoholic at all, is also suitable. he couldn’t stand this, yes, yes

, he did it, then he turned to me and said, buy a bottle. well, it hurts, and who were these artists , these directors? who were you yourself, yes, who could. could they threaten this with a finger? i know that tanya understands zhorit, what kind of zhorik is he to you, will you forgive? first, how much zhorik read here. you first gain the mind of reason, divorce your soul, just like here the priest whose finger forbade this with his finger , and then you know how he will become attached to the actor. here is something like that. you won't wash off afterwards get rid of. yes, you don’t need to shoot, because there is one artist girlfriend about me, and they asked questions. is it true that, well, they drink guzeev there? she said, well, listen, we are friends, what i will tell you about her. well, see for yourself, well , it's not scary to take it off. well, i love her anyway. i understand, here i am, at least one

filming, someone will say, at least one day. uh, filming was interrupted. i ’ve been late for a minute, sometime, but once i’ve already become attached. that's something you'll never wash off, you know? well, he, of course, lives for him, who could not, you understand? here is it like how much he drank. i think that nikita sergeevich mikhalkov drank no more and no less, but he would have the appearance and become and the origin of some sergeevich yes, who would you ever dare, and here it seems that you obviously understand everything, what would i send such a simple such voluntarily, then they accepted it, but about their resentment as an actor can’t people really understand my acting theme, not even the theme, but rather the method, if my performance, anna drinks all the time and that’s it. time is active. it doesn't mean that i decided to make the viewer laugh and that's it. no a thousand times. no, i'm talking about the struggle for human dignity, and

human talent. no matter how mutilated, no matter how spoiled he was, if i caught up with the psychological complexity or ambiguity? i would be read, but i don't want to be thin to read. i don’t want to designate a living person with primitive theatrical badges , we live and only live, in no case should we squeeze a living person into the image he played brilliantly. this first work in the theater was a river, while he did not have a higher acting education. and he acted in films, played in the theater, a nugget tells me about this, he did not have an acting school, when they taught this technique, the encyclopedic was such, as it were, education. it's just that he wrote to me there, what can i say, uh, all sorts of essays, while i was studying at the shchukin school. now don't be afraid to talk. he, uh, in general, the person was very educated, and not around. they are

an educated person. they would not gather in a circle. i’m saying it again, nikita sergeevich, petrenko, they all adored him, but they didn’t, because he jokes are good. well, you're funny, you know, it would be about the clown, by the way, i remembered the story when you were young and very poor, but there was already a rumor in moscow, that you are so funny talented, and it was a pity there was nothing. tell me how you were invited to the parsley company, it's funny for food. yes, yes, yes we once in some company of artists. e, we were sitting there, the artists were just familiar and in the process he began to tell something, well, about the dog and everyone calmed down and it was so interesting. here, i tell it, everyone began to laugh, simply. well, and then got drunk. i was forced to tell a lot, and i only had a tower, we are a swindler. how to tell a fable at school is generally indecent, but since i looked very decent, and not everyone

laughed like that. well, simply, and now they began to transfer us, as if from the hands of some of their acquaintances. the calls are already becoming. there, pasha said that they were visiting. pasha said. you will come to us, there will be a company there, we will go, we don’t have money, we’ll devour him, so, yes, there were several times, but then we became friends with neighbors already it was so funny. they fed us. there was a difficult period. masha and whose character do you have more than mom's or dad's? here, tell this story, how you, standing up for dad, attacked a nurse, so i set the story, but i tell it among my own, of course. he will tell you sharply, of course, but he ended up lying in the myasnikovsky institute of cardiology. they sent him there and immediately put him in uh , he ended up in intensive care, in short, we went crazy, because my father is in intensive care, what is it, and we could only come to him

we were allowed to see him by the doctors. well, somewhere it was already closing, all the same, there and downstairs at the checkpoint i was sitting. this is some kind of red wig like this, well, as usual, a woman. not young and said that you came moved late. but if you don’t manage it in 5 minutes, then i won’t let you in anymore. well, we somehow yes, yes, yes, yes, we did not expect that she, here we are, yes, yes, yes, that she will do it, and he came out to us. i just bit my cheeks so bloody. it's simple, because he came out so green all over with these wires. and that's where the ear was heard. what in general it was no one. he was so we were just medicine for him, and suddenly it flies. eh, aunt some kind of aunt. why are doctors silent? how is it yelling? you and yells precisely father? i saw right. here it is from him to you. you will no longer see in your relatives. i'm just quoting verbatim. dad almost cried. he says

wait. what and why? it has become already. mom, come on, i'll take everything. come on, we really are there, that's all, but i saw him walk just right here, i think if he will reach this one hanging on strings, that's bright me right here, as if some kind of curtain was the anger of some kind of terrible anger. absolutely. i think now it will take a lot. i already somehow and there are huge these flights of stairs are huge. well, the building is. that's what my mother collected. so, it's yours, let's go, and we just got in. here's the flight of stairs. i don't remember myself. i grabbed her robe against the wall like this, well , there's some kind of scum, because if he was just pyotr sergeevich some kind of there, you know from the fifteenth motor depot. why would she need to find out? and she probably all my life my wife tells me. and what is

an artist? i said five minutes and that's it and you never see us again, i said. well , how to rise against the backdrop of the great, to show your disgusting power, you know, i hate it more than just two girls, i was terribly offended. i asked. i say, well, yes, she simply couldn’t take me away, because the aunt had still run upstairs, ran, there the doctors were crazy, i was crazy for her, so there mom me. well, it was. well, is that all my car is shaking, i cry, and then only they, like a show, but they just need a daughter. if these were obloids, yes, burkov's daughter allowed herself a scandal. oh, girls, and there is no one to intercede, right? yes , they also made me apologize, the dumplings did not apologize, well, in the doctor's office, she said, i broke loose. yes, well, there was a reason, that's on dad.

the main thing is that it did not affect. it doesn't. they are also vengeful. i asked her to speak there. i say call immediately. how could he possibly die. now it's, well, unprotected, how to tell everyone what she wrote about. so when i left i knew leaves. i was at his hospital the night before. he escorted me out so that i could go home after the operation for a day, and he, well , so that i could go home for a shower there, well, something like a rest. i didn’t go, and suddenly he started talking to me in a strange way , began to say things that, in general, he could not say for anything. i suddenly realized that something was wrong, something was not necessary, and i said, already break up. what is the main health. yes, stop forgetting everything. i asked for forgiveness. yes, well, there for some very

important things. yes, even, well, it means that they were important for him, so he lived with this pain. and here he is, and as if i had already come home, i think something is wrong. well, something is wrong, and i rushed straight early in the morning and that's it. understood, then look at me. all these in the elevator are strange, well , the actress larisa, you know how it happens? we all eyes feel at once that something is not looking right. not so these are somehow strange, said hello. i all went to the room. everything was already collected there. well, it was not the end yet, he ended up in the intensive care unit of cardiology and in dentistry in cardiology. well, there to the evening is gone, tan what do you regret most of all. well, in general, we parted a little, and i went to the shooting with him all the time, he is with me, yes, and now i regret that we still parted, where was it once why

he went to sovremennik for a season . somehow we had a hard time in this and why are we doing this for some reason? why do you need this? now, of course, do not return. i regret you so much, and the lost months of some days are true mash and you offend him, but offended him. yes, adolescence was terrible terrible. i had a terrible temper these are some complexes of their own, but it’s all at home, i didn’t want you to go to acting, i didn’t want fate. you know, my daughter is entering the first year, and she herself entered , no one called anyone anything. ask your dad for forgiveness for something.

for not obeying, but in the main thing in the main thing she believed, but then look at something here, well, you see, the verb believed, it’s good to obey, it’s bad, because if a girl always obeys her mother, father, grandmother, grandfather, then she will obey the husband of the boss, the neighbor 's girlfriend, and so on, therefore, but smart parents. they note at home that yes, nerves are shaking, but don't listen to the eggs, it's good. you heard him. look, she saved the letters of the note. you understood this love , you accepted it and gave it yourself, tell me, your son looks like georgievich, the most interesting thing is that his behavior is similar in manners, you understand? there is no blood, girls. well, he's right here, i don't know where. he is truly a mother. here she is crying. here, lord, i can, when i see him,

he even fits. like this. quiet, it will do, that's when it will start moving. which happiness, this is for you zhora his georgy ivanovich mov sent girls. you can say that you are absolutely happy women. no, i can say that i am happy, because the lord is here for me. i don’t know how it somehow happened that this feeling of love. yes, i'll get it here, maybe it's a meeting. here with zhora, this feeling just appeared, but it is still there , this all-encompassing feeling of love. but today you feel that he is with you. now that he is protecting you. yes, they didn't stop. i mean, we were, of course, for a while. just here in this life. that's generally outside, that is , it's some kind of not even stress. and it’s as if we were just cut into pieces, cut into pieces, so much more i want to remember everything and

read and talk over. i think that you will still come, girls, yes, and we will talk, true, and in connection with georgy ivanovich, you just chat like that. thanks larisa. thank you took mine. and it was a podcast of writing. my name is larisa guzeeva and i have two wonderful guests maria burkova and tatyana burkova thank you.