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galina konshina, a wonderful artist olga khokhlova, we will talk about the fine ranevskaya about the greatest ranevskaya, both actresses play in the fain ranevsky theater. we play in different performances my performance. i've been playing him for 10 years. just uh, it's a coincidence. and what about your gift paradydin? you could have done it, one to one, just like that, i don’t make thresholds for us. yes, i play, i play. she doesn't like that word. my ranevskaya, netherskaya. this is a very touching eighty-six year old single woman who can no longer live in this world with her longing. i remind the audience in some bits and pieces of the action. replicas from her performances so that she is somehow recognizable, for example, there. well,

what a beautiful apollo belvedere ugh parasite and or something else. well, how? well, i mean, uh, the audience will recognize me, but those are also her roles. it's not her, but she's different. she's like me in an interview with natalya krivym and the latter is very touching, i consciously leave this breed. well, uh, i have it only because you are not playing the artist, but the ranevskaya grati of a person. there is a person, right? and what's surprising is that the audience come up, then they say, well , this is some kind of witchcraft, this is some kind of magic, especially one phrase that was expected from you, remind me of which you will do exactly one to one like ranevskaya said, this is beauty, yes, terrible power. and how are you? uh, well, basically, uh. yes, i

'm doing it, but it goes there after such an irony that the theater is now . i'll go to the seaside and immediately hide in the dressing room. the artists will start running. and i myself will throw myself to someone. yes, uh, i'll arrange a couple of pre-heart attacks, because beauty is a terrible force. how do i love you? oh, do you play? what e? i want to supplement what galya said. the performance is based on the same play and directed by the same person , leo's execution of the noisy great, you play in the same mode. yes i'm playing. well, maybe she is. i add my own jokes, so to speak, and

so on. and we even have different names for faina's performances. and we have a lonely mocker, and well, as it were, why not? why, there are three sisters playing a lot of trumpets. right? certainly, call me thought up. i, because the original name was i , stanislavsky's miscarriage, i did not want to and they say miscarriage, because it tastes good. thank you. in general, the first performer, and faina georgievna on stage. except for the karkashka, svetlana ivanovna, who also plays the other one. thank you for defending the title, and i think, faina georgievna well, it seems to everyone that since she swore, she was such an ulcer, but there was no vulgarity at all. eh, not one second. she had good taste. and she uh, hmm it's so virtuoso everything was presented. the first would say that this is of course, well, i want to say about how to play one-on-one or not one -on-one, the viewer is waiting for ranev’s exactly ranev’s,

that faina georgievna will come out now and, of course, we are obliged to convey that we are playing ranevskaya is exactly one to one and is always annoyed by applause for yours. when he finds out, yes, then the director staged this performance for me. it’s as if i’m going out for her, so that everyone knows and loves her, as if you know, as if you were like that whether? remember again. and when she walks there between us between the audience, i just feel like her presence. it is sometimes present and such energy. it turns out that the audience doesn’t even need to, they just listen and that’s it, you know, they laugh and cry with us and that’s why. uh, the more ranevskaya, the more performers ranevskaya, the better, and i’m watching this one in the film, i want to tell you that i’m looking forward to every episode, because it’s

not important even i don’t find fault and don’t ask questions. i'm just glad and happy the fact that i see the image of faina georgievna i believe that faina ranevskaya is already a myth , a legend, and not so much overgrown with various ones. yes , they are written so much that we like. eh, we can hardly add anything. although i have one story still overgrown. how much is attributed to her. yes, there is such a phrase in the text. e in a dialogue with a friend. she says faina well, you just need to write down after you and i say ninochka. you know that they are already writing down the worst thing that they attribute. i don't know what i said anymore. i even arrest that. what did she say aristotle yes? see how we are different. well, of course, it's perfect. well, as if these are definitely talents, this is self-doubt and

painful and dissatisfied with oneself and one's shortcomings. which i have never met immediacy. i don't recognize the word play you can play cards at horse races in checkers on stage. i need to live, i receive a letter. help become an actor answers. god will help. once she wrote it was arrogant, the more famous the name, the more it is not guessed, and now this can be said by the name of ranevskaya so as not to wrote all the same, eh, i'm defining for myself. what is it here is this? mystery is a mystery and what is the secret of such a long popularity in different countries and among a variety of people sador. dreiser leaned over and and this talent of charlie tea roosevelt yes, yes, the president or the opportunity to watch the film dream is here, but therefore for me

, it seems to me, the secret of this popularity is in that extraordinary depth, which maybe not everyone even understands initially when they see it the image of a human person, therefore it passes through the screen through the frame, because that the personality of an actor is everything to me even today , that's what i want to talk about. here's how she's beaten since childhood. she was an absolutely happy child, but with an exalted mother, of ​​course, this exaltation was transmitted to her, which then yes flowed out . here it is in her, in such some kind of depth, uh, in her curiosity for life, but it all comes from childhood, how she was not disappointed in humanity, how she was not disappointed in people. she is, for the most part , good. whoever did not see larisa was disappointed. she wrote, but still it did not leak into hatred. she didn't. this is another disappointment. yes, not always carved into

hatred. this is a water, patronymic longing for those, uh, gone to akhmatova. in pushkin u about pushkin about this love and jealousy for natalia for his ex-wife. i hate his wife. he was looking for a duel, he says, somewhere she simply hated natalya, as if she were alive, and they lived at the same time, and they lived in the neighborhood, and they had the only lover they fought for him. she was interesting nonetheless. they lived in an afrikel, which natalia lived goncharovashkin. why didn't she write about herself? yes, yes, remembering today's memoirs memoirs are written by everyone about themselves. i don't know the cook said it would be a book of complaints. yes , if he would imagine, he asks to write about himself , they refuse to write badly about himself, he does not want to be good, indecent. so we must be silent. i know the most important thing, i know what must be given, and not enough, so they live with this

bestowal. memories are the wealth of old age. if i gave in to requests, i began to write about myself, it would be a plaintive book, i wrote a book of memoirs for 3 years, which befell again 2.000 rub. in order to purchase a warm coat. i guess i broke everything and the advance in vain. now we have to return. god bless them with the money i will collect, i will give an advance. well, this is how the diaries work, but she also wrote. uh, letters, maybe from childhood, that dad was a rich man, and she was, as it were, unloved in the family, because she was ugly, maybe listen to this, girls. that's not how it happens. we are all mothers. why, when she writes that she is the daughter of a poor oilman. well we understand that irony all the same, i say not very faith. what parents directly said to her eyes faina you are such an ugly girl bella was just very beautiful, yes, she accidentally

heard her, random conversation between mother and father. yes, this is it, she already conveys it this way. well, how would we. we learned from her that children are such dreamers, in fact, a jewish family, a true believer. eh, parents don't happen to be rich. they don't like children because of their beauty, on the contrary, maybe the father bitterly told his mother in himself. eh, how will she find you a husband? she also stutters to everything else. let's tell the audience, because of what she began to stutter , the actress felt herself at the age of five, her little brother died. i felt sorry for his day, wept, and nevertheless moved back the curtain on the mirror to see how unfortunate she had become at the age of six in tears. the governess took me to a visiting menagerie in a small room a thin fox with human eyes was sitting next to me. there was a trough on the table, two tiny dolphins swam in it. .

drunken noisy ragamuffins entered and began to poke at dolphin eyes from which blood splashed. now. i am 76 years old. all 70 years. i was tortured by it. well, well, horror, but horror no but this one characterizes her impressionability of such humanity. she began to stutter. yes since then . yes, she really was ready to give everything in relation to people. yes, being subjected to such harassment in the theater, well, that's all too. we, on the contrary, have developed some character in her for someone. maybe through this pity some kind of pity. e to people, as to others. it's like this dramatic pity that this was expressed. here in in some kind of there, what if a person's love is a person's love huh? yes, yes, yes it is so peculiar, love is pity,

love of course, that's it. uh, when she got paid. she sent money to her friends envelopes of an envelope in her salary. that's how it is, maybe a lot of people turned to her for help. she helped anyone. take take, i don’t need anything, he had a lot in the fridge, but from time to time some people came and took she has sausage there, this opinion is impossible. take the french perfume sent from paris, i don't need to take it, she said, but i'll die. uh, no one will ever know what good taste i had. eh, remember, yes, because well dressed. uh, hmm, worse than mediocre all the time was in girlfriends lyubov orlova about whom she said in that wardrobe, uh, in which the moth would not learn to fly. and yes, there would be no more place and despite this character. this is love for people. she still

went through so much in her life in connection with this surname. feldman and in connection with this. and what filled out each time, but this questionnaire, where it was necessary to fill out the fifth article. that's what a useful character that the soviets told him, that when she joked everyone laughed, but young artists were sitting next to them, and they were running down their backs from horror and admiration from this woman with an iron will. but who did she love, what do you think, well, except for her dogs, which she was simply betrayed to the last bowed before kachalov. well, pumped, yes, and he is this love heard and answered. well, not that and love, probably, yes, which she expected from a man, but he didn’t even expect her, to be honest, because she was such a pension there. it's in the very first letter. i already have.

she's in a swoon. she saw him and fainted. in general, remind me what she says, but about her darkness then it was very , uh, fashionable. i am very natural. i was born at the end of the last century, when i still had fainting spells. i didn't like to faint. and besides, i never broke down. i tried to fall gracefully over the years, this hobby passed, but one of the fainting spells brought me great happiness and for a long time that day i walked along the countertop lane, looking at the windows of luxury stores and next to me i heard the voice of a man with whom i was in love to the point of stupefaction. i collected his photographs. wrote his letters. i never send them, hearing his voice, i fainted unsuccessfully and hurt me badly, they dragged me to a nearby confectionery and put me on a sofa. a few years passed, i took courage and wrote to him the letter writes to you in such a way, which is stoleshnikov

lane. once i heard your voice, i fainted. i'm already a novice actress came to moscow for the sole purpose of getting into the theater, when will you play another purpose in life? now i don't have and won't have a letter. i remember composing it by heart for several days, otherwise the answer came very soon, dear. faina , please contact the administrator, who will have two tickets of your kachalov from this evening in your name. until the end of this amazing artist's life, our friendship, which i am very proud of and about the falls, and mom and dad feldman lived quietly in taganrog and you are a feldmar. the devil took moscow to become an artist, and she knocks money out of dad, my god, what kind of fights were those, how was i perfectly able to faint then? at that time, i was perfectly able to faint. that

means that you fainted and gave money. and how many gave no? i had to crash down again and, for greater fidelity, knock the vase head down on the floor. i didn't breathe for minutes 10, he took out his wallet and surrendered. well, she has an actor reacting to a human tragedy. i can't imagine, for example, uh with his wife one thing. i consider a single mother. yes, and i can't even imagine it. i'm not because she was insanely busy. there in the theater or in the cinema. she had a lot of free time, because the grandson of shcheglov , who are irina e, they are wulf e, that is, pavel leontievna, will be in this teacher the second mother, who was a daughter. and so, when she gave birth to alyosha shcheglov, she considered him her grandson, and moreover, she was a crazy grandmother, if he was leaving somewhere she wrote a letter, how

did you arrange it? e, alyosha this is a grandmother. eh, there ranevskaya writes. he says i was amazed. and i have, for example, there uh, in such a text. yes, i had to give birth to my grandson. hmm, there were no times when the children of the grandson gave birth to songs. you sang to him in the forest there was a christmas tree reading pushkin's fairy tales. so it could be. the fact is that the tragedy with marshal tolbukhin, who, uh, is not a legend. no, this is not the legend of friendship anyway, yes, well, i didn’t hold it very deeply. well, why are two adults with so respectful of each other, could there heap further he was a widower to his doom. e brought her, in general, to a

complete state. eh, the despair of loneliness and in melancholy and all the kinship that this continued until the end of life. it could have been, but it didn't work out. she regrets it. she says, lord, yes, what is it like all her life without a family , without children, without roles, like a cow, not milking. for some reason. it would seem to me that this is very conscious, when they asked her who is your main director in life, she said alexander sergeevich pushkin to ranevskaya, of course, interesting fate 5 years. she was, as i understand it, convinced that she would become a great actress became a great actress, the main task is to step over the hysterical in the head of this one. that's who i am who she is, after all, such a specific woman and director i do it normally, do it. this is how a person will habitually perceive it. by the way, what role do you like the most? here they are that you

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quoted. eh, mulya, don’t irritate me, she said, well, leonid ilyich, tell me, i only know from rumors that the boys call me that on the street hooligans and i’m not ashamed of you, i expected. yes, yes, who are we, a bully or yes, yes, there was respect, she herself had her own character. uh, spoiled myself a little. you can say, of course, the actress understands the actors, that it’s not always possible to say everything, what really came to your mind? yes , of course, and many had a hard time with her. she told zavodskoy yes, yes , yes, yes. i endure, i endure ignorance, i endure lies, i endure miserable existence. eh, i endure semi-beggars and

i will endure until the end of my days i endure even the factory proverb ranevskaya generated by her friction on professional grounds. with yuri zavasky. you know what the factory man dreams about. he dreams that he is already buried in the kremlin wall, but as slava understands, that is, she allowed herself something that none of us can afford. true, she allowed, so imagine that her favorite. she thought so. here is the daughter. e wolf pavel leontievna. she was married to a factory man, and he left her. she accepted it’s like a mother and married a sailor or something else like this one in general , which has crooked legs and she’s just, well, like a horse on a race, that is, you understand, and she, as a mother , could afford quite harsh expressions, to whom will he like young actors? a human dog, he immediately identifies

bad people, and he begins to bark at them. there was horror in the theater when this dog came in and approached everyone, everyone expected that now she would bark and everyone would understand that a dangerous example of a young actress or a young actor in disgrace to faina georgievna, to whom she could tell everything about his talent. it’s possible to drive it into such complexes that a person is either from the roof or from the profession, you understand forever the test, what kind of test you can withstand or not withstand it deeply, because there are great people of genius, they always notice talented people anyway, and yet . first, they will try to what extent he will endure their mockery, and then with her lover, how were they afraid of her? once on the set of her constantly playing, he fell ill, or simply did not come. one way or another in his place it didn’t turn out after a solid scandal, ranevskaya agreed to replace the timidity

of the blood just after the institute , a young girl. she was already half-fainted from the consciousness of who she would have to work with, and this scandal was final before the channel, obviously. i wish to cheer up the newcomer, ranevskaya decided to talk to her about married life, she asked no. the girl took a chance on the horn and faina georgievna approved it well; i remember when in odessa they deprived me of my innocence and screamed. so the cities fled. in fact, she has such a phrase whip. this is just an excerpt, and about love, about that, when they were deprived of their virginity, everything that happens in bed has nothing to do with love. that is love. here, for example, with the marshal. um, it doesn't necessarily have to be that they had some, maybe they had a platonic love. and this is quite possible. she is olya, even i am already at that age when you understand that e bed love is generally different incarnations one to the other. in general

, it has nothing to do with it. yes, it's a hormone. listen even that you are at that age tells me. i adore you, and you will be desired at any age. thanks a lot. yes asked. well, i really understand that all my life i have been married to those with whom i was torn apart, from whom i wanted to give birth. that's who in bed with. i ran to marry them, and i thought it was love. true, this love has nothing to do. oh well, okay, let's, we're still talking about love. eh, about that dotted whom, but she loved to say earlier, she loved orlova love orlova lyudmila but also her love. she was a little offended when alexandrov invited her. yes, the role is there, uh, mother, he said, as we are with any of the same age. it's just that she attributed 10 years of her own there. and i'm a fool for only two years, everyone who loved me did not like me. and whom i loved did not love

me, who would know my loneliness. damn this same talent that made me unhappy my appearance spoiled my personality of lonely mortal anguish. i am 81 years old. i'm sitting in moscow in the summer, i can't leave the dog , they rented a house for me out of the city from the toilet in may, maybe one lover of the home's eyes, old age - this is just evidence. i think it's ignorant. with god, when he allows you to live to old age, lord , everyone is already gone. and i still live. it seems to me that a lot here again i say it was exaltation, a lot was invented. i want to tell you now it's scary, but look, but today psychologists are working. yes , there you never know what happened to you, there is such an opportunity and the psychologist explains everything to you about himself. and you kind of think, the truth is, i have bipolar disorder. i am not a mentally sensitive person. well, well, really, i don't know that. no, i just don't know about myself. you are prescribed some pills. you

become, you stop cutting yourself more evenly , you stop tearing yourself, your nails stop eating yourself, because they gave you the plates , they explained to you that this is not. it's ok. you are not needed there under the covers, but at night under the pillow. i don't think it's something like that. just a little correction for you. i think that, uh, faina georgievna also had some problems. well, that's such a psychological property and the victim today, of course it would be. uh, they would correct it, she would, uh, i want to sing the first half of the letter, which marilyn monroe could have written, in the same way i am lonely and my appearance is to blame for everything, because beauty is also literally a terrible force. here is a terrible force, and it is tearing there, and there, that is, uh, this letter. and i thought this was a letter from that, i don’t know, that’s an artist to well , not an outstanding appearance. well, they are also

lonely, but sometimes they have some random men even somehow manage to get the parents of the child from one of them and live and understand. well, like my mommy, she always said, on clothes, stretches legs. well, yes, well , so that's nature to me, too. here today gave here well to go mad. i still want from you what was? eh, what's the matter? why was faina georgievna so lonely and why did she consider herself such an unfortunate choice. it is mine. uh, such a conviction, it's her choice. uh, people are getting more and more annoying. and the less i communicate with them, the better i feel, because, in fact, the people whom she loved are no longer there, they are all there, and here she says, it's hard for me to be a genius among the boogers, that is she felt herself, she realized that she

was, of course, and now, when i get used to it, everything is in her, uh, i ’m different about that longing that i also have. hmm, for those whom i loved madly. now i can't love madly. i can tolerate someone. here you go. and i want it to be like that, because when it was impossible to live without it, and she, as an actress, she didn’t get it. galina and some questions, some questions answered themselves. here, uh, well, as if, trying on a role, i’m immersing myself, and in the story of fine georgy , something has changed in your particular life it became, for example, easier, or vice versa, or in general, something went to some tenth plane. in general, of course, as a system of values, somehow, uh, something has changed. no, i'm just amazed at how similar we are, i apologize for such a comparison, because for those who, uh, don't know me well, because i , too, uh, there are madly in love with the theater and nothing in

life. when i hear some actress talking, i was walking by with my friend. and here we are. i feel bad in my heart because i didn’t want anything else in my life. did not see. i really love theater. and if i don't go on stage, i'm dead, i would be golden. my god, that's why you play ranevskaya, because the nature of the psychophysicist has fallen. yes , you can’t be a skandachka, you can’t run into the theater to play it, and then you can’t run to a restaurant to take it with a girlfriend. yes, and so i say that yes, i am offended by the directors who tell me, there, you are a comedian. you can't play there some, well, i think it's so stupid. uh, i say that i'm uncomfortable too, because i constantly bring my director's text. i say, it seems to me that right here, right there, inviting me there , right there, lord, there was a movie recently. e for the role of concierge. i say ok. i

'm ready because uh whatever, she's just cosmetic, but shamelessness just isn't there. i say, come on, everything will play characteristically. come on, it will be an oriental woman. listen, he’s so much now. everywhere, like this role, it turned out thanks to galina’s character. you understand that a e artist who plays the main role is a beauty who passes by the concierge, she must to be remembered, and you are not the only one in this film, and they didn’t tell you the director, pull up, the film is not about you, therefore, here is the answer georgievna’s profile is the same she played zinka this is the speculator, but there is koral in the kremlin chimes yes, she said, i i will find you and kill you if you are in a dream in a film, and she played in the theater yes, she, uh, people came to watch. the first act went at all, and he removed it. the performance answered

questions. why do they say so? so? thank god, because i also literally even in a big difference, such a regime as which has now become something galina well, you hide behind your back, because they only look at you. go to the background. please leave such a glory here, god is the role. thank you for writing it. she became so bright that the advertisement of this film was only with me. but today the directors will watch our podcast. well, that's how you know by chance, everything in life, accidentally saw and said, lord a. i'm a fool, it's been 5 years already. let's look like this, and you are not a muscovite, and i no. we all came to college with three kopecks. and you lived in hostels and i wish you lived without money. yes, we didn’t know what would happen after the institute, there were periods when there were no roles we were thrown by men, true , throwing,

that is, there is nothing in the biography of faina georgievna that would directly strike me, and i would say, my god, how she survived it. i would not have survived, but my own sister lived abroad, in my opinion in romania . yes, in bourgeois romania, later in paris , she also sent parcels. well, somehow, yes, ah, ah dahlia was from a very wealthy family. and she had an excellent upbringing and languages. ah, i mean, she had a good childhood, my god. she once overheard. uh, what did dad say that she wasn’t? yes, i know a million girls about whom one of the parents was once, as we said. here, maybe yes. i became an actress, uh, she came to moscow from barnaul and said, jackdaw. i don't understand why you are not being filmed. here churikova is also terrible, but she is filmed in a movie. he is galya beauty beauty. no, it's what it is for me churikova was. eh, the queen is a beauty and an actress, but my mother she no yes

, what did you say to your mother, but i can’t say anything, she treated me like that. well , please, because of this, then they didn’t get married, because you were in the complex eating nibbles, because men loved me, you know? well , you understand, that is, well, we all came across someone who got it. and how can a man drive guys into the complex, but it's just that i heard from my husbands. i think another would us. i would just go out the window, i mean, she was special. i don't think it's because that she experienced something in her life, these are then her biographers. and sue began to say some words , to look for this very nature of her such, e and wild talent, but in fact, it seems to me, this is loneliness. it would be her choice. and i know who the girlfriends are who are single, but it did not become such a tragedy that tells because a person chooses it. so, he is ready

to exist in this and he likes it, you know? here is the choice of this loneliness is a kind of, as it were, motivation and hmm talent. here she was nourished in this loneliness. she owns nurtured talent in this. there is a tragedy drama in this, but this is her life, and she likes it, of course, yes. let's be honest, the family takes away a lot of energy. here i need to say that the more and between the famous, the more unraveled it is and the reason for this popularity that is here. until now , uh, it really seems to have some kind of mystery, because of the events. they really touched everyone, we don’t, there’s nothing extraordinary lost my son there, uh, i don’t know ostrovsky actress.