mm, she reformats with criticism. it seems to me that today she still leaves the blog. although, uh, they still somehow don’t want to recognize this critical bliss , strictly speaking, as criticism, because there are no criteria there. yes, i write what i want, it really is the other way around. hey blogger. after all, it's terribly dependent on your subscribers. they must like him in order to create some informational qualities if he has fed a certain number of his subscribers. he he can't say things that they won't like. it's clear, understandable, therefore, too, perhaps even more dependent than when i, for example, worked in a literary newspaper. it’s clear, but uh, i would sum up our conversation with a formula, a formula about what is not so important, evil criticism or kind , it

’s important good sensitive either. about this, but in general we have created such a very multifaceted and unique portrait of a person who at the same time continues to engage in literary criticism and writes extensive books. first of all, olga nikolaevich tolston. although not only the name of this person. pavel basinsky. we thank you for participating in our podcast. let them say count. thank you see you again. thank you. thank you. i am pleased, and i tell our viewers my usual magic phrase , read it with pleasure. this is a football not hockey podcast. my name is denis kazansky today our guest

is valery kuzmich, who doesn't remember. oleg kuzmich you see, this is what happens, you once said, and this phrase is very strong caught by the football team. in moscow, this someone's vanity is good, flavored with money, and the club in the region is a social project. and now something has changed, well, to lead a team from moscow and lead teams there with the periphery and not only in siberia or there, conditionally , the same shinnik and so on. these are two big differences in the sense that when you work for you in moscow, everyone and everything helps you, from all sides it supports you to work somewhere on the periphery. almost everyone is against you, except for the one who is in this club, and i it seems that those who work at the intersection in the province and so on. they deserve more respect, as professionals. by the way, i am amazed that in hockey it completely

changed in soviet times , moscow teams also ruled, and the periphery, as it were, now the situation has changed dramatically. yes , for some reason it happened you are talking about the fact that everything in the province is against you. what does everyone and everyone mean, if this is really a social project, and this is an attempt, well, to attract people to the stadium so that they are distracted from their life enjoyed the game. i, when i say that this is a social project. i just meant that i understand it this way, because really e football this business, football is politics football is including social phenomena, but just here we take an example of a social phenomenon, tomsk is an absolutely football city of the team, in the second league, it gathered 12-15 thousand spectators at its stadium, when they came to them there, dynamo kiev came at one time, there was the moscow torpedo. besides football, there is not

a single professional team in tomsk, and people brought up for several generations that football in tomsk is more than football. this will start up such an expression that is attributed to our first person. really not so sick everyone there dynastic disease. mom, or rather, dad, son, there is a grandson, and so on and so forth, the generation that is in europe somehow in the same turkey, i know there, if the child’s grandfather was sick with a voice, no one in the family can be sick against, and so on. this is how they live in tomsk, yes, they play football, so when there are teams, the city somehow lives like only team, well appears difficulties. this problem is very difficult to solve and i understand that there is no hockey there, although the siberian mountains. there at one time there were two springboards, where the national teams of the unions in jumping ski jumping held training camps there were times. now the situation has changed. but t-shirts, by the way, perish

chronic problems in tomsk and when you worked and before and after the constant need. and so, how do you yourself think that well, let's, maybe even do it on a wider scale. this concerns not only tomsk. although that's where the letters went the president with a request to keep the team a professional team or club should. he can behave in such a way that it is understandable that he is forced to behave this way. well, are you okay with swords annoying? tomsk region, far from being a comfortable region there are six oil and gas producing enterprises, there are industries and so on seriously working, but there is not enough on a t-shirt, as if there was a football team in soviet times. there, conditionally in chita, a serious level, then beyond the urals, football began to slowly die. it is clear that hockey is closer. yes? there are no hockey teams quite in tomsk, but there is uh-huh, she also has such a

beginning there are mountains of satellites. tomsk is a closed city. there are some in tomsk itself, so for me this one, well , an annoyance that, as it were, does not heal all over the world and you have seen clubs that make money. and we have, well, so, firstly, a counted number, and secondly, it is extremely difficult to imagine that sport in general is a business. it’s hard for me to say, no matter how there is no answer to your question denis, because i kind of suffer from the fact that i was in russia in two clubs, tom and balticalingrad, and in tomia we suffered. the same picture in mine when i was there, the same thing happened in kaliningrad when i didn’t receive a command for half a year. i had money. yes , the budget has no right to spend money on the development of professional football, but there are no other

investors. no, other levers, i repeat, i have no answer. how is this issue resolved and why does the same thing happen, and what remains for us to do? on a more serious level, this topic is clear that the rfu cannot, the premier league does not decide this question. this is the right of investors who have the opportunity to support teams, but obviously i may not be entirely right, but i will give an example of china in different periods. it turned out that in china in order to raise the decision. either they are exempted from taxes or they are reduced to a level where it is profitable for investors to invest in football

and there has been a sharp jump in financial investments, maybe go this way. hmm , it’s hard for me to judge the example of china suggests that there was such an opportunity and it was decided by there is no answer for you, why there is no answer , what to do in order for the situation to change , we recently talked with vadim evseev, who assure that in spite of everything russia is a football country. do you have a feeling that he is right? well, somehow on this topic. i think this is a question that does not have a clear answer. in the sense that in russia football loves there are no doubts, and the world cup, which was held on the side, as if once again demonstrated, yes, that we love football and like that with all our heart, but in order for us to have opportunity. playing

football all over the country is an issue that we talk about all the time, but it stands still. why is it considered that there is less growth of good talented football players in our country? it seems to me that at all times russia has been rich in football talent in this sense. and uh. suddenly , for some reason, this rodnichok begins to excise. it seems to me that the number one problem is that prestige, or rather the coach, works with children and young men. this profession has not become prestigious. rather be prestigious. i assure you in soviet times, as a coach, young men working with children were quite well provided for. their salaries were on par. here are the colossus or class b players. i mean a coach who works with children. yes, there was a strict grid by category. everything was strict there, but the coach working 5-10 years with children, his salary stopped such that he was easy. well, as if

supporting the family, education is clear that it is necessary for any coach, because now looking at what is happening, and in the regions, again, hmm professional soccer player. the hockey player ends his career and immediately becomes a coach. after all, this is also somehow wrong. as far as i understand, again, returning, and in the days of the soviet union, in the higher school of coaches and children, you would not be allowed without the appropriate knowledge. you know, in this sense, i also do not quite understand what is happening in the soviet era. this is the academic education he receives for 4 years he studied there in historical culture. or there at the university of legal education specialization he has been a coach for 4 years received a basic serious serious education when he came to work with children. he already knew, because in each course there were work with children, young men of different ages, and so on. uh , football management, well, the ussr sports committee has always been very

clear in its approach to working with a coach working with children, continuing education courses, seminars, and so on. it was very prestigious to work and such tournaments were held, which were, well , the national championship, there is the cup of youth, the cup of hope, and so on and so on, and in in the past, players really came to this job, who played later, got an education, and plus they constantly grew along with their team, the competition was the highest and in order to become a coach, there were millions of jobs here. well, in a professional team, of course, and this kind of competition, as it were. she gave outstanding coaches who are already working on stationary teams there with professional team members. it seems to me that this level has somewhat decreased due to the fact that we are now e academic education is worth nothing for those who graduate from high school. they must obtain licenses from the rf football academy

academic education. there, without a higher sports education, you can get this license. only passing, well, courses that last several series a year and then an internship. it seems to me only a person who will work for a long time or receive an academic education and work with children. he can become a coach of the highest level there. we discussed artyom dzyuba just played in the team of champions, he was the main striker there. petersburg superstar and it's over in six months. well, i hope that everything will continue for him, but questions. and what is all this already the end of a career? yes , he had all these moments. well, a lot of him there, the transition from spartak to that, then he went from spartak to tulun. yes, he is a daft, yes, it’s

like artyom is a separate story, and he will find himself this time too. if he wants to play that he is a player, but by nature a player as a football player, he is not just a football player , he still knows how to play, and she has a quality different story in that he is at that age we should not lose players who are the national team player and the captain of the national team. but if you remember, he didn’t come to the national team, no matter how he couldn’t play in the open gate at the gate on the side. he came out and became a hero in the style of artyom. when you need to prove it, he will gather there, having closed his sleeves, and will do everything according to my standards. no matter how he was there, he is in the russian championship today , even the russian championship. he is the player of the first eight smaller in the world. and how his story can't be ended, man can't,

six months ago, the champion was not the last person in the team. and suddenly, who is he? wow, moments like this happen. u, in my opinion, not only in football and art, where they were wherever we turned, moreover, among men of such a warehouse as artyom, he may be the first he should be uh-huh, let's talk with you about what happens to our football, again. so here's the world context, when the euro just heard that we have the opportunity to go to the asian league, but i was smitten. and well, i somehow unambiguously reacted negatively to this, because it’s a loss, but besides the fact that the loss of european competitions, and for clubs, this is also a loss in my opinion and is focused on children, that is, it’s one thing when you have real liverpool come to moscow there paris saint-germain and another thing when a team from the asian group arrives, there is another side, because the national team needs to play football, but everything is not easy there either. well, even imagine

if we go to asia win fifa won't give us the right to play in the world cup, most likely the easiest question, in my opinion, due to what you already answered 100%. the point is that i don't see a single reason that would suggest that we should go over to an asian confederation. with all due respect to asian football. i spent a lot of happy years there and i understand that football is good enough there, but i see no reason for us. e they say we need somewhere to play. and who said that we will definitely play, and i'm not entirely sure that the team of south korea or japan will suddenly agree to play with us, and there will be no problems or the australian team there. yes, we play there with iran with iraq. yes, we now, in my opinion, and in any case, we have the opportunity to play with these countries,

so if we talk about playing, uh, i don’t have it , so i understand that we will definitely play there in comfortable conditions, second moment. we say football is a business to play in the asian confederation for all teams - it will just be a waste of money. we won't make money there. nothing like there was in europe, we strive to play in the players. we have some hmm earn something. and if successfully passes decently earn, yes? and the asian confederation is one of the poorest. yes, we need to be patient. i think it's kind of weird. what is there, how will our history move forward in the political sense. yes, it is clear that we suffer because of this, but in the end in hockey. we have a closed league, but we play some kind of growing nhl - this is also about many things. they say that

there are situations when i remember that for many years canada and serbia were also cut off. yes, the players grew up, i’m not talking about the british, that english clubs too were we need to get together. in this sense, here i just have a question. think of it so that the championship would be interesting for us. yes, it means that for this it is necessary to create conditions when these matches in the category of what is called yes were as many as possible. and finally, speaking of construction, what did you say about the landmark for children? yes, indeed, this is a strong component, when children see why? we are already committed. i think we have a chance. here in this situation for young players competition may be reduced, but there was a chance to show themselves to break into the composition

of the prove show when foreigners. we don't have such a high level now. yes, this is the first, the second for trainers working in these conditions. i mean , domestic specialists also have a chance when they are less uninhibited, less free, when this is the pressure to be sure to play at the level of players of evidence. there is no such thing, yes, and therefore there is a right to make a mistake. when a coach doesn't have this pressure, he opens up in a different way from my own experience of the sign, when there is no pressure for yourself, you feel much freer and from here it is transmitted to the players. this is the internal state of the coach, when you are not pinched, not pinched, i don’t know on a subconscious level, but how the players feel the state of the coaches very strongly, this depressed state is often transmitted to the players. and now this is not there. what was popped up just where there was

nothing was nonsense. come on , i'm the premiere at football with denis kazansky tomorrow at the first i myself have been playing for a long time. well , for a long time, and you, i don’t play, i train. let's let's talk about cameroon. let's the world cup is over, correctly, i understand that you watched cameron, especially, of course , in all of me that i should flirt at all times, of course, i remain a cameroon nearby and close

and moreover, i somehow happened to this year, all of a sudden, the cameroonians remembered me in the sense that suddenly the football players led by my dear , at 4:00 am on the seventh, the phone rang , and a young man addressed me in russian. he says that i am kuzmich here, uh, the guys are getting ready to congratulate you on your eightieth birthday. and how they can't count. i don't know there, what happened there. yes , i say, wait. what time do you know now in moscow, yes, four hours. yeah, i say, so it's morning, so i mixed up four evenings. in general, they congratulated me. happy birthday, guns are sweet and so on, yes, and then some english company made a film in the nineties and nineties. uh, bones, ticks of some french people who

filmed a documentary about me too somehow it all happened in one year, but it turned out, and this world cup, which i was now hoping that cameroon would kind of shine again, because, well, this is it. for us, it was easy and natural to play argentina there , which then in the final will fight, there are brazilians. so i looked, of course, with them. well, again, they themselves, but the ancient foreigner. yes , there is a coach, well, it seems to me, so, it seems to me, he simply did not cope with the team. yeah , i don't think i can handle it either. because how? there is information, then there was a lot of control in this team with a plus sign is one thing, when he paid off all debts there, and so on, but his pressure also turned out to be not very good, so

i never had talented people there. so i always thought and still think that the cameron players are very talented. well, there are a lot of problems in the organization, and this time i also have this. well, the scandal with the goalkeeper. by the way, is this typical africa or typical yes? well, i had about the same thing erased that phantom was when he gave a devastating interview before the championship, where wrote that we are not ready the federation did not prepare did not give anything and we had to come to a gentlemen's agreement with him that he remains in the team you will decently not in any case arise. and here he was with us throughout the championship. he didn’t play for a second, but behaved. just like a real man. he helped. he was already cute holding the locker room, fists and so on. so well, it was so, if it will be so, probably, yes, he left here, and in general, she did not promise. to be honest, i always thought it was. really this son i lived on was there kunda. why

the social defender lived ronal it turns out, well, there were no family ties. and what if we talk about the character of the africans, there is something similar to us when you worked with ours. mi football players worked, then brilliant on the spot. uh, very vulnerable. hmm, there are different ones, if we stick with it, but, but you can’t scold the cameroonians, yell and you can’t put pressure on them. uh, i don't know, maybe i had such a situation. well, no matter how they word without complexes does not fit, but he knows how to put any setting, yes, and i witnessed when they were preparing for the first match of the combined army barracks, where they lived in 24 people. well, on matats without

sheets, without uh pillows, and so on, more world cup matches and suddenly we arrive in paris, we are accommodated in a hotel, i follow the next room such a loud voice. it turns out that the player saw there was a curl of juice on the bed, and he chastises the maid. why didn't she fix it? why didn’t she lie, she takes her into account in such a tone, cameroonians, they can behave perfectly in restaurant doesn't know how to hold a fork like a leg. what glass, for what, unlike us there for water or for wine. they are in this, i don’t know where they got it from, but these are very difficult people, yes, well, as if they love football without noticeably. well, including myself in football, too , the fact that the moroccans have gone so high, it’s just not about the moroccan national team, but that the coach worked there for a week without a year, he worked there for a month and a half. this is what they generally talked about,

some kind of modern history, and it is a piece, that is, we should look at it as an exception, or there is something in it. it's a lot to know when the coach comes to the team. and he does not break anything, but preserves what is, and obviously he explains that the main thing is that the main characters are not me, but you, in this championship you must play simply at your level. there's not from the sky, the players fell. they they play. they they just played like? well , maybe it's indecent to talk about it, but i reread the world with my camera and said that friends, you did a great job. you got on this festival. and now here you are enjoying football. yes, you can do this, this, this, this, and even get pleasure and obviously so it was built in about the same way, when they began to give 100% in every game and when they were there, well, they were dying on their feet, but they fought this suggests that the coach just inspired them. he

created conditions for him so that they would get from it, as well as enjoy football. now it can still be fun. what am i? i'm telling you, i'm the national championship. i enjoy truth. sincerely i look, all one match of the premier league all the matches all in the tour i look for work. which coach of ours are you interested in watching now? i'm just delighted with working with cards. i'll explain why a very difficult situation arose for him. he joined the team. and when they are there at the very beginning. yes , when all the foreigners were there, they started to scare everyone and that's it. then all of a sudden the foreigners leave and at some point the team sank, then i look now at who the rostov team consists of young guys who are rented out there,

suddenly got in, and it’s not clear, but rostov comes from lokomotiv and plays football there as it plays, then there is a lot, as if there is a position where, as if i can’t say everything in a row, how the wind is for me. yes, there are issues there. and how karpin closes them, how he came from one structure to another, how he began to force the goalkeepers to start, lapel. it would seem a completely different situation. there he knows how to give, he and the other third. and they are not afraid of anyone. i suspect that it will not be easy for them now. here are just the stages. well, nevertheless they they will find it, because and when the team it seems to me that he is in the collection a little bit, as if not the drop that i watched with pleasure. i really like the wings. just

autumns, whoever they stay with, whoever leaves them, the structure of the game remains, the players understand what is required of them. well, not only that, but they still lack the skill to do what it is obvious what they are preparing for. here, in these difficult conditions , the team does not lose its own, as it were, my own self . it is also a pleasure to watch. we have another very bright coach. and we they followed him, well, really such a very curious career, how it developed not only in russia but also in england in holland, i mean for the institute and his return to rubin, which is rapidly falling and for viktorovich remains without work. do you have an explanation for what happened. why is the person who won the championship with cska, who was really the brightest coach in our country? yes, in general, in relations with slutsky they are very competent, knowing who knows how to work, there are no questions

professional qualities, there are no questions at all. do you remember when he came under what conditions and the team played? here is the first stage of the very first ruby, if we say yes. then they lost, then the players began to leave, and most importantly, how the key players who occupied them instead of them left , it was assumed that the players would replace them there and suddenly this did not happen. yes, this transition. that's what karpin managed to cope with, just lenya did not succeed in any game that i watched, they did not lost in the game. but something was missing. not enough in front, not enough in the middle. there. well, creativity, or something, and

these are mistakes, i myself found myself in such a situation when we flew out. i didn’t have a way to get out of this then, well, yes, we lost, there were 15 people, the off-season was some kind of this moment. more on command leaves new ones came. and so we began to lose confidence. i told you that a lot depends on the coach at some point. i started looking for what was wrong. why doesn't it work? why are we one game we play, we don’t lose in the game, we don’t score, we miss some moments. this feeling, e uncertainty is transmitted to the players. quite, perhaps, this psychological moment, when lenya suddenly, uh, began to look for problems in refereeing problems. it’s hard for me to say it in any other way, but i, of course, worried about him and, frankly, suffered with him, no matter how it was , one piece of cska bread, so that there

wasn’t and suddenly, like this i don't know a question of psychology obviously hmm and for him. well , honestly, yes, how will it all end and what the club will head for viktorovich, i'm sure it will be very soon. i don't know. i'm sure i already got it. invitation our podcast is called football hockey hockey in your very bright rich biography i once attended that hockey, when we shone we won the olympic games of the world championship and europe in a row without even closing our eyes. i saw it for the first time. what are the reds world cup in moscow in the seventy-third year, and uh for me. uh, i thought so all the time, now, if i were in football i don't play, i would probably play hockey. although i almost never skate there. well, that's all, well, two different sports. i didn't think about it until we ended up in a football team embroidered into two groups, let's say

football and hockey then there were 30 football coaches and 10 hockey coaches. and we made friends there and with these andreevs from there we were looking for zenith, st. petersburg, leningrad and with peter sparrow. he gave us his skates to play in the yard. there you are something yes, yes the generation that is older than me they played in football into hockey at the same time, yes, both in winter and summer, and they had such a division, as it were, that football is a more intellectual game than hockey, hockey is very simple, i say, they say to me, well, there is a hockey rink there. 5 x 5 run and erotic cska with closed eyes, knowing that if it accepts conditional fetisov or registrars, well, on the left heel, then the first paz will definitely pass

diagonally there to the right somewhere and there is already an attacking flank, it should already be like , it's like i'm saying. well, the discussion was all clear. yes, reasoning, and then when i i started, as if to look already, as i really understand, there is a lot of such things that larionov is now instilling. i look for the lower yes, well, i look for some, too, i have a lot of free time. i see there what he played when he played in cska, he came to the nhl and became a professor there. or how many times you made a computer, it means it's bad. well, i see that our players

are shining there. yes, i look with envy, and where are ours? you have already talked about this football players, at this level, no, and therefore for me hockey very close. this is my intellect. we are equal, it still depends a lot on who plays hockey, what kind of hockey he plays. how to put the role of the coach, the coach is also in hockey. it seems to me even more significant than in football, because there you need to manage operational thinking. there should be here's an instant this year is your anniversary. this cameroonians congratulated you already happened. we do not congratulate you in advance. and tell me here you see 80 or half an hour, which still says, i'm ready to lead any club. give me an offer

will you consider if you are ready for the stereotype that has been developed in the minds of employers, obviously depends on the fact that up to 70 years the coach has the right, as it were, maybe after 70 it’s already, of course, it’s already dementia , i don’t know what if i absolutely disagree. yes, there are some physiological changes know, right? well, here is what concerns the analytical moment. somehow well, i don’t know , maybe it’s only subjective, i treat myself like that, in what way is the importance of the coach’s work in the analytical warehouse, the coach knows how to analyze the situation well, the game and position in the team there climate or atmosphere. if the analysis is like this well, logical, or something, it ’s normal there let it work after 60 after 73.