tv Bolshaya igra 1TV March 13, 2023 10:40pm-11:41pm MSK
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i mean, the government of the united states, of course, and in fact, she even witnessed this in her speeches and biden, inuland. uh, they rejoiced about this or warned that if something happens, let's say one thing, but to help against terror is another. it is simply impossible to imagine, even being a little familiar with international relations from practice. uh, the secret services, which are state-owned, who cannot but receive information here, understand what is happening, they quite possibly know about something. well, they don’t specifically talk about it so that it all happens, even such an option is obvious. they bear their fault and their fault, the main one, because only they actually had the ultimate ability to prevent this if one of their allies, or even their patronized ukrainian di. santov, but took
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similar actions. they bear an absolutely obvious share of the responsibility, which is why they block any possibility of investigating when they do. well right and then what, yes and further it means that they let's go along the way. the end justifies the means has become an old principle. but if you have taken this path, then you thereby open up opportunities for others to follow the same path. that's what i hoped. that's what i was hoping at least, that's uh, we'll fix it. eh, and this, i think, is very important. e, i spoke with one, but a wise russian statesman, whom i will not name for obvious reasons, although he allowed me to test him without naming him, and he said, of course, an act of this kind cannot go unanswered and the answer . of course, it will not only be at the level of appeals. ah and some criticism of american
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actions uh and uh, i have a deep conviction that uh the answer will be. i, naturally. i don't know what the exact answer is. of course, i don't know when the answer is, but here's how to change washington when i have a question. i would say now, after i tried a couple of months in moscow, i would tell him. i'm not sure we 'll ever know for sure. who where and how did it happen? but if there is no objective investigation, if they create, if you want a new normal in terrorist acts against russia, who is someone. it is those who do it, the united states owes us as a result of this terrorist attack, and this debt sooner or later. it can be
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presented for payment, as we really do not know and cannot know. likely to be charged. you agree and absolutely agree. uh, not only that, uh. hmm . it seems to me that it is quite obvious that the americans did it, but i think we are a little uh, behind the events. for example, here is konstantin fedorovich for you, as a deputy of the state duma. here, tell volodya vyacheslav viktorovich it is necessary to adopt a resolution of the state duma that america is a terrorist state, and the answer can only be after you really announce it. that's when we adopted the resolution, the americans say, we should call a shovel a shovel. that is, we adopted a resolution.
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you just don’t follow the work of the state duma every day; secondly, the declarations of the state by a terrorist have different incarnations are one thing - these are declarations of deputies of even the entire state duma and another state act, for example, such as list of unfriendly states in a minute. but uh, when we talk about these kinds, then, a, we must also understand that the action has consequences. we were just talking about the consequences for the united states, if such a resolution were adopted, we would greatly increase the possibilities. that the united states, and not at the congressional level, but at the administration level , would recognize russia as a state sponsor of terrorism, and the americans would have more opportunities to create problems for moscow based on such a decision than vice versa there, the most the main thing is that absolutely our audience
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, offended by all this, absolutely does not give a damn whether it will be called the state , public opinion requires us to take action to demonstrate yes, it hurts. i just want to answer this question. and, by the way, it's hell to quote someone from the kremlin propagandists on one of the ukrainian channels, they ask about, in my opinion. alexander or elaryenogo here, who work in american structures that are extremely negative about today's russian politics, but first i want to discard that. here is this one uh, that's an objection in terms of russia being declared, uh, a country. the answer was this. i
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certainly trust these people who make a living doing this and basically find where they are in the united states they said. the sanctions that have been applied against russia today are stronger and more than if russia had been declared a state sponsor of terrorism, that is, there are no other sanctions that would go further than they already have. this is the first and second. i still want to finish the first part of my thought . the fact is that when we have a formulation, which i am ready to propose the following wording, you know what everything means, the known facts say that this is the american administration - this is biden. this is nolan, which means jack sullivan. and in general, the entire presidential team. we believe until they
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provide evidence that it was not them, despite the fact that they boasted about it, they said that they would destroy these gas pipelines. we believe that they did it, therefore they are terrorists and we reserve the right to strike any retaliatory strike in any area that is in our power and in our interests. thank you this is very important. thanks, and by the way. there is such an expression : started for health, finished for peace. i think that on the expensive ones in my opinion, the binge began to end for health, but because we understand, uh, it is the ultimate specifically for actions, of course, uh, and here, uh, declarations of their resolution absolutely. i was just talking about action. here the state duma began it just
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from the action of the first stage. yes, well, so listen, you need to listen. we need to come up with revolutions. we are not preventive attacks. yes? let's, let's, we let's not argue, e with each other, especially in essence to this, essentially agree. decided to respond to this kind of action. or let me put it differently, if russia were forced at some stage to respond to such actions, which russia clearly does not want for many very serious reasons, because i repeat this would not be without some price for russia but if russia decided to follow this path. i understand correctly that russia would be quite capable on many levels and
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in many different ways. do you know when we talking about the game to escalate easily on a talk show in parliament on the blog, yes, to be decisive, i wanted to urge you to change your angle of view a little. look, the soviet union collapsed. in 1991, russia remained, but it remained. although with a limitation in the modern state , it continued to make 30 intercontinental ballistic missiles a year, which were aimed at america, but america for almost 20 years. yes, the dominoes of speech didn’t break us right through the knee. it doesn't surprise you. here is the current situation. no it seems normal that war has been declared against us. she's just in that area. but that for the first 20 years it didn’t exist at the same time, if we call for total war, how can our roscosmos continue to cooperate here , the cosmonaut kikina landed with our american colleagues near florida, who at this table did not call for total war. yes
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, this is not a total call for you to look, that is, on the one hand. we are filled with righteous anger on the other hand in a number of ways. we continue with the americans cooperate. yes, americans. uh, only in the last few years, all the time, the rivalry between the united states has been unleashed. despite the fact that brezhnev met with nixon , there were no declared wars at that time. in all parts of the world. special services. they kidnapped, killed, set up each other against, because in different guises and at different levels the world is very multidimensional, including these relationships, the rivalry of everything else . you see, it seems to me that what is happening is about something. this is a war of almost equals yes, that's when we will be equal in integral power soviet union economic and political soft power, then maybe no one will dare to blow up our streams. in the meantime , russia will not become equal to the soviet union.
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you don't need anything, you have to fight for weapons, but at the same time the united states is afraid of north korea. you are a brilliant military analyst, but strike back. that's what cybera faces whether it's to destroy. how can we repeatedly say e financial system, or destroy some communication systems to disable, well, a huge number of things, which in our power does not mean total war. you know what it means, so i want to tell you. here dmitry i hope will support me here. american society is very afraid of this. now they are not afraid of anything, because they are told that nothing will happen. russia will not do anything, so they will not eat an answer, as soon as the american layman understands that there will be a blow , this blow will have it will be like the fifties. they told me this
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when i came to america how they conducted exercises and ran under the table. here these are some shelters and so on and so forth. that is, they lost their fear. here , at least, there must be a real threat formulated that a blow will be struck and this blow will be sure, and it will be terrible. and by the way, this is exactly what he often says and seems to be, not others who say these irresponsible people canoes are leading the matter towards a nuclear war. world scale tragedies these irresponsible people need to get rid of them. i'm not saying there will be more money. i would phrase it a little differently. uh, our problems between russia and the united states. andronicus correctly said that people in america have ceased to be afraid. but, uh, i keep asking myself
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the question. and why did they stop being afraid, but in fact, putin warned in 2008 that they would not allow a successful aggression against the southern session and did not allow it, and putin said that if american troops and american allies strangle the legitimate government of syria, then russia it will not allow and russia did not allow it, but they said in 2014 . you know better than me warned the united states and others. that russia will not leave, and the donbass, and even more so, will not leave, crimea was not allowed. and now, special operations, how and why they came to the conclusion that you can do whatever you want with impunity, in general , it’s hard for me to understand myself, but i have only one
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explanation, and i don’t know if you will agree with me constantine this is a purely intuitive explanation, i can't prove it. but andronicus said one very important thing, which is a normal american layman, a voter, as we call them. in general, this does not support the operation in any way, but so far the american voter does not see that this war is relevant to his interests. that's all the more to his safety of his family. it's all possible, the biden administration is doing everything possible to convince the american voter that u howl, ukraine that there is some kind of danger to russia's neighbors there the baltic states, but to the united states, once biden said that the united
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states is not a participant in the war and do not want a world war, this means that the united states security, and uh, my dad's whole point is not that russia should start bang on the united states. my pathos is that you need to think very seriously how to explain and demonstrate to the united states that the world does not work like that? i completely agree with you as far as our reaction is concerned, firstly, we have come to the conclusion that it either exists or must be. secondly, we have them then, most likely it will be that it will be the second. why did we come that we shouldn't be allowed to speculate on our responsibility for world peace, that is , to speculate on the fact that we will not launch a nuclear strike anyway, we will start a nuclear war there. and if we don’t start it, then we can
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do whatever we want. here is everything that does anything. even in the absence of a nuclear threat, it is impossible. and this is what needs to be shown. as for, uh, well, you certainly know better. uh, the effect of what is happening in american society, then, of course, biden simultaneously says that this is our life goal to support ukraine because. well, if we don't support her, the descendants will be on the banks tomorrow. there is a russian to keep ukraine well, as you well know, the goal is proclaimed to inflict a strategic defeat on russia and even change the regime correctly and proves that this is a threat to american interests, including competition with china, which can rely on russia’s capabilities in this competition with the united states. and so on. here he is explaining it. and this does not fully find a rational refutation in the american expert community. before everything has voices. we know about this, which
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warn, but they are apparently not enough and they have not yet influenced the domestic political alignment on the other hand. it is absolutely true that the farmer does not yet feel any specific shortcomings from the fact that somewhere there is a war going on in ukraine. but if i understand correctly, in connection with the problems that are starting to grow, including economic prices, which are starting to creep up on energy resources and so on. in general, this night is gradually affecting it's just that a fairy tale tells quickly, but things don't happen quickly when it comes to understanding. on what it depends, the whole propaganda machine works, which explains that if prices have risen by a few cents, then it is putin and not biden, who is to blame, and so far it probably works for a significant part. and how does it actually work, but in the fall they think there will be elections and it will become clear how it works? and we, too, will work quickly. we are now going to the commercial and will be back in just a few minutes and after that
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myself for free. activate the mega powers you need in the megafon app , the number one mobile operator. what was just jumped out, where there was nothing was the premier's delirium on football with denis kazansky on sunday at the first in the big game the big bookmaker is the general partner of the russian premier league. big game and we are talking about the situation in ukraine ruslan pukhov you are well informed authoritative military expert help us understand what is really going on there, you know, we do not see the full picture
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, including because both sides. we are nothing worse than the ukrainians, we are conducting a serious complex. so to speak, disinformation measures, deforming the enemy and the natural public also suffer. there are three things disinformation in time of war is not evil. it's not evil. this is this sensible precaution absolutely sensible betrayal of the state, but there are, uh, three things that are absolutely obvious. the first is that we managed to impose on the ukrainians in a bang such as verdun on the contrary. yes, we are heavily grinded reserves. this lowers their e opportunities. e hold successful offensive is due. this is due to the fact that the ukrainians have accumulated a significant amount of a reserve of human several dozen brigades, and they are now receiving more and more western weapons. well, how would the task of drying them up so that their offensive was a-a less successful, the second
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completely obvious thing that both sides know, like in this one , one and the other side is preparing to attack. this can already be seen in a whole series. eh, such, as it were, indirect signs. yes, then there is that there will be a serious spring offensive. and i do not exclude? that there may even be some kind of oncoming battle, so to speak, our ukrainian offensive will run into each other. yes, and one more moment, which, uh, is quite obvious that if these offensives of one side or the counteroffensive of the second side do not allow achieving any operational or strategic successes, then the war will most likely occur in such a positional stage. well , something comparable is very conditional. a-a in the last stage of the korean korean war is very much. of course, it depends on the amount
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of american assistance that the ukrainian side will receive. i did not make a reservation, speaking specifically about american, and not western aid, because we see that the europeans, and in the nineties, unloaded to such an extent that now we see this vaudeville situation with the transfer of tanks. yes, someone promised 10, then gave eight, someone promised 12 gave 14, that is, the europeans are not able to pump up weapons to ukraine so that it continues its offensive and counter offensive actions. but the americans can at any moment, if they want to bend the arsenal of the americans, large factories, their state, a lot of things give out both new and drop the old. but this is very difficult to predict. as far as americans, but willing to watch. behind this saga called with these supplies. nato, the europeans are doing everything they can to supply, and they are supplying a significant amount, but still not enough to arm
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this ukrainian one. uh, the personnel of the americans are dispensing weapons, they are supplying them here's what we know from the leaks. yes, biden really didn’t want to supply tanks, but i had to make concessions to the europeans. the tanks will be delivered, but later in small quantities, so a lot depends on how much the americans want to increase or decrease this ukrainian comforter. well, let's now talk to me about what could be, about what is happening now, here are the deliveries to ukraine that have taken place so far, oh, insufficient for some significant ukrainian offensive. i think right up until the end of may and beginning of june, these deliveries will not be enough to launch such an offensive as the ukrainians. i would like to, at least as they say. i have the following impression that deliveries
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are closely related to the chosen strategy in this matter. and the european i believe in this line is to inspire the ukrainians as much as possible and ensure that this conflict ends with the victory of ukraine yes, but faster, the americans, in my opinion, are dragging this story out because they believe that it is not enough more damage done russia is all sorts of economic problems that it is necessary to achieve some effect from the money invested in this, first of all , to stir up the situation here in russia domestically, to achieve some kind of discontent. so far , there are no signs of this, but so far there are none. so we must continue to tighten, so they dose they. why were tanks provided? because without this, the europeans were not ready to provide tanks, and after they said yes. we will give, but then it seems that these circumstances have disappeared, these circumstances arguments are counterarguments and the europeans had to go for it too. well, now
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more and more articles began to appear in the united states. those who claim that ukraine must of course be supported. and that they are, of course, innocent heroic victims, but at the same time they note. uh, let's just say that american interests are not identical to ukrainian ones, that ukraine is too demanding. and in general, he wants to wage war as if this war costs nato nothing and does not cost the united states. but, uh, ruslan knows more about this than i do, but i, in general, i don’t know from the world history of the case when the country i say, in this case, ukraine would introduce a war with a firm feeling that even if everything was ground and destroyed for them, this only creates some temporary difficulties, because for the oceanic uncle, and will definitely make up for it. and it
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can be compensated. this is not as fast as ukraine does not want, but it will still compensate and provide. at the same time , more modern, more effective weapons, but of course, if zelensky has such a feeling, and then he has limited motivation to negotiate. well, i’m reading now that washington is starting to think that zelensky needs to be reined in somehow and shown to him that he cannot automatically count on american assistance. at least on the current scale. i absolutely agree with you. not only that, but recently , absolutely without ceremony, and even i would say, rudely revealingly rudely, mccarthy said exactly what you are talking about on the map - this is the speaker of the house of representatives, yes , a republican. he said no blank checks.
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we cannot give this second. who writes himself? how many? as much as he wants, he will write money on this check and take it from you yes, moreover, uh, he said that i am not going to go to kiev, i have nothing to do in kiev that is, it was also a very serious demonstrative action on the part of mccarthy it's actually, uh, the mood of most republicans in the house of representatives, but here's what i'm prepared for today's broadcast. so i looked after all, what ukrainians write, and i already saw a message there that leopards and these bradleys have already appeared on the battlefield, that is, limited quantities in border quantities. moreover, it has already
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been said that ukrainians are here today, in order to keep the bakhmut and to show the western patrons that they are fighting, and they need help, they are thrown there. this is what is very important from a military point of view. i think that ruslan will probably know this better, but at least i looked and read everything before the broadcast, and they say that they leave people who have just returned from england to germany from other countries where they prepared like elite troops for a counteroffensive. and already inside there is a conversation about the fact that either we must surrender bahmud, or we will basically throw these people into this furnace and we will not have an asset for a counteroffensive. and i think that in this situation i cannot but say on my own that if we are almost five times
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larger than ukraine, if i am not mistaken , at least some americans, but colonel macgregor says that 22 million people live in ukraine today. but these are american experts. i don't know the exact data, but we are something that prevents we need to increase the number of our manpower several times, because we can do it, and then the most interesting thing is that ukraine is not a state, but it does not produce anything . absolutely nothing, we are the only one that produces the entire range of weapons. we must now move on to our conversation with danil without sleepless, who is now in donetsk, who knows very well what is happening there on the battlefield. thank you very much that this is not the time, but i just want to say, dronik one thing, yes, russia is much larger than
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ukraine, but uh, first of all, although the russian the military industry really works , uh, seven days a week in three or four shifts. however, russia is like this from the outside, no one supplies. and if you want to have an army that would reflect all the capabilities of your population, then you, uh, firstly, uh, you need to be able to arm these people, and secondly, you need to be able to. e train these people and to the credit of the supreme commander-in -chief president. putin he, like zelensky, does not want to throw people into battle to use them. but, if you like, as a tool for prolonging the conflict. it seems to me that this is a very correct and significant limiter, but in the organization of some new military conscriptions. danil
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tell me, please, what is going on where you are? what is the situation in donetsk bahmud and so on? that's right, where you are, and i know that you are closely watching the events taking place there. but if we are talking about the dpr, then we are carrying out offensive operations in the english direction, there, to the north in the gay, they are also conducting offensive operations. uh, human fighters. okay, uh, in the artyomovsk area. uh, at the same time, they are not just trying to surround the settlement of e artemas. yes, they kind of act, that is, they go. uh move front, uh move back. that is, in principle, progress is visible. yes, there are serious battles going on, while there is an advance in the city itself. uh, now there are fights on the industrial zone.
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that's why, well, in principle, as you rightly said, the enemy is being thrown into new reserves, which do not bear aloud, suffer enormous losses on this sector of the front. this is how there are battles of our performance actions in the area of \u200b\u200bthe population of the item ma advances in other sectors of the front. well, if we take, for example, the lpr, then there is also an advance in the limansky direction and in the flint area. here, in the remaining sectors of the front , artillery duels are taking place, including the kherson zaporozhye direction. that's about the shelling of cities. well, the shelling continues daily. today hmm well, for a very long time , volnovakha was rarely shelled, but today, unfortunately. the enemy also, uh, worked out in waves with reactive system
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volley fire hummers. as a result , two young girls near the store died. for a supermarket, four civilians were injured of personal severity, including employees of this supermarket as well, donetsk is under fire. well, this happens every day there, they are used, including actively nato caliber 155 mm, also under shelling, if the poppies are to blame, well , actually, unfortunately. that's not news. this is the everyday life of daily life, dpr because something like that. okay, so when i listen to you, i naturally have a question. what does this mean and how can the current situation be characterized. if i told you that it gives the impression of fierce battles? that
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the ukrainian army continues to offer serious resistance? ah, but that it still hasn't received enough nato weapons to change the nature of the situation, and that the combat initiative is still unequivocally russian. what do you say to that? absolutely right, that is, the initiative is on our side - that's for sure. so this is the enemy confirms, but uh it should be noted that the announcements of the enemy are preparing for a large-scale counteroffensive. these are not empty words and indeed in the rear. uh, the enemy is preparing. eh, a serious amount. that is, there, according to our data, there are 26 brigades, in fact. i believe that there are many more brigades that will be fully armed with nato equipment. this means that
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they will have nato ammunition, in principle, in unlimited quantities. this is the risk, this is the danger, to say a complete rearmament in technology. yes, that's why i i believe that there are still two months, but i have repeatedly said that i predict. well , these are my thoughts, that, probably, they will try . hmm, before the ninth of may, to go on a counteroffensive, that is, for them they love symbolism. plus they always uh use uh, the situation on the medina front and ideological, that is, for them, uh, to try to desecrate our victory day holiday it has a big role, so i guess it will be somewhere, well, not at the end of april, as well it is believed that at the end of april. i think they will be ready just not before. here on the ninth of may
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they will try to break through the front. i believe that, most likely, it has strategic strategic importance for them too. this is, uh, the zaporozhye direction. this is between melitopol and bryansk -berdyansk. uh, reach the sea of azov through the current in order to cut the land corridor, crimea, uh, also taking into account that they do not accumulate forces and, according to our intelligence, do not accumulate forces almost along the entire length of the front. they will most likely make more. uh, well, some number of 2-3 hits. i think maybe another main will be somewhere in the donetsk direction, in addition, they are preparing for the contour. offensive. there is such data in the region of the hour. ira, uh, konstantinovka druzhkov , koslavinsk, kramatorsk are accumulating forces to try to inflict, well, the counteroffensive is exactly what. uh, in the artyomovskaya area. and
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that's why, well, our command understands this, the soldiers. the officers understand this, in principle, preparation to repel these offensives. she leads it seems important to be better prepared. if i understand you correctly from your point of view. uh this one too the most important thing that ruslan said is that serious events are coming, that you think that the ukrainian armed forces will try to go on the offensive, and not necessarily only in one direction, but to also say that your analysis is not only well known, but also shared by the russian command. at least that's in the theater where you are, and that the russian armed forces are not called
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unnecessarily sick, but we are in good spirits and are preparing seriously, but in order to deal with this situation and to prevent the enemy from breaking through. quite right, but you need, uh, here is one moment that few, probably no one, may have not noticed how our front line passes. it passes in an arcuate manner , as if ukraine has stuck its territory. eh, that is, such a semicircle turned out. yes, she stuck it from the territory of russia, uh, here is the moment, what kind of maneuver for them? here in this narrow on this narrow territory along the front they are maneuvering to transfer forces. uh, much easier than us in the outer circle. eh, you know what i mean so these are the points to be taken into account. i am sure that our command also takes this into account. that's why they might
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be here. uh, additional strikes, some kind of distraction to keep our reserves in other directions not the main ones. and they have the ability to keep a large group in one direction and damn it. in the near future, they will be transferred to another sector of the front, and they can do this only at the expense. that's just this arrangement faster than we are. so, in principle, great to you. thank you. we have to leave in a minute for an advertisement, but uh, before that, i want to ask you a question to ruslan. that's when e daniel described the situation. i involuntarily thought about the kursk bulge, because hitler and his command also made a bet that they would be able to gather their forces here, so the inland direction is faster than e. the soviet command will be able to do this on the surrounding fronts. and uh, in general, how the kursk bulge
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began, let's say the situation was not easy. i risked being known as a low-worshipper in front of the west, but i will add one thing that you, as a citizen of america, will be pleased with. the fact is that one of the components of our success at kursk was that hitler was scared away by the landing. ah, sicily, after all , the manstein actually broke through vatutin and needed to be strengthened. this, as it were, a tactical breakthrough, but hitler was frightened, ordered to withdraw a number of troops and transfer them into the depths, so we people involved in military affairs remember not only how the americans are now helping ukrainians to kill russian people. well, how did they help us together? fight fascism. the kursk bulge was a decisive victory for russian weapons, but again, we must remember that it was our joint victory with our allies. yes, of course, having allies like
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the united states is a great advantage, but there is another big difference between what was the time of people and what is today, and the differences are very simply called nuclear weapons. understanding, it seems to me, a sound understanding in washington that it is impossible to inflict a strategic defeat on russia, someone has such ambitions, but this is in in general, they say, politicians and retired generals. and if you look at what the people who enter the current american command are saying, they are, uh, much more careful. this is the first and second. ah, well, i 'll say one more thing, which, of course, will be
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deeply russian, but ukrainians are non-verbakht. a and e and their nationalist battalions are not a tank division. i don't want to underestimate. uh, ukrainian opportunities, but nonetheless. eh, i still think that with this terrible power, it’s also somehow under great tension. and in understanding real threat. how can this be dealt with? i really liked it. here is the ending of this wonderful person who said. again, i return to the kursk bulge. he said that the impression is that ukraine has plunged into russia in a semicircle. so what prevents us from closing this circle and
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liquidating it. that's all there is. this was done on the kursk bulge. if i understand correctly, the germans were inside, and we closed points, so it was not far away for a long time, but good. in general, once we spoke about the kursk bulge. what is missing is that we do not have enough people or weapons, but also people. we have more than in ukraine and we have more weapons than arithmetic in ukraine. this issue is not resolved, no, yes, it is the spirit that decides, but the spirit seems to be, we have not only a spirit, not only a spirit, but it was said absolutely right so that you do not just drive people to slaughter, but they are trained. they were equipped. to do this, we must try very hard and experience our partial mobilization. by the way, he says that we are not always in order with this. there's a big game on the air, a
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now we're moving to washington where congressional hearings began about the biden administration's misuse of law enforcement, using law enforcement not to keep law and order, but to crack down on political opponents and the chairman of this sub- committee that's running this investigation and is a champion, he has great powers, because he is simultaneously the chairman of the entire house judiciary committee and he is one of the people, and most consistently supportive of president trump. and so he organized a hearing from the censorship, how
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the americans intervened. what are the official bodies that twitter is working on and how they investigated and sometimes directly influenced journalists who wanted to fulfill their professional duty and were independent. let's see how these hearings went. do you see that the russians and their oligarch-controlled troll factory interfered in the 2016 elections with a social media disinformation campaign. do you believe it mr. congressman, dissenting from this issue. what do i think in essence? this is a question that can only be answered yes or no, either you agree or you don't. i don't have much time. well then, i will answer not in the way in which we posed the question. i think that all countries are conducting information offensives is a matter of scale. you are wasting my
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time. now i will ask questions. and you try to answer. if you can answer you believe. he must not convey the word of the questioner, mr. chairman, you are taking everyone's time. do you believe that russia was involved in the 2016 hack and release of damaging information against the clinton company. i don't know, i'd say it's beside the point. let me ask mr. shelen, very simple questions. just tell me or not. that is, you can see that as a witness these are outstanding journalists, both of whom, by the way, are democrats, both of whom supported no injuries on the buyd, and yet, since. they just refuse confirm that russia interfered in the elections. and after that, well, quite. naturally,
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american law enforcement agencies had to restrict freedom of speech. here you can see how these hearings are going. marvelous. that's what the congressman is asking . do you have proof that they intervened instead believe it or not? that is, this is not a category of proof, this is a category of faith. if you believe, then you are the right person. don't believe the wrong person. and if you have uh, so about when it should be normal the expert doesn't tell me black and white and you're talking from one side to the other side. in general, you are probably the enemy. yes, and during these hearings, at first they were called so-called journalists, they recalled all the awards that they received. okay, they calmed down, then you said, well, you probably came here for these hearings. you must have been paid. who paid you and how much. they said under oath. no, no one paid us for this.
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okay said the democrats, who had no proof paid. they said, well, you probably still admit, yes or no, that the fact that you're here and you're on tv will bring you extra publicity. and you can buy it to lick, yes or no? well, that was a complete attempt to discredit. he was such a period in the history of the united states called the maktist, where the accusations were formulated in this way, meanwhile a since a cross, and a leading conservative e commentator. he told a story, if i may say so , to a poor soul about how he did not go to moscow to interview the president let's listen to putin. i'm not hiding anything, but i was definitely hiding my plan to do the interview. putin is like that. how did it happen. how do you know the nsa hacked into
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your phone? they admitted it themselves. oh yes, can you tell us about it? how did you know i got a call from someone in washington who might know about the interview? i met him and he asked if you are going to come to russia soon and i said yes in a week, he said we will meet on sunday morning. it was so weird, but it does. could just write to me you know what i mean, just write to me, but no, so i met him. he asked me if you were planning a trip to meet putin and it was the summer before the war started and i thought how did they know, i didn't tell anyone, not my brother not my wife to anyone, because it's one of the million things over which i am working. i would like to interview. putin i want to interview efforts. i want to take. i have everyone this kind of my work and even kim jong-un, of course we met with him, yes, but in any where he knew about it. and the nb just
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saw my correspondence about it, i'm ashamed to admit it, but i was completely scared by this , i called the senator and told him the story. he said, i just want to tell you this, and then i saw on tv where in congress they asked the nsa and the nsa said yes. we did it, but for good reason , it can't be a good reason to read my phone, but the head of the nsa said that it's okay everyone is involved in this and under it. i guess no privacy exists at all what they have a right to know everything you say and think is scary shit. and it's not legal if you don't have privacy you don't have freedom. freedom is the price of privacy. it's none of your business. but it happened to me personally, so i know it's a fact. the nose, of course, has its own logic, which does not coincide, however, with the logic of the american authorities. the fact is that once they listened and followed his
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communication from the point of view of the american authorities. she had an absolutely legal right to do this, because he corresponded about this interview with a man from moscow who is now standing in front of you. a and uh this correspondence was of the most innocent nature. i want to interview president putin, can you give me some advice? how to do it? answer: i have nothing to do with organizing anyone's interviews, and especially officials in moscow, but i will try to provide you with the contact information of someone who may know about it. the answer was further talking to a person who was on our program. we interviewed him. he allowed me to give.
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your e-mail e-mail is sent all absolutely normal situation. this was before the start of the special operation. this was before any sanctions were introduced against federal channels, there were no promises, uh , let's say, from the side and against carlson, to play along with putin to take some critical positions in relation to the united states, leading american journalists. i wanted to interview the president of russia, they begin to eat him with something. and me, when i return, the united states is stopped at the airport. me pressure and after they change my former, but right. lying united states and without passport control, a-a canceled without
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any explanation, but even so , everything was clear. this is how these mechanisms for restricting freedom of the press work, and andronik literally has less than a minute left, but i want to ask you one question, of course, he is sorry that he is not under putin, but he lives. of course, i'm sorry that they took away this pass from me and now i have to stand in a very long line at the entrance to the united states because, uh, there are very there are few passport agents who check documents, because supposedly the government does not have money for them, probably all the money is spent on ukraine well, in general, since i don’t go to america so often, i can stand in line for him, but here’s a more fundamental one for me question. you say that in america
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they don't take russia's intention and russia's capabilities seriously. it wouldn't be important that american citizens could hear directly from president putin how he sees the situation, and i can uh, guarantee on how carlson works that he would not play during this interview in the board so. i want to ask you, this is not a rhetorical question. well, when the american voter american citizens? they refuse the right to hear from a person who alone in the world can decide that america is no more. that's when american citizens are denied this right, why is there no outrage in america we've already talked about this, because 99% of the us media and
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not liberal they how by the way, tayibi, who was shown? this is the person who gave er elon musk all the information, who read everything on twitter and who disclosed it. how frenzied was everyone on twitter and everything else means the big media was under the control of the democratic party, so it doesn't really seem, well, maybe the only tucker at least some kind of access to a large audience. and everything else is blocked. and actually the fact that the commission was created to investigate biden, and not about this, and will work and reveal the whole mechanism by which they used by state intelligence agencies to silence journalists and keep
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information out of the general public. thanks konstantin for your last word. it should be short my last word. i hope it will not be the last in this program, in general it definitely will not. if you visit us. i want to say that the general impression lately, of course, is confrontation, it continues to grow. of course, different conclusions can be drawn about who will attack and who will counter attack? i really hope without revealing any secrets that we will still attack and that we have enough strength and will and determination for this, but in order for all this to happen, we must put things in order both in our heads and on the battlefield and in the deep rear. this still remains a task, despite all the fact that certain conclusions have been drawn during this time during the year of this special military operation, of course already.
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