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and keep the information from the general public. thanks konstantin your last word. it should be short for my last word. i hope it will not be the last in this program at all. it definitely will not. if you visit us , i want to say that the general impression lately is, of course, confrontation. it continues to grow, of course, different conclusions can be drawn about who will attack and who will counter attack? i very much hope, without revealing any secrets, that we will be and that we have enough strength and will and determination for this, but in order for all this to happen, we must put things in order in our heads and on the battlefield and in the deep rear. this still remains a task, despite all the fact that certain conclusions have been drawn during this time during the year of this special military operation. of course, they have already been done,
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igor igritsky at a party. i have a gypsy maria, polishchuk, who played ranevskaya in the series ranevskaya, this is a series about the phenomenal actress of the 20th century faina georgievna, ranevskaya hello you hello, i am glad to greet you mutually and now the name of faina ranevskaya is for well, at least those people who have already grown up hmm in non-soviet times , it became such an internet meme attributed to her a huge number, but different expressions, and she has already turned from an actress into a character, which is better known as aphorisms, yes, aphorisms and anecdotes. in fact, it is necessary to tell about her hmm fate and career at least in a nutshell, because she is extremely non-trivial. this girl was born in
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1896 in taganrog in a wealthy jewish family. her father was an industrialist, owner of factories, uh and steamboats. and moreover, dad wants, uh, she married, as i understand it, in order to combine capital for her son there friends and so on and so forth. i'm not sure that this is a story about a dad who wanted to marry her off to a young man from a neighboring rich family in order to pool capital, that this is a historical story. they are fantasy screenwriters screenwriters. yes, i don’t remember reading about it somewhere from the real story of georgievna taganrog. this is my native city. chekhov was thus tied up. uh, the fate of these two people, not only as a pseudonym. and which one did fain georgievna
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choose later? well, how hmm she was always scary she is proud that she comes from the homeland of anton pavlovich chekhov and, uh, her love for the theater, as she herself said, uh, manifested itself at the age of 5. she was, i understand, convinced that she would become a great actress. became a great actress. hmm, no doubt, but at first she led because. eh, it was still the russian empire, the life of a rich jewish girl who graduated from a gymnasium with all the attributes inherent in that time, that is, and she knew how to play musical instruments. pete knew languages. uh, yes, and i stuttered quite this set. she still depends, and, as i understand it, her family. hmm in a sense, did not support her theatrical everything. ways,
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because for some reason, her parents thought she was ugly and compared her to her sister, who everyone, in general, considered beautiful. let me say a few words about why we are talking about this at all now, because, as you know, a biographical series has now been released, which is called ranevskaya, and in connection with this. i would just like to ask you, or is it how much you deeply immersed in the biography of their heroine, and i plunged into the biography of fain georgievna ranevskaya and read books in every possible way. watched the interview. actually, the only thing is with natalya krymova and i endlessly reviewed the episodes and the performance further, silence, and so on and so on, but i persistently make excuses about myself. eh, i'll say it anyway. it is infinite that i did not play
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faina georgievna ranevskaya and played a certain character that we all fantasized together around certain starting points that we know exactly what happened, because there are a lot of invented things in this scenario. this work of art can be treated badly. well, eh, but just don’t demand historical accuracy from him, please. well, all the same, some traits you, uh, at least some starting points started there some bits, for example, yes, that she stuttered that she no of course, of course, a lot is based on her biography on that we know her biography, but by no means everything is cut. still, the fact is that yi's family migrated. this is a series is a fact, right? why do you think fanny, girshevna
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feldman, stayed for the love of art? this is absolutely accurate, and it seems to me, about this, again, in some rare scraps that have been preserved, and from really really her words. and this is exactly what she said, and not many of these endless anecdotes and aphorisms attributed to her. somewhere she said about this that he, well, of course, to the theater, because the theater existed not only in russia and in the russian empire existed in the russian empire. in russia, he rocked here chekhov was born in russia, that is, in fact , it seems to you that she is more likely out of love. i may be misinterpreting specifically to the great playwright. and the cover, i
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can’t take the liberty of answering uh for poing georgievna, but, for example, if you remember, again, i’ll probably refer to this all the time in an interview with krymova, when they asked her who your boss is director in life she said alexander sergeevich pushkin who is your teacher, she said stanislavsky that there are all the people by whom she was brought up, by whom she was brought up internally , it is not necessary that she be familiar with them. she was not non-slavic, except that there is a story when she shouted to him, my dear leontief lane boy, and for her it was absolutely impossible, well, not to live on the same land with them. after the war, ranevskaya was unsuccessful. hmm, she went to moscow and was not recognized as an actress. yes there, and her stuttering was some kind of barrier. uh, by the way it's yours, how would personal here's a notion.
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uh, how now she stutters, because we have not heard already. i read somewhere that she had hmm not a classic stutter, which is, well , the first thing that comes to mind when you hear a person stutters is the first thing that comes to your mind. she somehow had. otherwise, she stuttered in the eye. therefore, she dragged out words for a long time, and of course, no one has any audio recording of this, but if you listen very meticulously to even her age, and by talking and so on, you can hear echoes of this somewhere stuttering. it’s just that over the years of working with the let’s device, she learned to hide it and learned to use it in such a way that no one would notice it, but during the filming process, and somewhere, probably, in the second week of filming. hmm somehow it was abandoned.
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this. here is my attempt at authentic stuttering precisely through vowels, because it didn’t read like stuttering, like some kind of nonsense and a director. i remember i was told that come on this one, here do the normal de- do it. here, how, how a person will habitually perceive it and somehow this got stuck. i do not know what happened as a result, but i will remember that there was a story when we spat a little on this authenticity. you know, when i watched these episodes. uh, one of my na such hmm discoveries was that, well, in addition to the fact that you really somehow very much resemble fine georgievna. although i wouldn't say. with a face, but in a way yes, your voice is very, uh, consistent with well, as we remember, as fine dahlia used to say. at least when she was young in the films. it's just kind of mmm. well, such
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good luck, yes, that is, you, as it were , didn’t do anything on purpose. it's just that you have such a close personal no, well, i don't know. i 'm talking now , i don't try to talk in a low bass or in some other special way . here i have some suspicions. it's probably the right question to ask. e victims, but i have some suspicions that they were twisting something there. you think i don't know. i'm talking to you right now. i didn't look much myself. can't look at myself. absolutely. i just don't understand. i can't. yes, it's a disaster, but i watched and he knows my voice obviously perfectly. he said that something seemed to be here in places somewhere all of a sudden so once and somehow wuf. it's great. uh, of course, the second moment, which is in this series.
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well, at least it didn’t surprise me a little, but when there the father says to his wife, e you this ugly, then you want to make an idiot there, of course, looking at you it is very difficult to imagine what it is, well, in in general first of all reality. i don't really agree with you. and this is, firstly, secondly, uh, categorically different were the standard beauties. here, then i'll tell you more. uh, when i entered the institute in 2001, even when i came to you at the moscow art theater with my face , they told me, well, where, where? by the way, there are certain canons of how a person should look to me, i kept thinking, uh, it's true, really. so it's true, really so these canons that exist, in general, and hello, on the other
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side it played. that's it with faina georgievna, some kind of cruel joke, because after all, well, in the cinema, at least, these comic old women are endless. were they could not play or she was not allowed to play , uh heroes or not yes no, she could actually play anything and it was not for nothing that roosevel said about her that she was the great cane tragic actress after watching the film without uh dream. and yes, and. well, she really could, but no other disclosure was given, because we will come back and talk. why would i wanted us to look. any with pleasure always help the ambulance. uh, delirium tremens, delirium tremens, who is sick, i am sick
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margaritsilovich, leave mentally. i only saw the first two episodes of the series, and then the trailers there are this is the role. do you have? well, we didn't play. the entire movie, of course. spring we have a small stage. and most of all, this is beauty. this is this terrible, strong woman. what it is? how is the hat? where's your old man from? yes, this was sent to me from the fashion house. pretty, can i try it on? i'll be back soon, i need to go to the tishinsky market.
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it's just that there was nothing nonsense of the premiere on football with denis kazansky on sunday at the first in the big game big bookmaker wenline general partner of the russian premier league played a major role in the tv series ranevskaya a actually faina georgievna ranevskaya. we said we didn't give it to her. and why didn’t they let her, uh, play someone other than these eccentric ones. well, as a rule hmm what called role. yes, old women precisely
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because these standards of beauty do not correspond to these cuties. i think that , firstly, yes, secondly, uh, fain georgievna herself did not really strive for and but she was not very respectful, in general, she treated him. she loved the theater more and aspired only to it, and suffered that she had little work in the theater, and not in the cinema at all. well, i'm sorry, but you can't get away from the violent semitism in her face. like this. yes, of course, it’s interesting, and i also have a story that she doesn’t played the old uzgenstein. precisely because, oh lord, i don’t remember who now, but it’s even known who said it, that there can’t be a mother of the king of the jews of mordovia, understandably , understandably, her life was filled with some
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kind of tragic, some inconsistencies with what was happening around, where everyone on the wave in the victorious socialist revolution and so on made a career and so on, and fain is a dahlia. it seems that she went into some kind of internal migration and lived all her life alone she had, well, at the end of her life doggy, and the boy people did not understand. yes , we know this from documentaries. uh, the same krymov, when she told me there was no one to leave the boy with. and who is she talking to? well , before that, it was obvious that she somehow hmm did not, uh, correspond to everything in common. here is this ah. hooray for patriotism found nothing in this bolshevik revolution either. positive, as far as i understand, well , nevertheless, she had some roles. uh, in the movies , not like that, known as, for example, tapers from
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alexander parkhomenko or something else where she plays, for example, absolutely disgusting brilliantly absolutely plays with an american accent - i don’t remember how the movie motherland is, yes, yes, and here she is there, it’s just fantastic. this, firstly, it is impossible to know, then she had a frau. wurst is also such a vile thing, a creature from e, german, which means she adopted someone there, to torment these unfortunate children. there are some stories here and there. she played, uh, disgusting. well, in cinderella, it's still out of time, despite the fact that schwartz is schwartz, but nonetheless. it's still outside time here. and here, as it were, quite concrete, well, not a cheer for patriotism, but quite concrete, that is, that is, these good blacks and whites are bad. but in general, in
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principle, soviet cinema differed very much in this. i don't know what she is, uh, hmm , she was loyal. i do not think that i think that she was categorically against it, but she , nevertheless, judging by this example, allowed some microscopic episode. well, here is her famous this episode from the production of the storm. and where did she play the speculator manka well, yes, he obviously sends to some such stamp of the soviet era. although it is ingeniously played. you, by the way, we played it too. yes? well, by the way, i tried about manka in uh, again at the fish, he says how she treats such characters without any tenderness. well, naturally, because now it is sometimes accepted, well,
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to paint everything with one paint. and what happened there 100 years ago. well , it is clear that these were the events. it’s not just that, not from scratch, all the victories and all the disgusting failures that were, inherent in that time. of course, they were experienced by people, as if, as if they were their own. it’s not just some kind of fiction there, it’s clear that there were people like this manka, and i think that fain georgievna was also everything is unpleasant with her like that. eh, as i understand it, well, internal sarcasm is very serious. by the way, what role do you like the most? here are the ones you like best. i really like everything, uh, her little bits in the movies and all her roles and i really like how different it all is, i mean, i can't. here i am not i can choose one piece or one
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movie or something, because there are films that i have not seen at all in their entirety. and i only saw these little episodes with uh, let's go dahlia, huh? e, of course, he, that is, such a big story that i saw in its entirety, this performance is further silence, but i can’t do that either. e to fully say that i perceive it, the way it really was, because because the theater is you. yes, it's alive, it's living art, alive, alive, history, and uh, and and people who saw this performance said that they should go to it 2 3 5 times, because each time it is different, each time they played differently with growth. i. well, of course, this is the fixed second. do you think there is such an hmm opinion when we read ranevskaya that hmm she is closer to
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brecht's theater than to stanislavsky's theaters , although she denied this and said that stanislavsky was my favorite director there. the teacher, whom she saw once briefly, but saw many of his performances, well, of course, she studied at them. yes, and indeed she is. she played in the tairov theater, it's all, uh, the same, like a school, and here's the question. and when people watch some of her uh performances, they really hmm see that she deviates from the principles. stanislavsky , just this one from this theater of experiences gravitates more towards the theater of performances, like actresses. that's what it seems to me, it seems to me, it's just uh, i don't separate it. for me , you think that this is some kind of synthesis. yes , it seems to me, yes, it seems to me that the most beautiful artists are just those who can
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it is to combine when you know how to put on this kind of new mask every time. you manage to fill it alive. uh, live emotion with live feelings diary of the role, and u know the name of the dog that lived with you at the age of 5. well, so as not to deify. i’m completely, but it seems to me that it was very characteristic of her, just complemented. she did not leave, uh, the theater of experiences, but she enriched it with some additional colors. like, for example, there smoktunovsky yes, which is absolutely, but makeup, not makeup, is always different. at the same time, i can not say that he was not worried. c i mean, he didn't feel, i agree. it's probably
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some kind of organic, but such a connection with, i don't know, with the universe of great actors, uh, these things connect. that's for sure, right? since we are talking about the series i would like to see the trailer if there is a vacancy, we will let you know every morning and think of auditions, then until late in the evening weeping for you already exists you just have to try to get a free me. stutterer, remaining tongue voice, like a longshoreman connections are needed. i have connections only in the city laundry. and i will achieve everything myself, eyes, eyes, and character. i would try them all. this is one actress, what a disheveled beaver. i will invite you to star in my film, and prostitutes. yes, but you will play an honest
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woman of exceptional choice. bastard beauty is fear. i think, but to talk about it. if i began to describe, i would say that this is not a striker, but this is a play. a certain play based on motives and
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of course, in no case can you say that you really play this particular person in the circumstances. if you consider it like a play about it, then it turned out wonderful, and in fact. and this is very much what i think, and sometimes it is necessary for people who do it. well art is something in art. some kind of energy can pass through them. they may not understand this themselves, and therefore they need to be explained in general, they need to be told that guys, well, you made a theatrical, well , a cinematic play about this person, because you took a beautiful actress for the role of ugly ones, and so on and so forth. similar. and here uh, i'm not saying this as a compliment, really. this is the first thing that comes up. well, like, well, faming georgievna is still such a specific woman, and here in general. no, no, by the way, i also wanted to say, i
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understand that you were playing. uh, also akhmatova in another series. well, not on such a large scale , not not from 18:00 to 86 years old, but literally there, but it doesn’t matter how your career develops, that is, you play the great e phenomenal personalities of the 20th century. here is and this same this for good reason somehow. yes, what moves yours, and the producers and uh and the directors to take you to them there, i don't know they tell you, i understand that the similarity is just purely outward. i don't remember, i have two i have a broken nose. i don't remember which side i'm on. which profile is from which profile? in general, i am very similar to her, but i don’t know about ranevskaya, that is, from some profile, ranevskaya from some kind of ahmal, it looks like that one, yes. and by the way, when you think
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about how to play ranevskaya, how do you prepare, it takes some time, do you think about it, or do you drink this thing or does the director tell you? here she was as it happens. this is interesting. the first main task is to step over e, hysterical in the head of this one. who am i who is she? and inevitably i had to stop intuitively through this, after all, they played in the play. yes, because otherwise i fell into a stupor from the horror of responsibility from all this and from the thought of the endless thought that no one has this right and this cannot be done. this is bad. it is not right. can't be impossible. fu in place to lie. and the only thing that saved it this is the mantra - this is not e, yes, our character is called her georgievna raevskaya, but
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this is not faina georgievna ranevskaya - this is a certain character. this is the first task was to cross it. and everything else. well you're like any other role. whether you are an actress or a doctor or anyone you are, i am a bore, i am like that, i write down the roles in a notebook, keep a diary of the role. i have all this written on one side of the text on the other side of the background. everything means, this is this, this is all i am. at school, uh, from the beginning of what was conceived, then embodiment of the past. well, for the first time i personally auditioned for ranev’s young e, then i can’t say for sure, but it seems that either four actresses, or two actresses and 4 ages were supposed to play it, and in 2013 yes, it's the same project. just transferred or everything
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has changed there. i don't, i don't know, but what i noticed in the film, uh in this hmm, like a playmaker, neva she sometimes talks about these aphorisms that we hear. yes , this is, well, in your opinion, this is, as it were , done in order to make it more recognizable. i guess, that yes, but again, these are not questions for me, these are scriptwriters to the director and creative producers and so on, the actor, of course, they tell you unconditionally. yes, although, how did you allow them on the site how to improvise and somehow add something from themselves. well, somewhere yes, but here is such a very line. still , another time, another language, other manners of communication between people and, uh, completely go under yourself, well, like

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