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the teacher could not stand the professor removed him, but she screamed after him, but this is only for today. i am waiting for you. next time. she was wildly afraid, because students evaluate teachers and this plays a big role, as you know, whether they stay working or not. here is my very simple question. and we are well aware that in the treatment of quantity always beats quality. or maybe we should stop increasing the amount. why do we need so many universities of people with higher education. this is a general global trend. here he is us he is a university, that is, a mass university - this is a continuation of secondary education, a bachelor is, in fact, a high school graduate, yes, and about the idea of reducing education with a lack of specializations. after all, in theory, in our bachelor's standards, specialization is minimal, but at the same time, along with butter universities back. these exist cambridge exists ford exists ecoin in france
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yes, where the traditions of elite education are preserved there are closed universities with their own standards with their own criteria by its very high tuition rates. that is the massization of education. this is so for people who have to be able to push a button. here, and the elite retains the right to a quality education. it seems to me that to follow this double path, along which people walk from two heads. we don't deserve higher education. still, there should be a standard of higher education. here. uh, so far everything that is being done in terms of creating state standards has not contributed, but rather hinders the creation of a university future, because most likely we want to universalize the standards to impose them all on universities. well, you can't fi. in
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general, to teach in moscow, uh, just as i don’t know , there, uh, uh, i myself , different people came out in st. petersburg, and different traditions are developed somewhere in different schools. universities should be given the opportunity, uh, to create their own standards. but when we are allowed to pass our standards, here is the moscow university, for example, st. petersburg i wanted to say this, they are the same state standards. uh, well, turn it on there, there is something else that has all the possibilities for in order to make your standard. here we hear there is a second. we are sitting together, a representative of two universities, yes, which can do. actually, i, too, in the ernhem pie , we have realized the possibility of creating our own educational standards have passed. do you have an additional exam, or only for the unified state examination, well, you know medicine is such an area where so many unified state examinations are better. oh, how do you just want two words, so that you and i can’t
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complain. we have our own ability to create standards, as we want, and in general, everything is in your hands, i can say, that in the early days we realized what we want, but we have the opportunity with you, but on the other hand, standards are necessary, because at some points we even reach this level of those universities that could not do this and the success of the soviet educational system back in the day when you took people who couldn't read, but you had an amazing collection field and it gave you a splash. there in the sixties. these are the people that you educated, after the revolution, they launched gagarin, they uh, they came up with buran, they uh, they invented medicines and so on, yes, these are the people who , by the way, the values, uh, who created soviet science, studied back in the diet of gymnasiums. this is also a fact. just, of course, watch friends. it’s clear that we have warmed up so much today and the topic is complex hmm and
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interesting and god willing. let's get back to her. where would i like to end today? so tell me. hmm, such a thing for you, as university teachers, what is most lacking in freshmen who come to you with independence of independent thinking. they are very dependent on their parents. the opinions of comrades. they are often afraid to say their word after all. e in the soviet system. i think people have grown up. there were still a lot of rabfakovites there. and the army. so the atmosphere of the first year was very different, of course i say, well, i lack the same thing that freshmen lack what graduates lack curiosity curiosity is in the current moment that drives those people who go to universities in general, it’s still
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the way the world works, and not even physically. maybe spiritually in i don't know culturally politically all over how it works. they already know everything or are not interested, not interested. yes? this is the second time. well, as it were, i would like to sacrifice myself. i would like them to be ready to go to great deprivation for the sake of e not momentary benefits. well, that is, there are such psychological tests there, if you don’t eat candy now, then i’ll tell you through there the next day there are three candies and in life, when such test rights are given to children, it turned out that those children who did not eat candy were successful in life hmm unfortunately sometimes a momentary desire. uh, some easier life, higher pay. it happens, and spoils the plan of life. these people could be wonderful, there are some
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professionals, plus this is the spice, if they had been patient and would not have left immediately. eh, there are unconditional and vital circumstances. uh, the parental layer is not enough for someone or someone it is necessary, uh, champagne in the morning, and this is not enough for uh , such a salary means simple, but here is the possibility of deferred benefits and life planning for a longer, long term and a certain look. well, one step forward on the one hand, and on the other hand. understanding, understanding that life is finite, this connection is not enough. yes, i would like such children, because i build educational programs on them, but it’s hard, but they were the first professionals on the one hand and responsible citizens of their country. that's what i want to get from them, no, it's a little bit lacking. right now a new topic is asking, but we will assume that we have not finished and we still need to get together and think, and
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today we gathered with thoughts on the topic what is a university? why is it needed and i am very glad to thank alekseevich. kozyrev from which prokorchuk, if the leader vladimir is legoyd, well, a meeting. hello, i'm larisa guzeeva, this is a podcast of letters. today my guest is great galina konshina, a wonderful actress olga khokhlova, we will talk about the fine ranevskaya about the greatest coach nevskaya, both actresses play in the faina ranevsky theater. we play in different performances my performance. i've been playing him for 10 years. just uh, it's a coincidence. and what about
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your gift of parodyne in general? you could have her do one on one right like this on us i'm not doing a parody. i play by playing. she does not like this word, ranevskaya my my nevskaya is a very touching eighty -six-year-old single woman who can no longer live in this world with her remind the audience in some pieces of e action. replicas for her performances so that she was somehow recognizable, for example, there. well, what a handsome man he is . well, how? well, i mean, uh, the audience will recognize me, but that's also her role. it's not herself and she herself is different. here she is like me in an interview with natalia krymov, the last one is very touching, i deliberately leave
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this parody. well, because you are not playing the artist of the ranev bemocracy of a person. yes, and what is surprising is that the audience comes up, then they say, well, this is some kind of witchcraft, this is some kind of magic, especially one phrase that was expected from you, remind me of which you will do exactly one to one, like ranevskaya is beauty. yes, terrible power. and how are you? uh, well, basically, uh. yes, i do it, but it goes there after such an irony that the theater is now hmm another you enter there, as if in garbage and a wire, not a single person, only masks, nothing. i'll go to the seaside and immediately hide in the dressing room. the artists will start running. and i myself will throw myself to someone. yeah, uh, give me a couple of
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pre-heart attacks, because beauty is a terrible force. how do i love you? oh, do you play? what e? i want to supplement what galya said about the performance based on the same play and directed by the same person. lion's palcha, shilava the great you both play in the same mode. yes i'm playing. well, maybe she added her own jokes, so to speak, and so on. and we even have different names for faina's performances. and we have a lonely mocker, and well, as it were, why not? why, there are three sisters playing a lot of trumpets. that's right, of course, the name came up. i, because the original name was i , stanislavsky's miscarriage, i did not want to and they say miscarriage, because it tastes good. thank you. in general, the first performer, and faina georgievna on stage. except for
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the karkashka svetlana ivanovna, who plays and she is different. thank you for defending the title, and i think, faina georgievna . but it seems to everyone that since she swore, she was such an ulcer, but there was no vulgarity at all. eh, not one second. she had good taste. and she, uh, hmm, it was such a masterly presentation of everything. the first would say that this is vulgarity. yes, yes, of course, well, i want to say about how to play one on one or not one on one, the viewer is waiting for ranevskaya precisely ranevskaya, that faina georgievna will come out now and, of course, we are obliged to convey that here we are we play ranevskaya exactly one on one and always get annoyed about it applause when it is recognized, yes, then the director staged this performance for me. it’s as if i’m going out for her, so that everyone knows and loves her, as
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if as you know, as if you remember something once again. and when she walks there between us between the audience. i can feel her presence directly. it is sometimes present and such energy. it turns out that the audience doesn’t even need to, they just listen and that’s it, you know, they laugh and cry with us and therefore. uh, the more ranevskaya, the more nevskaya performers, the better, and i’m watching this one in the film, i want to tell you that i’m looking forward to every episode, because it’s not important even i don’t find fault and don’t ask questions. i'm just glad and happy that i see the image of faina georgievna. i think that ranevskaya is already a myth. legend about her. so many overgrown with various. yes, they are written so much that we like. eh, we can hardly add anything. although i have one
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story still overgrown. how much is attributed to her. yes, there is such a phrase in the text. e in a dialogue with a friend. she says faina well, you just need to write down after you and i say ninochka. you know what is already writing down the worst that is attributed. i don't know what i said anymore. i even arrest that. aristotle said yes, you see how we agreed in different ways. it's perfect. well, that sounds like a real talent. this is self-doubt and painful and dissatisfied with yourself and your shortcomings. which i have never met immediacy. i don't recognize words to play you can play cards at the races, checkers on the stage. i need to live, i receive a letter. help me become an actor, answering god will help once, uh, i wrote ahmadully, the more the name
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is famous, however, it is not solved, and this is what you can say by the name of ranevskaya so that they don’t write after all, u, i’m defining for myself. what is it here is this mystery is a mystery and what is the secret of such a long popularity in different countries and among a variety of people. leaned down and got to know this talent charlie tea roosevelt yes, yes the president or the opportunity to see the film is a dream, but therefore for me, here, it seems to me, is the secret of this popularity in that extraordinary depth, which maybe not everyone even understands initially when they see her image of a human personality, therefore it passes through the screen through the frame, because the personality of the actor this is all. i need to
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talk about something today. here's how she's beaten since childhood. she was an absolutely happy child, but with an exalted mother, of course, this exaltation was transmitted to her, which then flowed out. it’s her in some kind of depth, uh, in her curiosity for life, but it all comes from childhood, how she was not disappointed in humanity, how she was not disappointed in people. she after all by and large good, saw nothing, was disappointed. larisa she wrote, but still it didn't turn into hatred. she didn't . this is another disappointment. yes, not always carved into hatred. this is watery longing for those, uh, gone to akhmatova. in pushkin about about pushkin about this love and jealousy for natalya for his ex-wife. it's me i hate his wife. he was looking for a duel, he says, she says, she simply hated natalya, as if she were alive, and they lived at the same time, and they lived in the neighborhood, and they
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had the only lover they fought for him. when you were wondering , they lived in the wing, yes, which natalya goncharova lived from pushkin why didn’t she write about herself? yes, memories, memoirs are just memoirs, everyone writes about themselves, i don’t know, the cook said, it would be a book of complaints. yes , if they are pestering you to write a refusal about yourself. i don't want to write bad things about myself. good indecent. so we must be silent. i know the most important thing, i know what to give, not to take. so i live with this bestowal memories are the wealth of old age. if i gave in to requests, i began to write about myself. it would be a mournful book, for 3 years i wrote a book of memoirs, fasting 2,000 rubles on you. in order to purchase a warm coat. i guess i broke everything and the advance in vain. now we have to return. god bless them with the money i will collect, i will give an advance. well, this is how
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the diaries work, but she also wrote. uh, letters, maybe from childhood that dad was a rich man, and she was, as it were, unloved in the family, because she was ugly, maybe it's girls. that's not how it happens. we are all mothers. why, when she writes that she is the daughter of a poor man, they are all industrialists. well, we understand that irony. anyway, for example, i don’t really believe that her parents directly told her in the eyes faina you are such an ugly girl bella was just very beautiful, yes, she accidentally heard her, a random conversation between mother and father. this is it, she already conveys it this way. well, how would we. we are from her. they learned that children are such dreamers, in fact, jewish, family, orthodox. uh, rich parents do not happen for the beauty of children they do not like, on the contrary, maybe there is no father with grief, what did he say? poor mother, well, how
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will she live? uh, how will she find you a husband? she also stutters to everything else. let's tell the audience, because of what she began to stutter, the actress felt herself at the age of five, her little brother died. i regretted his day crying and yet moved back the curtain on the mirror to see how unhappy she became in tears. at the age of six , the governess took me to a visiting menagerie. in a small room, a thin fox with human eyes sat next to me. there was a trough on the table, in which two spiny dolphins swam. drunken, noisy ragamuffins entered and began to poke the dolphin's eyes, from which blood spattered. now. i am 76 years old. all 70 years. i was tormented by these. well, well, horror, but horror no, but this one characterizes her impressionability of such humanity. she began to stutter. yes since then . yes, she really
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in relation to people, she was ready to give everything. yes, being harassed at the elevator theatre. well, that's all too. we, to me, to whom, on the contrary , developed some kind of character in her. maybe through this pity some kind of pity. e to people, as to others. this is such a dramatic pity that this is what was expressed. is there some kind of human love there, or what? yes, yes, yes, yes, it's so peculiar, love is pity, love of course, that's it. uh, when she got paid. she sent money envelopes to her friends envelope in your salary. that's how it is, maybe a lot of people turned to her for help. she helped anyone. take take, i don’t need anything, he had a lot in the refrigerator, but from time to time some people came and took
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sausage from her there, this opinion is impossible. take the french perfume sent from paris, i don't need to take it, she said, but i'll die. uh, no one will ever know what good taste i had. eh, remember, yes, because well dressed. uh, hmm worse than mediocre has been in all along girlfriends lyubov orlova about which she said that wardrobe, uh, in which the moth would not have learned to fly. yes, there would be no place for molly and despite this character. this is love for people. she still experienced so much in her life in connection with this surname feldman and in connection with this. and that every time i filled out, but this e questionnaire, where it was necessary to fill out the fifth article. that's what a useful character that the soviets told him, that when she joked everyone laughed, but young artists were sitting next to them, and they were running under
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back from horror and admiration from this woman with an iron will. but who did she love, what do you think, well, except for her dogs, which she was simply betrayed to the last bowed before kachalov. well, she pumped it, yes, and he heard and answered this love. well, not that and love, probably, yes, which she expected from a man, but he knows she didn’t even expect her, to be honest, because she was such a pension there, because the very first in the letter she writes if i already have she to faint. she saw him and fell to faint. in general, remind me what she says, but about her darkness then it was very natural. i was born at the end of the last century, when i still had fainting spells. i didn't like to faint. there i never hurt myself, i tried to fall gracefully over the years, this hobby passed, but one of
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the fainting spells brought me great and long happiness whom she was madly in love with. i collected his photographs. wrote his letters. i never send them, when i heard his voice, i fainted unsuccessfully and hurt me badly, they dragged me to the location next to the confectionery and put me on the couch. several years passed and she took courage and wrote him a letter, writing to you in stoleshnikov lane. once i heard your voice, i fainted. i am already an aspiring actress came to moscow with the sole purpose of getting into the theater, when will you play another purpose in life? now i don't have and won't have a letter. i remember by heart i composed it for several days, otherwise the answer came very soon, dear. faina , please contact the administrator, who will have two tickets of your
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kachalov from this evening in your name. until the end of the life of this amazing artist, our friendship lasted, which i am very proud of and about the falls, and mom and dad feldman lived quietly in taganrog and you are a field mar. the devil took moscow to become an artist, and she knocks money out of dad, my god, what kind of fights were those, how was i perfectly able to faint then? at that time, i was perfectly able to faint. that's it means that you fainted and gave money. and how many gave no? i had to crash down again and, for greater fidelity, knock the vase head down on the floor. then i did not breathe for about 10 minutes, he took out his wallet and surrendered. well, she has an actor among the kind of human tragedy. i can't imagine, for example, uh, one man's wife. i consider a single mother.
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yes, and i can't even imagine it. i'm not because she was insanely busy. there in the theater or in the cinema. she had a lot of free time. it wasn't like that. sorry because the grandson of shcheglov who are irina e, they are wulf e, that is, pavel leontiev, you are her teacher, the second mother, who yes, there was a daughter. and so, when she gave birth to alyosha shcheglov , she considered him her grandson, and moreover, she was a crazy grandmother, if he left somewhere she wrote a letter, how did you arrange it? e, alyosha this is a grandmother. eh, there ranevskaya writes. he says i was amazed. and i have, for example, there uh, in such a text. yes , i should have given birth to a grandson. hmm, there were no times when children were born. christmas tree, got to read pushkin's fairy tales. so
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it could be. the fact is that the tragedy with marshal tolbukhin, who is not a legend. no , this is not a legend service, in any case, yes. well, very deep, of course, no one held. well, why two adults with such respect, relating to each other, could have helped further, er, but there they developed. no, he was not married. he was the widower of his death. e brought her, in general, to a complete state. uh, the despair of loneliness and and yearning for all kinship that this went on until the end life. she could be, well, didn't add up to regret it. she says, lord, yes, why is it like this all my life without a family, without children, without roles, like a cow not yes, why do you seem to feel it, this is very conscious for
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a billion 40 billion, staff, 9. i am in the hands of my choke on that cousin, if he doesn't sign these, oh, you're the end of us, you need to sign here he signed. no, it's not that, alien, but i also want to use my skills. pierrot you took adrian the chauffeur in front. now i'm your chauffeur, not your cousin. what does he want his? he wants to be with me in the car in my house everywhere is very sensitive his mood changes in an instant. i want to get off. i won't breathe for you anymore. what are you doing and getting love and seeing that they are loved everyone has a cousin, my cousin premiered on friday at
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strengthen the immune system and live lactobacilli to restore the microflora two actions to strengthen. this is a podcast of letters, we are talking about faina ranevskaya and i have two beautiful actresses galina finished and olga khokhlova why was she not given a role? i want to say that we are all unhappy with our acting fate. she is the winner of three stalin prizes in a number of states. yes, this is some kind, i am grateful to you that you say this. faina georgievna was blaska, brezhnev liked to listen, which uh, yes, i pray, well, of course, which i once quoted. uh, molly, don't make me nervous. she said, well, leonid ilyich, tell me, i only know from rumors that the boys call me that on the street hooligans and you are not ashamed. yes yes and who are you hooligans or yes, yes
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there was respect, she herself with her own character. eh, well, spoiled a little about myself. you can say, of course, actresses do understand. actors that it is not always possible to say everything, what did you think of the truth? yes, of course, many had a hard time with her. yes, i'm afraid when it fills, what did she say to zavadsky, yes? yes, yes, yes once yuri zavadsky shouted in the hall to the actress warriors georgievna, you gobbled up my whole directorial plan with your acting, here i have the feeling that i ate crap retorted raevsky with rapture. i would beat all the hacks in the face, and i endure i endure ignorance i endure lies, i endure, miserable existence. eh, i endure semi-beggars and i will endure until the end of my days i endure even the royal saying from the factory, generated by her friction on professional grounds. with yuri zavalovsky. do you know what the factory dreamer is dreaming that he is already buried in
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the kremlin wall, but this person allowed herself what none of us can afford, it's true, imagine that her beloved, she thought so, that's her daughter. e wolf pavel leontievna. she was married to zavadsky, and he left her. she took it as a mother and married a sailor or something else like this one in general , which has crooked legs and she’s just, well, like a horse on a race, that is, you understand, and as a mother she could afford a rather sharp expression who will like it young actors. eh, they were scared. she told everyone my boy. this is her eh. eh, human dog. she immediately identifies bad people, and he starts barking at them. there was horror in the theater when this dog entered and approached everyone, everyone expected that now she was barking and
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everyone would understand that it was dangerous, for example, a young actress or a young actor in disfavor in my st. george, to whom she could tell everything about his talent. it's in such complexes. you can drive. a person either from the roof or from the profession, you understand forever the test, what test you will withstand or not withstand it is stupid, because talented great people of genius, they always notice talented people anyway, and yet. first, they will try to what extent he will endure their mockery, and then with her lover, how were they afraid of her? once , on the set of her permanent make-up artist, either fell ill, or simply did not come one way or another on the spot. he was gone after a solid scandal. ranevskaya agreed to replace her timidity with a young girl just after graduation. she was already half swooning from the consciousness of who i would have to work with, and this scandal channel final obviously. i wish to cheer up the newcomer, ranevskaya decided
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to talk to her about married life, she asked, she had no hands, the girl took a chance and approved well. faina georgievna, i remember when in odessa they deprived me of my innocence and screamed. so the cities fled. you are here. in general, she has such a phrase as a whip. this is just an excerpt, and about love, about that, when they were deprived of their virginity, everything that happens in bed has nothing to do with love. that is love. here, for example, with the marshal. eh, not at all sure that they had some, maybe they had a platonic love. and this is quite possible. she is olya, even i am already at that age when you understand that e bed love is generally different incarnations one to the other. in general, it has nothing to do with it. yes, it's harmonic even that you don't have such your age, he tells me. i adore you, and you will be desired at any age. thank you very much, yes, i asked for it, but
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i really understand that all my life i have been married to those with whom i have a tie i was torn, that's who i wanted to give birth to. that's who in bed with. i ran to marry them, and i thought it was love. true, this love has nothing to do. oh well, okay, let's, we're still talking about love. e about that dot who, uh, she loved before she loved orlova love orlova lyudmila and love. she was a little offended when alexandrov invited her to the role there, er, mother. he said how we are with any of the same age. it's just that she attributed 10 years of her own there. and i'm a fool. everything is just two years everyone who loved me did not like me. and whom i loved did not love me, who would know my loneliness. damn this same talent that made me unhappy my appearance spoiled my personal life lonely mortal anguish. i am 81
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years old. i’m sitting in moscow, summer, i can’t leave the dog, they rented a house for me outside the city from the toilet in may. maybe one lover of the house closet, old age - it's just a testament. i believe that this is the heaven of god when he allows you to live to old age, lord already everyone is gone. and i still live. it seems to me that a lot here again i say it was exaltation, a lot was invented. i want to tell you now it's scary, but look, but today psychologists are working. yes, there you never know what happened to you, there is such an opportunity and the psychologist explains everything to you about himself. and you kind of think, the truth is , i have bipolar disorder. i'm mentally not worried about the person. well, really, i don't know. no, i just don’t know about myself. they prescribe you some pills. you become more even stop cutting yourself you stop tearing yourself, you stop eating your nails, because they gave you the tablets , they explained to you that this is not. you don’t need anything terrible there with a blanket, but at night under
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the pillow i think that it’s somehow not like that. just a little correction for you. i think that, uh, faina georgievna also had some problems. well, such a psychological property and a sacrifice for today, of course it would be. uh, they would correct it, she would like to tell you the first half of the letter, which marilyn monroe could have written in the same way i lonely and my appearance is to blame for everything, because beauty is also, in the literal sense , a terrible force. here is a terrible force, and everything is torn there, that is, uh, this letter. i thought this was a letter. i do not know his artist, to well, not a prominent appearance. well, they are lonely too. well, sometimes they have some random men even somehow manage to get the child's parents from one of them and live and understand. well, like my mommy, she talked all the time, according to her clothes, stretching her legs. well
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, yes, well, so that's nature to me, too. here today gave here to go crazy. i still want from you what was? eh, what's the matter? why was faina georgievna so lonely and why did she consider herself such an unfortunate choice. it is mine. uh, such a belief is a choice. uh, people are getting more and more annoying. and the less i communicate with them, the better i feel, because, in fact, the people whom she loved are no longer there, they are all there, and here she says, it’s hard for me to be a genius among the boogers, that is, she felt herself aware that she, of course, and now, when i get used to it, everything is in her, uh, i’m different from that longing, which i also have. hmm, for the ones
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i was madly in love with. now i can't love madly. i can tolerate someone. here you go. and i want it to be like that, because when it was impossible to live without it, and she, as an actress, she didn’t get it galina and some questions, some questions she answered herself well, as if trying on a role, here i’m immersing myself, and in the history of the george foundation , something in your particular life has changed , for example, it has become easier or vice versa, or in general, something went on for some tenth plan. i, uh, in general, as a system of values , somehow, uh, something has changed. no, i'm just amazed at how similar we are, i apologize for such a comparison, because for those who, uh, don't know me well, because i, too, uh, there are madly in love with the theater and nothing in life. when i hear some actress talking, i was walking by with my friend. and here we are. i feel bad at heart, because i didn’t want to see anything else in my life. i'm
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madly in love with the theater, if i don't go on stage, i'm dead, i would be golden. my god, that's why you play ranevskaya, because the nature of psychophysics has fallen. yes , you can’t run into the theater with a kandachka, you can’t play it, and then you can’t bring it to a restaurant with a girlfriend. yes, and so i say that yes , i am offended by directors who tell me that you are a comedian there. you can't play there some, well, i think it's so stupid. uh, i say i'm uncomfortable too, because i'm constantly bringing my lyrics to the director. i say, it seems to me that right here, right there, inviting me there , right there, lord, there was a movie recently. e on the role of a concierge. i say ok. i 'm ready, because uh, anything, but shameless just no. no, i say, come on, everything, characteristically play. come on, it will be eastern even a woman obeys him
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