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still can't talk to me. get someone to replace you immediately. and it's defective. send it back to hell. today we are discussing the ongoing military operation in ukraine president putin's statement on the motives of the west in the conflict with russia well, of course, we will talk about the upcoming visit
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of xi chairman to russia and, uh, not only why and why does the chinese leader want to come here well, how to it reacts, the united states, but let's still start with the situation in ukraine with us, lieutenant general yevgeny burinsky. you are closely following the events taking place there and want to understand. what is the dynamics of the situation, because the versions in washington, moscow and kiev are very different, and in washington, as you probably know , yevgeny, on the one hand, emphasizes the growing capabilities of ukraine and what they can launch a successful offensive, and on the other, almost hysterical statements about how ukraine allows itself to be scattered on the defense of not so important non-strategic
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objects, and how it may not have enough forces to launch a long- awaited counteroffensive, what you think is happening actually know very really very conflicting information, especially with regard to ukrainian ones. e. the actions of the ukrainian command, but of course, now everything is focused on the fact that the russian grouping has the initiative along the entire front line in the donbass and uh, of course, the main thing is bakhmat, but the same is avdiivka on uh. the direction of the criminal marinka, there is also a promotion going on. e russian troops. uh, but uh, the most basic, of course, is bakhmut on one side. uh, there is information that practically uh, the ring is already closing, there remains
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there are 4 km, moreover, along the fields along the sour black soil, that is, the possibility of neither transporting ammunition nor e, transporting other elements of logistics e, e exporting the wounded from the ukrainian e, grouping. no, according to an estimate, from 10 to 12,000 military personnel are concentrated there in the bakhmat itself. yes, in the bakhmat itself, that is, if the ring closes and, uh, then it will be the second girl in terms of numbers. e, located there, and the troops are the second debaltsev. on the other hand, there is information that the ukrainians are preparing there. well , there are eight different brigades, there are 10 brigades, including two armored ones, er, which are aimed at deblocking. uh, bakhmut strike e in the flank of our group, which is blocked by
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e, bakhmut, but we'll see. e. prigozhin says that the situation is difficult, but it is really difficult, because i say e. i repeat that the fight in the city is the most difficult kind of military operations. therefore, what is now necessary is to pick out ukrainian servicemen from again from the same catacombs of the next plant, like azov steel. this also does not e add. uh, ease of achievement success, but nevertheless everything goes to the fact that e-e smell will still be taken as well as e. avdiivka from the other side. today there was a message that zelensky held , uh, another meeting of his headquarters, and it was decided to continue the resistance , let's see, but these uh assessments
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of the americans, the americans, of course, are waiting for some kind of counteroffensive. moreover , the americans, in my opinion, have already given up on the donbass, they believe that the donbass is the lost and, uh, an important offensive somewhere in the south. will it? zaporozhye will it be kherson in melitopol while it is not clear to trust what the newspapers write, this may well be. you may well be such a company of disinformation, but the most logical, of course, where they could launch a counteroffensive, is, of course, yuh, although on the other hand, i do not get tired again. this is repeated without air support in open areas, having no advantage in almost any component. no, no superiority. in the air without superiority in the armor of armored vehicles without superiority in artillery to carry out a successful offensive operation. especially in well-fortified
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areas. unlike the same. eh, raisins. uh, now, uh, the russians have learned the lessons of the russian command and a really very good fortified area has been created in the southern direction, which will be, well, extremely difficult for the ukrainians, but the general is about aviation. uh-huh, let's hear what the representatives of the state department have just said about the delivery of possible and american aircraft specifically f-16 to ukraine regarding the issue of the f-16, what we have done is provided to our ukrainian partners. they need everything to wage a war in which they are not involved at the moment and based on the development of events on the battlefield. and you don't have to take our word for it on the effectiveness of this approach.
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you can look at the integrity and resilience of our ukrainian partners, but also at the success that all of this has led to, and which, in some ways, was made possible by the huge amount of military aid provided by the united states. and 50 more countries around the world this solution, which we accept, taking into account the changing conditions, precisely, defining the needs for dialogue with our ukrainian partners in dialogue with our partners in europe in nato and also around the world, as i understand it, this decision by washington is connected not only with the fact that ukraine does not ready for the development of these aircraft, but also with the fear of escalation. and this means that the united states , unlike the situation with tanks, will most likely not put pressure on the american partners of the fan to supply combat aircraft to ukraine
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. however, there was just a message that more is going to supply mig-29 to ukraine. i don’t know any details, but from what you know, can these situations with possible deliveries to ukraine uh, somehow uh change the situation with aviation, which at this stage cause uh , do you have the feeling that ukraine has no chance of a successful offensive? no, well, firstly, we are talking about the mig-29, that is, but soviet aircraft. they can naturally be based on the territory of ukraine e, here e such an escalation that would inevitably have been in the event of delivery, aviation combat, technology is not important to you in the sixteenth, rafaeli mirages. uh, there are eurofighter typhoons. uh, they cannot be serviced and repaired on the territory of ukraine, that is, they had to be based
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outside the territory of ukraine. and this is already a new qualitative level. this is already an escalation. moreover, such a normal good escalation with a capital letter is fraught with a transition, and this e war. a completely new quality with unpredictable results, as for the mig-29, firstly, we are talking about a very limited number of these aircraft there in within ten. eh, they're all over. uh, practically raked out of the countries of the former warsaw pact. uh, to have a twenty -ninth isu, therefore, what ukraine now has there are several dozen combat-ready aircraft. they i assure you will not decide. e. the outcome of any offensive counter-offensive, they will be completely, obviously suppressed by the aircraft of the next generations, which are
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in service with the russian federation, the same su-35s. that is, mig-29 is far away, not the last russian term, of course, of course, no, this is a soviet aircraft. this is a plane eighties. eh, and i doubt it? that e? well, maybe the poles. uh, somehow it was modernized, trying to adapt it to some nato standards. maybe the orionnik electronics were changed there, but again, i say, the number of these planes and the planes themselves. i think this should not be underestimated aircraft. this is a combat unit, which is natural. it can e launch missiles on bombing strikes, but at the same time, i repeat once again the russian aerospace forces, it’s not that they, in my opinion, are not even involved by 20 percent. uh in this special operations. i’m telling this to me, even about strategic aviation, even
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front-line aviation and bomber aviation are far from being fully involved, so i think that if it comes to air battles, uh, you know, the chances for ukrainian airmen, i was talking. uh, with the headquarters ergent source. uh, and he said very close to what they said it turned out to be correctly understood, namely that without the advantage in aviation and even though russia would most likely have the advantage, the ukrainian offensive cannot be completed a strategic breakthrough, but he made a distinction between a strategic breakthrough and some kind of tactical success and said that here, of course, if ukraine had received. not the equipment already that she was promised, and the new artillery that i promised, then, as he said, e, of course, we would have coped with this, but we would have to sweat. well, you see
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, dmitry, again, uh, everything, he decides. i understand that uh . uh, the russian russian group has learned a lot of lessons in this year. uh, past combat operations learned a lot to act much more effectively. well, then the quantitative factor still matters. yes, but within. uh, if everything is in the circle everything that is promised will be delivered, but it will be 100 tanks. well, talk about the statues, when here is the last one, well, there's no need to even. uh, it's not at all a secret anymore when the echelons go with the russians. t-90 breakthrough e with modernized t-70 second echelons just go uralvagonzavod works non -stop in three shifts. uh, they're loading
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battalion sets, almost every 2-3 days. but, that is, uh, i don’t see, of course, i say again to underestimate the enemy - this is the last thing, of course, these heavy tanks. uh, they are dangerous, but they have a lot of vulnerability, a lot of vulnerability, and our uh, military personnel know about it from the challengers. about even the same leopards. i don't know, well, we'll see, i say life will show, but i'm still optimistic about the outcome. uh, perhaps their collisions of our armored vehicles and armored vehicles, which will delivered in ukraine thank you for your informing. and with us now sergey luzyanin is a well-known expert on china in the far east. i want to ask about the level of your optimism about the upcoming great chant, firstly, how this is it
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and secondly, what do you say in a nutshell? well, according to unofficial yet unconfirmed data, march 21-22 is the date for this start of the visit. this is 10 years old. after the first 10 years ago, for the first time, si flew to moscow, i remember well ongi my speech to carry. i listened to this speech then for the first time one belt was heard one way and many new then initiatives today. of course, uh, russia is waiting for the chairman. moreover, he was re-elected for a third term, and the result of the session in the npc snp. he formed a renewed team, which actually took up their government posts, led by a lityan and six vice-premiers. and most importantly, of course, his visit is both strategic for both sides and tactically applied. i would say so strategically, because this is what
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putin and xi jinping signed, and on february 4, 22, 20 days before the start. and it is clear that this block of political documents, and trade this bloc was economic. well, let's say, it is calculated relatively speaking for peaceful time in quotation marks. a year has passed, the situation has changed radically, and despite the fact that formally china takes a friendly neutral position, it published the well-known 12 points on its peace initiative, which was actively discussed, but they still perfectly understand that a new one is needed. russian-chinese road map, taking into account the radically changed, changed conditions of their colossal sanctions, including on china and in general, as it were, the spirit of the times is one thing the situation is up to its own in the same chinese-american or in the russian one today, so xi jinping, most likely, and putin will discuss two, as it were , levels, but issues. well, it is clear that
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we are not expecting any strategic union. of course, we are not waiting. the parties do not want it, but the problem is that the level of strategic and regional cooperation has risen by an order of magnitude. this is the first and the middle east and other regions and east asia the second, of course here. this is the new roadmap in quotation marks. i would single out three or four key components, especially important for russia especially important for russia, of course, it is necessary. we all know the colossal trade turnover, the growth of 190 billion dollars, but this year we will reach a higher 100 billion dollars. that's right, a colossal growth. yes, therefore, look, but well , it’s clear that it is necessary. hmm qualitatively, uh, increase it to saturate it. it is clear the hydrocarbon part is the basis. but of course, uh, this is the unblocking of the still remaining exports to russian chinese imports of individual options that are connected uh with uh, well with
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uh. well, so to speak, but china's desire to avoid secondary sanctions, a separate private corporation, need further deepening along the way floor. unblocking china should stop being afraid of these secondary sanctions, because in any case, regardless of the level of integration with the chinese united states, one way or another, everyone will impose these sanctions on it from their side, the second military-technical cooperation, the most delicate and difficult issue, so to speak, and no one does not know supply china does not supply. yes, this is not discussed, because in russia its potential is absolutely in terms of weapons, but there is an official military-technical cooperation track, which , by the way, has existed since the nineties, and the nineties, two thousandth russia fully provided china but not completely. well, as it were, from the main source of weapons and so on. today the situation has changed, of course. at the official level , further military-technical expansion is needed, and ties between russia and china are included. well, this is my
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personal opinion, and the component of radiation, of course, is cooperation in the space sphere. and of course the connection. lukashenka's belarusian and partners were in china , a number of agreements were also signed there , that is, this military-technical side is very important, but most importantly, hydrocarbons are the basis of the russian chinese track. why 190 yes? because what was partially going back is blocked by these explosions, the well-known explosions of the northern streams, of course, will be reoriented to china, but there are also a number of difficult issues related here. and, of course, agreement. still a lot of dumping. no, we don't know for sure, but some there is, of course, a percentage of dumping, but this should not violate the confidential nature of russian-chinese relations, since after all this is very important for russia in terms of sources. and if you take it as a whole, then, of course, putin xi jinping summit is moscow, well, in a sense
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, this is a mass. or even a challenge. and washington, you correctly noted that in fact, in the conditions of hmm, very difficult chinese-american relations, but this visit will be. well, let's say, uh, as it were, except for the economic and geopolitical part, he will have, as it were, such a value mental characteristic in terms of, well, the rapprochement of these two countries of russia and china, and therefore, of course, the visit is simple, but i won’t say that historically, but it’s kind of strategic, very key, very important in model upgrade plan russia china 20-23 sergey thank you very much. we will return to some of these issues, and i will especially be interested in your views on the new chinese diplomacy towards saudi arabia early. we will return to this a little later. and now i would like to talk to you. uh, professor milovidov regarding the financial
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crisis in the united states, i am sure you know quite a lot about this crisis and i will have more for you. answer question, we 'll just talk in more detail about america's financial problems. but i have a specific question for you. that's what happened now that will have some mediation for american foreign or financial policy of her. if you want the russian dimension, there is something here that we should know in moscow, as a thing that is directly related to russian interests. well, you know here the direct connection definitely. no, e, because after all, what is happening now. uh, although it is noisy and loudly covered in the press and has a very large resonance, but so far the first signals speak of some, so to speak, for the time being, the local part of this problem, but that is what is happening now.
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uh, this is, first of all, uh, pure historical is a kind of repetition. uh, the events of eighty- three. yes, in general, from the beginning of the eighties of the united states, when, by the way, in the eighty-third year, a bank was formed, uh, silicon valley, just this year. uh, then too there was high inflation, then it was also a problem for the savings institutions of the united states of america at that time, due to the fact that the growth of, er, interest rates. e, in terms of deposits, e did not correspond to the conservative asset that was then in the financial institution. here it is after 40 years. uh, actually a bank set up in the conditions. in these difficult conditions, then he stepped on the same rake and , well, how to say that only, uh, the fault of management or something else like that would also be wrong. why because is this a consequence? here we can draw
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parallels with, uh, broader financial problems, including for russia the consequences of the monetary policy that has been pursued in recent years. at first, there was a sharp, so to speak, facilitated e preferential, when the economy was pumped up with money, and then it began to change sharply to what is called a credit monetary contraction, associated with an increase in interest rates and a decrease in liquidity in the economy and, in fact, banks that had own assets e reserves e, long-term debt obligations to the us treasury, with an increase in interest rates, they faced a depreciation of their assets by a fall, reserves that needed to be replenished. including by trying to enter open markets to place their securities. this caused fears of investors to run on the bank and close them as a result. but this is kind of the outline of the situation, but if we look a little
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deeper, we will see that in fact the problem with possible financial holes in piva can be observed in much larger american financial institutions. i i mean pension funds that invest heavily in us government securities, and the problems that the silicon valley bank had could potentially take place in this area. and there, sorry, not 200 billion dollars of assets, there are trillions of dollars in us pension funds and the collapse can have a very serious defender of the second moment, but these banks that have now ceased to operate. they were closely associated with the new branches of the economy, and were associated with a clientele that was very active in script e assets. a. this, too, may lead investors to start, uh, fear, basically, working with new technological tools.
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and this can lead to a very serious collapse of the us stock market and finally, the third point that they are now sounding in the press, just a recent comment by jennette helen proves that she is simultaneously being asked questions about both the silicon valley bank and the us national debt ceiling that have reached their limit and these things are interconnected and today e is not a solution to the problem public debt. might actually have, uh hmm, serious implications for the entire financial system of the united states of america with all that it implies, and american foreign policy efficiency, of course, because it's budget-related, it's cost-related. and the costs need to be financed by debt. this is where the strategic link with russian interests can be viewed in the medium term. thank you very much, we will now go out for a short commercial and will be back in just a few
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hands, leading employers are waiting for our graduates who can both think and act as a professional. you are in good company. there is something that has popped up. just where there was nothing was nonsense on football with denis kazansky on sunday at the first big game the big bookmaker is the general partner of the russian premier league there komsomolskaya pravda alexander well
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, you know, i have a feeling that what is happening on earth is slightly at odds with by what westerners teach their audience mass media. today, there is a lot of discussion about the publication in the washington post that kiev is not capable of strong large-scale offensives, that it has untrained personnel from among the mobilized, and almost all professional military personnel either died or were injured and cannot continue hostilities , but here on earth it all looks different, because, and on the sector of the front on which i work, this is artyomov. this is their matchmaking line. still, resistance, but the enemy provides fierce fights literally for every bush for every meter for every entrance to every house, that is, there is no such thing that, uh, somewhere the enemy ran, left positions without a fight, but surrendered, they don’t exist, the enemy is really a very serious enemy, but well prepared and armed and uh, no one here counts for
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an easy victory due to publications. and in the western press at the svatov border , the forward movement of our units continues - this is not a large-scale one. and the entry is, as they say here, active defense. she is to withstand dagger attacks first. uh, the enemy in our positions, then catch him on the counterattack. moreover , we know the area here, but we have been fighting for more than a month and all those strongholds that are now occupied by the armed forces. ukraine was once, uh, under our control, so moving forward, but in that sense, probably a little easier is very good. artillery is now working on strongpoints . including high-precision artillery. daily. uh, western samples are being destroyed technology. just yesterday , two m77s were destroyed on the sector of the front where i worked, and high-precision ones are used, and the ammunition is kamikaze lantz drones. here they are highly praised.
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they were previously used exclusively by special operations forces. now it is clear that e is this type of weapon. ah, apparently, he got into the industrial flow, and now both the paratroopers and the motorized riflemen and the unit have it. e of the first e, the corps of the donetsk and luhansk corps, that is, e with high-precision, and gradually things are getting better we are getting better, but we know that minister of defense sergei shoigu asked to double the industry. uh, the production of precision-guided munitions was hoping it would bear fruit, it is already bearing fruit after all. use your artillery, enemy. now he pulled it away to the rear and works at the maximum distances for these types of weapons. and this very seriously affects the accuracy in artyomovsky continues, and the promotion of the wagner pmc to the city center to a. the administration, artyomovsk, remains there no
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more. half a kilometer this, of course, does not mean that as soon as we take the administration of the city right away, our enemy will still continue to resist, but now he has difficult logistics. now the spring thaw has begun here. i feel it on myself, because sometimes you can’t drive on the roads that you came yesterday already today on wheeled vehicles. i have an off-road vehicle prepared, but i have to make a big detour due to the fact that the crossings are washed out and the roads become limp. yes, the roads are now mostly driven. only caterpillar technique, but actually from the other side. e. same problem. here the weather is the same for everyone, and they are trying to withdraw from artyomovsk, the most combat-ready units, and in the city they remain, well, mostly mobilized, but they also put up very serious resistance. there is a feeling that the enemy can launch a counterattack on bahmud. to do this, three strike groups are being formed, one in the city of hours yar on the second
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in konstantinovka and the third in slavyansk, here, of course, a lot depends on interaction. uh, actually chevyka wagner and units of the ministry of defense, because the latter must cover the flanks from the south and from the north so that, uh, the enemy could not hit the rear of the u musician units, while these, and the flanks hold on and uh, the musicians continue confident, but forward movement. e to block the city completely, that is, physically. now the ukrainians have only one way left, along which they can supply their own or rather zones. uh, but this road is completely shot through by our artillery and a on wheeled vehicles. i repeat there get in. now it is impossible, but still the composition is personal. colleagues usually start up on wheeled vehicles. you said, these are very important things that i'm afraid of not completely, understand? uh, that, uh, the ukrainians are withdrawing
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their best formations from bakhmut and that there are mostly recruits but that you admit the possibility of a ukrainian counteroffensive in this area? that is, uh , you meant that these best ukrainian units are withdrawn not because they had no other choice. and as part of some kind of regrouping maneuver, so yes, it can be to assume, because after all, these units are badly battered, they need to restore combat readiness, but other formations are also being formed for a counterattack - these are three brigades in yare hours e two brigades in konstantinovka and from 3 to 4 brigades, and naturally in slavyansk, uh those parts that are now being withdrawn, they can dilute these offensive formations in order to hit the musician on the flank, but on the other
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hand it can also be a distracting maneuver. and uh, the main blow will be inflicted in some other place, you can assume. a zaporozhye where the grouping is already assembled approximately, and at 40,000 people naturally with equipment , and with high-precision weapons , including hymers, and i would pay attention to such dangerous areas as melitopol from melitopol, the enemy can go to berdyansk and completely cut off our grouping in the kherson region on the left bank of the land corridor. or maybe a political decision is made, it is not entirely expedient from a military point of view, but uh, kiev very often makes moves that u have more signs of pr than military expediency. this is a blow through the wave to mariupol, of course, in terms of information. and this blow will have more success than on the ground, but, nevertheless, such fears. among the military there is an interesting
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analysis on the one hand. i don't know if i sense an element of anxiety in your voice. and as i understand it, it's akhta's anxiety, and it's not yours personally. oh, you share it with the military with whom you speak, but on the other hand , at least i heard what you said and the feeling that the ukrainian counteroffensive to the possibility of such. counter-offensives the russian command of the troops is serious about whether this is true and whether any measures are being taken or any steps that would have given you, but if not certainty, you are at least informed optimism that the russian armed forces will ready to deal with this situation.
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yes, of course, i have something to compare, because last year i retreated first from near kiev, then from raisins, yes, in the kharkiv region, and i saw what was happening there, that is, there was on paper layered defense were. uh, fortified fortifications put on. they weren't here now. it's a completely different situation. uh, powerful fortified areas were built on the path of a possible enemy breakthrough - these are concrete cones and this, as well. anti-tank ditches are also earthen ramparts through which it will be very difficult to overcome, so here, of course, how this opportunity is taken with all seriousness and prepared for the worst scenario. i repeat. exhibited here now is a real echeloned defense is not on paper. uh, there are first and second and third echelon and, to the meeting, possible meetings of the enemy's offensive formations. alexander is really ready here for you. thanks for your time. i know how busy you are and we hope
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to see you again on our air soon. well, now i would like to move from the specific situation in e, ukraine and in particular in the region of bakhmat. i would like to move on to a more general question, but what is this war for? let 's hear what president putin said about this today yes, the soviet union collapsed, sorry not sorry, but, nevertheless, the basis for confrontation, uh, the former soviet union and the new russia with the western world. they disappeared, these foundations , there are no ideological foundations for confrontation, and it seemed that now everything would be fine and forever it turned out that it turned out not so, that on the geopolitical interests of our partners, as i said earlier. they turned out to be much more important for them than ideological contradictions with
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the former soviet union, and right there , you know it all, pressure began to shake russia itself, the fifth column began create inside in order to rock the domestic political situation. uh, we were sent by whole hordes of international terrorists who began to act in different regions from the outside, including, and above all, in the north caucasus. it all looked like terrorist attacks inside the country. well, it's all ours. it was like that in the eyes, which means that they began to work actively around the perimeter and, uh, and especially the role. of course, here, uh, it was given to u ukraine. here, uh, general, what amazes me, as a person who has lived in washington for a long time, is how russia is responding to this challenge. this is in general. incredible or an almost unbelievable situation when, faced with the collective west
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, more than 50 countries are significantly larger than russia 's gross, national product is significantly larger than russia's military budgets, and in general, but the collective west, but managed to show under american leadership. but if you want, more unity. and if you want, there is more desire even to make some economic sacrifices than most of us expected, and the president, frankly admitted. e that he himself did not expect such a success in relation to the unity of the collective west. how are you you explain that russia at the same time manages not only to defend its interests, including on the battlefield, but also to maintain the relative normality of life in russia itself, how do you explain this? because this is in general for me, for example, this is a very impressive
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achievement. you understand, dmitry is not everything, although it already seems like such a constant that no one disputes, which is the basis of success in the war of this economy. this is probably from the point of view of economists from the point of view of common sense. probably so, but uh, in in this case, it doesn't work 100%. that is, not everything is measured by the size of the budget. uh, on the battlefield. moreover, i am somehow there. well, now it won't take long. if we start looking at the american budget , the russian budget. how much does it spend on maintenance? how much is spent on development and comparing these figures, it will turn out , given that any sample of military equipment, from a rifle to a nuclear submarine. uh, on planes,
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anything artillery. and russian weapons are 5-6 times cheaper, so uh, when you start counting, it turns out, yes, there is an advantage, but it is not like that. uh, dramatic, second. e for the russian e for the russian armed forces of the russian army. a very rich history. e conduct of hostilities. yes. e. it has already become so you know , but almost the ultimate truth, that in the initial period russia makes mistakes, loses somewhere, but in the end wins. e. about the americans, despite the fact that they themselves consider that they are the most powerful army in the world, that the most equipped is the most advanced. but if you take uh, for the last 50-60 years i ask the question, where did the americans fight korea vietnam after
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vietnam where did the americans fight? i don’t take these wars there, yugoslavia, libya, when you know all this, first bomb everything to smithereens, and then declare yourself the winner. even iraq, uh, well, they're from bars from basra to baghdad. there, several hundred kilometers moved through the desert for a month. ah, resistance. in general, it was not very active, uh, and then they bought hussein's republican guard and entered baghdad without a single shot, so the russian army in this regard. she certainly has a wealth of experience. and the fact that we manage to, uh, maintain an acceptable standard of living, despite these crazy sanctions. this is a question, of course, for economists, but it seems to me that , despite all the claims there against the central
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bank against our ministry of finance, the government, nevertheless, the government, uh, under the leadership, mishustin is working enough. eh, quite effectively anyway, as a resident of russia, living in moscow, i don’t really feel it. uh, you know some, uh, restrictions and uh, not forced to change his usual way of life, so i think that americans see it too. yes, we tried at the very beginning of the operation to fight in the american way, that is, to inflict, e, disarming strikes on the air defense system at military airfields, e , ship basing points, all this was put out of action , and in principle, we really, the americans said that something you didn’t very not very actively it was necessary to bomb power plants. cities had to be bombed. it was necessary to bomb everything that comes to hand, but we also achieved success, if you remember in the month of march, the ukrainians. telecommunications and by april everything was ready, but then the uh war went on.
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as they say at attrition, as they call it now in the west, but in any case, i absolutely once again want to express optimism that in this war of attrition, despite uh, all these budgets, despite uh, all the power, uh american military-industrial complex uh, russia cannot be defeated on the battlefield. thank you, we had an interesting experience on channel one today, and a few people. uh, had a zuma conference with our american administrative colleagues questions and suddenly at the end of this conversation, and one of our american contacts. uh, said, what a nasty hard time these are. i really hope that they will end soon and then i do not invent. he said. buy something has already become difficult in grocery
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stores, a big drawback, transport has become worse, generally speaking, it is difficult for me, even for washington to know. this man is a good american republican patriot and does not differ in any special love for russia, that is, in other words. he didn't try to tell us e pleasant and er, they really tried to destroy the russian banking system. and now there are problems with american banks, as russia did. i understand that the worst may be yet to come, and at least washington hopes so, but how has russia managed to really maintain this economic normality so far and allow sanctions pressure despite increased military spending. well, in general, it will allow the country to live a completely fulfilling life. well , you know, that's a question that's probably on
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which can be answered forever, so here. well, in a nutshell. and i have repeatedly said that the economy is a phenomenon that has existed for so long. how many people exist. here there is a person, there is an economy, there is no person, there is no economy, therefore, in the final analysis, the economy cannot be killed. it still finds ways and forms of existence of restoration and starts working, so this is a general principle. i don't want to go any deeper. this is the first second. i remember somewhere in the middle of the 2000s, when under the auspices of the then on the initiative of even the then president of france, mr. sarkozy had an initiative to try to write a report by a major economist on how much sense such an indicator makes, how do you gdp, and then quite all reputable economists wrote a whole large report
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that, in general, the gdp indicator is a little outdated. here, i'm here now uh, listening to a colleague wanted to say that you understand how we sometimes. eh, we are so in a paradigm. with this now dollar economy counting it's all in this in this system that we actually let in that the proportions are different and the russian economy from formal, e , indicators, it may, of course, not be as large as the american one, but from the point of view of local demand for local infrastructure of production demand of the population of the financial system. she is quite large. it provides existence. well, consider there 1/6 of the uh, sveta uh, and, therefore, uh , approach it primitively and say that tomorrow we will turn off the faucet there in swift or so we won’t let you give it there for installation. this is the ceiling for oil. they are deprived. e reasons due to the fact that the economy is easy. e, although with effort. yes, if
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i may say so, here it is still betraying, therefore, the russian financial sector has found support. and on russian soil today, the president spoke about this, and he, in principle, said that we have ensured our economic sovereignty as never before, and we finally began to think about this economic sovereignty and we saw that it is not so small, therefore , of course, any economy. e not e excluded, so to say that it is not free from risks, any economy has its own disproportions and problems , any economy can be brought into a certain state of instability due to some external factors, but in general .
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that level of russia's integration into the world economy, while maintaining its own, it actually played its own now, we are not as international as the american economy, and this is the strength of the americans with their dollar, like this, but this is also their weakness, which makes itself felt, when a major crisis happens, or happens after all. as a matter of fact, a problem. those same banks again. uh, that's a colossal american debt. this is their money. they. as a matter of fact, uh, everything, there is a reverse. e, reverse e to the side, so e yes, this is success is success that did not happen by the will, so to speak, of a magic wand. this is a success associated with the efforts of the regulators of the government of the business itself, but on the other hand, it is quite justified, that is , the structure that has been created in russia in recent years. i myself worked at the institute of world economy many years ago, and i i remember very well the meeting of the editorial board of the publishing council, where the chairman was then
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the deputy director of the institute, yevgeny maksimovich primakov, and, uh, the position of the scientist of the institute, they said, then they were very popular things in the soviet union about the stability of the american financial system and what advantage the world economy gives , built on the dollar. what advantage does it give to america , i must confess that at that time it did not occur to anyone present to me, all the more , that the united states, uh, would decide to modify this economic financial system that has worked so well for decades for america and will decide to transform. uh, the dollar in the sanctions fight is dangerous for america from your point of view . i think this is the biggest mistake america has made lately here. uh, as soon as they uh imposed sanctions on
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the russian federal, so to speak, actually uh central bank reserves, and they violated the unshakable principle. and to say the fundamental point of the whole e, the global global financial system. there is sovereignty, this is how the world works, and in fact, he, uh, stability rests on this. e foreign exchange reserves of exporting countries. this keeps the efficiency, the stability of the dollar. these are interconnected intersecting problems, as soon as they brought the whole essence into it and brought it into it. this is them in fact. uh, in fact, it was undermined and, uh, as it is now to say weaponization, yes. or weaponizing the dollar is the biggest mistake americans make, which can cost them very, very long-term problems. you on-, uh napoleon is credited with the well-known saying that bayonets are excellent
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tools. only it is uncomfortable to sit on them quite right to turn to turn. uh, a financial instrument. vtyk. this is the ultimate, uh, unique invention that can be effective, but it seems to me only for a short time and can easily boomerang when u the chairman of the sip comes to moscow next week, he will arrive, i think, with a very big diplomatic victory , in fact , unique victories and an agreement on normalization or at least the normalization work of international and saudi arabia and i want to remind these countries have been terrible mortal enemies for decades and of course this is an impressive achievement for the middle east but i don't know china had
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the opportunity before. i don't even know, you are china's ambition to act in such an international role , almost global, if you want an arbiter, yes, an architect, yes, how did this happen? and what does this mean, and you are right, traditionally china has never acted as a global mediator always an architect. well, it was famous. uh, xiaoping's stratogen to hide opportunities to stay in the shadows 24 gold rubles in today the situation has changed that's just in development. ah, it's important these colleagues in china have the concept of total national power. there, of course, there is an economic bloc, a social one , a military one, and, as it were, morally, uh, psychologists. sustainability, that is, in fact, today china has this total national power. it can afford to start an active and very effective regional politics. now that's uh, a deal or
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reconciliation between iran and saudi paradise - it's an absolutely brilliant combination. moreover, it was not made and prepared today. not yesterday. for 3 years it was made by chinese diplomats. i remind you that in the twenty-first year a cdnin. well, he actually made a breakthrough by signing with iran such a strategic package of documents for 25 years for 400 billion dollars, 17 infrastructure projects, and so on, and in december 22, a visit from a dolphin took place. saudi arabia also has a very powerful visit. there is also a very large package, there are more than 40 billion and so on, that is, by today, this deal was powerful, but, as it were, on bilateral tracks, and china saudi arabia china iran what kind of investment economic trade base, but this is not enough, that is, as if china is brilliantly perfect, as if attracted. e, created the conditions. that's for this relatively speaking triangle, since it is mutually beneficial and softly from the economic.

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