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i will always answer. good afternoon, a disabled child lives with his father, and his disability pension, for some reason, under the pillow of his mother, father and mother have been living separately for a long time. it seems to me that it is not so easy to have a triangle here.
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alexander is sure that he saved a seriously ill son from his mother, who is now only interested in strong drinks and promiscuity. lena if he hadn’t taken less, he simply wouldn’t have lived for 18 years. a few and grandma are engaged in chained mice and demand that elena return the allowance that is paid for a sick child is not needed. she just sucks money from him to deprive him of parental rights today in our studio.
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we will find out whether elena deliberately made the son of disabled people, and sasha stole him for the sake of revenge and the former spouses kept some secrets all this time today in our studio marina karpenko from the volgograd region marina nikolaevna hello, tell me what happened to you in the nineteenth year elena lying. we're in bed. our ex went with the child to the hospital, if they recognized the accident as much as we at that time your grandson was 2 years old, at that time she lived with your son, they lived together. how long did they live together? they lived for 2 years. but the point is to deprive her of parental rights, she likes to drink there, she began to receive a pension. she began to drink often and drink mishina and her daughter on a disability pension. she got everything. she began to drink her daughter. what kind of pension is obtained, and for
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the loss of a breadwinner, that is, she gets two children's pensions, and she drinks on these pensions. yes, yes, but your son worked, our son works. and now he works in the same booze. well, there were all sorts of scandals with clocks. for what, because he comes home from work, and she is drunk , he picks her up, she is in the kitchen smoking a pie. yes, yes, and the children are at home, and the children are playing in another room in their own. if sasha had not stopped by, of course, they would have persuaded him. they did not like that sasha began to raise his hands to swear. she left him, took the children , took everything, then in the month of december. sasha comes to her. drunk, she runs away from him
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, afraid that sasha will kill her. takes wrapped a blanket and leaves her, and i mix his phone is stopped by ppsniki. they say sasha please. give her the phone. she is for a child, did not rush. she rushed to the phone, that the phone was now accidentally highlighting her phone along with the child. yes? and now she says that we stole, we hide, well, we took his child or phone or child, please tell me, was there a court to determine the place of residence of the child was the last court, here. the first when the twenty-first year decided in favor of sasha is understandable. residence of the child with your son, the order of communication is determined with her or not? she gave it. no, we don't mind. we say, it turns out that we
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need to go to the hospital. we call her, lena, please. take him to the hospital. she doesn't have a car, she doesn't have time. this is what she tells us, but sorry for such a child in need of rehabilitation. you have to do them all the time. this is every day, daily work. if you want, put him on his feet, we put him up, yes, we put him up and i'm talking about it. it's the same daily there workout massages exercises. it's the same every day. while she lived with him, she did all this. no we took his vegetables. he couldn't help but walk. do not eat, do not crawl, do not go to the potty child. it was three almost 3 years. and now how much and now, on the nineteenth of january , it was five years old. look back, he already walks, he walks on his feet, he rides a bicycle with us. and let's see, he's a rider. we have already seen once, of course, yes, let's say, mom, here we are christmas tree what
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quietly do not rush. do not rush, ask exactly. go rovno yes, like this. play, pet pet your friend well done what a often in we stay in the hospital with them 3-4 times a year. and who is with him? please tell me, i am because after the trial, after the place of residence was determined , elements were assigned to her. why did we want
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to redesign? they said that my mother was officially the guardian after the court decision, because she had filed an appeal. we will probably see them. i'll show you on the screen, well, or at least, as it confirms. what are her living conditions like? where where does she want to take the child, you know that sasha she lived with one man. its with it with andrey yurchenko about
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andrey yurchenko washed down the volume and kicked her out in a week. she finds another nomadic vladimir and now she lives with this vladimir, but i don’t know in which apartment they even asked to visit with her. let's see where she wants to take her son. here we bought it together. well, that is, it contains our entire family in this room. we plan to have a nursery, that is, misha is here, karina is our bedroom here. here we word things. alexander
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always complains that i spend the child's money, as it were, i don't spend it, all the money absolutely for the two years that i get. they are here with the child. ahead of the operation in the child's rehabilitation. so, all this money is not ours in any case. here we are constantly i read to him. here, and he guessed, but you also see, these are also children. mothers quickly pick up the child. this is my meaning of life. i promised to show you the money. there they are, and that nothing is simple until the final condition for the return of this money
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will be that the child will live with her or what? here. let's ask elena hello, i won't give you my son. he is with you is held hostage. here we show an hour only to this. we want to figure it out, okay? he asked for a child before that, he just stole it from me , i constantly wrote to the police. on december 10, he fraudulently assumed that he wanted to see him. i gave him permission. so he
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took it and after that he did not return it to me. that is, i, too, again turned to the guardianship authorities at the pdn service to pick up the child. well, as he, too, the father did not give me the child, tell me, do you see the child now in general, how often, well, two or three times a month, when he receives a pension, get the child in the hospital. and you don't even go there. i am coming. i'm coming. i bring food now, when summer came to me, when i already stepped on your throat and said lena, he is coming to your cub, and i talked to him through the window. well, when yes he was lying. i was sitting with him through the window, i was talking to him once, when the ladies brought the medicines, excuse me, that is, you did not agree with
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the court's decision and filed an appeal. no , look, we have passed. uh, the first court, when we passed the first instance, uh, the court ruled that he did not transfer the child, that is, the court i won the final court decision. which grandmother’s decision of the second court came into force and appealed the alimony you were assigned by this court decision or by the same court, so you don’t pay them, as far as it is no, i just found out about them. i love you. team never
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like you? come to the child with a request? come in at 6:00. come anyway, i 'll meet you. i came to bed also. when you go, mom got ready,
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because because i want to clarify on the video. you are sober there. no look. this first video. it was still turns out we didn't have a trial, we just, like, it was about 10 o'clock. 2:00 am. well, let it be 2 o'clock in the morning, but on this stone in the video. he filmed know how he did.
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it turns out he called me, well, in such a state, as if he would write out and say, tomorrow i have no one to leave the child not for work, he says, come take him, we are going and going with karina because, well, he is like his eldest. daughter. yes, here. well, he said in such a voice that well, well, well, how i would start to worry. and even more so with whom he leaves the child when he goes to work. so we came for the baby. it turns out that he also said that i should take it to him, but i, of course, am not a stupid person, because i think that, well, there were just a lot of such fake situations. why did you break up because you thought a hand on me on a child. and because of what well, tell me why? yes well, who's behind the sheds? did you buy it? wait. but it was the mother who sang, why your son is on the e child, but, because the child. what did he beat for? what karina karina yes, what did you need? but it was necessary to be honest here. you are covering for a
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domestic tyrant, a tyrant. as you said , what do you want to do with her, but do not touch the child. you already sit down for this. why do you need to sit for someone else's child, your words are yours when i said, yes he did, if i said so, why am i now working with a child, what did he do to karina yours, how did he kill her, well, once he gave. uh, with a ladle to her temple for not sweeping in the corridor. she didn't budge. e lozina. he beat her right up well for that chick e is in the wrong barn, well chick. she drove her into the wrong shed, he also beat her, but there, as it were, i interceded. well, we have all such cases when he was a child, that is, it turns out there was a battered apple, but he broke it regularly, yes, and we take it. ennou is also pregnant. yes, and the pregnant drunk, campaign run. it's possible? what's there? well, you know, you say like this, no. no. well,
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i'm not saying i don't drink at all. now about karina, she lives with you now, no. and why well, because she, too, well, it's hard for her this situation, it stretches from misha. we came to misha with karina. well, as it were . we even asked for the child to be given, and in this case we decided that for the time being , lawsuits are going on, the child is about the grandmother , your child has been there for a long time. uh, well, she came to us in the summer, and so the second year. and how often do you have that? well we have for two years, well we have for two years. how many court cases did you have in general every month we just have us now in addition to the court session. well, almost yes. this makes it so difficult for your daughter to live with mother, because you are not in court all the time. i thought you were not there 24/7,365 days a year. she just painfully endures this situation, wears painfully, why are you forcing her not? what that child that misha is not
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with us? wait. that is, she lives with her grandmother, she still knows that misha is not well, she didn’t see you with me, it’s not a shame. she just does not see this situation as a very thick delirium. if a child, as you say, is very much going through separation from his brother, then who can console him better than his own mother. well, or is it because you are now with another man live? no, they fused their daughter no, so as not to interfere with their personal life, no, they have a very good way. no, you fused the child in the truest sense of the word. so wait, karina's father where to ask how that is all this. mother vse karina she has a mother who builds a relationship with another man. you understand that now, if you win
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the trial, i will be extremely surprised that i am not bringing up karina well. she has a grandmother. you don't raise her. yes, listen, you are an amazing woman. you told us before the program before the interview that the child was born with cerebral palsy because that your husband beat you. this is your quote , you understand, you sincerely think so, of course, so you lived with him, right? well, i tried to leave him when i was still pregnant, i didn’t have the opportunity to either leave or not. he told me later, lena come back. it won't happen again. more i raise my hand. why did he tell you this and why did he beat you pregnant, damn it, did you bring him to disability, or did he have an acquired disease. they are nature, you know? well, then, maybe, well, the doctor says, but who did i beat, who already i killed me three karina did not touch. you
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killed me karina. you beat. bill fought for the cause. yes , i now, of course, touched, i just took care of the dogs when i no longer lived with you. you put me in the cellar. for what, but why do you remember me, you can sit next to your mother . you planted me so that you don’t drink. we no longer lived with him at the moment, what is an acquired disease and why is she to blame for this? well , how did the doctors explain to me what it was or the child was dropped? or when the legs were sleeping they pressed something. well, here it is. yeah you don't even know when we went to the neurologist at 8 months. i turned to a neurologist, because the child did not sit well. classic dispensary please tell me why you keep misha's pension money under his pillow, because, well,
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the rehabilitation operation is ahead, that is, well, no matter how much he needs rehabilitation now. we eat not drink, he does not need anything. now we spend from personal funds. that is, this money. i'm postponing. and the fact that the child needs, well , we all need it, as it were, uh, i give it to you, she gives you money. no. well, money, of course i i give very little, food with money. damn, what nonsense, they asked in the fall, lena didn’t even have to ask for money or buy, please, a jacket for him, well, you bought it. so what did i tell you? yes, i'm going to dress here, right? you are my child. i want to personally take the child and misha and dress him. wait if you know that your child needs a jacket, even if
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they are so bad, cuts will not give you one. well , probably, a loving mother will put the child in the first place, but they are so bad, i buy him things and jackets and pants. i am everything i buy the child had a jacket, when did you do it in front of peter when did you buy it? i things, well, as you said, sasha, the courts will pass for me. then i will buy what i need so well, yes, then sasha calls in the evening and says mom and she said that the medicine should be divided in half. for what? what are you? you deceive, of course, deceive, but we have no paid operations for children with cerebral palsy. she refused no look. i
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'm not saying that well, then rehabilitation. so i don’t spend this money, then here, of course, rehab these puddles, but once again you said he was going to have a rehab operation. we tell you that we have glory to you, lord, at least such things are free and we ask the question again. why do you keep this money at home if he lives with his father. well, lawsuits are underway, how could i calmly take this money, the child needs 400 rubles. at 400.000. that is, you stole, in fact, the money of your child does not matter lie. they under your pillow all this money or others does not concern me in any way. well, in fact, you decided that you are alone on earth and you can live like i want a child there a child here,
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i wanted this back again. you know what i 'll tell you. no, it won't work, but it seems to me that your arguments are different. it seems to me that a man has appeared in your life who has certain influences on you. let's take a look at your lastore. lena i have a super woman who will always give a patron. such a shot struck me to meet with lena in the very heart. alexander was. well, in principle , he was about nothing in life , nothing in bed about anything. vova is much cooler vova is super man. when we take away, love karina to love a niche and i think we will start our own. he he will be a much better dad
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than alexander , of course . wait, you lived with him. he is with us, that he forced the batteries to be fastened in handcuffs . and with me, you first slept with him for 3 years. you gave birth to a child from him, and now he is bad in bed. this is bad. it's such a spanish shame. i'm testing for you now. tell me, please, how does your current cohabitant feel about the fact that you want misha to be taken away, after all, a child, not a simple one, requires care. to me, he treats misha very well, he will fully support misha. are you sure you are confident ? let's invite vladimir, elena's current roommate, to the studio. hello now
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, together with your wife, i understand who is the head of the family. this is understandable, you are completely fighting for misha to be with you. and you imagine the daily hell that will follow this decision of yours. yes no, you can't imagine, no, let's see how misha lives now and how he is looked after. ay, everything hurts and so we try times, two or three professional massage. he, of course, will cost more than she is my simple five thousand, probably exactly worth a year. we have to lie with him five or six times of rehabilitation
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, and each time we have to pay 25 thousand, but my mother does not help in any way. we are somehow developing motor skills for my son with my sun. so, here we are painting with the left hand . here you go we do plasticine with both handles. come on, this is how we take dad. this is how we make fingers. that's it. as a doctor in st. petersburg prescribed for us, that day and a half began there? now i will fix and as you have a leg , i will relax you. natasha, tell me, please, that's where grandma and dad came up with the idea that this is enough care or is it enough, not enough. i can tell you more, this
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is called classic diplegia, dear, mom, yes, yes, and uh, with this form of cerebral palsy , these are promising children who walk, live enough problems only with legs. yes normal suffering doesn't really work. that is, it can be evened out. yes, you can, of course, yes, this is generally a promising form of cerebral palsy, you can make it so that it is even imperceptible later. yes, maybe there is a correction, of course, and it will be necessary to resort to surgical intervention. and maybe even you can do without it the whole massage for these children. through pain volodya that's uh, every day every day without a pass. and a few more times a year to lie down. well, yes, rehab, and that's what you want for him. here, finally, i heard that what i heard for her. i'm ready, but do
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or what? no, why? i knew what i was getting into, how old are you? i'm 37, of course it's good when a man loves a woman, but the responsibility for her children. it's forever. tomorrow you can run away, but you will not be able to absolve yourself of responsibility for the child that you have taken in your family. all this forever. are you ready for this, tell me. well, to this of course not. i think this will not actually be a man, and who are not the fathers of children will never replace the place of the father of the child, not in terms of, in general, in principle positions not in terms of responsibility, a woman lover will never take on the responsibility that a father can take on. i disagree with you now. my father took my mother, my mother, he is my older sister. she is not related to them. her father loved and loves her
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more than our brother. here is the answer for you. we just ask you to weigh all the circumstances and make a decision on the shore, because then oh, you know, i did not expect it to be so difficult. oh sorry. oh come on, here it is. it just happens 95% out of 100 99 moreover, yulia's family, mom dad breaks up. yes , when a sick child and dad and mom and family break up. this is very hard. we talked to people who witnessed the relationship between lena and sasha no. and by the way, between you and lena, yes, too, so let's listen to such a short survey from the first channel. well, she likes to drink once. i just went right in. in short , she lies drunk there, she is covered in blood. that is, well, well, karina, here she is. yes, here she is. that's clean. there she is, drunk. she is there,
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give money, in short, she shows her. there, go and so, in short, she went herself, took what she needed, went from here, she got a job there. well, a girlfriend comes, sits, drinks there , we don’t get out, he was loaded, it costs 1 2 3 4 5 from here, then the bottles are also standing behind themselves. don't get out. once i went to ask something on business, it was a mess. i was still surprised. so the guys did not go so do not wash. was so. well, probably this smell was there, then she will ruin mishka. it's just sasha, he will raise her up. i believe that he will cure her, but she i don't believe she's curing him. even your relatives are here, and they say such things about her. well, i won't be surprised that they say such things, because they are still i know these relatives. i have lived all my life. he and i
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grew up at the age of 19. for some reason, i was left alone here.
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but it would be cool to wake up in the morning and win 100 million. want far dreaming national lottery sunday on pervoi i want hope grinenko to call alexander's neighbor here. let's listen. maybe she has some information we need. let's start with when you left misha with me with my mother. i never left. well, as
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never something interesting. it’s just that when i showed me that somehow i myself left them to you, well, what are you talking about, how is she a jamb, you hit a bruise on your arm, do you hear yourself, in general, what are you talking about? and she said she was pregnant. tell me what you do sit down and first to tell about how she beats on the jambs, and then why, firstly , well, to show that sasha beats her, if she hit the jamb, she herself had a bruise, and she showed him that it was hers hit. yes, it's all bullshit. this is just nonsense. and how do you know this? well, she showed it to me herself. she herself told.
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ay-ay-ay-ay-ay came to her. i go home from work anyway to sit and bottles. she can give the child. well, on the one hand, it is possible, but to treat it, she can’t do it. why are you so sure? well , because during this time she would still be would be here, as i myself mayda. like a mother. anyway, you will go to the hospital and you will find out something, even if they find it in another hospital, i always find out for the child, i am constantly in touch with the student. we also went together. he forbade me, in general, for me to go into the office. that is, he has me, he has nowhere to me, he limits me everywhere. that is, i can not help but recognize the child. nothing absolutely you are deprived of parents. there is no child. i'm the last time to receive all the same flat information that receives, what kind of strangers three weeks ago. i turned to the central regional hospital, i wanted to find out about the child, just like misha started, well
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, something hurt. well, it hurt. here he is, he didn't really tell me exactly what was going on. well, for what reason is he ill, that i turned to him in general, uh, in the polikli to ask, yes, misha , yes. and i don’t have the right to give you information only through a lawyer in writing. sasha , we'll see. on the screen, because in preparation for the program we are interviewing a large number of people, and then you will comment to us, which we will see well, so that she was a bad mother lena. well, i believe that the child should be with the mother, no matter how her parental rights interfere. and he sees that from the basement, as if he has three sons, and we are fighting for exactly one, he has an older child. well, it is not recorded on it. here, after a niche, an already born child is not recorded on him, he went
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completely with a girl. ooh here she was born. and now she is the current daughter-in-law for the hopes of trying on how her younger brother lives now. well, how is life? i wonder why there is no such activity and such a song we have such an opinion, as it were, that this decides everything without who is my dear sister? yes, this is your daughter. no my daughter. yes, i say, your turned out to be a conflict. why not? ska- first, answer the question. how many children do you have with me alone? and what he is carrying there now, the van is carrying farther and farther. met a girl. well, whether your children communicated with the rest or not, it would have been in my passport to be recorded. yes, agree that she is
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pregnant. maybe you refused to start recording. i'm in samara. do you have a child? and yours say, well, the boar said, sasha, i don’t want to enter you and asked how many children you have entered in your passport. children one okay let's go. i'm enlisting your support right now. you will be ready to take a dna test. if those women who believe that they gave birth to you agree to the same is ready. okay, everything means, the second series is provided to us. we heard we are finishing no more. denis let's start the discussion with you with difficulty elena restrain impartiality towards you, but, unfortunately, many who are now in the studio and many viewers i want to say that i did not see any reason to deprive you of parental rights, at least at
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the present time, however, i believe that the court decision on determining the place of residence of the child with the father is fair and legal. you can dispute. as much as you like. i think that the court of appeal will not take your side, taking into account everything that we have heard today. and you know, here i want to sum up a little like this, uh, the whole program. we dismantle took away did not take away. i wanted, but they didn't let me. that is, no one here thought about what awaits this baby. you have a little time. he needs to fix his legs. and to develop this kid, not to think. oh love went there went here. i don't know, it's worth nothing compared to life. this child's life will be on your conscience. maybe, after all, really mom. pay attention to the conditions of keeping the son with the father to help while he lives with him and already there, in a judicial order, there is somehow to defend his rights, but so far there is no one to take anywhere
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you only need to unite, efforts, do not touch the child, unfortunately, i do not see the potential for you to take the child away. and you on the first on a healthy child have already shown that, in principle, and about care. you are not particularly ready to devote time, you need time there from morning to night around the clock, so now instead of wasting time here, really offer better help. uh, pay back all the debts to the child. and i think that you will find a common language with dad and child and you will be able, as adults , to agree on joining efforts, so as not to you really have very little time to waste. i have one word for alexander is this. this idea of ​​wisdom is such that children are needed in order for someone to serve
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a glass of water in the end, the more children, the more likely it is that this glass of water will bring to a drying throat, of course, the same thing about hands, the more hands, the more help to the child, and in these hands use it only to fight with yourself it's a pity. i want to take my youngest granddaughter dashenka because it is very dangerous to be with her mother. and how did it happen? what then began to live separately from you. it's just that her mother climbed in, and you don't want to go to live with your mother no after work. maybe you understand that you and him have decided that he is bad, i can show.

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