naturally, to do something new for us is the average theater of stanislavsky nemirovich-danchenko. and what are those young guys for whom we made this competition - these are young guys these are young singers who have already sung a little, who need help in order to be listened to, who need help to go further , who could to continue after this competition to continue your career and career growth in a slightly different direction, it is important to have a path , uh, it is important to have a path where there are people who can help you. and then when you stand on the stage when you serve the music. and when you can say something to the audience, uh, and make that viewer come to you, but because they know what they want and why did they come? this is precisely education, and the competition is part of the education of young

opera singers. we had a wonderful program, which is woven. uh, it was for three rounds. er, definitely. uh, so the classical aria is sure to be uh . it is important that this is not just a competition of vocalists, but this is a competition of vocalists and accompanists, but every singer and every vocalist , every singer who wants to grow, next to him there must be an accompanist coach, uh, with whom they would do in tandem. that's what we are doing now, and the promotion of classical art. ah , love, absolute love for music and service

to music is a certain education of people for whom this is an important springboard in life, like, for example, i have the tenth tchaikovsky competition anniversary when i was in the history of the tchaikovsky competition the first grand prix, and to this day i carry it. eh, this is a title with a straight back, and i am very proud of it and cherish it. here i am. here, as a unit of the eye. that's how i really want this contest to sound further, so that there are a lot of talented young people, there are really a lot of them, and so that they don't come to be listened to. hmm, we had wonderful cash prizes. we have wonderful. prizes, uh, and not only monetary ones, but also opera ones, and they have the opportunity to perform at the mariinsky theater valeria wrote georgiev, we supported

vladimir yuryevich urin, supported both the bolshoi theater and our theater of stanislavsky nemirovich-danchenko and hmm alexey alekseevich shalashov. eh, the tchaikovsky hall is also an absolutely phenomenal hall for me. that's where they once announced that i was a grand prix of the tchaikovsky competition and the grand hall of the conservatory. this is absolutely alma matter for us and how important it is that we have what we can, for example, raise the moscow conservatory as the most important strong hmm educational institution where we really. eh, everyone got tremendous professional knowledge and i am very happy. i am very grateful to the presidential pound of cultural initiatives represented by you roman vladimir thank you very much for believing. and for us it is very important. and this was the first , it was the first and supported by the president. fair

romanov i'm elena kiper and we continue the conversation with hiblai germala, it was the first competition. and then how will fate. that is, they are already starting to work in these theaters, but to serve. how do you say music or is it u they have such a level, they ascend to a new level. and further. they still need to do a lot of work on themselves in order to gain a foothold in our laureate, they all need to work very hard in order to be names. and we already have the next stage in life, of course, after the competitions we have, uh, a wonderful concert. e in the tchaikovsky hall and beyond. we are going to the mariinsky theatre. valery mikhailovich will be at the console and for us. it is very touching for us. this is very important, and the stanislavsky theater and the bolshoi theater of the mariinsky all with debuts in opera performances, of course, and in they are all races.

prices are according to our large opera house, uh, but for us the big opera house is the bolshoi theater in moscow, it is the mariinsky theater, the helikon theater of stanislavsky nemirovich-danchenko, and they are tremblingly preparing for this directly for them. it's very important to serve as the lead in the first theaters in russia and it's a great career hmm. the most important thing is that this is the biggest chance in life, many of them may have, but they are not interested in what they are, after all, they are not only artists, young people are people who grew up in completely different conditions with other technical capabilities, even with a different worldview. maybe they have something special that you didn't have when you started. they are all talented, and i wanted to tell you that

we had so many applications. we had 800 applications. this is colossal for our time and for the first competition. er, that's a whopping 800 people and from all over the world and we're absolutely proud of that. they are all very talented, but they really need to do a lot in order to be in the profession. stay in the profession. after all, many, you know, can be laureates of the most important competitions, but then not have any kind of career, and here the main thing is that they have a subsequent life, so that they would be interested in staying in the profession in order to serve in music, and they are all very young to them. there is a lot to do, and it is important that they understand that they can do a lot in opera music on the opera stage in the chambers. we were looking for talented guys who, in their entirety and in

the aggregate, can be very interesting for the audience who will come to listen to the laureates our competition. yes, and it is concerts and performances. it was very important for me and for me all my team that a hmm they were diverse and that they were able to give what is interesting to those people who will come to the halls now. this is important, is it necessary to popularize the genre? well, for example, somehow synthesize a crossover or in some other way more, well, to attract a more mass audience or not? what do you think, if the discussion, so to speak, between modern operas and in general, well, 800 this is for the opera indeed, this is a lot, but if let's talk about pop culture. there, of course, it's completely different and to scale this

kind of art is like uplifting the audience. and how do you say, again forming a revolution, in general, well, why do marketing tools exist? i just understand that, for example, there, in hansatzimers, they are built into opera akalises or there are some other syntheses , there is some other mix in which you can , famous hopper. yes, but pieces of arias. here's how you feel about it, and i about it i feel great, because i am sure that as singers they should be educated for different music and in order to be important in the profession later in the profession and be able to do something very stylishly and expensively in bomb styles in another genre - this also need to know. for example, jazz and classics, where there is

a synthesis, for example, a little, but a little bit of classics in jazz. for example, i hope that our competition winners will continue to feel this need, but i have had this need for a long time, i have a lot of jazz music and jazz program. e, in which i connected. uh, these are the fabric of classical music in jazz, but the most important thing is that it be strong. uh, if it listens beautifully, if hmm if there are people, but full halls, and people who come, uh, to listen to this program, then it works. it means it 's important, it means it's interesting, and hmm, in order to become interesting to others, you need to be interested. very important. there are also a lot of aspects, it is important that you sound in this music, it is important that it is stylish more i repeat with you. it's interesting what

you say about style. indeed, of course, it is important that it be in style; it is important that it sound expensive and stylish, so that there is no bad taste. this aspect has always been very important for me in general, in principle, taste and style in everything should be everything related to music. it should be. that's so delicious. i 'd say yes, hmm there's a singer coming out. she is a singer. she must be luxuriously dressed. uh, they must have beautiful hair there is art. people come especially for to convey and see and listen to enjoy everything, yes aesthetic aesthetic, but operatic art. i am sure that this is an absolutely aesthetic pleasure. may i bring you back to the world trying to cancel russian culture, but without success, as we can see, but

nonetheless. in general, he tries and will try, apparently, that's what it gives us more chances. uh, or uh, or limitations of opportunity, or some kind of internal uh, internal boundaries of some sort? i will now say a very important thing. i think this is the answer. i probably eh. i'll end my answer here. so let's say. yes, from time immemorial, russian singers closed, opened and closed opera houses, festivals , and we have the best singers, and this has shown below . practice has shown this. all our lives, but hmm in the opera world. and of course, we are a little closed now. but believe me, for us it is mainly the ministry of music. that's when it is, when you can say that

this is the main thing in the world of art in the world of culture. i'm sure that quietly those who want to cancel russian culture, closing in the evening at home so that no one can hear include integrated each other into world culture, what is it completely impossible to undo? well, how can you cancel tchaikovsky or rachmaninov and shchedrin how can you cancel that russian music that from time immemorial has made people better, made the world a better place, and this is impossible. and so i believe in the best and most importantly, that we have it and we have it. history is very important. where do you find support for yourself? well, what you give her. this is absolutely what we know. but when you need support - this is my family. e

this is my job. this is my home, of course my home is you and it seems to me that this is the case for all for all performers for all musicians, because after you come home. when the whole house embraces from you - this is just what is important, what is needed in order to let go of everything that was before, and you tour a lot. of course, and accordingly, when you return home, that is, your family, there is something of a lack of communication with you, probably, well, we are in touch all the time, of course, but, of course, we are always very i miss home very much, because i have always been such a very family clan girl with us, and i was brought up with such a mouth, uh, such people in this kind, uh, with my mother from my father's side. our family is very strong, so, of course, i miss them very much. and it is absolute

happiness when i come. here's a little home. yes, it didn't stop you. it's simple, because you know, the ministry of music. here you already have to somehow measure it, how to balance it all, when there is a family where you want. this is also a difficulty for many, by the way, speaking and restrictions step further, because something slows down and slows down, especially women's - this is realization. she seemed to always be at the hearth of the house. i am this very e for a modern woman who is in the creative industries, who are in creativity, because it is connected with the position of great energy in her profession. again, service. this must be measured. that's how it balances you out. the main thing is that the singer is a woman and a woman is music. she should be happy. that's when a woman with happy eyes, when she has

a flat back when it sounds great. the voice, it's beautiful, it glows from the inside, so it's all right, because we we touch the great, that's what we do happy person. this is what you need to be a man now motivation? how many things do you need to do in order to be close to be with such a woman? i don't know, it just sounds too much to wear on your hands. i think here in families, where , and a female musician, a female singer, they must understand that this is not an ordinary person, that holi needs to be televised, that, what a lot . there is a contingent of families that understand what it is? well, regardless, even cherish. eh,

does it mean they don't save it? everything is very well protected. after all, this is a person, first of all , an artist, and regardless of this, he may be on the day of the performance. well, be a little bit. hmm , not in the mood. i don't know, well maybe just. well, just, maybe, somehow not according to myself there one from everyone. well, unless it happens differently, it happens, of course, what to do? what is it to understand people? we have to be, maybe there the pressure can rise, the weather affects us. we flew in the plane a little dry, but it's all so much it's on a physical level, but it's very difficult to get together sometimes, no matter how bad you feel. there's a little voice there. or are you a bit cold? god forbid e, lord forgive me, but that's why we are all people, this is a normal situation. we must take care of each other. and warmer. by the way, i noticed then the scene and the metaphysical level. it seems to me that this is some kind of contact of a different

order. when you go on stage, you are absolutely not cold. you are absolutely tuned in to what you brought to the stage now and , of course, some other facets of a person of a creative stage person are opening up and uh, there, of course, well, another human gradation works, it seems to me, yes. i listened to one podcast, smart, just from the series. here's what we mentioned at the beginning. uh, so how, uh, to start listening. eh, opera advice was like this. so it was very simple come, firstly, in general, sit in a chair. uh-huh you can close your eyes. but sit back and not look at the stage, because, well, from the point of view of the podcast writer , nothing much will happen on stage. there will be something sketchy there. in general, some people happen, but nevertheless you have to immerse yourself. e in voice. uh, in this

, in everything, how right, the author of the podcast is not orthodox, the author of the podcasts is because. and if you come, if people come to the opera house, you should definitely see what we have in the price of closing your eyes, you can sit in a comfortable chair at home with excellent records, but the audience comes in order to watch in order to take for themselves what is important to him now and, of course, the totality. uh, opera and voice scenography orchestra, sound of the orchestra singers conductor hmm stage director's decisions. this is all interesting, but do you listen to pop music? well , of course, i listen to different kinds of music. i was brought up on very good different music. i

really love ours, are you the children of someone from pop music who is closest in terms of this level high art to you. yes, you really want names, and why will it be, if someone's name is called now, uh, what will happen to this person? he will grow in popularity. he can write out a certificate for himself without content, let his popularity grow. i feel like if i have names right now, of course, but i feel like something would be unfair to others, and pop stars, uh, who are loved and everyone has their own opinion. no no. of course i won't. i really love. i hmm, if in such a narrow circle, i can even sing such songs with pleasure. uh, well, we don't go to karaoke. but if suddenly it happens somewhere on vacation. uh, all of a sudden the situation is hmm karaoke, so

to say, you will absolutely not be ashamed, funny in karaoke. believe me, diva, that it seemed to the earth that it was hard for opera singers to sing. ah, popular songs. well, i was present several times and it seemed to me that i could drink them a little, or maybe a song by soviet composers. it's safe so on. but i invite you on may 8 to our amazing concert with oleg makuratov amazingly. he is a musician, you know amazing program with him. ah, the forties and seventies. tell me how i was brought up here on beautiful soviet songs. e, we also sing them now, there are families where children grew up on this beautiful music, and it exists to this day.

that is, if a child has grown up, uh, and listen to good music, then he has grown up, and he will continue to sing and listen to such melodic songs, which we are talking about now, now it’s just a little different. a trend, perhaps, so to speak, but i want to tell you. ah, what are those soviet songs and those songs that we grew up on, they sound to this day. believe me, they change a little in interpretation. eh, in some arrangements it's always very interesting. and at least i enjoy doing it. and for example, when opera singers, for example, sing, you have to be able to do it. uh, to have time, for example, with a small operatic sound she quietly sings, not all opera singers can sing. many people know how to do this tenderness, for example, you would have time on new year's eve on channel one the song tenderness i sang with pleasure

uh, our beloved, smelling on the stage of the kremlin palace. she went out and sat down at the piano. we hugged her, and it was very touching that the opera singer who sang the whole concert in operatic sounds. quietly with tears in his eyes, and it was in memory of my parents. uh, uh, there were photographs in the back. e, a of my parents. it was very touching. i stood there crying. my voice trembled a little, but i sang tenderness, i sang with a small sound, a touching sound. here e. that's when you get goosebumps, that's how we know how, that is, the bottom line is that opera singers they can also sing to other different music, and with some kind of collaboration with a rapper, you could enter and sing easily. yes, only the most. the main thing is that i like the song, that it is stylish, that it is fashionable. that

's when the mogu could not just exchange for some other music that i don't like. i'm still a very selective person, a very selective musician, so i have, uh, and all my programs that i have. they are very, very carefully woven from what would be interesting to you, and you such proposals come, of course, often, that is, there has not yet been such that you easily agreed. hmm, i easily disagree, i still easily disagree, but with pleasure, but i can provide for my own and operatic lives. well , this is derzhka, probably, this topic is further on about new year's eve for the first time in many years, uh, they began to write authors and uh words and music, that is, as it turned out. in general, this skill was somehow lost in general , and along with it, the authors were also lost, who were somewhere in the shadows. generally dissolved.

but why be an author to contribute? still no one knows. so maybe, and this is also the point, maybe that's why the songs are also somewhere. in general, share and good songs are meant, yes, good songs that you can sing. in general, if i am sure that in rap music there is, in general, an author who is able to create a work that can satisfy a great singer, because i am sure that after all, you probably have internal interests, in general, well in general, here azar should always be present ; the most important thing is that it be stylish and interesting, because this synthesis, which is difficult to combine, as if an opera with something others need to approach this very carefully, so that it would be, well, it didn’t work, so that it would be the service of music, so that it, so that it would remain to serve in life, friends. it should be stylish and interesting in order for great cool projects to take place, which we will talk about in the creative industry podcast roman karmanov

elena or on kiper, our guest is people's artist of russia velikaya. oh, thank you for today's story. girls, i'd like to welcome you to the studio our podcast is a must-read. today. we will talk about tolstoy's novel anna karenina, i would be interested to talk about the modern view of karenina's plot. it seems to me that this is very interesting and therefore i called you, because it seems to me that you will be wonderful interlocutors in this particular topic, and ekaterina barbanyaga will write elle with the author. e books about tolstoy, and an expert on tolstoy elina is a greek

art critic. big fan of the novel. we gathered as a women's team, because i i think that man e should not talk about this topic. she is very delicate. yes, we will talk today about adilter, after all, the novel is based on. therefore, i believe that it would be appropriate to talk about, let's say, the modern context of this situation with women. yes, we are all married or have been married. we have children. we are, so to speak , adult experienced women, and we already have some kind of formed point of view on this novel, but let me first mention that the novel on karenin is considered the prosaic standard of the pinnacle of literature and russian literature william fawkner, considered this novel a masterpiece and, e, named it three times as the best novel and musically. name three best novels. he said anna karenina three

times. we also know that nabokov was a big fan of this novel. and i also know that this novel. in a sense , a mystery, because we still do not understand. why but this is the topic of adultery of female infidelity, so to speak, the fall of a woman in society, huh? why is it the benchmark of the most widely read film adaptation of the novel so far? uh, that's the pinnacle of uh literary art elina, please tell us about nabokov's lectures. i know that you are a big fan of these lectures. yes, you know them, in general, a sideways fan, in principle, is still very big. of course, if they asked me, i would name anna karenina and other coasts, but they don’t ask me as a faulkner. i don’t know why, but so, and if we talk about nabokov’s lectures, vladimir vladimirovich’s wonderful lecture was a wonderful lecture on russian literature and, in general, surprising. by the way, i am anna karenina. i have read many times, and these lectures, probably,

twice and e in my youth completely having read the novel and, as a matter of fact, i was and absolutely agree with the opinion of nabokov, who expresses in these lectures. well, that's right verbatim, and then i hmm can be said to have quarreled. tell me what opinion, what opinion is absolutely certain, what is nabokov's opinion. and karenina as a character, let's say, as a woman, that she is the brightest, kindest , purest, er, character in russian literature. nabokov once explained why this novel is the standard and what did tolstoy manage to catch, well, let's say, he explains roman and e. well, since i’m still a little angry, i’ll tell you about karenina, not noticing some obvious things that, it seems to me, lev nikolayevich obviously pokes, but with e to the writer. thank you very much for this, you would have argued with nabokov that she is the purest person, give you 40 years, and you have been treated crazy by an adult with children,

nothing annoys you after certain stages in life. and in principle, you do not even condemn anyone. well, let's say that's my opinion, but to her as to man has changed. by the way, i heard that this novel is wonderful because it can be re-read. it changes and changes every time, maybe that's what it's all about. when is this story that its interesting to reread? katya, are you an expert? uh, according to tolstoy, you are an accomplice, let's call it that, but books about anna karenina by ariana karenina anna karenina's story. and tell me, please, how is there any parallel with the biography of tolstoy in e. this story of anna karenina, we will now talk a little about this and then briefly describe the plot, what main line is going on. yes, the indigenous novel is simply anna karenina. it is known that there are two frames, and therefore, if we are talking about the history of konstantin levin, then we understand , in fact, that there is a lot, and the sweatshirt of the line is present there, if we are talking about

the history of anna karenina, then in this kareninian line, rather tolstoy acted as an artist who, of course, took prototypes from life, but to say that such a situation happened in his life or he was somehow personally acquainted with it, but, probably not, but in this novel was laid down. well a few lines, yeah which happened in reality there with those close to him and with acquaintances, including his sister maria nikolaevna. yes, her family history. she married her relative valerian tolstoy, who cheated on her with everyone, including there with, er, servants with young ladies. and it’s even known that when they opened the attic, otherwise they found the corpses of small children, that is, a nightmare, but this is not very similar to anna’s story, yes, but the point is that in her life, but there was a story of male betrayal and from this nightmare . she fled abroad, where it already happened to her,

actually her love story, where she fell in love with this man. well, not so, but almost young, yes, the french are behind me and gave birth to a daughter from him not by marriage, and this one is the story, but a daughter born out of wedlock and difficulties. her introduction to the world, yes, from what happened then, and this is vanya karenina . you can see this line, and lime in the case of anna pirogov herself, the girl who lived next door, and was a housekeeper, and bibikov landowner was his mistress . and that's when he found a noble lineage noble woman no no, and when he decided to marry was a widower with children. i decided to thread a second time already. and then actually she was superfluous in this situation. and here she is, and rushed into the thin. yes, and rushed under the train

wrote a note, but that you will suffer, realizing your guilt. tolstoy came to honor the memory of the deceased woman. well, it happened not just before his eyes, but here nearby. and when it became known that there was a woman on the rails, he went to the anatomy. theater look at went to the anatomical so the writer he wanted to see all the details they were generally very interested in death, how about an announcement. he was always very, well, curious about this matter, and therefore it was interesting for them to look, of course, at the body of a woman torn to pieces. hmm oh, on a search. yes , it is interesting that she does not give such an ugly death. let's put it this way, although nabokov writes anna karenina's suicide about beauty. well camon well, i don't know, there's no beauty in suicide at all. let's speak the truth. let's talk about the plot, that is, anna is a married woman with a child of 26 years old. yes she meets e

guards officer of the voronsky e, to fall in love with him 23. oh, well, he’s actually not much , yo-my, when she says a boy, she rather refers to him, because she is already a married woman with a child and her husband is much older than her. well, how much rich is the husband, 46. well, she is 26, well, 20 years old. this is the difference husband works. e in the government and anna here is her e, so to speak, love her gulter. she , uh, decides. uh, let's say open to society, she does not hide it in this way , her act slaps the public, uh, which we can call an act. it is the desire of your love. uh, officially a to announce to the world. do i understand this correctly, what can you correct at that time in that era that tolstoy describes which he recreates and the real epoch and it is about

the same, yes, there was a lult everywhere and on the right to the left, but high society understood that a has certain rules for which you can't. tell me what kind of rule at the same time society met in the salons. yes, that is somehow silly actually. some dinners, yes, which were given everything, well, from the salon, that's where a with a man and a woman could not remain alone in front of our eyes. well, people, yes, that is, they should not have seen that someone was sitting in a corner and talking together or went into the next room talking together, this immediately gave rise to a wave of rumors and was indecent, therefore, if there was communication between a man and a woman in restaurants there were numbers, and there are other places where this did not happen in front of people, respectively, lovers did not come to the theater together, sitting down. in the neighboring lie. yes, it was disobedience. it's because to come with growth, in my opinion, opera yes, she

wants to later. well, he's not going, he's going, but she wants to be present with her man in secular public places, but this is impossible, because it's too much. she's on another person. in general, society despised. she actually became a guy, yes and they stopped taking it after she opened it. yes, this novel. eh, with vronsky they looked at her, whispered , that is, she actually turned into such a persona non grata, but turned into her voluntary, that is, she was warned. i i understand correctly that it will be so, even her husband warned him, where i also cursed in these in this situation. the princess of disaster, tverskaya, tells her the same thing. although the disaster, there itself to put it mildly, good. and in principle, she lives in the light. she grandexa follows the rules of the alder. how yes, as they are called the soviet rule of the soviet dulter. but no, what do you think, now we have a rule of consequence?