turkey is better than any revolution, but by the way, i think that the island of crimea gives such hope, because the ending of this novel. he is so very kind, but the tragic terrible, yes, there is a son, yes, anton luchnikov, that is, uh, son. anton is just his name son anton grandson, arsenia, that is, there is also a name there. this is some kind of andrey, father arseniy anton, not by chance, accidentally killed these things. all of them are leaving, the crimea and the soviet soldiers must destroy them, but they do not destroy them. it's very beautiful, they fly in a helicopter. aksyonovsky language, they are almost obscene. they say. yes what says the most. eh, here's how the cross says the guy lies, and there is another child one says. yes, i will not drop the bomb. he says, well, how can you throw a bomb at a living person, they shoot past and the person who controls those, which means they

speak with a course, which means, you know, they say, the task is completed, this task is repeated, the task is completed, and these and this is what there is great hope. uh, that reconciliation is really possible, and dialogue is possible, so you still get me from this novel. here. uh, good feeling is one of the mysteries of literature, because sometimes a person writes some absolutely creepy things. things without any light, and then read and what color feeling? well, if he killed them, it would be very bad, after all, he spared him for it. thank you yes, if he had not described how gromit was there, all those who joined here in yalta would also have a poor understanding. but you know about this feeling of light, i am now from a completely different area. i will give an example and even a different age and that's it. now i got

to read a book published by minusinsk of the novel. senchina with a bad house name. horror absolutely chernukha goes. and you read the story light sensations. this is a literary mystery, and therefore i have it all in the mystery, you understand, and god gave him to write this. this is roman as the island of crimea, and it’s not by chance that it’s so common that now, uh, you don’t even need to repeat it anymore. no one has already forgotten who crimea is . yes, this novel still takes its place in aksenov's work and it takes its place. here in this here excellent literature dedicated to the crimea starting. well, at least. from pushkin there is the bakhchisarai fountain of lyricists. pushkin then sevastopol stories then chekhov kukurushin voloshin limbs. paustovsky alexander green greenland is the same crimean country. but i wonder for vasily

palych that it mattered to this here belonging, the feeling that he belongs to this crimean text. you know, i think he never thought about it and never declared it, but he felt it. and who he had at all, these are his favorite writers. e out such an older generation from the classics, some literary idols . you know, it’s hard for me to remember right now, so i think that, of course, he loved western hemingways there, most likely, this is all understandable, yes. you know, well, i'm one of ours. so, babel was mined by platonov. but by the way, i'm talking about green. this is a very interesting thing, because green also, in fact, made his own island, crimea, greenland is really geographically. in general, it is located in the crimea. although in his green novels. she is scattered all over the world, but all these cities, and there is zurbagan, yes, and there is also a lilis, right? here, this is all in general, the crimean cities, because he lived in the crimea, but for quite a few

years. in the last years of his life, he wrote, and he also recreated, this crimean text crimean is also such a miracle, because outwardly his texts seem to be chicha. why come up with some kind of scarlet sails there is all that stuff. but no. that's the most important thing, as a person writes, you still understand, not even what he thinks the house, while thinking like that, you can do whatever you want. and that's why? well you are everything you know, no worse than me, especially since you understand the personality here? you can come up with anything you want and tell that i will write everything that you try, write it and here the higher power is already turned on, of course. well, yes, and vasilyevich , uh, certainly had it, and then look. eh, he also has such a very tragic biography. yes, my father sat, sat , sat more than my mother, moreover, when they were imprisoned.

first they imprisoned, uh, mother, then father, so they thought that they would never see, because you think, well, it's all over, and so my father already had another family, then everything, although he loved the match very much. that is, my wife evgenia of this famous book steep route, so i just found him father aksyonovsky, which means that it’s interesting, just at the same time, when he wrote everything before leaving. here he came to say goodbye to him, so before leaving. and that she aksyonov had a conversation with him there, then she leaves. well, i can’t talk to pasha. and this, by the way, these relationships exist in kryny island, too , between father and son. yes, but they are very gentle, how is the grandfather loves the grandson, how the grandson loves the grandfather, these are the lines, they really hold. this novel. they turn it from political to kind of a family family,

basically a family saga that could go even further, i guess, and i would also say it's a love story. you see, it's very interesting right now. there it begins that they appear in the house of the archers in two american professional outfits, yes, which, well , such women, as we now say , with reduced social responsibility, and suddenly at the end of the novel it turns out that they grow up and they become such quite the subject of serious love. and this human growth, which is there, is also very important, and kaev loved him, touching him, he loved and protected and covered, he protected and covered, how interesting and how it means why he was rolled into the magazine youth you know no. so yunost was the most popular team. if the new world had a circulation of, say, 50-100.000, then kotaev’s youth had a million under a million, well, that’s

because such figures were lowered from above, if yes, if they were released and the new world would no longer be it would be impossible to subscribe to them then you play this subscription, in my opinion, this is just not a concept, because the youth all read it, i remember his youth will be printed in youth. yes, that's right, in literature. i am from students. now i explain what it means to be stupider. which one to take in an envelope, put it to send in the ranks, look for a person who will give someone such a person in their hands. evgenia simonovna kenzur asked him to show kataev tells two short stories by aksyonovsky. this means he read them and he was delighted by the phrase that the surface of the channel in st. petersburg resembled a piano cover that was not wiped off so cool, and he read this phrase and said, immediately to

be different. and this was the first publication of aksyonov, which he was extremely dissatisfied with, because it was two komsomol stories. and then it’s wonderful when he already has a higher colleague. this is already aksyonok to read it. she describes in her memoirs how he was called to the youth magazine where they sat the great people kataev stroked everything and suddenly we are rolling, which means you say that but there is immediately a wonderful new writer vasily aksyonov and some people have contributed dozens of numbers, colleagues, you know, so he has already received such glory, at least there yes, of course , amazing was a man with an enviable. uh, fate with its incredible literary victories, who lived such a very beautiful life. here, so let's say to him, thank you for what he was for him to say. that's what he said there are stars. and there are idols, you know, a star

a star, everything can be popular there, then the idol will go out forever. here is the idol aksyonov in the dandy iskander of wonderful philosophers. and shukshin and thanks to all of them, because there is no absolutely different and absolutely supporting life in our country. thanks to you and evgeny anatolyevich remembering vasily pavlovich, read, friends, re-read aksyonov and you will get great pleasure. this is a podcast. a wonderful life, and alexei varlamov, a writer and rector of a literary institute, was with you. and i was visiting a wonderful prose writer and suddenly vasily pavlovich evgeny anatolyevich popov

today we have gathered our thoughts on the topic of fasting. hello dear friends pavel giants natalya gennadievna loseva let's start with tolstoy leo tolstoy writes in his diary. i'm not verbatim, i'm quoting. yes , experts will forgive me, we need to deal with fasting with orthodoxy govel. nothing burnt out, honest , i didn’t feel anything, it’s all nonsense. what is wrong? or maybe not a bug. well, of course, i can’t answer the great classic, what he said, probably some there was this moment, it’s either he didn’t have it somewhere with me, and such a school left, where i don’t remember. yes, you see, you can simply observe because i was told that

it was right. it is possible to observe fasting, because this is my sacrifice to god, a certain part , relatively speaking, the great four tens , a tenth of my life. she is specifically dedicated to god. and you can just carry out consciously meaningfully understanding how it works, depending on what modality of the post we will be in general, you can simply observe, you can simply, because children. yes it is, maybe you want to talk about it. we will definitely come to this. i know i have my own version. naturally. ah. lev nikolayevich set up a scientific experiment. if otherwise, i would always be here when i first read it, i mentally entered into a dialogue with the great. i say count. and why did you decide that you had to feel something certain? what do you think, he is generally the maximum person who learned there, er, a bunch of languages ​​and began to learn japanese. in his ninth decade of his life. yes.

this is the same person who set himself. obviously unreachable goals and was disappointed. yes, and broke off this does not match. well, i don’t know, i know a huge number , uh, people and stories, when such a zealous non-athenian , at the beginning of the post, led to rather severe disappointment and many years of resentment at himself and of course, leo nikolayevich tolstoy , it seems to me, also i would like, of course, to claim to be, uh, a psychoanalyst. i have long agreed, but it seems to me that it was insulting to myself, of course, it was an insult. for some not fulfilled expectations. and it seems to me to myself, well, that there is a person somewhere, uh, obviously, it seems to me, he was waiting for some kind of uh, there uh, the insight of some kind of transformation, some kind of metamorphosis. yes, that's all,

the holiday has come, the door, i open the gift. no, as for some reason i was reminded of one story, one of my friends told me that his friend decided. so the church for the first time in its life immediately fasted everything, as it should be according to the church charter. prepared for the first confession in my life everything is really great e. thursday, he went to confession, took communion for the first time in his life , came home, opened the freezer. he took out a frozen steak, ate it and said more. i will never do that. in the sense of eating a steak, do not fast at all, or go to the temple , nothing. it seems to me that this is very bad. he's not raw. i hope at least stood no. listen, you are laughing. wow, just a classic. listen like this right now. it seems to me, cynically, uh, we went through

thousands of people who had their first experience of strict fasting, of course, it was just like that, when i’ll go through this about completely unbearable disproportionate physical emotional limitation of your readiness. and so, when you just fly from tartarus, sometimes in the literal sense. yes, when they faint in the temple, well, you understand it right away, here lies a pale student, who, you know, how it even happens in reality, when one of our parishioners 15 years ago, a very, very responsible excellent student came with a printed sheet. with there a list of c 200 sins and marked with small checkmarks. so all her sins, but ticked she noted. how much she was there for a week between confessions, she sinned. yes, there 10

she was angry here, she was annoyed here there , she didn’t think something there. this is a very common way of neophyteism, and this, of course, is actually a big problem, because, uh, you especially know such an intellectual elite of the church, which you both belong to exada. yes, here is a mirror, look. you know such snobbery, so i can do it better there. well, you don't eat people. you are the area. since there is another host here you have your podcast. yes, i fused these. you said, uh hmm right there, and eat right, yes, graze. and what is it like to say goodbye correctly means to find the right internal tension that suits you specifically, which will be working, which will be productive. that is, we remove everything, this is superfluous. in what we usually creep a little. and then we conditionally

look at a certain indicator. this is the voltage arrow, in which zone is green , yellow or red, which is already shaking me. here it will be expressed in the fact that we finally find the time for spiritual strength and the ability to do what we previously did not have. this was not enough. and what, we perform first of all about love for god, love for one’s neighbor, but here i’ll interrupt you for a second, here’s what natasha began to say, there are already such two extreme approaches, yes two extremes, don’t eat one main idea. this snobbery is pseudo-intellectual. yes, something there , spreading butter on the sausage, the intellectual will put in the first weeks. the main people. they eat and immediately took a bite to eat the opposite point of view on the charter first money. there, dry food is everything, then it ends in a hungry way at best , or, as yes, with gastritis. uh, or as my friend said. here berries fasted so fasted did not eat anything. he condemned everyone. well, that is the same verdict. yes, but how do you

respond to the fact that i told you a spaniard, this is how to somehow collect yourself. it seems to me that the experience of going through this is very much. i really like it when you write about worship. uh lenten is not what you know i am envy. this is not such a feeling, but i am glad that people experience it, that a person experiences it and can say about it. for me. it is very difficult. both the first and the second. i have had different paths, but i have been in the church for many years now. eh, it's over 20 years old, and it 's nothing special, because it's these upswings downswings downswings, but uh, you're talking about something after all. i found harmony in eh, probably, you are aesthetics in beauty, but you understand it not in external beauty, that is, not something not byzantine, yes, but the beauty of this depth. you now worship you mean worship. i mean internal state. i'm really looking forward to great always. and

although for me as a person, uh, gourmet or still afraid it's always, of course, to cook. yes? yes, for me, uh, restriction, of course, restriction in food , i, well, i still try, thank god, i can still fast e, well, yes, it’s quite strict not in the monastic charter, but nevertheless, that’s how it is for me the post is this inner focus. this is the internal collection. this is such a mobilization. when you know you it's just that you're in the ocean in the sense that you, uh, finally have a reason which is often not enough in essence to discard a lot of things and concentrate. and in this sense, of course, the parish does not help, because i have parish traditions there for additional readings. here we are now reading not the first post. we read the old testament. and it's always some kind of you know this. well, or there, in the gospel, we read some, you know

, such an additional one, and the skeleton is a crystalline lattice that collects everything it goes away. it's finally tin. it's only great. it's just that you have such feelings, yes, because there are other multi-day ones, there are less strict, but short construction sites are too mouthy. yes, yes in order to, yes, by the way, it is physically harder for me to endure the assumption fast for two weeks than for a huge five-day one. but it's amazing that i'm sorry, please stop at 10 for a minute. it has never been difficult for me to graze physically at all , i speak with caution, because, as it were, as soon as you say something affirmative, it immediately begins. yes, well, here it’s to collect ourselves what you said, but at the same time, very people who will look at us. yes, they are still waiting for answers to some very specific questions. yes, and these treatments. well, it doesn't matter, how important, how unimportant, important, important, the food component of the supply chain, of course, is important. and at the same time

, we know that she even said not to the monastic charter, but there is no other. yes, there are monastic charters, that is, there is a charter for fasting, which everyone publishes. uh, already different and church secular media are different, uh, no one will go. they before why a normal priest is needed, you know , a priest, you understand, about which these words are such an important marker of the normality of lighting. yes, the fact that the priest sees before him a living person with a universal, and not just a function. those who come to the temple to light a candle say the right things at confession, then they take communion and disappear and he knows nothing about her. do not go away, how can a person fast to fast intelligently, there is the highest good, the activity of prudence. yes, the ability to distinguish the real from the apparent.

here, uh, the result of fasting is recognized by the fruits, if a person finds himself in such a story as we have just told this, it means that he was radically wrongly chosen. eh, the mode of this post is normal when there is tension, but it does not, as it were, destroy a person. i had a completely funny story, when i was still a student of the academy, there was, uh, such a young man, very so pious, very so strong. so he decided with a great post right now to really get caught in the academic pavlovsk. what is it means? it means got up on friday morning on a stupid mobile, after a throw to work. this is the first week. it starts there hours. the seventh and ends somewhere around half past two, so he comes from this service, but i went to the academic, like any normal healthy thinking student who knows his limits. oh, why do lazy people get tired there too? everything, well, that's how it is, there are such. he comes. i watch it wobble. sasha, so he hardly

holds the focus and gives out a completely brilliant phrase, when 12:00 o'clock. i realized that this service will never end. i started to pray. it's brilliant. today we gathered our thoughts on the topic of great lent and what it is eaten with natalia loseva archpriest pavel giants. i am vladimir of the left. yes, let's continue our conversation. it seems to me that the fast should not be light, it should absolutely be an effort and , you know, uh, i have one friend who is a friend, he is an orthodox church man, a big businessman, and he conducts experiments, uh, outstanding in any vegetable squirrel and he makes such cutlets from vegetable protein. there are all sorts of cereals. ah, american meat. yes, they are delicious, but not well, they just won’t measure them. it's just impossible to post, this is not a post. i think that you think the post

should be uncomfortable. yes, it should be simple in what, in order to allow god to be a little. here, to free up a little space so that there is where to come. yes , it makes sense to put something if we are talking about ten, that it’s just saturdays, that saturday will be abolished once. minite and it turns out there is god allowed to be, please, yes, stop flying. stop fussing stop twitching to deal with your worldly issues these places are for god . look. after all, if we look at some of the technical components of the post, we will see that they are, in a completely surprising way, combined with secular tendencies, which i’m talking about, that’s what they call it, because now it’s very, very, fashionable to introduce various kinds of austerities, for example, conscious

consumption of proper nutrition. emotional intelligence. healthy lifestyle is including, so to speak, emotionally moral and moral, and it turns out that we tell a person that look, you can do everything that is trendy and fashionable now and what do you learn on different coaches? forgive me , god session, so starve, only well, just not 300. yes, that is, everything is the same. this is all a huge bubbling of my vedic ego, you know, but maybe a person through this practice is interesting later, well, through practice, here are the limitations of awareness of emotional intelligence of mercy humanism about helping the weak. let's take a step back now one minute. here's what he said. i think there are a lot of twists and turns here. this is how i would like to start it, indeed, on the one hand, life includes

such, as it were, ascetic or never ascetic exercises. yes, quite skeptical, but on the other hand, there is an idea that, well, maybe a little earlier, it was more vivid, that christianity is constantly socks, that is, constantly humility of the flesh. there you don’t eat up , you don’t get enough sleep, and so on. but what is important about what i would like to say very much christianity , against the background of, at least, those religions that existed when it arose, was not at all distinguished by extreme maskism, christians in general. it came into the world with the statement that you need to turn on your head and avoid extremes. and this is the first part, more precisely, the second, but the first. and here is what we are now approaching, that all this is done for the sake of christ, the famous christian author, let's say this, but here, yes, and he chrysostom says that if you do not marry because of contempt for marriage, and not love for christ then, this is worse than wantonness, of course, what does that mean? that's for christ, uh, that means

what's a christian to understand? yes, you understand what it means for the sake of christ. this means that it allows us to tune in to a certain tone, so to speak, a certain resonance with how christ lived and taught . this is that we have a powerful magnet on which it constantly sticks. what is passion passion is a healthy aspiration of the strength of the soul, which stuck on the person himself and it becomes primary here just the same. this monok here is the lure of pleasure. and fasting in this sense helps a person to feel that he can tear himself away from this magnet. and so, when he tears off, relatively speaking, a certain excess of energy arises from him, an excess of force , which either he directs at himself within the framework of some coach technologies coach practitioner

and there, thereby he will increase his own importance, his controllability and everything else or he will turn it to god in order to so that forgive me there was a high-speed channel of communication with god and interaction with god so that he began to recognize. what is the will of god and this will of god when a person begins to see it in no way some kind of antagonist in relation to the person himself. and what reveals you inside, when you begin to feel that god actually did this world less just like that. he wants something from me that he wants from me since he always brought me he knows much better what i can do. but this is already the very depth, but look one more step back. now to the question which natasha asked, as i understand it, yes, and if not, then for the sake of christ, everything else is there. yes, uh, and even there some kind of help is somewhat weaker. this is love for them and love. maybe, i think it 's still better than if it didn't exist,

in general, here's a man who came home from work and took a bottle. pifa, pivasika, turned on some kind of series or some kind of movie. and so he thinks, he feels quite well for himself and everything can intersect interestingly. i want to ask you how is eucalyte lobachevsky can they transfer e, a person who fasts to the church by christ and for the sake of christ, and the second is direct, when a person does the same. the same austerity, the same love , also mercy, but without christ they can cross in the end. i think they can, of course even. well, it means that there is also nothing just a man. you may not be aware of it. well look good. and why at all is this all the pumping of certain qualities? he already has some kind of goal-setting for the sake of what the best version of you is better for. here, imagine that each

the next best version of you, it does not lead to the fact that the need for god, it decreases, on the contrary, it increases. you understand that, relatively speaking, you create a beautiful frame around you about the content, it remains the same as it was disagree, wait disagree. yes, you remember, the ball spoke with whom with engels, or a scout with wallpaper, i do not agree , this cannot intersect. you know, it seems to me, why because there is a principle, a fundamental difference in these two situations in situations where a person does not think about god and further he is all beautiful white fluffy at the heart of everything says, i can do any training. i can. yes you are. you deserve it. you must love yourself. you must there i can and you then god begins with words. i can't and

how is it, can it be, can it fit? file's father said, i'm only on one occasion, if he thinks he can, yes, it says, well, he's doing some good deeds. and god eventually shows him that in general, it's not you, he must understand at some point that it's not. did you get it or something the other is that if you try without christ to achieve a better version of yourself and some ideal version of yourself, then you eventually begin to realize yourself as the best version in the world. that is, god and further so pride fall everything that we know further ourselves because this is my own constructed by my ego, the universe in which it’s not that it’s not that there will be no place for god. he's excluded. by definition, he excluded, yes, and here we settle down. well, you don’t want to be saved, you don’t want to do it, the church says, so it is in this obedience, as cutting off our will, and we

give to the one whom we trust, whom we love in this sense, this is both a sacrifice and at the same time a powerful tool for pumping. here is space for another. here is my world. he is still there. you have your own world. you have your own world, it still exists. and here's the next question. to what extent do we allow something or someone else to enter it, but how to find it? here is one of the questions, so to speak, one of the methods was voiced, but to find a priest there, who will help you. well, look, it turns out here that we accept the thesis of father paul that fasting is a kind of state of discomfort, while we remember how father paul began that with this state of discomfort, if it is not moderate, you can imagine bring you to the point where you either faint or start eating frozen steaks and talking. i never mean it again, it's a matter of measure. but how is it? that's how people look, i listen to you. i listen, you are all fools, yes, how to define it? here, maybe

priest help? ah, if there is no priest, or he. hmm, too, can be mistaken, how i must feel. here is the serial. that's what i like about the series. uh, i decide by post, i will not watch the series, therefore, well, the first week i will not be accurate, then there is no monday evening, more precisely in the morning. well, i didn’t watch yesterday today, because this discomfort does not give the result of that discomfort, the discomfort itself will not be born. well, how discomfort for the sake of a pause in life should appear, a pause should appear, life should appear some metaphors, some islands of emptiness. you know, well, it's easier. e, a person , instead of spending an hour on cooking , spent, considering lean food, considering the simplification of a significant simplification, in general, of the whole relationship to the process of nutrition. he spent half an hour , half an hour was released from him, damn, what is a body? for half an hour you can go out into the street and just have nothing to think about and do nothing. this is a great

opportunity to just turn in shoes. just be alone with yourself look inside yourself. this already means your post works. if, because you fast, your cooking time increases one and a half times, if your budget increases three times, because shrimp, because after that, and so on, then you are wrong in that you , it can be very bad due to the fact that you haven’t eaten your favorite meat for 3 whole weeks. something else sberbank is a loan, the lowest rate in 10 years. yes, friend, how much you and i have in total it was, remember, i was looking for the keys, and you had them. he didn’t let his springs unfold to sleep.

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the most interesting part of our conversation. why you can not lose weight on lean food. in theory, let’s say experts very simply, we remove animal protein , that is, it cannot even be compensated by permitted teams , and therefore our food becomes carbohydrate and hello and hello yes, that is, we just upset the whole balance, so the only opportunity will not be heard in breadth. what kind of trick is this? uh, fried potatoes, uh, with onion mushrooms and a plate of pasta and stuff, that is, those very excesses, that is, you should limit you, uh, 100, not only uh, in terms of diversity, well, its calorie content and quantity. if you don't want to, then three sizes more to fit into an easter dress. what would buy a new what a new red dress? yeah but, uh, that's why it's such a typical misconception and so he says, ha, he's there, how can he fast? here he gets better, well , he got better, because really such yes, it

's another matter that now, uh, all uh studies show that periods of abstinence from animal protein, very, very useful in terms of rejuvenation of the body. so, after all, there is a benefit, physical, well, this is 100%, and i think that it’s not so simple that the tradition of fasting was formed by the most modern nutritionists who say, well, lord, you should eat meat uh, so to speak, no more, uh, third uh days of the year, and then we take a calculator, count wednesdays, fridays, fasts, you know? yes? this is our orthodoxy is less than the third. even less. than a third we have over 200 if we observe wednesday friday. yes, there were 200 fast days in a year, in my opinion, yes, it does. well, that is, it turns out that, well, yes, it turns out that for 2/3 of the year i don’t eat meat and that’s another thing. what do you understand? here is my long-suffering experience, yes

, with broken knees in the trash. in the literal figurative sense, it shows that, e, for a more or less productive passage of post e, you still just pass well. you are never satisfied in the end. you still always feel at the end of the post. yes, those days have flown by. you haven't achieved anything. you're just here, yes. just uh, start on the cons the third floor, it seems to you, here, but nevertheless. i realized for myself that fasting is only possible in the network, the right left side in the sense that you are limited in food, and you are, and in the spiritual e plan , the church traditions of the great canon are being reconstructed in this sense. and the rather physically tiring days of the first week of great lent are very well mobilized by anti, and this helps both restriction in food and

spiritual, this is physical mobilization, including bowing to the ground. yes, when even a trained person starts to hurt you so much. eh, that's very cool. helps to balance everything. one of my friends brought a brilliant phrase to a sermon, he says, well, grandmothers come to me, then they barely drag a lot of people say, and what about the tank we barely have to use this one, and i tell them what two wings of fasting is fasting and prayer. now, if you walk into lava every day, and in the morning and in the evening, then you cannot eat with oil. and if you do not see such an opportunity to walk, then, sorry. you should eat with butter , and there is some wisdom in this, but these are words of duty, it seems to me that there is a lack of some kind of popularization or enlightenment of the norm and measure of fasting, because