[000:00:00;00] that's just more of the console, because then it was still, if i'm not mistaken, an exclusive for the console, and later it came out, in my opinion, on the pc, but the point is not the point, the point is that and these are the games that we but everyone here who played them, we thought that now the playstation 5, and there are 40-90 ti xbox video cards new. but if those games are again graphics, well, this is generally a gap. it's just mega cool and here we are back to the money. yes, i agree with you here. just very simple. here's how much it costs development. how much does marketing cost , we said these gigantic commissions in order to beat it all off. they, of course, when you have a game cost of not one million dollars, and there you don’t want to take risks anymore, so there are proven schemes where there really is an audience. in general, to be honest, there is a feeling that there are fewer cool new products every year. here comes out. yes, i just remember before, even there, probably

five or six years. yes, you open some yandex or google e, in the search, waiting for the main expected games there. ugh next year. and it's just dark there, and you're flipping through and you understand. oh this this this i want. and here we are, and we will play with a friend. a. well, that’s where i scored 20 games in my head there 25. now i’ll even say, uh, there, just a couple of days ago i looked, i understand that well, five. well, maybe six just got old. well, i can’t understand, i’ve grown old and my environment is there or have the games really become a little different, of course we all get older, but the fact is that the market is changing, and the market is not changing by itself. he is changing following our world, as we know, our world has entered a completely unique phase. and it can be called differently, it is definitely interesting and will lead to colossal changes. and what we see now is an attempt to rebuild, because now there are a huge

number of connections. and it begins to break, and because nature does not tolerate emptiness. they appear in another place, perestroika is underway, and just at that moment no one wants to take risks, so now everyone will play in the gamedev market. in my understanding, either as much as possible, or vice versa, most adventurous. someone will probably try to make something very cheap right now, very, uh, well, good luck, and it can shoot. you see, if we look at the game mechanics that are used, they are all beaten up, yes, new mechanics may appear , or with the advent of a new tool. here is the same virtual to full reality, or something fundamentally new from the point of view of the approach, but here virtual reality has already presented a lot of things to us. but, by the way, hmm, i'm young, but i still remember

time, yes they called it were games. were there mice? oh yes, there were simply no mice and played. i'm the same wolfenstein on the keyboard and still played mortal kombat. yes? yes, yes, yes, and then there was a mouse. and you know, that was the feeling when it was as if the wings behind my back opened up. i realized that there are huge opportunities in front of me, this small simple tool allows you to do something that was previously impossible. in principle, therefore, it is quite possible that now there will be some kind of breakthrough technological moment. let's take one more moment. uh, so, as we have, uh, the first issue, we only introduce our audience. maybe with computers. and who it is the audience that really plays everything , there is some age. here's what we can highlight, and there are popular women that play, mostly only young people. actually. this is really a delusion, and if in russia we can talk about the average age of a gamer, very different estimates from the higher

school of economics give 36-37 years. and some polls give 31-33 years. this is due to the fact that you are 36 so connected that you are hard. i didn't say that. i didn't confirm anything. and in the usa it’s a little older, and in china it’s a little younger, but more or less all over the world there is a general trend that it’s not children who play , moreover, most importantly, it’s not children who pay. we as developers, we want to earn what we want, we want to earn a day. we don't want to just make free games that we pay for ourselves, so we want to make games for adults. we want to make games smarter. we want to make games with a big plot, so that you yourself would be interested make these games, as i understand it, right? well , including there is something very interesting to make simple games, it seems to me, that is. first you do it did. it is insanely difficult to make a simple one, roughly speaking, much more difficult in my understanding. and like i said games. this is, uh, huge popularity, this

is culture, and this is a conductor, and in my understanding , all over the world now, and the state will make state orders for the creation of the right games for the youngest population. here's a look at china is the same. it has already started there. you can then say that the game. it's already a new media it's already a fait accompli or it's the future, it's something more than media it's something more. than entertainment. this is a new kind of culture in my understanding. it's a crossroads of art culture - it's something that wasn't there before. well, that sounds really ambitious. this is true, but as they say, they didn’t set everything, but it’s very interesting, and indeed, according to statistics, people now play games more, go to the movies, for example, this has already happened. let's let's be honest 19.6% points for the pandemic is not experienced growth, how are you? this is the 20th year we usually grow there, well, 8% a year here

almost 20 at once. naturally, all investors rushed to give money for games. naturally, and these are indirect investors and private investors and funds, all in russia , such a number of investment funds have appeared that i have never seen exactly at the end of this twentieth year. well, okay. these are the growth rates. i would like to invest in it. why this will bring us for gamers the usual reed for developers, even more vacancies more products someone will fail. yes, this is a fact of venture, it's okay, but suddenly there will be cool titles. i would like to believe in the best. i believe in our geniuses too. here, even against the background of e-sports, it happened many times that we have the genius of e-sports, alive, between sorry , repeat again, please, russia has always been rich in talents. and uh. task in my understanding of the state. just help these talent. you know how they joked in the soviet union. help talent mediocrity. here is the same story, uh, there is. yes already here

direction. you know how we made friends. i propose to slow down at this moment today, so that it would be more interesting to find out a good release of what is in russia now with video games that awaits. we are twenty-third year and generally talk in more detail, how i will make money on the computer will share with us friends. is this a podcast pc or console? my name is ilya pekatsky esportsman and my friends dmitry president of the russian esports federation konstantin likes everywhere on the tv the like button and than we put see you very soon.

guys, i'm very glad to see you, i'm glad that you all came and i wanted to introduce you to each other. this is olga sergeeva, actress, theater film actress. now olya and i were working together on the movie girl. baba, a children's picture, where i was the director, and olga was the performer one of the main roles. work when you found out that we will discuss romantic russian fiction today. i realized that we need the opinion of a teenager. that's because i believe that teenagers are the main audience of literature. here are the so-called, namely, as

grown-up boys and girls. and the musician, by the way, also roma has a philosophical , let's say, approach to various phenomena. i really like the way roma talks, and that's why i wanted roma to tell us something as a writer about writers, that 's how, respectively, as a philosopher, uh, and a culturologist. perhaps, what about searchopism as such? that is. can we even consider these authors escopists? today we will talk about alexander green alexander belyaev, i decided combine them into one topic, because they have a lot of parallels in fate. and i think in literature. we have a wonderful, and green's work scarlet sails, which is included in everything, so to speak , memes. yes, what is possible, here we have an amphibious man, and there is the head

of the duel professor, that is, these are also very bright works, which i am sure will never be filmed. let's start the salt. olya tell me please, you read scarlet sails. yes, you watched the movie in yourself , what else did you read the wave runner. this novel? grina yes, please tell me what you think about it. all works are quite interesting in them, you can just find a lot of parallels. there are some love threads there. uh, love triangles, love squares. it's actually very interesting to watch. well, let's talk about why, uh, can these authors be called escopists? what is scopism? in general, as a phenomenon of philosophy, yes, but the theme of escapism. it is so very extensive. and here is the definition of some kind of philosophy. yes it

escape is simple escape from the english word escape escape well, in this case, escape from reality, from the present self, from the fictional self, from oneself from some own ideas. that is, it is a huge mass of everything, but i would like before the reality. yes, well, first i would like to say that if belyaev and green and the scopists. that, and these are people who made a kind of cultural throw that they did not hide. they didn’t hide somewhere , they just rushed, and they came out victorious, that is, they endured such wonderful deed. yes, let's say eternal works, i'm not afraid of this word. here but if you take escapism in general, uh, psychology and philosophy, it is not properly developed. it's just a term that fits, but in principle, to everything. that is, to any aspect of life, someone

becomes an informal, someone runs away from their parents, and someone runs away into literature and does it so brilliantly that, well, words , but there are no a, except for the high-flown ones, and the russian word is an outlet. now they also call escapism in russian. it's from the heart to come up with you know what the word is breathtaking. it was possible to unite and somehow name the hryvnia, but let's move it and with these guys, to scopismont, as it sounds incomprehensible, but if you figure it out, this is really an outlet. yes , people have created andrey my husband andrey rubanov is a writer. he also writes fantasy. and so he believes that the main thing for a writer is to create a meme, he says, and he believes that we , belyaev and green, they, well, with each created their own meme, one created scarlet sails, another

person with superpowers. yes man who can fly, as in the novel by lel or an amphibious man, a man who can live under water, in any case, they created some kind of image alone, but very yes, accurate powerful, which carries something in itself subconscious layers in people. yes, uh well, let's just say that the theater moves away from them. let's talk about, maybe a little biography of these writers. they were born at about the same time, this is the eightieth year of the 19th century, and accordingly, they formed there, how the personalities began to work. e somewhere around the twenties. yes and uh, they both survived the first world war and the hungry years revolution. uh, both experienced very serious health problems. yes. e is sometimes deadly, let's say that such subtle romantic natures have given

us this romantic classic. uh, it's been such a hard life. it seems to me that there is some connection, because the scarier reality is. yes, the more real you make this magical world for yourself olly tell me please, here is the e amphibian man, yes, and scarlet is just that, if we are talking just about here we have an image, uh, a plot about words. where the girl dreamed of her, they wondered that one day she would meet him, he would sail according to these sails. uh, and she believed in it for one of them. everyone laughed and thought she was a crazy fool, but one day, a really real prince decided to fulfill her dream. he sailed with sails, and the whole village saw that this girl's dream had come true, and she, of course, was glad to be sure. that all this

will happen, it happened, this is one story, yes , the classic one that remains and we will consider amphibian man alexander belyaev yes , there is a plot, probably everyone remembers, because everyone knows the film in the sixties wonderful with vladimir korenev and anastasia vertinskaya in the lead roles. well, i wanted to touch on, maybe a little more about belyaev’s biography, because he came up with this man an anfigia, who swims remarkably underwater. and like you say, love triangles. yes , some drama. that is, he brought pearls there, so he dived somewhere. yes, that is, all this is so impressive, but a man, who wrote this alexander belyaev with him. uh, there were health issues. he had bone tuberculosis, and he spent six years in a corset, not moving, but here it is necessary. and remember the professor's head is satisfied. yeah

, which he wrote, just under this one, yes belyaev is under the terrible impression of his own lying in bed, when it is impossible to move, when only the head works. and in general, it seems to me, it’s exactly here . hmm such a passion for dissecting bodies, that is, a light young shark the head of a professor exists on here he has a science passion for science. he was very fond of tsiolkovsky and he was very interested in what tselkovsky was doing, and it was superimposed on the disease. this tangle plus stoland. uh-huh, and gives us absolutely this amazing picture. look at the talent plus the experience that a person goes through, because both green and belyaev, despite some fantastic romanticism of these themes, they knew the material thoroughly, that is, belyaev knew what it was like not to move. he understood how

this is what professor doley's head is, how feels like a head that has no body? and greene, who invented bourgeois yes worlds , as critics said with rum, with some of these yes, sat in solitary confinement for 2 years for terrorism, that is, the man who fought and deserted was revolutionism. the shareholder was yes, he was in jail. well, you know, after two years in solitary confinement. and even then exile he became disillusioned with revolutionary activities. yes enough yes, but nevertheless he went through it. i just want to point out that these were people with real serious life experience, very hard for many writers. today, modern people are blamed for the fact that you are writing some kind of rubbish. yes, but it’s not clear why

there are so many beautiful things in the world besides her, and green and uh, belyaev being in such a really terrible state. they managed not to pull into their world. this is the world of literature. i'm telling you, it's a feat. that's what we started - escapism, as a feat, as a cultural feat. it seems to me that the program should be called as a cultural feat, yes, a cultural feat. well, i i agree that the worlds of these authors are so convincing. green even said that i can feel my world by touch. here is this lis zurbagan gel-gyu, some of these to him, belonging to this fox of the port city. he could draw it. he imagined himself so materially that when critics told him that you are inventing everything. you have all the superficial bourgeois e world that you do not know, yes, and no one knows and there is no reality in it. there is

the truth of life. and this, of course, was very unfair, because you can imagine, what work the writer did to create this world. they have had periods of success. and firstly, i wanted to say that belyaev was a fairly successful lawyer, how funny it is for some period of his life, but before he began to engage in active literature and he earned money. advent and even before the revolution i managed to go, uh, and i traveled around europe, he was in italy in france in general, i won’t say so as not to lie, but he saw european life. and, perhaps, these impressions left their mark. and green was a sailor, and also in his youth and also was on a trip. uh, that is, he traveled abroad, let's say, so they had something to rely on, probably even in describing this bourgeois life. i'd also like to say that hmm. except maybe

professor dowell's head. in the other three works, these are scarlet sails. running on the waves yes and uh amphibious man everywhere there is the sea, and the sea is a romantic symmetry. this is a romantic symbol, but not only this, but also as a symbol of the ocean of consciousness. yes, that is, such a feeling is created that all these troubles are love triangles are squares, and some deceptions. yes , forgeries all this is happening, and there is a sea nearby, who are watching this. their biographies were connected with the crimea and with the sea , too, such a parallel still exists in the crimea, and the amphibious man was filmed in the west of the crimea tarkhankut called olya's revenge please tell us more about the love triangles in these books. i would like to move on to the personal

life of our heroes and i would like to start all the same with their figurative representation. here you read it. yes, the works of belyaev and green here, as it seems to you, what kind of image of a man do you have. what is the image of a hero? what kind of relationship, let's say, in the works of belyaeva grain, namely, in a running amphibian full of humans. eh, the heroes of the main characters are all too confused, so to speak , and a confusing personal life, but in an amphibian man. ah, the main character. so it turns out that initially da gutero was supposed to marry a man whom she does not love, then she fell in love with their chan-dra, but it turned out. so he can't live we can't be. i can not be together and the result. she

married a man who loves her, but she thought he was her friend and everything was too complicated. it's like in life. all of this is not confusing. yes, this happens, and in the running was our main character. i thought that he loves the scourge of a romantic beauty. yes, but it turns out that the scourge is too mundane for him, and as a result, he chooses daisy the cheerful daisy yes, and there is also a frazy grant heroine. well, how would it be better yes, in fact, my most beloved of all this whole work. well, i want to tell you a little about my personal life. e our characters to make it clear. why is everything so confusing, because we have already summed up, summed up with roma that our writers are realists, in fact, that is, they are at least telescoping, but they also wrote their own experience. as real

serious writers do, therefore, all these intricate relationships with a woman took place , of course, in the fate of everyone. for example, i know progreen more because i read his biography, which i wrote. very good in the jozel series, green had several periods, several types of women, met he is on the way, for example, his first love is a revolutionary. katya bibergal, ekaterina vilgal. ah, named pussy artist. yes, i recalled sitting an interesting nickname, such a cinematic one, too, a little. yes, an absolutely cinematic story, because the person, uh, was engaged in revolutionary propaganda and was successful precisely as a hard propagandist and he was not given work, physically. yes, like a soldier's work , sailor's work and something else, that is , he liked it, he spoke well to green , many noted that green was a good speaker. he was remarkable marator he managed to win attention. so to speak, the first beauties

of the revolutionary get-togethers. uh, these socialist-revolutionaries and they had some kind of romance, but then he ended up, uh, for terrorist activities in prison. and when he was released, he went to see him. she refused and did not marry him. it was cloth, and he shot it with a revolver. that is, he was such a hot-tempered person. he shot e in the chest, that is, with the intent to kill. but the girl didn’t hit the heart, she survived and didn’t even like him handed over to the police, and in general, this story slacked off. here but nevertheless, he still ended up in jail, but also again about his, uh, terrorist activities. well, it sounds scary terrorist activity, in fact, it was, let's just say so, propaganda of revolutionary ideas, but the most interesting thing is that

i really like it. the story is about, uh, when he published his first book of short stories. he decided to brag about this girl, who naturally remained his spiritual wound, probably all his life, as first love and that no longer mutual and he sent her a link to his book. here, i'm just trying to imagine her, and here's olga imagine, woman. yes, he almost killed her, and then she stopped. read my book. well, how are you? i like and it was much more serious than today, well, the book came out, then it was an event really. well events, he wanted to mean something to her. wanted to show her that on a different level of oblique elbow. she really didn't want to see each other again. they never saw each other again, but he

was the first wife. and vera abramova , who was, probably, like whips in, uh, bichisanel. yes, this heroine, running on the waves, that is, it was. uh, a beautiful, alluring woman attractive to him, but uh, shall we say, not taking his literary work seriously. that is, she also criticized his desire, er, to make heroes with foreign names some kind of fictional life. i mean, she didn't understand him. they converged there, diverged, but in the end they finally parted somewhere. maybe to be before the revolution. here are quite young people anyway, they communicated all their lives, they corresponded. but then he had a hopeless crush on green, not mutual in his secretary.

the fact is that maxim gorky assembled a house of writers where they could live, get free food , or something like that, and there was a secretary , maria alonkina, and she was, so to speak, the muse of this whole house of writers. of course, writers were in love with her. she was very young. uh, apparently, a charming eel, not there was no chance, because he was ugly, gloomy, thin. completely detailed. yes, everyone said that he had a very nasty character, and , of course, he could not win the star of this house to write or, but nevertheless he was inspired to write and sail, but dedicated them already, the third one. so he met nikolaevna grin with him; this was his greatest luck. life was a woman who adored him , took care of him, took care of his literary work, comfortable conditions. she went with him to the end. and i'll even tell history. here, uh, about the house, it's probably interesting, yes, we can all discuss that

scarlet sails is an unreal story. well, made up. yes, this is some kind of myth romantic women believe that men can fulfill their dream, but i'll tell you a story. where did the woman enter, like this captain gray yes, the captain is warming himself. so she fulfilled her dream, and it was nina nikolaevna green censorship. he was crossed out of the popular authors they lived very poor, he got sick, he had uh, he was starting to break his stomach. yes, and the fact is that they rented abundance all the time, some kind of cheap housing in the crimea and were forced to wash from corner to corner, because on the wave of success, and not sold an apartment in st. petersburg, they wanted to go to the sea. there is a romantic atmosphere. well, life there was quite difficult, they just stopped publishing this one. they were looking all the time for a place where to live cheaper, they were left without

their own corner. and now nina nikolaevna made such a gift to him that, when it became clear that he was dying, he lay. and no longer got up. she gave him an adobe house, that is, uh, all the small savings that they had, she invested in an adobe house, you know what an adobe house is? no, this is such a hut, such a hut made of clay has seen such in the villages. in general, she gave him such a simple cheap most inconvenient. there was a window by the orchard. he could lie in his house and look at a very beautiful garden and for him. it was very important. the fact is that in the novel the wave runner there is a scene where e is a hero. uh, he gives a house to his girlfriend daisy he brings her to the house, they don’t say that this is her house, and then how, when she praises and says how she likes it, he gives her some kind of paper stating that nikolaevna played this house and even the same scene because that she

brought green to this house. and only when he said that she was magical. she said that the house is now theirs and, as far as i remember, in this house, then, as a result, the green museum in the old one. as far as i know, it also exists. here belyaev also had a romantic story. he also gravitated towards beautiful fatal women, but in the end he also realized that the writer needed another, such as a companion, the first companion. as far as i remember, i left him, just for the reason that a had a severe back pain, and she said that i wanted to live, and not look after a disabled person. and that's probably. it was such a first shock in his life in general, i would like to add the most interesting thing, and about, well, a little younger than the two of us at the age of olga and belyaev jumped from

the roofs of various buildings. this is how it appeared to him. here is the craving, to science even then, and he believed that he had god forbid such a craving in science. he speaks gravity and really takes off, that is, here is a romantic man from the very first days. that is, he was limiting himself to wings, some amazing constructions from an umbrella once even jumped. but the question is that after all, he injured his spine for the third time, which he later said, until not yet, finally i didn’t understand that this was impossible, i wasn’t convinced. and this injury turns out to be a trauma. then she said together with tuberculosis. yes, that's why he also found wonderful life partner. it’s just that there, unfortunately, there is also a tragic story , because his wife and daughter were captured by the germans and, in general, they were first captured, then, when they returned, uh, soviet russia ended up

in a camp. well, in general, life was very difficult . and not only for writers, but also in semey, nina nikolaevna green also had problems after the death of her dear husband. she worked in a printing house when the germans occupied the crimea and when this situation was already over. uh, the villagers, they started it. well here's to poison that she was in collaboration in the printing house. well , that is, this is such a moment, but you don’t explain to people that you really can’t get anywhere, but this, by the way, is the plot. pay attention to how much you writers intertwine life and work, because the same here, ah, but salt. by the way, this name was invented by green, this is the character of salt. she remained so romantic and a star of literature that only the super-commercial name that

green came up with, uh, this name does not exist, is a figment of his imagination, from sweets to factories. all in all this is assol ah. she was ridiculed in the village. that's just where she lived by the sea and the same story then goes on after his death. nina nikolaevna yes, she is subjected to ridicule and some kind of persecution of the inhabitants. eh, this non-native place where she lives and life accidentally brought there, but nonetheless. that 's where the grain museum remained in this old crimea, and in general, this place is already associated with it. here e obelyaev died in the village of pushkino near leningrad, then there was a terrible children's village, the story, of course, the city of pushkin turns out forty-second year the germans. ah, belyaev, uh, it turns out that there was no food in the house, no water at all and no heating. i mean, he just lay there. in the four walls, what

is called yes he died of hunger and the cold, we know that writers are usually very complex biographies, writers of all. yes, they removed it. yes, they simply removed their biographies. these are the most difficult, probably, these are the fates that i still wanted to say to scopism. still, back to our main topic. well, i don’t know about you, but i still have a parallel between assol and this is an ichthyander, but here are two characters that hmm that society does not accept does not understand. a. well, when evil people, let's say , see that he can, uh, stay under water for a long time, what they do to him immediately makes him look for pearls, mm. and this is a completely romantic young man who does not understand life , does not know that such people exist at all. yes, they know that real values

​​exist, well, assol is clear that the girl is not of this world, as she was portrayed in the dreamer, and she is also in her city. e. not popular, let's say, and respect. and this, too. in a sense, it can be called escapism, because it is forced nonscopism, that is, life is arranged in such a way that if you don’t want to fit in or can’t fit in, into this machine that works and works year after year , but catches up with money there. uh, some kind of happiness invented and not invented for everyone in their own way, be kind, then be patient. but this is ostratism and to be, but from a copyist, such which well, people have decided for you that you will be an outcast. here you go, by the way, will it be relevant today? is it possible to say now that right now there is