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who believe that they are the mother sleeping on the side of the road. however

, catherine herself was not going to give her son a second chance on january 27, the baby burned down in a fire, while the mother was saving other children. i hope that my son will understand there that it is not my fault, neighbors and acquaintances are sure that it was not an accident from the tragic pattern of the way of life that a careless mother led, what a mother she is. and that she is watching them, that she loved to burn out at night, they froze there on the street now , together with these tourists flying under. something would have been sitting there, would not have thrown them, this would not have happened today in the male female studio. we will learn all the circumstances of the terrible death of vitalik odikov. why didn’t the guardianship authorities respond to the constant complaints of

ekaterina’s neighbors and relatives and will they now be given a second chance for criminal negligence that led to the death of a child? today in our studio svetlana gorshkova and evgeniy are the parents of ekaterina olegova. hello, tell us what happened to us, we almost died. well, damn it, please accept, our condolences are very worried about this for everything and we are worried about our two granddaughters, who are now alone in the baby house, the other is somewhere in the house, that they will be given back, and the mother of these children is your daughter. well, tanechka was an adult, because of this she was with us for the most part. and i somehow forced vital something on the child was in the kindergarten, that he could be taken to us. how the fire happened, what happened it called me on the

third phone and asked for 2:30 in the afternoon. yes, yes, yes, yes , and she said that there was something missing from me there, so that i could take tanya to her. she says so woman. may i not go? do not go 15 minutes past three, she calls with hysteria and says that vital has died, that he is no more. we immediately arrived with tanya. tanya was already crying in my car, so, well, we immediately arrived there. i just came up and said, i say that i got it out of my own, that you didn’t lose the film. you realize that you can't bring it back. you arrived? have you caught the firefighters, already there was an ambulance in one , vitali was already dead, well, the other polina was coming to life. what is your daughter's condition? was sober? no, most likely not. she drinks. she, because these are the days these days we were on saturday or sunday, in my opinion, on sunday we

came, she drank. so we arrived, how to ask for what it turned out to be baby tanya, we had to buy things. warm here. well, at least take something for the child. she drank with sergei from the dzhihanchik out. and who is this? a? here, as her roommate, and whom polina where she was even at the moment well, she says that she was with her friend, and the children were alone at home, a the children were alone at home. no, 3 years old, he is 3 years and 7 months old. yes, yes, and they are alone at home, as we have repeatedly visited. here to them. well, how to visit vitalik there, bring something to polina or take vitalik, on the contrary, to her place. i have never been at home. absolutely. you understand that i cannot but ask you this question now. despite even your grief. why didn't you somehow sound the alarm about polina vitalik why didn't you take them to your place, many questions arise. now no one heard us. where are you

applied to the guardianship of the social security of kryapova vera nikola- they walked endlessly. i even had such here. well, here are the moments, when tanya was just born, i sued her decision to restrict non-parental rights. and her here is that she is diagnosed with oligophrenia. i applied to protect her here. yes, yes, yes, the court, it was the guardianship that stood up. even so, i asked them for help. but no, yes, yes, so i asked them for help, that they were in danger, you told them about it. yes? behold, they stood up and endured the verdict that we are pushing her to live do not let. that's all. the mentally retarded incapacitated was carried out everything, then we wrote. she once wrote to me there, i wrote to pavlova on the rights of the child of the chelyabinsk region. they gave me a curator. there, the diagnosis of alga was never made at the age of 3 and how it all ended. she lived with you or not. she basically

left the house, wandered everywhere, uh, came home, only to steal and feed food. here are the parents. you somehow looked for it, of course. yes, we were looking for it. we came to the police. we were looking for some options, then we were told. let's go to her psychiatric hospital. that's it, at the age of 9 she ended up in a psychiatric hospital and left, there were no improvements from there. it became even worse. she started throwing knives at me. we were already afraid to sleep, it was some kind of medicine there, they didn’t prescribe anything else. and at what age did she give birth for the first time. i am 19 years old, 19 years old 19 years old, and at that moment there was no wedding, no man. do you know him or not? you know with him, but we're not sure she's kind of pregnant. here with who lived, we will begin to understand a little later , probably, what happened in your family,

because we will ask questions not only to you, but also to your daughter, in the meantime, the kingdom of heaven to the flyers. but this summer there was an incident when a boy was found sleeping on the side of the road, it turns out, horror is a signal for the authorities, again, what has it got to do with it? yes, a bright signal on the side of the road, let's see, and then ask alexei, who is in our studio today, how did he make this video. i drove once again from work from that place, probably i already immediately noticed that the kid was lying, well, at first i was scared, of course, god forbid, he died there. well, this, well, would come up so i'll wake you up. at first i worry baby, baby. hey

where are you? are you lost where do you live? but he only looked to the side. well, this, well , it is clear, well, the confused one just woke up and immediately. well, i went to the side. yes , let's see him off, he's right away let's see the child off like this now, damn it, there lives a common fund ekaterina she was standing near the entrance and vitaly well, i stopped, vitaly went ahead. i i say it's your say, she says yes, and what is it? what happened is that i took out the phone , i thought i’d take another picture, and she just shouted to me. well, take a picture of it. from afar, that's all. i removed the phone. well, i'm like that, according to comrades who know her well, they did not always say. well, a drinker. yes, i think it's dangerous for children to leave

her with her. alexey, you found a child on the side of the road, when you shot this video on july 8, and posted it on the network, when why didn't you post it for 8 days? what was the purpose of posting it? firstly? at first i didn't know what family, uh, so i saw this boy, that he walked there with this woman, i found out at work from the guys, so this is friends who saw the video for me. he says , what are you saying, it’s not the first time they went, that is, the family is such that it was pulled out from under the wheel of the buses in oil. he was eating something there. car oil or something . it says, well, don’t be afraid, it says to spread some kind of reaction of the organs. was again. well, as far as you know. well, i kind of heard that they took him there for a few days to an orphanage, or she herself gave no out of guardianship. you are an eyewitness, it turns out that i am the only one in the investigative committee. they called me because i

posted everything about this video, and what they said in the investigative committee. they said don't shoot again, don't post anything they said, so that the committee doesn't shoot any video like that again. eh, once again name the place, please, where you were summoned by the investigative committee in yuzhnouralsk. i don't know the investigative committee of the south urals, probably, yes, what a charm? i am now addressing the head of the investigative committee of russia to you it is urgent to conduct an internal investigation and punish people who, instead of reacting and the child was alive, began to threaten the person who well , just focused the attention of the child on this. is that why you changed jobs? well , they also wrote on social networks, he says, well , we’ll see him anyway, he says, he often comes here. if it works on aggression, we'll see, we'll talk, why did he make this video, but i regarded it as a threat. just, well , correctly regarded absolutely as a threat, and

they will fire you. here i settled down another job, i'm working. now girls. they were taken away. right. yes. what are your plans for them? well, polina of course, we can't pick her up right now, because we have nowhere to collect her. and so pick up, of course, these are our grandchildren. in the sense there is nowhere to take the authorities, those very guardians may not approve the conditions, in some we turned to those very guardianship authorities. let's see. our family has been known since september 2020. she has been transferred to the category of a socially dangerous family. here is the case when vitalik was found on the side of the road, this is not an excuse to at least remove the children. we were ready

to leave on july 8th, but uh, our public most of the time. she was on katya’s side that the family should be helped, that she should be supported, and having once again reviewed all the resources of the family, they came to the conclusion that after all , she should be limited by parental rights. we were at her place at 2:00 o’clock 20 minutes, girls. i have experts. we were there on the day of the fire. yes, we looked at the products. they slept, they woke them up and alina vitalik had enough. well, healthy active joyful normal to yourself. well, and then daughter ekaterina basically. she lived at school, because grandmothers are easier to send to school. hold on, her condition is let's say not conducive to a normal test. grandmothers. no, grandmothers did not create living conditions in order to live, that

is, the conditions then allowed them to see how the child lives. we were just outside. katya allowed her grandmother to give custody of her children, because her grandmother had a criminal prosecution against her children. we are recording now. i already said grandma day for white two for red granny. she behaved in the same inadequate way, and not everything is all right with her grandmother, not everything is all right with her grandfather, respectively, in this family , normal good children could not grow up with grandparents, just like grandparents are like that. and how then tanya was there as a grandfather normally, grandparents, none of them have a relationship with katya , grandparents katya, uh, every time, uh, they extorted money. katya didn’t give them this money every time, that is, mom, grandparents take tanya to them. they say we will enter at school, but you give us this money. come on

, what time do i know. a criminal case, well, zhenya is enough of a different attitude of the authorities, again you know her, yes, who is this? this is the faith of the main ryabova , she now lives along the village street. but when we used to live right along krasnogvardeiskaya street, he was here nearby, she saw how katya grew up, how it all happened. everything is here. here, and she says that you extort money from him. yes, we are this time. it turns out. that's when this happened to the vitals on the twenty-seventh. yes on the 28th. i went there. i happen to find out that when i sued for, uh, disqualification. turns out i needed money. yes, but my thoughts were different. here from her children from

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name. in russia listen, people will lead us to the most important katran, he is not the joker, he is the king, he called himself that. i know he did it. what criminal prosecution do you have? what is she talking about in the criminal prosecution was not? it's just that i was underage, that's what

happened. so that my grandmother drank, well , she came to make a fuss and pissed me off. well, i beat her a little and my grandmother went to court, they didn’t give it, no matter how conditionally, then it turned out that such a situation lived, no matter how well, zhenya worked, alone. we bought only a house. here is labor 11 there. this woman from whom we bought had an engine buried there. well, that's all ilya, i have strength, it's everything with whom katya talked to her son, well, i couldn't catch up, i just took the pipe, let's say, so i won't catch up, i won't catch up well , it hurt a little, as if the police immediately, who beat you. mom wrote everything right away, as if they also went to court with a criminal case, as it were, well, there was just a reconciliation of the parties. that's all, well, this may be

the basis for not giving you tanya a similarity, you understand that, right? yes, yes me surprises another. they already knew about it a long time ago and knew that tanya lives with you . rebellion at what age does she live permanently from two years old from two years old from two years old? yes, and up to two years, where she lived with her mother, where in these homeless people and garbage dumps. yes, yes, and looked at it all. this sweetest woman, because she lived on the next street. yes, it's time to call ekaterina to the studio. let 's ask her what is really happening in her life and why the child died to remove both. and no, you are not tired of lying. you me forced to buy a house with maternity capital. i lived as a son. there you didn’t even drive up to me, you never said what you want to eat. and let's take it to ourselves, have you thought about me at least once, at least once. you look, in which house do you

congratulate me men in which house is called? yes, it doesn't fall apart. it was you who ruined it, but with your friends. she kicked me out on the street smileys of a child. and what do you do in the rain is a little baby. i have it on my hands. i just came from the hospital. she takes me out into the street, throws out my cards , she tore, everything tore can be torn. and what didn’t you do, it’s me, then i changed the card so you ’re pregnant, when my pension ended, you took me out of the house. understand how my pension ends. remember you all the time, say, be kind, sit down, please. we are now talking about your deceased child, and not about cards and not yours, but the childhood of small children ended up at home alone, i went to get a jacket from my neighbors to pick up my jacket, why should my children go? here you are walking. i going for a walk with the kids. why did your neighbors have your jacket, because my

broken machine burned down, the whole system was erased, as it were, right? and when it dried, you went to pick up the jacket. what time is it? 15 minutes it was like this in time hello hello, yes, 2 minutes. it's not 15. it's two minutes. no, it's 15 minutes until you get around. she poured me tea. i told her that i would now go and close the children. what does it mean to close the children, what does it mean to close the children of the children , i will lock up what i just have vital such a lover, well, no matter how sweet he was on exactly the spot, he liked to mischief constantly polina cleaned and carried out into the street and how would i start to close them in the house. because of this, i went and turned around to close the children. and we poured tea or vodka. no, i don't drink, just like i don't drink. i showed everything by zeros, and she asks.

traveled the same day. i showed everything by zero. i don't drink me at all, please, you have now admitted to us here in the studio of the federal channel that this is your practice. i know that you close the children. one was three years the second 7 months and leave to drink tea. that's right, no, i don't drink tea. i left with a lighter to drink tea to sit with them, children. no, i didn't go back. she hadn’t even returned yet, she was standing at the door, just when uncle vova, the neighbor knocked, that it was already smoking there. i say, it's most likely that it's flying with me and i ran and started and opened it. the door opened. the door is already full of smoke, and everything was on fire, upstairs. i ran further, grabbed it, opened the door, grabbed polina, because she was right next to the door in her walker. she started walking with me. i am her grabbed it, because i was her first near the door.

i found it, i look at polina, she is panting. well, what is this frenzy. that's it all began to lose consciousness. i took it out. and i screamed, vitalya, where are you? he says i'm a bed mom. i say, you cover yourself with blankets, wrap yourself up so as not to breathe. well, my mother is screaming at me too. mom feels, mommy what is being said. why did they take out only polina ? why didn't they take vitalik right away because i saw that polina began to become conscious. wait well, you are in the same room. you have one hand to the bed. that's right no. and how did the chair stand there, then my bed went, where is there two meters to the bed that vitalik shouted to you? are you talking to him? cover up with a blanket, what? oh, mommy mommy, what happened there? what's happened? he says i'm scared. i'm afraid. i say, son, be patient. i

'll be right back for you. why didn't you come back for him? who told you that i didn't come back to come in? i open the door, we are already everything is fire, ekaterina a. was already here. you know your diagnosis. yes, i know my diagnosis. and what i say to my wife. it's somehow a diagnosis that's hindering you live. no, we somehow feel it. no, i don't feel. i don't even feel this aggressiveness, i don't feel anything. what aggressiveness that everyone is slandering, as parents say, please. well, your parents said that you haven't lived at home since you were 9. tell you. why have i not lived at home since i was 9 years old. their girlfriends marina nastya was some kind of girlfriend of hers, especially when we strangled his brother, i

saw it all perfectly, how they drank. mom, can you imagine with another man, i come from school at the age of 7. she is with someone else painful. i say mom, what are you, she hit me? i turned around, just went to my grandmother. when i came to the investigative committee, i saw two pieces of paper, and the act of death was one act of death of smoke, and one piece of paper. i kind of managed to read that he drowned drowned. why, when he was knocked down with a hose, he tried along the wall, found his hoses with a fire hose knocked down the code you have such information because he tried to crawl along the wall all this time this information is because i talked to him all this time 'til the fry me popped out, and later, when they told at the scene of the fire what

had happened there. let's get a look. during the fire, i was at the neighbor's door, the neighbor knocked. we have smoke here. i say this, probably, most likely, i'm on fire again. i ran to the house, went to save the children, the children were locked up. i opened the lock here. i drove there, went in the door, pushed me away. polina was already near the threshold. pushed away the walker, went to vitaly to look for vitaly shouted, he answered me. i'm here mom, what's going on? i say now i will take polina, because she i’m already saying everything, well, i’m losing consciousness that i took out the peacock, filed it out the window, went a second time to go in to vitaly to save something, but i couldn’t get in, because there was a fire. we went to break the window. i tried to climb. well, i fell, here all this time. i

was standing near the window with vitaly, the soldier was talking. it takes me away. i tell him that the child is here, he climbed in, looked, and said that there was no one there. to be honest, if he had passed, we would have had his son, his son would now be bigger. strongly shouted to everyone, help me save vitalya please well all this video filmed. everyone laughed that i was drunk and all that . i loved very much and will love and have not gone anywhere. nothing could be saved, all that i now have left is

vitaliy a cigarette, which i personally bought myself for child allowances, nothing was left. you will have to start from scratch to live everything , to make money again, to take away the children, that if only, the main thing is to give them away. tell me please, but a criminal case was opened against you, moscow came and removed the entire criminal case from me, and initially they opened a criminal case against you brought to the committee said something like just take it, say that it was you who came up, and then the next day he called me again in the same state, he says, so come on, he says, it’s the local slightly told you that he tells you, come on , speaks to your son, says we will collect everything and says everything, he still died and nothing can be returned. i say, you hear. and what did they want to shove on your son, that he is arson yeah, that's all. and who do you blame for the death of your child in

the first place, it's my fault in the second turn, who's second in turn? i blame the fact that i constantly came to them , constantly said that i had a problem with you so well, guardianship did not figure it out with the wiring. and who else is to blame , the firefighters also did not save your child. yes, what they were not looking for, they did everything for a long time. for about an hour, uh, they developed these things of theirs at the moment when you were standing on the street talking to your son , someone was standing next to you. yes, who are sergei brukhanchikov and sergei yegorov, here are the neighbors, here are my neighbors of yours. yes. where was he at that moment? ministry of emergency situations a firefighter somewhere was not there yet in this time there was never was. it turns out that you arrived at the place of fires at the moment when it had just begun, the youngest girl came out. you could not save vitalik. yes, the ministry of emergency situations

arrived and unwound their hoses for an hour, but after 45 minutes. after you last called your parents. everything has already happened if you were recognized as incapacitated by your mother, if it followed from this that you cannot, in any way, cannot take care of three children. they would have been taken away from you and there would have been nothing. tell me eh here sits a man who was hounded on social networks because he filmed. how does your child sleep on the side of the road. this is what the guardianship authorities told you then after it became clear. they came with their eyes and blinked and that's it. remind me, please, what is the name of this lovely woman from the organs. if vera nikolaevna ryabova, after what we heard in this studio, will remain in her

position, that this is only one corpse by a miracle. what's the point she's a sick person? i wanted to kill this freak right there, but i surrounded by the police did not let me do anything. you came to her office. no, i'm not in the office, she flew right back and forth to the place, please, for reference, i must say that this woman in the office has had our correspondents three times over the past year for different reasons and occasions. i am not insulting you. i define you as a professional unfit scary person. it is criminal negligence what you have done. you are a man , you come running when there is a fire, you look at the fact that a child is burning there. i just interestingly, in a human way, in oneself, one should look at people, as one needs to look at oneself, somehow turn to look. my job is to

take care of worry. the whole country pays me for this. all the taxpayers. you have visited. with our film crew at the cemetery, i don’t like, of course, but it ’s to watch, but it seems to me that i need to be buried from the night. today , my son has 9 days of investigation, there is nothing to take these 9 days. i hope that my son will understand me, there he was a very loving son. you could have saved but didn't

there was very little to do when people were buried. at the same time, a lot of people were discussing a lot of people, and they wanted to kill everything in the world. why didn't you burn in the fire? he burned down in the fire, he left very early and helped me constantly around the house to clean the bed. he felt very strongly that he would soon leave. he said he sat on my knee and kissed me and hugged me. i say mom dad came to me, who is next to him. now buried says i'll be leaving soon. i do not believe him and say. are you talking such nonsense? i'm telling you, i'm telling the truth i had something to even think that he is now like that. link, forgive me, not buckwheat. you are

my sorry damn did not save. i should have killed you. there is no point in this murder. as far as i understand the americans, there is an illegal fsb, but they themselves do not know who, but we

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let's take her to the studio. hello , how did you meet ekaterina on january 27, when the tragedy occurred, we already began to find out how to find the mother of relatives , neighbors, and perhaps what impression she made on you. what impression can be made by a person who, uh, does not think about anything at all, in principle, i will explain. well , she can think about that, alexander gaevich. how to ask elementary money for a drink? of course we were translated, what is it for a drink. well, every day, yulia, what can be demanded, while she no longer had children, because they were seized. no. i don't drink, i can pass the tests. and now you understand this position, why are you deceiving you? no? well what a time katya well, you need medical help you're stressed out. we have a small one. well, what i do not know yet, who is the father of this

child. this is polina's dad, too. yeah, a new turn. why am i saying this? you will now understand if you look at the screen long after the fire, we banned evgenievna come together again, because we realized that we love each other and want to take the children back. i love them very very much in the future i am going to support her, i will not leave , i will not leave one, do not love. i always understand that i love sergey. a woman gives a heart to one person. polina, we will pick her up anyway, and tanya, older, the rain was picking up. regarding the child, write down your

daughter's surname . in the future, we want to sign. well, i don’t know, if she agrees, then first make an offer, then we’ll sign. do you agree for tease me, right? well, your fiance came to our studio sergey come here. sergei where were you on the day of the fire on the day of the fire i was at my mother's house on the third floor called ekaterina said that there was a fire, vitalik inside there the doors were open the main entrance was open. i wanted

to go through, but, unfortunately, there was a lot of fire there. that is, i could not physically get there, then, i went on. sergei was already there. he tried to break. he just did it with his hands, somewhere he cut himself, somewhere. i am there, respectively, here you made. even if you have a child together. what was stopping you? it was all this time to live with her and with the child, which made it difficult to establish from her own child, but i went on shifts, but in principle, i

always came as much as i could, whenever possible. well , we had, respectively, every person has, someone has enemies, someone has sworn enemies. yes, that is, it turns out that you doomed her a second time. although the first for the first time did not begin to live with her. well, there are many enemies, yes, and now she is pregnant, the second time, i i say she will have to give birth in prison. we will fight. no, the situation is extremely absurd only because not a single defense barrier worked, not the guardianship authorities, the investigative committee, the prosecutor's office, no one in this south uralsk, no one. no one has worked at all. they say that in order for evil to triumph good people or normal people. you just need to do nothing, and in yuzhno-uralsk they don’t just do nothing, but

they attack those who are trying to do good, and here, of course, something needs to be done about this. first turn. of course, something must be done. uh, the prosecutor's office and the investigating authorities in order to please not do it in order to show everyone what happens when people commit a crime, commit crimes for several years for several years. and that for this, finally, at least someone will bear real responsibility. you know, it's hard here, of course. and, in principle, express your opinion your attitude. this is a monstrous story , you really can’t blame katya. this is a deeply ill unfortunate person who can't decide, but of course, uh, there was a woman named vera, and this is a wolf, probably in sheep's clothing. she must somehow now live with this death, the death of this little boy, she must live with this. i really hope she brings responsibility, but i'd also like to. yes , if we weren’t in this mandiagnost

, then what would you start from. please tell me, i'm at the moment, when i'm sitting in court and i say guardianship, if i didn't have this diagnosis. and why are you then we are the same here? why did you do this to me? for what tell me, please, we wouldn't be here. come on, tell me, and someone else's they are according to you, when you drank, and not according to yours or not, it happened when this tangerine juice drank all not according to yours, this is a congenital pathology katya, therefore, bitch, this is acquired from me from two for your information, i have a medical background for years. i know what it is why are you silent? katya and katya now you need to either shut up or leave. no, i would like sergey to stay, please, such a husband is nearby. well,

what can i say such guardianship authorities, because that it was spitting, but the fate of the child. nightmare you can’t bring children to the wrong girl who lived with you for seven years, the wrong one, which is now impossible for 7 months, because you are not able to cope with upbringing in the same way as your daughter, which was amazingly proved by her example. she is a child. my daughter, i will not give her to anyone. mom, suddenly remembered that she wants to educate her. how old was she, when you took her for 3 months, we immediately realized that this was our child. how did it happen that she was taken away from you with a young man who drank returned and the house is a mess, because he made a mess. he's kicking out. he still comes and kicks you out. he still comes and the child lived in this mud. yes, and you are 14 to 23. how many men? well, i didn’t know about it. i had one day off on sunday. i worked