broadcast big game ended the visit of the president of the people's republic of china this morning he returned to beijing after what everyone believes in moscow in beijing and even washington was very productive and surrender. here is what russian president vladimir putin had to say about this. dear friends, the progress made in bilateral relations over the past decade is impressive. this an example of how world powers should interact. permanent members of the security council, he bears special responsibility for maintaining stability and security on the planet. and here is what he said

about the results of the visit of the chairman. please take care that what causes satisfaction in moscow and in beijing, let's say delicately, was not fully approved by the washington overtaking. let's hear the official opinion of the biden administration. when they join forces, they put pressure on the united states and on our influence around the world, when they unite there is a counteraction to what we call the rules-based international order. i know it

sounds a little weird, but it's the point. it is the rule of law and the underlying principles of the un charter that all countries must follow. they oppose him. they would like to change the rules of the game, and they see each other as a useful ally of a useful friend. that's what they do, essentially. they are trying to use each other to challenge the leadership of the us and the west especially in europe and around the world. alexander lukin is an outstanding expert on china by region. so i'm interested in your opinion on the statement of the admiral karg on the one hand. he said that russia china they want to uh deny international law, those rules, apparently he had in mind some universally recognized rules by which international systems have long been functioning. and on the other hand , literally in the same statement. he says

they have actually challenged american leadership, and they are aware that there is something he put forward and in general international law, which guarantees american leadership and which equates resistance to american leadership, but to a violation of international law, what do you think? well, uh, actually. here mr. kirby, he very succinctly expressed the basis of american foreign policy ideology, er, according to which there is a certain order based on certain rules based on certain rules. well, he attracted from here for a red word, but in fact it means the rules that, uh, well , carry out in life, so to speak, washington allies, and here is the united states is the guarantor of these rules.

that is, as if legitimacy is possible only with the leadership of the united states if there is no leadership of the united states, then the world is generally collapsing, everything goes wrong there, not as it should. according to the american point of view, therefore , only normal people who look at this reasoning with hand, but those from within the american. logs, they contradict here. eh, they don't see any. it seems to me that something else is interesting. uh, now is the time for complaints, everyone complains that everything is somehow goes wrong. and so. uh, that's mr. kirby, he's also complaining that uh china and the racist are getting closer and plotting something against american behemonia, but uh , what are you complaining about, right? you yourself are doing everything to bring them closer, but do at least something so that this does not happen. yes, they mean they continue to put pressure on

this and on the other side, continues the policy of containing russia and china, and at the same time they are surprised and complain that they are actually getting closer. you know, i remembered how many, many years ago. i am in the same company in moscow, even before i left the soviet union, we were discussing, uh, anti-semitism in the soviet union, and uh, the question was raised about how many jews there are in the institute for the world economics of international relations. i said, well, why are you surprised, these are the most capable people, there and one of the guests, who later became vice-president of the soviet union gennady yanaev, said, well, you are a brother, a racist. hmm well, how can you say? well, how can you say that the most capable people in the institute are jews, i would say very simply, because if they were not jews, then they

would go to the central committee for international journalism. first you push their privileged gta's and then you're surprised there's too many of them so absolutely the same thing actually puts pressure on russia and china uh, working closely together is not that they don't have their own reasons to work closely together, but it 's called here this approach, and which are being demonstrated today, the united states in fact. e russia china and if you want to it's the jews who make them. here are such suspicious countries as countries of the second categories and when they start to raise their heads it causes outrage. well, by jews, you mean, no matter how privileged part of society, somehow oppressed part of the international community , part of society, which, uh, is in a certain

sense of the second class and has long known its place. and this encourages them to be different. uh, means working on how to avoid it. and naturally. uh, because you correctly said that there is between russia and china and the reason to get closer and trade normally as neighbors and without any usa. strengthen relations, but the position of the united states this process of significance emulates me, it seems to me, well, you say, uh , you have been studying china for many years watching russian-american relations. here in my opinion. i'm far from being chinese in my opinion. it seemed to me that this meeting was significant and advanced. uh, russian -chinese relations, but, if not fundamentally, but still to some new level from your point of view, what happened, but it is certainly significant although formally.

it's just another meeting. and it could be to say that formally nothing special is happening, because, well , we have had annual visits since the nineties, and the chinese leader has come to us and our leader has come to china and this is just another visit, but not during the pandemic. it was somewhat postponed there, and the meetings were held in an online format, but in fact, in the current situation, the international fact is that the leader of china is again after an earlier re-election this time. eh, how did he do it? this is the first time in the thirteenth year, when he had just come to power, he chose russia as the first country his visit, and the level of negotiations, the level of trust meeting there one-on-one with putin , the number of documents and signed 14 documents itself on cooperation. in a variety of areas. all this shows that china

wants to show that despite all these new events and new situations, international, and russia remains the most important chinese partner. and china intends, in spite of any american pressure or pressure there. e european yes is going to develop these relations. uh, how it used to be and maybe even faster pace, that is china uh, let's just say he does not want to provoke. the united states, he does not want to run into secondary sanctions on the day. china is showing a willingness to resist american pressure and treat russia as a very important partner , because of course, well, geopolitical, er, russia is the most important partner for china. uh, russia is the same

as china, it is said, by the way, in a local statement, which was signed following the results of the negotiations. and russia, like china , stands for a multipolar world. uh or supports the chinese idea of ​​​​a community with a common destiny, humanity, which sidepin put forward and the meaning of both will be assimilated to the fact that the world should be based on cooperation and there should not be one hegemot and, uh, the only problem for china's development to move forward let's say chinese economy, well, except there are various internal objective problems. of course. e is the position of the united states, which is the policy of the united states, which , from the chinese point of view, is trying to contain this growth is introduced by various sanctions and other measures. yes, starting with trump there, who started the war, and trade against china, russia

is geopolitically the most important partner. uh, in this, so to speak, confrontation, of course, and therefore china is supported by russia uh, in general, based on their own interests. yes, he understands that if russia somehow greatly weakens under pressure from the same west , then he will be left alone, the united states, and it will be easier for him to cope with him. uh refers to russia as a partner not of intimacy, not out of mercy, but because it answers china 's fundamental strategic interest, and of course, of course, there are some traditional feelings of friendship, and in some way, and the chinese people have some memories of friendship, the fifties and the older generation and so on. but the main thing, you know, as dean of the prime minister of england correctly said. yes, the main thing is interesting. yes,

britain does not, but constantly to friends, if so permanent there is so eternal interest. yes, it is china's interests that now feel the same. and this is very good for russia and they coincide for objective reasons, because the vision in principle, we have a single future e world with china recently, we talked with some. uh, well, at a conference with some chinese colleagues, one of them said that we have a common goal, uh, in creating. here e or changes in the existing world order. maybe we sometimes have different methods. here , but that's not the point. the main thing is that we have a common goal. yes, therefore, no matter what problems there are between russia and china, or different visions of some issues, in any case

, the problem is china, the united states is much more in agreement. and ruslan pukhov, a leading military expert, i wanted i would like to ask, well, what is the main point in the struggle that the scattered ukraine is waging and, uh, we, of course, have a lot of strategic disagreements about security issues, but it seems to me that more and more, in general, but .