[000:00:00;00] the main meaning of the struggle that russia is leading into in ukraine, and we, of course, have many strategic disagreements about security issues, but it seems to me that more and more, in general, and the root cause of this struggle is russophobia russophobia in ukraine and hierusophobia in western europe and not only in western europe, i must say in general in europe it seems to me that this has already reached the level with russophobia, when we can say that rosophobia today is a moral equivalent. e anti-semitism. and this, of course, not like during the holocaust, when they propose to teach genocide and kill all russians. come on, you look at the attitude towards russia , discrimination against russians. well, in general,

involuntarily. there is a feeling that this is no longer just a strategy about the security of economic interests. and about this, as it were, the very foundation, as the russian people see it. here let's see pro some interesting comparisons

between today and yesterday. there is no acting, there are no actors. these are all genuine footage. and this, of course, is such a dramatic vision of history, but personally, it seems to me, in general enough, reflecting reality. you know dmitry. you have your own life experience in america, and so we talked, so to speak, so to speak, so notorious about the jewish question. it has to do with your background. i'm from a russian-tatar family. i see it differently. i see it as a struggle, and for the sovereignty of russia

i was recently in tatarstan and said, although they don’t speak the otta language as a whole, a number of my tribesmen, as it were, he and they told me, you know, all these nationalists who are trying to split our federation they are not they understand that we tatars are very comfortable in the russian federation, that we do not feel ourselves. here people of the second class. we are the same full-fledged bearers of russian statehood, yes, and this is our state, just like the state of russians. yes, we do not see any contradiction in this. it seems to me that any comparison. e historical lame. but the fact that we were not quite sovereign to launch a special military operation. what are we, as it were, putting together in front of the west? you know, here are the concessions, how some natives add up some gifts yes and no got nothing in return but a pat. so, if we talk now about the visit of the chinese leader, here i am. while you were talking. with

a professional, i recalled something else, that we had different attitudes towards china. well, there we were afraid of the chinese threat. yes, uh, the chinese treat us differently . we often write on the internet that, on chinese maps, the russian far east is painted over. i recently caught on the internet such a phrase of one chinese word, but now that russia has shown that the army is not quite effective. it is necessary to quickly squeeze out the russians, vladivostok until russia joins nato. all this is beautiful and the words of different people. however , as they say in football, the score is on the scoreboard. here in the middle of the first visit. yes, i came to our country, knowing that the collective west, led by the united states, made it clear that everyone who supports the russians will have to pay a high price for this. however, he and his people are ready to pay this price. and i think the most important outcome, but this historic visit, which was. maybe he

indeed, this is not the part that we see the surface part of the iceberg, there must have been some negotiations, including those that were not announced publicly and not only those documents that were signed, there must have been some then an agreement, such as the coordination of efforts in the field of military security in the field of military-technical cooperation. it is quite possible that in two directions not only as it has been in ours for a long time. that is why admiral kirby is so nervous because the american principle - this is the principle of the soviet political officer do not do it like me. and do as i say. yes, but we, uh, really, have a mutually beneficial cooperation, although in a number of categories, of course, uh, i agree with everything that you said that you said what i say, in my opinion, one can’t does not rule out the other. of course there are problems with sovereignty. there is, of course, desire. for russia to restore its sovereignty. there is,

of course, the unwillingness of the united states to guarantee russia's sovereignty. all this is true, but you do not from my point of view, you can explain the issue of sovereignty, and the persecution to which russian athletes are subjected against whom there is already outright discrimination, and you cannot explain the frequent arrogant mockery. uh, the question of how russians are forbidden to learn their language in ukraine you cannot explain the behavior of european and american museums that claim that famous works of art are from russia that now, it turns out, they are works they are russian, and ukrainian you cannot explain by sovereignty, when it’s just from ordinary russian people living in europe, the united states well, in general, there are more such cases of outright mockery in europe

and when they are required to publicly repent, to condemn not only putin , not only the russian, political system . well, here, in general, they just apologized for their splendor. although they had nothing to do with the war in ukraine. if this is not russophobia, then i do not know what it is, you know russophobia certainly exists. it has probably existed since time immemorial. a peter i when russia escaped, so to speak, and let's call it that from this asian family, and clearly declared its interests in europe by defeating sweden. yes, now there are few who are aware that the whole of civilized europe , in fact, believed that peter i was such tsar darius, and those who inherited from gustov adolf yes the great military figure of the thirty years' war, his grandson kal-12. this is such alexander the great, now he will come, the belly of this darius is arguing, and

in fact, in russia, he will roll away again there its bear corner. but it happened the other way around , yes, as if yes, and he defeated this alexander of macedon, by the way, a very talented militarily man, therefore, since then , we, as it were, have not been loved for ours. uh, for ensuring that large long distances are large in population. however, you know in my opinion. this is russophobia, let's say we take france yes, in general, the population of france has a positive attitude towards us, as i said, our president of the elite, especially the liberal intelligentsia, especially the media here they compete in this this russophobia. if you take the number of population. yes, then the global south at times, as it were, covers the lamb, uh, the collective west even if we add south korea there and if we add japan there, these people treat quite well, you know, in germany , in fact, germany not everyone hated

the jews and e in repression against the jews. they had a size relatively small population and jews, or in germany for centuries, and in general they were treated very well , quite tolerant especially by the standards then to europe, but then everything changed quickly. so, it seems to me that yes , indeed, uh, there were very good relations with the russians in europe and in america, especially in europe. well, in general, those people who left tsarist russia and the soviet union, especially those who were considered political emigrants , met them, if not warmly, then at least normally and there was no special discrimination against them, eh, but here when you look at people who have recently left russia and many of them do not underwent a special operation. they

suddenly encountered a great dislike for themselves, bordering on hatred precisely because they are russian and they had to constantly prove themselves. and what no, they can be russians, but they are good russians, but even when they began to prove that they are good russians and, as it were, share european values. in general, fundamental attitudes towards them have not changed very much, but i want to ask you, often in a different way. please tell us about these british plans to put on their tanks, and warheads from tak called united wound. you know most tanks. uh, in addition to shells for combating personnel. uh, they should have shells in their ammunition load to fight other tanks, which are largely protected, especially if they have dynamic protection such small cubes, yes, with explosives that allow the tank to defend itself against e anti-tank weapons, there are active protection complexes, which

throw out some kind of mixture there, and so that the laser beam leaves like this in order to be guaranteed to hit the tank, but in this anti-tank ammunition must be very uh, a solid core is usually on the latest generation of ammunition, and they are either tungsten or combined uranium. it has now been proven that after the use of this kind, and funds during the war in the balkans. yes, when uh, to beat serbian armored vehicles, the americans and their allies used it, and then in iraq, and when uh comes into contact with the armor with the armored part of the target, this uranium tip is sprayed. that is, in itself it is not dangerous, not for the crew, but when it happens its spraying, it enters the external environment in a significant amount , pollution occurs, and in particular

, a surge in cancer diseases is ascertained, so this is certainly a thing, but let's just say, a negative one. we also have similar developments. right now we hear such timid questions. why is it supplied? maybe it's not so good. here are the statistics on cancer . especially already in two places, and on the beams and in iraq. now, if we put someone in a similar situation. howl stood absolutely to the skies, yes, and it would be another opportunity to increase the degree of russophobia. and now we hear just some modest such expressions of concern by an extremely narrow circle of experts. this is an interesting point, as if in addition to the russian circle of experts. there is president putin, who seems to have a very serious concern and said that russia might have to, if such weapons arrive in ukraine, then rakhim will have to take appropriate measures, without specifying

what these measures would be in practice. well, let's listen to what sergey lavrov said about these ammunition. this is a step towards a further increase in escalation, and a serious increase in a qualitative increase in escalation, and the statement of some western representatives that there is