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profitable business account solutions and other profitable promotions for experienced entrepreneurs. uralsib for business perspectives where you are on the air is a big game , we continue our conversation with professor jeffrey sachs. another thing that i find hard to understand about the biden administration's approach to russia is that the administration , when the trump administration announced that the main challenge for the united states is not russia but china and in general, i think this is in many ways reality, but from here, as if it follows logically that ah, the united states

should not welcome the strategic rapprochement, but moscow and beijing but uh american actions, especially when hitting, but they are, in general, objectively a. and, if you like, they encouraged russia to seek mutual rapprochement. well, why don't they see this in the administration of the war or see it? they don't consider it significant. well, this is another mystery. this is another mistake. i have another position that is not very popular in the us personally. i don’t think that china is a threat to the united states, and i don’t think that china is a threat to the world, but

this approach is not supported in the us today, because the us is divorced. it’s just that i would say some kind of paranoia about economic success in china, and about eight years ago, somewhere in the fifteenth year, the united states decided that china must be contained in the same way that the soviet union had to be contained at one time . so somewhere in in 1915 , the cold war against china began, the tone of the usa the rogue china has changed dramatically we remember very well that trump unilaterally imposed very harsh tariffs on china uh, the rhetoric has changed, but bidenteds takes an even more anti-chinese position on a number of issues and now

an attempt is being made to cut off the supply of all high technologies to china, while it is openly said that this is done in order to slow down the chinese economy, naturally, because of this, china will get even closer. so you are absolutely correct. raise the question it is quite obvious that both in washington and brussels and in berlin people do not understand what is happening today in moscow and beijing in the rest of the world, because i travel a lot in developing countries almost non-stop, i can say that now in latin america in southeast asia and in africa in all these regions of the country it is not at all like washington brussels

washington is very, naive and dangerous position. i can’t answer your questions dmitry i just think that this is a mistake from beginning to end, that it is a calculation that now he will rally the whole world against china and russia, but how can you seriously talk about it, and because of this, the conflict in ukraine only flares up is becoming even more dangerous now. they only talk about ukraine and china, and i think this is a very dangerous situation. in moscow, many are wondering. how inevitable is such a policy on the part of the united states in this context. e mention the upcoming presidential election campaign and what the leading republican candidates are. and trump desantes,

that they both talked about some other approach to russia and that ukraine, well, for them you were no longer the organizing center of american international politics. do you think that the arrival of this kind of white house republicans, firstly, is real. a? secondly, that he really could significantly change the american approach to russia to the world. i believe it is very important to say from the outset that the american people of the american people advocate militarism with different views. and this is even despite the fact that they

are told every day in the media that the united states should pursue just such a foreign policy, but there are a lot of people among americans. society does not agree with this, it is largely split divided, there are different views and even within the republican party. how wonderful you are. you know there are different opinions. there are conservatives have a description. and in this case, i would say that their position looks much more realistic and much more accurately reflects american interests and in this sense their approach is not so aggressive, but the republican party is divided, and the democratic party does what biden says, and i it's disappointing, frankly, this state of affairs, but what is, that

is, the democrats. they just do everything president's directives no alternative points of view in the party are welcomed so that it seems to me that americans are ordinary americans. they just understand what is really happening and no one wants a third world war. nobody wants further escalation. nobody wants a confrontation with china the initiative is not from below, all these decisions are pushed from above. and these are bad dangerous decisions of this war. could have been avoided in december 21. there was such an opportunity when president putin put forward his proposals. predicted offered to be from nato expansion, if the biden administration, then went to negotiations, then war. it could have been avoided that way. this is not

a people's war. she does not enjoy popular support. i believe that this war was unleashed because of the wrong decisions made. at the very top. we are in katanga where we are and russia has to deal with the administration that runs america from washington and i have a question that so many in russia have is in the white house while in congress the mood that you only what they wrote, including the expense among the republicans, but is there any possibility to look for a diplomatic solution or the reality is that everything should be decided on the battlefield and there is practically no negotiation path, what do you think? you know, my personal position

is that it is not the western world that could play a very important role in this situation. it seems to me that what chairman xi jinping will do now. china comes out with a very balanced position, china says that the necessary peace agreements that take into account the interests of both parties. that is , in fact, we are talking about stopping the expansion of nato, respecting the interests of russia and finding some kind of peaceful solution, such a reasonable approach. it could actually play a very important role if china, india , brazil, south africa, and a number of other countries really supported such an initiative. personally, it seems to me that this could have very serious consequences. it may sound a little strange, but

the west no longer rules the whole world, and we have seen how it went. uh, sitting big g20 under the chairmanship of india and india certainly believes that it is necessary to move towards peace through negotiations. china supports the same approach president lula in brazil shares the same view. i think that now not only china a and india , the chairman of the g20 will talk about the same, brazil will support this initiative, moreover, president bow, just in the coming week, will visit china and other leaders.