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Understanding 9/11tv Vremya pokazhet 1TV March 28, 2023 3:15pm-3:28pm MSK
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wash the night of chaos tens of thousands of protesters took to the streets of tel aviv they seized the main highway and shouted that there should be no dictatorship in israel. demonstrators yelling into loudspeaker blocking traffic and setting cars on fire police used water cannons. daily protests also erupted in jerusalem and near prime minister netanyahu's home. trade unions have gone on strike at the closed university of israel, another massive demonstration will take place this afternoon in front of
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parliament. did you notice that, unlike, let's say, the protests in georgia some, where there are any georgian flags a little bit, but there are some european union american ukrainian ones, and here pay attention to 95% of the flags. these are israeli flags. clearly the only thing is there? what other flags flicker in e, means with among others. these are rainbow flags, so we can assume that these speeches are not just because people are concerned about judicial reforms. apparently they associate some so to speak and i don’t know ideological elements with this judicial reform with the adoption, respectively, of a new approach or not. let's. now let's talk to uh, political scientist, doctor of political science with an expert in international relations. we have security by simon sypis. he comes directly to us from tel aviv. simon hello, hello. thank you very much for being part of our broadcast. please tell us, stand by, what
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is happening in israel now , are the protests continuing, and they are asking, because the example of israel postponed the adoption of the law on judicial reform, did not cancel it, but postponed it. at least it affected it so to speak, uh impressed the protesters, please? at the moment, at the moment, the protests have subsided, this is not what it was, of course, yesterday or the day before yesterday, that is, the day before yesterday, indeed the whole country voted buzova at the moment the protests. now, if there was to be a general national strike today. it was canceled at the last minute last night. uh, but the split continues. uh, the internal political split continues split in the coalition. uh, the split in the likut park, who is the leader, which is this is it, neo is there now internal split, but protests for the moment. at this stage, they have subsided, however, both camps. they have not yet agreed and have not come to
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any content. and let's get a little more detailed. and about the camps, it is clear that this is a very strong simplification. we are the creator of it go, and you said about the internal political split. uh, there's a split, elite and so on. can i say i read a lot? so to speak on this topic, i don’t know how fair it is, so to speak. i now have an idea, but the split is, of course, no purely political split, both generational and ideologically, within israel itself within israeli society. namely, why i paid attention to these rainbow flags, because there are, well, conditionally repeats the strong, simplification of the conditionally progressive part of israeli society, to which these flags are close, which come out with them. and there is such a purely conservative part, which is these flags. naturally not accepted. actually it was this purely conservative part that tried to accept or drag it through, how to say? i don't know, a here is the very judicial reform. and that's about it.
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in part yes, in part you are right, the fact is that the rainbow flags that you saw are opponents of the judiciary, this performance in the city, tel aviv in the city of jerusalem, much more conservative residents have a presence and there, of course, rainbow flags are rare. however. i would like to explain what is the root of the problem. uh, the current current judicial reform. this is, uh, the problem that plagued state israel in its early days. the thing is, that the state of israel does not have a constitution, unlike other states. such as, for example, the united states or your country, the russian federation, where there is a constitution , there is a constitutional court that stands guard over the constitution and protects it from encroachment , already under this, under the constitution, there is a constitutional court. under court. the next power is the government. we don't have a constitution. that is, we have. uh, the court
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that is called the high court of justice is rich, it stands above the government. what's this the government is trying to make it downgrade. uh, this fidelity to the authorities of his status and make him purely recommendatory to such, uh, advisory bodies, to which we are naturally the government. uh, maybe not listen, most likely will not listen. thus. our government is becoming the highest. ah, the branches of her power. that is, the dictatorship of power will begin from the word dictatorship. and that's exactly what it is. this is what revolts society. e in israel and another important point is this. uh, people don't take to the streets for reforms, per se, because it is possible that some kind of reform needs to be carried out and the powers of the high court reviewed. our people are outraged. and by the way this reform is being dragged through, we have the vote of france true. yes, look here. pay attention. we have already had
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elections four times in a row in a very short period of 4 years, that is, elections after elections. this is a protracted crisis further, the government that has now come to power. he is at most 3 months in 3 months. he started uh, a lawmaking marathon such lawmaking, firstly, voting takes place at night uh, voting is going on. e. on the eve of the holidays, half of the cabinet of ministers is missing absurd laws. i understand. and please, just be very brief. answer please. that's very interesting. true, it is worthy of a separate completely from a full-fledged discussion. well, that is, there is no time, but what then is the very highest court of justice based on, if the chance was rightly noticed in israel or there is no constitution, but it should have some letter. uh, so to speak, the law, what the court is guided by makes its decisions and giving advice to the government. what are the fundamental laws? it is precisely this
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. yes it is busy or pan. these are really two camps of people, uh, bibists position themselves as high intellectuals and coordinate around this nayhu, they like everything that he does against antibists. he does not want to consider themselves simpler people more practical and they don't like everything he does, so he started judicial reform today. yes, who will not, it will still look. that's right, but at the same time, you correctly noticed not everyone with flags, they do not deny israel that they are brothers to each other. it's just that they are here, who loves not who does not love
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and in relation to russia, in relation to ukraine, in relations. this history will not have an effect, because the anti-beast position is essentially the same to these positions, in fact, by the murder, there is, so to speak, a consensus. if this not worthy, in this context. i 'm only interested in discussion, then let's not. but if you think that it’s worthy quickly, it seems to me that there are still some general patterns, everywhere, even in those countries that have been talking about democracy for long centuries and strengthen the institution of democracy. we are now seeing that the state is attacking many democratic rights and this phenomenon in various countries and france with its pension reform and israel with this rapid judicial reform. he was rightly spoken of cargo different behavior. only the state has. here, oh, i'm talking about, some states hear these protests and retreat, like in israel or georgia and some go to the breach, as it
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continues now. this one in france. that's it . i can rightly agree with you. you are right it has some. the connection with the fact that our state is also on this path, and we see that our society somehow agrees with this with the tightening of a variety of norms of rules. well i want to remind you 2001 from the united states of america patriots, where society, of course, generally just uh generally in a regime that we are familiar with unanimously supported. uh, so to speak , the curtailment of a number of democratic freedoms and rights for the sake of security. so it was , so to speak, declared somehow it was done. well, today the protests in israel are really subsiding , among other things, because a number of trade unions actively participating in these protests are suspending their activity, but they are suspending it, because, and they are reacting to the reaction of the authorities, the authorities have heard. he partially said, but we still sell, but later, so let's see
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therefore, it cannot be ruled out that new stages of the activation of the protest movement. in case of further attempts to change the legal. the situation in israel will occur, but for ukrainian rice, how it will affect this in my opinion does not mean the tension of the civil war in israel uh necessarily. and secondly , you know about the rainbow flags, if you look at the picture, panoramic, yes, we see that it is quite a bit interesting here, then how the western press submits. she picks up those flags. and you see , they are so used to driving their viewers into a certain context even here, when they talk about the protests. you know, you need to take these three flags, especially since it is located there, and you get the feeling, and the quite definite approaches of the protesters protesting these protest actions are understandable, but in general, you know, of course, this is your israeli context, but after all, people can express dissatisfaction in different ways, they can be in the kitchens, or they can be burning fires like this, therefore
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in general, since the world is clearly entering a period of very turbulent redrawing of the world map, politicians are discussing. everywhere, israel would have a weighty sense in the written western context , closely following the mood in the united states of america in europe and the protests in europe, the split public that is in the us they will certainly affect the whole world and israel too, that is, this is a manifestation. yes, in general, the global trend with the manifestation of the general good word of turbulence. and now let's move on. actually on how to say, i really don’t know on the epicenter is now, but not that it's not on the reason, but on the epicenter, so to speak, e turbulence on the formal. at least yes ukraine is not ukrainian. the crisis in ukraine continues its struggle. fight with faith that's the day that's like this. well , probably wrong, he says, they were afraid, and so to speak, the monks and parishioners of the pechersk lavra were waiting for e. he's coming. today, as i understand it, at the direction of zelensky , the priests of the canonical ukrainian
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orthodox church must leave the building for the monastery, and this is undoubtedly a tragic day in the history of modern ukraine and here on this topic, so a question was asked about it in the stream of the people's popular front. it excites interests. let's just listen to the questions. we all know what a nightmare is now happening with the ukrainian orthodox churches and the priests are being expelled and they are called enemies yesterday was the last service, the orthodox sunday church. lavra e. what do you think will happen to lavra next?
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