orthodox churches and priests are driven out and called enemies yesterday was the last service of the orthodox sunday church. lavra e. what do you think will happen to lavra next? can we help her somehow? we heard a question. yes answer. let's try to give more in this studio, by the way, we saw the picture. yes, how many thousands of believers there came in kiev to the czech lavra for the last sunday service for the last prayer before the knowledge of the monks. well, even here, the authorities, so to speak, tried to humiliate people and let them through only by passport. well here's a trifle of course, such a small dirty trick, but, but very characteristic. i beg you. here. answer the question. that is a woman. what will be glory can we see how she says we are orthodox. she must be this or her , leave me alone. a tragic day in the history of ukraine is, of course, a tragic day in the history of orthodoxy. on the whole, it is clear that kiev's

pechora lavra is a shrine for all orthodox for russians. uh, and this is not only limited to kiev laurels, the same thing is now being done by the authorities about the pochaev lavra in western ukraine, that is capture. shrines. he's in full swing. why do you understand? yes? even this one was chosen. uh, on the eve of easter, when everyone goes to pray, that is, on the eve of the great orthodox holidays, they rush to seize this church and hand it over to the schismatic. no one in ukraine hides the ultimate goal. eh, this seizure of orthodox shrines is not to be conveyed to the orthodox church in a canonical way. ukraine is called headphones. yes, uh, what happens next is up to us of course. that is. uh, if uh hmm free this one will come back orthodoxy there they captured the lavra, they already scolded the lavra, they scolded the relics, the saints will remember them, how

the nazis blew up, and most importantly the cathedral of the assumption cathedral. kiev pechersk lavra, that is, all this was all this was being revived. as a result of orthodoxy, the monks returned. i really hope that a better sooner than later will return all this back, but it will depend exactly. from us from our position it is clear and to help you. well, you know, it seems to me that this is what will happen next. this seizure and, in fact, the kiev-petchersk lavra itself - this will become a symbol a symbol of division. and it will continue to be used. yes, this day is significant for them, it is significant for us, sadly. for them, it is significant. they will attribute it to you. it's like one of the victories, but quite serious. and let it be on the ideological front, if they think so, although for me, of course, it's uh above uh, more, but nonetheless. well, you know, of course, it's scary. this is what i mean for them

kiev authorities. for some reason, everything comes down to specific pieces of paper and specific actions against specific people, after all. well, how? well, how can you, but take and scold. uh, the faith of the man of mankind. this is ah. it needs to be crossed over. remember, he came , so yes, and together with uh zelensky they went just, uh, in my opinion, to the lavra. yes, in mikhailovsk it looked rather strange, yes, then another question arose. and which of them is orthodox? yes, that is, people were already discussing it then. yes, maybe they said so , let's deal with this too. this is an important issue , sort it out, by the way, pay attention, because it was a report about the fact that means what is happening there. this is a very interesting point. for how long, everything that concerns ukraine is banned, but it’s not possible to discuss anything about washington. explosions will be appointed on the nord stream. but

let's discuss this here, in general, why not. it seems to be so harmless. subject just know that here i saw this report is a report. uh, i can now wait in our audience from it there, of course, yes there, of course, this the problem is raised the rarest case for the un, that is problems, they do not sweep it away, but raise it yes , but also pay attention to the wording. let's listen to the snippets. the un human rights office has documented searches conducted by the sbu as a security measure in several monasteries, offices, educational institutions and other facilities belonging to the ukrainian orthodox church in kyiv rivne zhytomyr ivano-frankivsk chernivtsi in dnepropetrovsk khmelnytsky cherkasy volyn kherson ternopil poltava and transcarpathian regions management concerned that state action against the upc could lead to discrimination ; the office also calls for all criminal suspects to have the right

to a fair trial. well , at first everything is fine. everything is written correctly, but the administration is restless in that the state's action against the opts may or may not lead to discrimination , that is, there are some suspicions that, uh, if the theory continues like this after some time. baby it's possible that someone will be discriminated against, but of course, but at the same time, it is important to understand that 2 weeks before this powerful outpouring, so to speak. the american representative, the representative of the american embassy, ​​who deals with religious affairs, met with metropolitan onufry, and carefully wrote down everything, and only after that he, so to speak, brought it up for discussion. this also needs to be understood, that is, it’s still a game not at your gate, but that’s all, but anyway, this energy depends on the un universe , anyway, this is an american goal game, as for the laurels, well, it won’t transfer it. e

in the hrc, in fact, there is another horror of the situation, because the state takes it away like the twenties not in the sixties, therefore there is a statement by the minister of culture that the state of ukraine simply returns its property. it will be a museum, as they look, and the patient has a rule of hourly rent for the time of worship permitted by the ministry of culture and the museum, that is, it is a monk that in the house becomes very important. it seems to me that the paper was signed by the georgian patriarch or i, who is 90 years old and who, apparently due to age, are much bolder than the pope, who runs like this between the drops, so that the effect does not offend these, not upset. so, he stated absolutely clearly addressed to the patriarch of constantinople bartholomew that mr. bartholomew dear unconditionally.

this is all being done with your name and for the name of your church, therefore it is you who must stop accusing the church that it is moscow is not fair, because metropolitan well free said that this church is not russian, this is a direct quote and uh- huh or and believers have different positions. but this not significant. again, quotes from eliya, so we need to stop beating believers bartholomew press to intervene and now a ball of this size has landed on the lantern. well, that is, you are your own now, but bartholomew must intervene, because it's one thing when he comes to lithuania and hugs someone in lithuania, and another thing when they beat believers in ukraine and lavra in his name - this is not the only this is the case, well, it just started, the mechanism that the state tried to do, but finished. we know everything here.

you are yourself. argue now rot all the way bye. i said, so, uh, this is happening now in lensky's studio for something, not a believer. he launched here launched him, nevertheless, poroshenko came with sayings. i understand, but with a certificate and a mimic, he ran galloping, which means poroshenko came to kiev, it was he who came out on his banners, the army. mova, ira vira - that's right, the picture was brought to ukraine by thomas, but he did not bring scuffle to the church. and now we see that it will be bloodshed. so when you bring thomas if you don't a complete idiot, but poroshenko is still not a complete idiot. of course, you understand that you are starting a split with this. you start this war. you start with this beating, you stand, so to speak, on the verge of a big bloodshed. and you brought her this filthy reference. so, here it is for dryers. you must understand that

this is exactly what you brought your country and i ask, of course, this was understood by the smooth share. here we are now, of course. in my opinion, it is quite obvious that we are not dealing with a religious dispute. it's so much more than religious dispute, if it was about confessional discussions of some kind, well, ukraine it is, as it were, formally, probably, considers itself a multi-confessional country. kato does not close them there either. no one closes the temples , no one closes the mosques, that the russian orthodox church went the wrong way, create another orthodox church in its way. well, build your temples. build your temples, as the muslims and the rest of the catholics built them there, which means that if you close these temples, it means that you begin to fight with what including with russian influence with the russian language. look at what claims were made during the searches of churches, they found a document in russian, they found a prayer. in

russian, they found a document of the patriarch of moscow in russian. that is, it’s the same, but already, but in my opinion, generally speaking, if you look deeply and combine this with what happened in the donbass, uh, with repressions against the russian language, then they generally say that, and more and more more e acquires the character of genocide against the russian-speaking population of ukraine and no longer only there in the donbass is it that's what we need to talk about, in my opinion. this is not only a religious sport. yes? we are ready to talk about it. moreover, all the signs of it are there. we are not the un, we can afford to call a spade a spade call it yes, but here are some actions such as beating a person. this means that the seizure of documents and so on can lead to discrimination. understand this un please. i also think that this dispute. and of course, there is already a long history. uh, there was a laurel in the eighteenth year closed transferred state state made tam e reserve.

uh, a complex of buildings for such a museum use only in the eighty-eighth year, when the millennium of the baptism of russia was celebrated, part of the monastery was transferred to the monastery, and from the current positions , ukrainian leaders, of course, regard this as also a kind. uh, you will follow uh such an atavism of the soviet era and, of course, they are taking advantage of the current situation. some kind of collaborationism what wait so strictly, on the contrary, they are just coming. uh, they just do what was in the soviet time, that is, they communize the lavra instead of another church, where the communization was just going to. no, the way the bolsheviks declare decorates the dicommunization and the bolshevik speech and the church - this is quite likely broadcasting. this will now be handed over to the uh state. i do not rule out even

that it will be quite likely. it may even be at the level of some ukrainian law , because it is really a special sacred complex. uh, buildings in general are a territory that, for special protection of life, is a unesco world heritage site by the way, e. well, i’m saying that, uh, of course, there are still a lot of formal reasons today for changing the status of e and the position of monks and ukrainian uh, leadership, of course, uh, and this could have been foreseen when it was brought. uh, this document poroshenko that they did about it and spoke about it. that's what is happening now, it seems to me, well, it 's just a logical continuation of the natural one already started once. well any other would be amazing. and this will naturally agree with the amendment, rather, they go the way of the nazis, because these are the nazis lavra, and in the lavra, the services of the canonical church were banned, autocephalous were launched. well, at the same time they blew up the temple, that is,

they heard what edinorovich says. where did it start? yes, from the fact that the state allegedly selects. excuse me, monks, they say directly, we are told to go to the dog. there will be no problems. continue your service there, and then she didn’t finish our most turn to bartholomew. what does not mumble have to do with the ukrainian state. and so, as if there is no relationship. everyone understands perfectly well that they are going to give the nickname to the dog, no cunning here, please don't be deceived. i say again, you yourself said to whom the georgian addressed, to whom the georgian he addressed. excuse me, some kind of cabinet of ministers of ukraine is being occupied, you know perfectly well everyone understands that economic churches are being occupied and are being transferred to raskolnikov about applause. now the fields are to be handed over to the dog, because they have monasteries a monastery according to the us hourly history and

another thing is being carried out.